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Nitshe Razvedka
1263
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Posted - 2016.08.19 16:12:24 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Wow, the salt content from "Nitshe" just overwheming.
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You are starting to sound like Dom. Where did the AG touch you codie?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8001
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Posted - 2016.08.19 16:41:50 -
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Remember, gankers always project. Always.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Nitshe Razvedka
1263
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Posted - 2016.08.19 16:55:19 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Remember, gankers always project. Always.
I was going to call Morgan out for crossdressing, but I really like Eddie Izzard.
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Solecist Project
32224
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:10:20 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Remember, gankers always project. Always. *snickers* xD
That's funny. ^_^
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
575
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:17:52 -
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Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content
But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go
P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
Gù+Nitshe's favorite
Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain
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Paranoid Loyd
9441
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:29:22 -
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I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3022
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:43:58 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage.
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Nitshe Razvedka
1263
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:45:09 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage.
Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8005
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:18:26 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter
You love his banter and would be lost without it.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Paranoid Loyd
9443
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:20:53 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
575
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:21:01 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter You love his banter and would be lost without it. I feed on intellectual conversation that I can sanely contribute to. Those don't ever involve white knights of your nature
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
Gù+Nitshe's favorite
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
7
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:33:17 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people?
Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately.
You're a good example. |
Paranoid Loyd
9443
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:37:18 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people? Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. You're a good example. That's a cute relpy, however I'm not the one who said it is a truism. It's obviously not if you posted your OP right?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
8
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:38:31 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people? Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. You're a good example. That's a cute relpy, however I'm not the one who said it is a truism. It's obviously not if you posted your OP right?
I was paying you a compliment, but as you like... |
Paranoid Loyd
9443
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:39:24 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:I was paying you a compliment, but as you like...
I'm used to people just copying and pasting things they don't understand, I made an assumption I shouldn't have. I'm not familiar with what you mentioned. Forgive me, maybe you can elaborate.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
8
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:44:24 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:I was paying you a compliment, but as you like... Forgive me, maybe you can elaborate.
The Dunning-Krueger effect is where an individual finds a task or an ability easy and therefore assumes that in the same way others should also find this the case. However, they don't which can seem odd to the first individual. In this respect, there are likely things that you (and others) find simple or straight forward that others don't. And vice versa, of course.
It doesn't mean one (or the other) is more or less competent, but simply that their brain hardwiring is such that some things come naturally and some require more effort to accomplish. And all are different in their varying levels of this efficiency.
I was commenting that its good (for you) that you find these things easy / straight forward. That's to your benefit. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
9
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:49:40 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:I was paying you a compliment, but as you like... I'm used to people just copying and pasting things they don't understand, I made an assumption I shouldn't have. I'm not familiar with what you mentioned. Forgive me, maybe you can elaborate.
Perfectly alright. :-) The DK effect is something I have studied in depth.
I have a similar thing when it comes to natural musical talent - I have the ability to play any instrument at will, so when others struggle it's hard to work out why. And yet I suck at Art where others find drawing and painting easy. :-) |
Nitshe Razvedka
1264
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Posted - 2016.08.19 19:00:54 -
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Pearls. (an I ration the big smiles)
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Solecist Project
32231
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Posted - 2016.08.19 20:06:48 -
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Quote:Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately.
Wooooooow, fancy!
*picks nose* *snips crap around the room*
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
9
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Posted - 2016.08.19 20:55:59 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Quote:Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. Wooooooow, fancy! *picks nose* *snips crap around the room*It's weird because I'm kind of understanding this differently ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DunningGÇôKruger_effectQuote:The DunningGÇôKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. I'll translate. Low ability indIviduals (puke) suffer from IAMAWESOME, because they're literally too dumb to know they're dumb. They're so dumb, they're incapable of reflecting on it and it would take serious effort, having him follow a logical train of thought all the way through to the part(s) he doesn't consider he's missing. Logic is funny, because logic is always logical. Logic has no consideration for good or bad, it simply always works with the information at hand. As long as every information gathered fits to the rest logically, no matter how stupid the conclusion might be, it's still logical. The DKEffect is, in simple terms, lack of awareness of the missing parts. Or even simpler: Ignorance about one's own ignorance. A serious mental issue in my world, but vOv. In any case, what you describe as DK is not DK at all. You *were* insulting him.
No... just no. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8006
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Posted - 2016.08.19 21:49:51 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter You love his banter and would be lost without it. I feed on intellectual conversation that I can sanely contribute to. Those don't ever involve white knights of your nature
Where it not for white knights running things you would not be the person you are today.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
400
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Posted - 2016.08.19 22:03:54 -
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I am a CODE supporter since they bring excitement and a sense of paranoia to these poor industrialist who would otherwise be asleep at their desk while their Mackinaws lazily pewpew asteroids. There is nothing wrong with that, sir.
But I can assure you, AG has done nothing to me since they are still considered unorganized in my book. The game mechanics have always leaned towards the ganker but has been slowly pushed towards the carebears. Have I ganked freighters? Oh yes I have.
One day while in Gallente FW, loyalnon asked my corp if we wanted to go gank freighters. Never done it before, I wanted to see what it was like so I went with another pilot. It was an awesome experience and loyalnon knew what he was doing as he directed us from target to target. While waiting out the timer, some people started trashtalking in local on how they were repping one of the freighters that was being bumped. Loyalnon was not wanting to actually target that particular freighter but decided to go after it anyways.
The bumper told us that three scythes were repping it as they were trying to counter bump his Machariel away. We land on grid and completely facemelted the freighter, even with 9 reppers on it. So yes, I was there when AG was born because I believe that day was the day they decided to form up and actually fight the gankers back. Yes, they have had some success against freighter gankers but completely fail when it comes to the 'little guys' like the OP who are out there mining afk. They don't even need one of the CODE permits, all they need is awareness and they will be fine.
But if they want to afk mine in peace, highsec is not the place to do it.
This would cure me of the fear...
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Solecist Project
32241
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Posted - 2016.08.19 22:31:58 -
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"Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately."
This part is fine. They're clueless about being clueless. (and will argue against it when pointed out) They lack awareness about the fact that they could lack awareness about some facts. Oh god i love these wordgames! :D
According to your own post, Mr. Loyd here is a great example of being inept (like: incapable) of recognizing his own ineptitude due to his low ability.
"The DunningGÇôKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately."
Sc0rpyon wrote:No... just no. Fine with me! Go and change the article on wikipedia and get away with it.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
11
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Posted - 2016.08.19 22:47:51 -
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Solecist Project wrote:"Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately." This part is fine. They're clueless about being clueless. (and will argue against it when pointed out) They lack awareness about the fact that they could lack awareness about some facts. Oh god i love these wordgames! :D According to your own post, Mr. Loyd here is a great example of being inept (like: incapable) of recognizing his own ineptitude due to his low ability. "The DunningGÇôKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately." Sc0rpyon wrote:No... just no. Fine with me! Go and change the article on wikipedia and get away with it.
You're citing... Wikipedia... as a source...? Hang on - let me find that Onion article I read the other day. It's probably right up your street. |
Elyham
Gordon Gekko Trading Academy Peaceful Industrialists
46
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Posted - 2016.08.19 23:20:43 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief. Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it. Maybe you should learn your stuff..
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You undocked which was your consent to engage and be engaged.
Also there is no griefing in this game, cmon. I run a highly successful Mining Buddy Program so this is clearly in my area of expertise.
May your roids contain great wealth and treasure...
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
11
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Posted - 2016.08.19 23:30:12 -
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Elyham wrote: How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar....
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3025
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Posted - 2016.08.19 23:34:40 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Elyham wrote: How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar.... And now we have officially blurred the line between game and real life. I give it a page or 2 until lock. Anybody wanna start a betting pool?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Nitshe Razvedka
1270
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Posted - 2016.08.20 04:06:51 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:I am a CODE supporter since they bring excitement and a sense of paranoia to these poor industrialist who would otherwise be asleep at their desk while their Mackinaws lazily pewpew asteroids. There is nothing wrong with that, sir. But I can assure you, AG has done nothing to me since they are still considered unorganized in my book. The game mechanics have always leaned towards the ganker but has been slowly pushed towards the carebears. Have I ganked freighters? Oh yes I have. One day while in Gallente FW, loyalnon asked my corp if we wanted to go gank freighters. Never done it before, I wanted to see what it was like so I went with another pilot. It was an awesome experience and loyalnon knew what he was doing as he directed us from target to target. While waiting out the timer, some people started trashtalking in local on how they were repping one of the freighters that was being bumped. Loyalnon was not wanting to actually target that particular freighter but decided to go after it anyways. The bumper told us that three scythes were repping it as they were trying to counter bump his Machariel away. We land on grid and completely facemelted the freighter, even with 9 reppers on it. So yes, I was there when AG was born because I believe that day was the day they decided to form up and actually fight the gankers back. Yes, they have had some success against freighter gankers but completely fail when it comes to the 'little guys' like the OP who are out there mining afk. They don't even need one of the CODE permits, all they need is awareness and they will be fine. But if they want to afk mine in peace, highsec is not the place to do it. P.S. In regards to that KM, it was a battle Venture fleet we threw together. You could have asked first before posting a KM that doesn't support your point.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1270
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Posted - 2016.08.20 04:44:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Quote:Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. Wooooooow, fancy! *picks nose* *snips crap around the room*It's weird because I'm kind of understanding this differently ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DunningGÇôKruger_effectQuote:The DunningGÇôKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. I'll translate. Low ability indIviduals (puke) suffer from IAMAWESOME, because they're literally too dumb to know they're dumb. They're so dumb, they're incapable of reflecting on it and it would take serious effort, having him follow a logical train of thought all the way through to the part(s) he doesn't consider he's missing. Logic is funny, because logic is always logical. Logic has no consideration for good or bad, it simply always works with the information at hand. As long as every information gathered fits to the rest logically, no matter how stupid the conclusion might be, it's still logical. The DKEffect is, in simple terms, lack of awareness of the missing parts. Or even simpler: Ignorance about one's own ignorance. A serious mental issue in my world, but vOv. In any case, what you describe as DK is not DK at all. You *were* insulting him.
The only person really insulting Paranoid is you Sol, because you just don't get it. There are levels.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
401
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Posted - 2016.08.20 05:32:03 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:I am a CODE supporter since they bring excitement and a sense of paranoia to these poor industrialist who would otherwise be asleep at their desk while their Mackinaws lazily pewpew asteroids. There is nothing wrong with that, sir. But I can assure you, AG has done nothing to me since they are still considered unorganized in my book. The game mechanics have always leaned towards the ganker but has been slowly pushed towards the carebears. Have I ganked freighters? Oh yes I have. One day while in Gallente FW, loyalnon asked my corp if we wanted to go gank freighters. Never done it before, I wanted to see what it was like so I went with another pilot. It was an awesome experience and loyalnon knew what he was doing as he directed us from target to target. While waiting out the timer, some people started trashtalking in local on how they were repping one of the freighters that was being bumped. Loyalnon was not wanting to actually target that particular freighter but decided to go after it anyways. The bumper told us that three scythes were repping it as they were trying to counter bump his Machariel away. We land on grid and completely facemelted the freighter, even with 9 reppers on it. So yes, I was there when AG was born because I believe that day was the day they decided to form up and actually fight the gankers back. Yes, they have had some success against freighter gankers but completely fail when it comes to the 'little guys' like the OP who are out there mining afk. They don't even need one of the CODE permits, all they need is awareness and they will be fine. But if they want to afk mine in peace, highsec is not the place to do it. P.S. In regards to that KM, it was a battle Venture fleet we threw together. You could have asked first before posting a KM that doesn't support your point. You are starting to sound like Pedro. (TLDNR), Too long Did Not Read. Ironic how I wasted long hand on its acronym in brackets Only joking, I did read it. By your standard, you sound extremely salty. And this response is how you got your status as a forum troll. 2/10.
Try harder, Nitshe. I know you can do it. I believe in you.
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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