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TigerXtrm
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:49:13 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:So you're telling me I can fly a catalyst... vOv Okay then.
Yeah, but you can't use T2 or faction guns Good luck with that.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:24:38 -
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So many teaaaaaarsss!
Seriously people stop your doomsday scenarios please. This will be the biggest boost to EVE's player base in the last 13 years.
Solution to suicide ganking: Either allow only a single Alpha account per IP address or restrict their security to yellow. Problem solved.
Would you people please read before you cry wolf? They said that a lot of it is still up for tweaking and the skill list can change. Instead of b*tching, help to improve the idea.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:26:05 -
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Tony Rocca wrote:Hey guys, Couple big questions: Major alliances control access to their (external) services via the subscription status of accounts, as reflected on the XML or CREST APIs.
- How will these APIs reflect the Alpha/Omega state of accounts?
- When I allow my subscription to lapse, what happens to assets or skills I trained while I was an Omega account that Alpha accounts cannot use? e.g. I subbed for a month, trained up Cyno 5, then stopped paying - regressing to Alpha. Can I still light a cyno, since that skill is technically trained?
Dude, read the blog. Any skills that go beyond the Alpha list will be blocked and any modules that require those skills will go offline. So no, you can't light a cyno on a free account (thank god).
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.31 17:53:01 -
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Hunter Anubis wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Greetings capsuleers! Today, we are happy to announce a new change thatGÇÖs coming to EVE Online in November that will fundamentally change New Eden, and how our pilots access it via the EVE client. In short, cloning scientists in New Eden have developed a new method of cloning that revolves around two new clone states, Alpha and Omega. Omega clones will be familiar to all our current players, and will operate just like a subscribed character does today. Alpha clones will be accessible for free, without subscription, and will be capable of training an assigned set of skills themed to a characterGÇÖs race. A Dev Blog has been published by Team Size Matters today with more details on this feature, and a questions and answers section where we look to clear up some initial concerns and questions regarding this change. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=452051 how about I get a little bit of credit? I sugested this same thing 11 months ago...
I've been suggesting this in random posts for like 2 or 3 years.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.31 17:54:01 -
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Lunarstorm95 wrote:I feel im the only one that sees how this could turn into micro transactions SUPER quick....
You mean like... buying ISK? Oh wait... Uhm... buying SP? No... hang on. Buying too expensive SKINs for your shi... oh.
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TigerXtrm
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Posted - 2016.08.31 18:06:12 -
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Lunarstorm95 wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Lunarstorm95 wrote:I feel im the only one that sees how this could turn into micro transactions SUPER quick.... You mean like... buying ISK? Oh wait... Uhm... buying SP? No... hang on. Buying too expensive SKINs for your shi... oh. Im more talking about buying additional access for ur alpha toon. Like allowing to train t2 mods or allowe d to train other races ect ect Kinda like swtor did. Allow you to slowly purchase yourself to a full access clone without actually subbing
I doubt that will ever happen in that way, as that would open up all the abuse scenarios they're trying to avoid right now. Buy access to Cyno skill, never pay again, free cyno alt forever. Nope.
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TigerXtrm
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Posted - 2016.08.31 18:20:07 -
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Asgard 2 wrote:CCP Falcon,
I have friends who have stopped playing ages ago, and who have let their accounts run out while sitting inside their Super Capitals. What happens if they log back in on an Alpha Account inside a Super Cap?
Read. The. F*cking. Blog.
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TigerXtrm
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Posted - 2016.09.01 09:21:59 -
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It's truly amazing to me how many people think they understand how business works, but then go to spew so much BS it's not even funny anymore. So let's just debunk all this BS right here and now.
1. "CCP must be in financial trouble!" No they're not, they're in one of the most healthy financial states they've been in in years, which is partly what enables them to do this in the first place.
2. "EVE is dying!" EVE has been dying since 1999. GTFO.
3. "People are going to use hundreds of alts to ruin the game forever!" If you really honestly think that CCP will allow a single person to log in hundreds of free accounts at once you are completely insane. I'd be willing to bet all my EVE assets that Alpha accounts will be IP/hardware restricted to a single session. Even Omega accounts probably aren't allowed to run a free Alpha account next to their main.
4. "Suicide ganking will be at an all time high!" No it won't, because Alpha accounts will have their security settings locked to green and yellow. The Dev Blog might say that it's a 'possibility' but believe when I say this is going to happen. The CSM is pushing for it and it's the number one most mentioned feedback in this thread. Alpha accounts will NOT be able to suicide gank in High Sec.
5. "Free to play is bad and I won't be part of it. I'm unsubbing!" K, bye. You won't be missed and no-one cares.
6. "They could have just lowered the sub cost." And this is the largest issue I have. No. That's not how any of this works. That is not why this is being done. The gaming market has changed since 2003 when subscription models were entirely normal. Since then an entirely new generation of teenagers has grown up who simply do not accept the notion of paying for a game monthly. EVE Online is one of the very last games to have this model and it cannot be sustained with the current market trends.
The major number 1 reason why people quit EVE after their trial is because they can't or won't pay 15 dollars a month to play a video game. Check any user submitted reviews on Steam and other places. They simply don't understand the concept because they grew up in a time where subscription based games had pretty much died out. Most of these people actually seem to be offended by the mere notion of having to pay monthly. They perceive it as a money grab, greed, that sort of stuff. And what you need to understand is that it doesn't matter if they are right or wrong. They are the consumer base CCP needs to survive, whether they like it or not. So they need to appeal to a consumer base that does not want to pay monthly. And the very first step in doing that is to make the game free to play. No amount of lowering of sub costs would have fixed that because it's the sheer principle that people are against.
Subsequently, don't think that this free to play mode is the only change that's coming. This is a first appeal to a new modern market, but subscription fees will be completely removed within the next 5 years to be replaced with more microtransactions. You can argue this is a bad thing or a good thing or whatever, but the fact of the matter is that within 5 years CCP will receive more income from PLEX and Aurum sales than they get from subscriptions. The market is changing, consumer preferences are shifting. And if CCP doesn't change with them, they will get left behind and EVE will, in fact, die.
Now, I agree that microtransactions can be a horrible addition to a game in a lot of cases. But with EVE it hasn't gotten in my way much YET. Which is a testament to CCP's careful introductions of these things. You can buy ISK and SP, but none of it is ever generated out of thin air and that's the important part. As long as you can't buy items, ISK or SP directly for cash, microtransactions won't harm the EVE ecosystem.
In the end the age old adage applies as much in the real world as it does in EVE Online. Adapt or die. Accept change or you will be left behind, no matter how much you scream. And personally I would rather contribute to the discussion with valuable feedback instead of throwing a tantrum over something that is going to happen regardless of how loudly you protest.
So to everyone throwing a fit, threatening to unsub, etc; Shut up or provide some constructive and polite feedback to improve the Free to Play feature. No-one cares about your threats and your insults. Stop being a baby.
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TigerXtrm
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Posted - 2016.09.01 14:10:27 -
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Judaa K'Marr wrote:Malcanis wrote:CCP aren't calling this "f2p". Marketing this change to your friends as an "unlimited free trial" might help, because that's what it is.
Incidentally, for those who are quitting because eve is getting unlimited free trial access, what's the longest trial account term you feel is ethical? Obviously it's at least 52 days, since we've had 51 day trials before. What's the maximum you'd accept?
Except it's being marketed everywhere as free to play. Evidently CCP called it free-to-play on the press release, at least. So essentially it's a bait and switch scheme.....
Why? The term free to play doesn't refer to anything other than "you don't have to pay anything before you start playing". It doesn't mean "the entire game is free have fun".
Team Fortress 2 is free to play and they have content that is only accessible trough paying for it. And many other games alongside it.
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