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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.02 18:58:47 -
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No amount of words are able to describe pain in a way which would allow someone to feel it ... ... which is what pain simply is all about. It's something that's experienced.Felt.
Pain is, like every sensory input, something that is being realised.
Any discussions about things which bring pain ... ... can only be properly held by those who know the pain.
Everyone else is literally an outsider.
Not knowing pain equals not understanding. It's a rule about experiences: "You can't tell someone how salt tastes like."
Pain teaches Respect.
The knowledge that "this person can and will hurt me" ... ... influences one's behaviour to a level that allows to avoid negative consequences.
When you take pain out of the equation ... ... an issue arises.
As I have pointed out in my last threads, is pain as a natural consequence of violence, a tool used by CONCORD to force a specific behaviour onto those it claims to govern. CONCORD, still literally crowd controlling people, has the monopoly on violence and no one shall go unpunished for engaging in non-consensual combat.
And make no mistake. The consent always comes from CONCORD, not capsuleers!
You steal from a yellow wreck and CONCORD declares you a half assed criminal who's free to shoot. You shoot some asshat in the face and they come to punish you for not asking first! You engage in a duel, which is a CONCORD-sanctioned activity.
As long as CONCORD has the monopoly on violence ... ... it is the ultimate authority.
They don't allow anyone else to gain authority without their supervision.
They deny us the abillity ... ... to teach respect!
Why's that an issue?
Not knowing pain breeds over-confidence and bad behaviour. When you don't suffer consequences then you don't realise pain. When you don't realise pain you don't understand respect.
Yes, i am aware that one can respect someone for more reasons than pain ... ... but that changes nothing about the rest of the post!
What matters is the impression and experience! Felt pain is the final teacher of respect!
First you warn someone. Then you smack him.
Lack of understanding pain ... ... which is the consequence of violence after behaving out of the line ... ... breeds ****** behaviour.
It breeds over confidence and, even though it feels silly to use it: respectlessness.
Someone who never has to deal with pain ... ... has a high chance of being an ******* or worse.
They demand to get what they want. They will be dishonest as long as they get what they want. They will manipulate for what they want. They will ignore all logic and reason and will not stop ... ... because they lack the experience of the pain of ever being wrong.*
All that, because they are safe. All that, because they can hide behind CONCORD's false peace. All that, because they never properly experienced pain ... ... and because they are being shielded from it from day one!
And all that is the future of new eden ... ... if you don't stop it.
*(i guess that needs a hint. As we can observe on the forums are there a lot of people who can not deal with being wrong. What this actually means, is that they are literally blind for the idea of being wrong and their brain will abuse logic heavily to keep the viewpoint of "being correct" up)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Ria Nieyli
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Posted - 2016.09.02 19:23:59 -
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Pain does not teach respect. Your level of naivety is astounding.
"slang" is shortened language for "shortened language"
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William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra RUST415
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Posted - 2016.09.02 19:55:29 -
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Pain promotes fear, fear is what makes weak people aggressive and it will only promote more fear in others who will be aggressive at the end bringing about everyone into aggresive and hostile environment known today as EVE forums.
In the words of mighty character: You have to unlearn what you have learned!
P.S.: I agree with the first poster. FPBP!
P.S.S.: That narcissism is either trolling or your ego tries to convicne that your narcissism is trolling, that 10k thread is just a simpe example. Trust me, I got OCS and increased awareness and my IQ is off the roof. Last phrase sounds irritating? That is because it is familiar. Also, if you find me on that list I will give you a tip of the year. But everyone already knows it anyway...
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:01:57 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Pain does not teach respect. Your level of naivety is astounding. The element's Fire , Force and Belt Buckle would like a word with you about that.
In people, no you are correct, it most certainly doesn't but in universal force's it very much does. This is why Concord don't bother me, I do not think of them as a group but as a force of nature.
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:06:01 -
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The OP isn't known for intelligence, or fashion sense.
Pain is your body's way of telling you something needs to be dealt with, now, if not sooner.
The OP's fanciful excursion into "pain is..." reminds me of something Oscar Wilde once said:
"The worst poetry is written with the best of intentions."
I hope I'm not giving away too much to the OP there.
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Valkorsia
IONSTAR Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:08:17 -
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I can smell the color ... red. |
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra RUST415
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:13:29 -
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Valkorsia wrote:I can smell the color ... red.
Medical check up asap for colon problems!
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:51:20 -
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William Legrand-Marx wrote:Pain promotes fear, fear is what makes weak people aggressive and it will only promote more fear in others who will be aggressive at the end bringing about everyone into aggresive and hostile environment known today as EVE forums. You could at least cite your sources instead of just blatantly plagiarizing...
Yoda wrote:[Pain leads to Fear.] Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate... leads to suffering.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:57:35 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Pain does not teach respect. Your level of naivety is astounding. Macchiaveli would agree with you - assuming one is referring to a ruler choosing a method to retain his power - however he also stated that it was significantly easier and more efficient to be *feared* than "respected"
Additionally, there are different types of "pain" - and although it can certainly be easily over-used or mis-used to cause fear instead of respect - Properly applied pain has been one of the primary tools for instilling respect in children (and others) for thousands of years. It is only very recently that parents have been discouraged from using pain as a tool to build respect...and many would argue that we've seen a corresponding reduction in respect in direct response to this change... but that is beyond the scope of the game.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.02 21:59:17 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:William Legrand-Marx wrote:Pain promotes fear, fear is what makes weak people aggressive and it will only promote more fear in others who will be aggressive at the end bringing about everyone into aggresive and hostile environment known today as EVE forums. You could at least cite your sources instead of just blatantly plagiarizing... Yoda wrote:[Pain leads to Fear.] Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate... leads to suffering. This is the guy who got his thread locked yesterday ... ... then opened a rage thread about the isd ... ... then commented in my thread, because he's still raging.
And now he's my pet, following me around. :D
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.02 22:04:25 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:This is why Concord don't bother me, I do not think of them as a group but as a force of nature. that's a great thought!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.09.02 22:43:43 -
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The ellipsis has a specific stylistic and grammatical function and does not take kindly when it is overused :(
That being said, +1 :)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2016.09.02 22:53:05 -
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Kinky
@lunettelulu7
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2016.09.02 23:43:45 -
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To quote a well known source, 'you're a piece of human garbage.'
You use these forums to blather on for attention, court the LAGLers and social posters, then explicitly look for actual female players in order to chain-mail/spam them ingame with convos designed to extort real life info. Then try to blackmail them when they tell you to **** off over what may amount to contrived RL mental health issues designed to extort a tit pic. I've already retorted to you with the classic 'SMD' which whooshed right over head, but if you continue this gibberish and sustained harassment of female players, I'll show you what pain is.
Your periodic re-emergence is starting to get seriously amusing though, and I wonder just how far back the trail of weirdness goes.
Proceed.
Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
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Posted - 2016.09.02 23:43:50 -
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Sorry but your post is a bit strange, I get what you are on about but the pain you talk about, this really isn't relevant because we have drugs that mitigate any pain by way of tags for standings, turn in tags get an increase in standings go out and cause more havoc.
So this "concord" pain is nothing for most. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
700
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Posted - 2016.09.02 23:54:51 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:I've already retorted to you with the classic 'SMD' So...Um... This seems like an odd choice for "the classic" response.... Given that the rest of your post seems to indicate that you are a female... And therefore do not in fact have a D to S.....
I don't even want you to elaborate - I don't really care. I just couldn't resist pointing that out
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2016.09.02 23:58:19 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:I've already retorted to you with the classic 'SMD' So...Um... This seems like an odd choice for "the classic" response.... Given that the rest of your post seems to indicate that you are a female... And therefore do not in fact have a D to S..... I don't even want you to elaborate - I don't really care. I just couldn't resist pointing that out I have at least 70 available. Might need to be nice to them first before pimping out, but they do squeal over some, so nbd.
Classic conundrum tho, just cos I claimed it as mine, doesn't mean it's attached if you get me There are loads of dicks here tho, plenty of them are mine Sort of
Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:17:10 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:To quote a well known source, 'you're a piece of human garbage.'
You use these forums to blather on for attention, court the LAGLers and social posters, then explicitly look for actual female players in order to chain-mail/spam them ingame with convos designed to extort real life info. Then try to blackmail them when they tell you to **** off over what may amount to contrived RL mental health issues designed to extort a tit pic. I've already retorted to you with the classic 'SMD' which whooshed right over head, but if you continue this gibberish and sustained harassment of female players, I'll show you what pain is.
Your periodic re-emergence is starting to get seriously amusing though, and I wonder just how far back the trail of weirdness goes.
Proceed. I do what? What the ****?
Okay, so you're the good person who knows this but doesn't report me, why???
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:17:32 -
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WTF is going on so many grills in their period
i'll call myself out from this *popcorn acquired, please ladies! procede!* |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:21:18 -
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vOv
there's always that one.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:22:25 -
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Solecist Project wrote: there's always that one.
which one? jk
no seriously ladies, just calm down, if you need desperately a D, there are enough for anybody! |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:31:35 -
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Solecist Project wrote: What the ****?
Okay, so you're the good person who knows this but doesn't report me, why???
I did report you. But given I curtailed it after being chain mailed for a few weeks, the reports were from other people who were sympathetic over being systematically abused by someone online claiming to have problems who deliberately seeks out women then turns viciously abusive. I can't report on their behalf, but I can damn well say it. That's a sustained campaign of harassment. And no offence, but I couldn't give a toss anymore about some random on the internet claiming to be suicidal to attach to a woman then turn abusive, just to leach their time. Yeh, we are sympathetic, sometimes. But no, we don't need to be verbally abused for deflecting it, or refusing to engage. And my time is precious. But yet again, the cross dressers have the arena here and we just dance to the tune of the overlords.
Just back off Sol. Not sitting by and watching you do this again. Not even joking, at this point, even Xenuria is less offensive because it's less insidious.
Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:47:45 -
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Claiming that I lied about my issues is bullshit. I just couldn't deal with anything anymore.
And now I am not talking to anyone privately ... ... except for a few mails here and there with random people.
Heh and yeah you're right, I probably was the worst piece of ****. I'm not denying that at all.
I don't get the part with the cross dressers at all. I don't actually recall mailing that much with you. Like, at all. Only ever for short, because you annoyed me greatly, actually.
I'm not sure what to think now. It's both hilariously entertaining and kind of embarrassing that you react like this.
I never ever spent as much time with anyone of you ... ... as that such a claim would have any substance.
Yes, I pissed many people off a damn lot and I did everything to get them out of the way again ... ... but if you call words "abuse" then maybe you should join the SJW crowd instead.
Just so you know: there's a major difference between back then and now ... ... that you can't possibly know about ... ... and things changed considerably.
You're not wrong saying that I'm an ******* ... ... but I'm not a stalker ... ... I don't seek out women ... (you'd have to mind-read to even know if that's happening) ... words don't "abuse" people ... ... and my life changed considerably.
Thank you very much! I won't report you. You don't deserve that for trying to help.
Still ... you haven't changed a bit.
You're still on a very high horse ... ... and you still are a ****** person ... ... and I still don't like you.
Feel free to have the last word, as you obviously will need it. This thread wasn't any good anyway.
vOv
Oh and yeah, the attention part. Clearly it wasn't your intention to gain attention and simply mailing me wasn't worth a try first! ^_^
Everyone who posts wants attention. It's unavoidable. I post this stuff, because it fits.
Well, the alpha clone **** actually threw me off completely ... ... and so i produced this one. Which was ... bad ... well ... yeah, it happens. vOv
Anything else? (and now i will resub, which i didn't intend to (as mentioned around a month ago), just to **** you off :)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:58:11 -
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This thread will be purged and cleaned and die, but I just put the warning out. I'm sorry if you have RL problems. I accept you might need a sympathetic ear, and seek out women because they may listen. But the scale you have engaged in this suggests some abnormality which I have grown tired of tolerating.
Continue with your facile topics, but I think the rest of the forumites need to be aware just how rediculous this is, and how pathetic. All the best with the RL stuff, but if I spot you engaging in this again I will make your life a misery on this forum. Not for sport, but this behaviour is preposterous. And I really don't see why you lot get away with it when the women get crucified.
Let's dance. See who wins ;)
Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:58:16 -
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Confirming that pain is a great teacher, but a teacher that degrades it's student rendering them incapable of learning more subtle lessons than those teachable by pain. Also: your pain, problems and dramas are neither real nor of interest to anyone. This is a liberating fact, not a cruel dismissal. That comment about pain leads to this, this leads to that, that leads to suffering? EVERYTHING leads to suffering! Change what you can, endure what you can't change, embrace and surrender to what you can't endure. Man, what a thread.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.03 01:00:18 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Confirming that pain is a great teacher, but a teacher that degrades it's student rendering them incapable of learning more subtle lessons than those teachable by pain. Also: your pain, problems and dramas are neither real nor of interest to anyone. This is a liberating fact, not a cruel dismissal. That comment about pain leads to this, this leads to that, that leads to suffering? EVERYTHING leads to suffering! Change what you can, endure what you can't change, embrace and surrender to what you can't endure. Man, what a thread. Great post!
Everything leads to suffering?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.03 01:02:11 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:This thread will be purged and cleaned and die, but I just put the warning out. I'm sorry if you have RL problems. I accept you might need a sympathetic ear, and seek out women because they may listen. But the scale you have engaged in this suggests some abnormality which I have grown tired of tolerating.
Continue with your facile topics, but I think the rest of the forumites need to be aware just how rediculous this is, and how pathetic. All the best with the RL stuff, but if I spot you engaging in this again I will make your life a misery on this forum. Not for sport, but this behaviour is preposterous. And I really don't see why you lot get away with it when the women get crucified.
Let's dance. See who wins ;) I actually don't have any problems anymore, but thank you for your concern.
Also thank you for trying to be a white knight, whoring for attention about how you are "the good person who helps others", how you somehow claim that my past behaviour is equal to my current behaviour and for bringing up things that i don't even have any relation to.
You're not a good person. You're just as much of an ******* as I am.
And yeah, sorry, I took the last word now. You have to report it yourself when you want your emotional breakdown to be "purged" ... ... but it'll still be on eve-search anyway. vOv
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.09.03 01:02:30 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Confirming that pain is a great teacher, but a teacher that degrades it's student rendering them incapable of learning more subtle lessons than those teachable by pain. Also: your pain, problems and dramas are neither real nor of interest to anyone. This is a liberating fact, not a cruel dismissal. That comment about pain leads to this, this leads to that, that leads to suffering? EVERYTHING leads to suffering! Change what you can, endure what you can't change, embrace and surrender to what you can't endure. Man, what a thread.
wtf man..... shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't go back to the topic nobody care about! this drama is more interesting shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.03 01:05:18 -
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Soel Reit wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Confirming that pain is a great teacher, but a teacher that degrades it's student rendering them incapable of learning more subtle lessons than those teachable by pain. Also: your pain, problems and dramas are neither real nor of interest to anyone. This is a liberating fact, not a cruel dismissal. That comment about pain leads to this, this leads to that, that leads to suffering? EVERYTHING leads to suffering! Change what you can, endure what you can't change, embrace and surrender to what you can't endure. Man, what a thread.
wtf man..... shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't go back to the topic nobody care about! this drama is more interesting shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ Time for bed! I'm curious what else this thread will breed. :)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
223
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Posted - 2016.09.03 01:06:21 -
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no dad pls!!!!
still 10 minutes |
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