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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:25:39 -
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Dibz wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dibz wrote:Ironically enough, the forum rules prevent me from saying why the forums are worse than reddit. Neat little clause that, at least from the ISD's point of view It's funny how this doesn't match. You say the forums are worse than reddit ... ... and you also say CAS is full of immature males who behave "cliquey". And that is pretty much a perfect description of /r/eve. What's funny is how you took two unrelated statements, put them together, and presented them as a contradiction in terms even though they're not. How are they not?
You complained about a certain male mindset you dislike ... ... which is exactly the mindset easily found on reddit and /r/eve specifically.
Can you actually explain that?
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Solecist Project
32342
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:28:41 -
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sero Hita wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote: There is nothing wrong with entertaining - but it isn't the tone CCP has chosen for their own forums...That doesn't make the EVE forums "bad" - it just makes them *less entertaining* and *more serious*. And there *is* a difference.
Yes I know, what makes these forums bad as I already posted is that in order to get to the interesting bits on these forums you often have to read your way through 80% bile and Repetitions of 200 page threadnaughts. There is no way to highlight the constructive posts here. They are buried in all the other stuff Things go bad, because people have started caring about fun only.
Everyone understands that life is **** and work sucks it dry ... ... but when tens of thousands of people only care about their fun ... ... then society as a whole begins to degrade.
Degradation into shallowness ... ... and the constant hunt for "fun" things that fight the boredom caused by this very behaviour in the first place.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:30:20 -
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Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
Reddit is for discussing players and their actions, forums are for discussing the actual game and CCP's actions. Its like the fiction and non fiction at the library. You dont browse the dime novels( Reddit) if you are looking to learn about "M Theory"( Forums)
thanks for taking the time to do that elaborate answer. I partially agree with what you say, as it is too black /white and a bit exaggerated. For example the best post about the new weapon accuracy score I found R/EVE. Also the discussions of CCP Quantums reports are just as good on R/EVE as on here. Again my main problem with these forums is the lack of ability to filter out the pure emotion whine posts without any content in them (Perhaps I don't want to block everyone, but just get to the good posts on topic). And these posts are not rare on the forums unfortunately.
"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
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Dibz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:31:36 -
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Solecist Project wrote:How are they not?
You complained about a certain male mindset you dislike ... ... which is exactly the mindset easily found on reddit and /r/eve specifically.
Can you actually explain that?
I don't see the kind of thing I'm talking about in /r/eve. Don't get me wrong, /r/eve is full of shitposts, probably even more than this forum. It's just CAS chat is kind of... unique. |
Solecist Project
32342
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:34:58 -
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Dibz wrote:Solecist Project wrote:How are they not?
You complained about a certain male mindset you dislike ... ... which is exactly the mindset easily found on reddit and /r/eve specifically.
Can you actually explain that? I don't see the kind of thing I'm talking about in /r/eve. Don't get me wrong, /r/eve is full of shitposts, probably even more than this forum. It's just CAS chat is kind of... unique. That's interesting and actually surprising.
Ah well.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
2124
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:37:57 -
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sero Hita wrote:[.... But when it is the same thread for the 229th time about afk cloaking, mining or whatever without bringing anything new, I have no problem that it is being downvoted to hell. But apparently you do have a problem with the fact that similar threads on this forum get locked for redundancy by ISD.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
457
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:40:04 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:It's like poop telling vomit it stinks! At least the poop exits where waste is supposed to exit!
I still don't really have a comeback for this one!
Touch+¬ Redditor
@lunettelulu7
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
304
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:47:40 -
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Can I trade this job for what's behind door number 1?
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Evemails.
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sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2016.08.23 15:09:50 -
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Esrevid Nekkeg wrote:sero Hita wrote:[.... But when it is the same thread for the 229th time about afk cloaking, mining or whatever without bringing anything new, I have no problem that it is being downvoted to hell. But apparently you do have a problem with the fact that similar threads on this forum get locked for redundancy by ISD. Where did I say that? As i am fine with redundant threads being locked, your statement surprises me. Went through my last 6 posts and found nowhere where I said that.... I am not a native speaker, so perhaps a clumsy formulation from my side?
Edit: if it is the part where I say there are fewer restrictions on R/EVE, that was about not being able to post KM here outside of C&M and then you really read to much into that sentence.
"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
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Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite CODE.
63
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Posted - 2016.08.23 15:13:05 -
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...and another thread locked with no reason given...I see why so many have made the migration to R....
*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8621
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Posted - 2016.08.23 15:15:18 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:Can I trade this job for what's behind door number 1?
CCP is actually paying you guys now?
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
304
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Posted - 2016.08.23 15:21:05 -
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Doc Fury wrote:ISD Max Trix wrote:Can I trade this job for what's behind door number 1? CCP is actually paying you guys now?
I get dank memes.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Evemails.
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Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon The Republic.
588
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Posted - 2016.08.23 21:10:22 -
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Funny that r/eve users are complaining about over moderation and lack of down voting, while I think that the forums are well moderated and can't stand the down voting cliques on r/eve.
Doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in the world, I still read it.
No issues with the ISD here, they're right, it's a thankless job, one I have had to do before.
So, while r/eve folks may hate you ISD guys, I say thank you for keeping the place pretty clean and a safe place for everyone to have an opinion.
r/eve is just a lot of gutter sniper wars that if there was sanity there, that's the stuff that would get down voted. Instead, it's just the lords of chaos having their fun, which can be fun to watch, I just feel like I need a shower after reading it.
I also wish the format was better and more readable. Even the reddit readers I have played with haven't been able to fix its readability.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
7207
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Posted - 2016.08.24 05:50:08 -
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Caco De'mon wrote:...and another thread locked with no reason given...I see why so many have made the migration to R....
Any thread locked by ISD has a good reason behind it, and we will post the rule broken in the locking post. We strive to be as transparent as possible so you know exactly what's up.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Kaybella Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2016.08.24 06:01:22 -
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It would be nice if those threads locked for redundancy had a link to an original thread in them. That would make sure the original thread exists and is unlocked. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
7207
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Posted - 2016.08.24 06:17:25 -
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Kaybella Hakaari wrote:It would be nice if those threads locked for redundancy had a link to an original thread in them. That would make sure the original thread exists and is unlocked.
I'll keep that in mind for future threads, thanks.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon The Republic.
593
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Posted - 2016.08.24 14:59:19 -
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Kaybella Hakaari wrote:It would be nice if those threads locked for redundancy had a link to an original thread in them. That would make sure the original thread exists and is unlocked.
Some of the redundant threads are locked and redundant because they got locked in the first place and the poster didn't take the hint the first time.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17689
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:06:30 -
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I don't know what people are saying about us not having a down vote option, we do.
You login, find the gobby fecker and shoot him in the goddamn mouth. Simple.
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:07:07 -
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Player forums seem to reflect the state of the game pretty accurately, whether on Reddit or over here. Dead sub-forums and topics avoided are a very good indication of how players regard aspects of the game. It's not always an indication that those aspects are sufficiently well-regarded not to require comment or discussion.
I come here because - as someone mentioned, above - there is discussion of Highsec, my home. There's not too much talk about Highsec on Reddit. But I do glance over at Reddit, every day. Considering that the bulk of the material doesn't involve me, it says something about the attraction of r/eve. There are some good posters; by which I mean people who have good ideas and can write about them effectively.
I'll probably be unpopular for saying this, but to hell with it. Here on EVE-O I get really frustrated by people who don't do their prep. They don't think before or while they write; they don't consider that someone may read their stuff and that , therefore, it should be presented reasonably. This isn't about poor spelling or grammar - those are merely minor annoyances for me. It's about content and presentation.
There have been many threads where I've thought, 'I want to say something about that'. But I held off, either because one of the forum regulars covered the point or because, on reflection, what I had to say wasn't actually that good/funny/original.
It has become so bad that, good point or not, I simply won't read walls of paragraph-less text. If you can't bother, why should I?
So I think Reddit is ok, but these forums are what I regard as 'home'. I just wish there was more self-moderation...
'Local' is highly suited to carry 'Chat'. These boards seem frequently to be home to a curious hybrid communication system, falling somewhere between Chat and Discussion. It's not very successful much of the time. But still, here I am.... |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8627
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:12:09 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:Doc Fury wrote:ISD Max Trix wrote:Can I trade this job for what's behind door number 1? CCP is actually paying you guys now? I get dank memes.
Make sure to put that on your CV.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Aen Clarke
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.08.24 17:57:57 -
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This is probably the best gamingforum out there. Lol. (?) |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3332
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Posted - 2016.08.24 18:05:45 -
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I think you are way off, OP. The forums here technically are pretty great. There were a couple of things that were not brought over from the old forums that I miss:
- We used to be able to have a small graphic gamer tag as our signature. It was fun to see the creativity of other players and afforded pods to inject a little of their personal style into their posts. It made it easier to get a vibe of the player. It's a damn shame that was removed and I think it was a mistake.
- Post formatting: we used to have colors. The posts, especially mega-posts, just looked a lot more engaging. Hell, you see ISD posting images left and right just in this thread. It's too bad us GP players can't do that anymore, and this thread is a great demo of why. ISD is doing it because its fun(ny). It is. So how about the rest of us?
Other than that, find me a better gaming forum. There's a lot going on in EvE, and so there's a lot that needs to be happening technically in these forums. I'm one of the first to bitc* about CCP's many screw ups. These forums are not one of them. CCP did a great job here. If you have a problem with these forums I would bet it has more to do with the player base than the forums we are on now.
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
97
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Posted - 2016.08.25 02:53:22 -
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I just finished reading this entire thread. Why, I wonder?
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.25 08:55:27 -
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TackyTachy1 wrote:I just finished reading this entire thread. Why, I wonder? You did well. Nicely done!
*pats you on the back* :)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon The Republic.
599
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Posted - 2016.08.25 14:52:23 -
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Sasha Nemtsov mentioned that some folks here don't do their homework before they post. That's entirely true. Those that don't get schooled/trolled pretty fast and it ends up educating the poster or at least making the thread fun for everyone. I think that's kind of what Ralph KG was getting at but maybe I didn't do enough homework on that first.
r/eve is RIFE with posters that are clueless about what they are saying. There they rely on the downvote system to nerf the post into obscurity. Here, such threads also end up on the back pages by just the passage of time. If they are bad enough they get locked and that's that.
So both forum types have their moderation ways, one is community moderated with the only rule being popular vote, the other is... moderated by volunteers from the community that have to follow rules set by the host.
That, in a nutshell, explains the good and bad of each system. Post where you like, you suffer the patience of the community in either case after you hit that POST button. In that sense, both systems are identical.
8 Golden Rules of EVE GÇó EVE is entirely PvP
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17728
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Posted - 2016.08.25 15:36:16 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Sasha Nemtsov mentioned that some folks here don't do their homework before they post. That's entirely true. Those that don't get schooled/trolled pretty fast and it ends up educating the poster or at least making the thread fun for everyone. I think that's kind of what Ralph KG was getting at but maybe I didn't do enough homework on that first.
r/eve is RIFE with posters that are clueless about what they are saying. There they rely on the downvote system to nerf the post into obscurity. Here, such threads also end up on the back pages by just the passage of time. If they are bad enough they get locked and that's that.
So both forum types have their moderation ways, one is community moderated with the only rule being popular vote, the other is... moderated by volunteers from the community that have to follow rules set by the host.
That, in a nutshell, explains the good and bad of each system. Post where you like, you suffer the patience of the community in either case after you hit that POST button. In that sense, both systems are identical. Yeah that's one thing I like about the forum, your ignorance and /or misinformed notions get confronted immediately and usually at length, To varying degrees of civility depending upon your attitude.
Hell I ended up in devil's because I posted some hilariously shitfit legion losses, got roundly thrashed for them and took it on the chin with a good attitude.
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Solecist Project
32492
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Posted - 2016.08.25 19:10:56 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:This isn't about poor spelling or grammar - those are merely minor annoyances for me.
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a curious hybrid communication system, falling somewhere between Chat and Discussion. It's not very successful much of the time. But still, here I am....
Yo ain' talkin' **** 'bout ma gramma do ya?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
3549
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Posted - 2016.08.26 06:03:56 -
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OK, I will use my mad powers and institute a shutdown of the forums and demand something better.
May take a bit of time but . . . I know you are all patient.
m
Mike Azariah Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼n++ ¯|(pâä)/¯
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Serene Repose
2781
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Posted - 2016.08.26 06:22:42 -
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Only thing that makes these forums horrible are REDDIT people posting here. You REDDITs stay home, you'll never know the difference, but we certainly will. TYVM in advance.
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2430
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Posted - 2016.08.26 06:36:53 -
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Not sure if they cleaned it up but forums here were full of hateful spiteful people who were never reined in when breaking rules or making disgusting personal attacks on others. At least on Reddit there is some semblance of control. They also dont arbitrarily lock posts if they dont personally agree with the thread.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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