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Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.19 18:51:00 -
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Question!
Will the new super fast T2 lottery be in this patch? I mean on the test server the T2 prints are being handed out like hourly by the R&D agents, will that arrive to the TQ as well?
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Harisdrop
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.19 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Githtakai "Forcefields do not deploy in an activated state. If the password for a forcefield has not been set, the forcefield is not active and therefore not visible."
Does this mean POSes that don't have passwords will have their shields go down at patch time? I'm going ship stealing!
I dont think it says the guns dont work if the forcefield is down.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.03.19 19:12:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Max Kentarii
Missing rigs for missiles and projectile Am I the only one wondering why there are less rigs for projectile weapons than hybrid and laser weapons?
Well, I for one don't see much point in releasing the missing projectile capacitor reduction rigs. :P * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.19 19:25:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Harisdrop
Originally by: Githtakai "Forcefields do not deploy in an activated state. If the password for a forcefield has not been set, the forcefield is not active and therefore not visible."
Does this mean POSes that don't have passwords will have their shields go down at patch time? I'm going ship stealing!
I dont think it says the guns dont work if the forcefield is down.
But it says the insurance is your friend. -----
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Ephemeral Waves
The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.03.19 19:57:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Holy Cheater *Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair? Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle.. It's insane fix.
Your name certainly fits your question. If you are stupid enough to use implants in combat then you deserve to lose them.
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Arushia
Nova Labs Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.03.19 20:13:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Max Kentarii
Missing rigs for missiles and projectile Am I the only one wondering why there are less rigs for projectile weapons than hybrid and laser weapons?
Because the extra rigs for Hybrids and Lasers are to reduce Cap use, something Missiles and Projectiles don't have.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.19 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Githtakai "Forcefields do not deploy in an activated state. If the password for a forcefield has not been set, the forcefield is not active and therefore not visible."
Does this mean POSes that don't have passwords will have their shields go down at patch time? I'm going ship stealing!
I don't know where that quote comes from, but if that change is going through it really reeks of CCP not making a genuine effort to resolve their own coding issues in the worst possible way. Turning a bug into a "feature" like this is not going to make EVE attractive to new players, nor is it going to give old players much faith in the company, especially considering that EVE is one of the only MMO options outside of WoW and a bunch of SOE-owned franchises that they were trying to escape from.
So you get this problem where some players were shooting someone hostile to them, and this person getting shot was within an ally's starbase forcefield, which should protect that player, and this occurs because that same player inside the shield wasn't a member of the corporation owning it. At the same time, this same person getting shot can't fire or target anything inside or outside the forcefield. But then, if you make a password for that starbase, suddenly those inside can't be targeted and attacked, as long as they have the password? The difference between a defective forcefield and a working forcefield is that a password has to exist? Since you're a bugtester, developer, or whatever in this hypothetical situation, and for whatever reason, you can't resolve this bug, so your only solution is just to make it harder on the player and try to brush it off to the side?
I'm sorry if I sound cynical in my interpretation, or ungrateful for what is otherwise a beautifully designed game, but that is really, really insulting to your playerbase if that's how CCP is going to fix huge issues like this in the future, as CCP has dealt with similar starbase and station-related problems before. Though I'm sure nobody really wants to actually put in the work to do it, its clear to me that the multitude of inconsistencies and bugs in starbases will need a complete overhaul before things get ever more out of hand. |
Xanenal
Wolfenrecon 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:17:00 -
[158]
Quote: Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.
I'm not sure how I feel about this...
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Szprinkoth Sponsz
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:28:00 -
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Carriers are meant to be frontlined. They are 500% better in frontline mode than POS hug mode. This is a Good Thing(tm).
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Naim Obeji
Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:52:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Xanenal
Quote: Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.
I'm not sure how I feel about this...
Definitely an interesting development.
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Archo X
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:57:00 -
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Quote: Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I got h4xXx0rzed!!!!11!!on3!!!111!1el3ventEEn!!!11 N3RF teh modz!!! |
Pesadel0
Vagabundos THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2007.03.19 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Szprinkoth Sponsz Carriers are meant to be frontlined. They are 500% better in frontline mode than POS hug mode. This is a Good Thing(tm).
What do you think people will do? They will stay 1 meter off the shield and get back the minute some trouble gets in system.
Stupid nerf but hey ;),i will wait to see my nigg boosted ,because by god my baby will stay as close to a POS as i can .
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cpt rhodes
Caldari Silver Eagles
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Posted - 2007.03.20 06:29:00 -
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Are they adding in any graphics mods at all or does everything still look the same?
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MellaRinn
Exit 13
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Posted - 2007.03.20 11:54:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: MellaRinn @ the icemining comments: TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^
and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.
this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole: 1. Ice prices will go up in hubs. 2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good) 3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations. 4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.
Looks good to me :)
It would increase cost of run POS's a lot, and people who run a POS for Moon mining, or reactions doesn't exactly have it that lucrative as it is. Why dont you pop up a few large towers and start nurse, and then check how good it looks?
You are 100% right. I used to run some POS action and it was nowhere near lucrative. but if you think about it - if POS running costs go up due to fuel prices, the POS product market will bounce back to life (not that it ever really was so lively after it settled down) and possibly running of these beasty moon miners will finally be lucrative again.
What I'm saying is that the change in pricings might affect the end-product prices in a non-proportional way. It is very unsure, yes, but it might just work. And then I'm sure POS owners would be happy too :) On the other hand, if ice product prices go up, more new ppl will join the fold in their retrievers in search for easy money. As well as that, remember that invention is taking over, so moon minerals will have more individual clients. You won't have to make personal deals and try and get orders from t2 magnats, because there will be a more demanding market niche opening from all those entrepreneurs that never scored a BPO yet, but have the skills and will to produce t2 from invention system only. All in all, POS operations are standing on the edge, but might just climb up, imho.
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Natalia Trade
Amarr Trading Company Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.20 11:56:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Hangman69
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Hangman69 "The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "
This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?
That's the point :), to make invention cheaper and a viable alternative. I'm sure this is a step towards ending the lottery :)
They already said they were going to end the lottery, after a final round of bpo giveaways. Invention would be available to push prices down on overly profitable mods/ships. The announcement has not been made that all bpos have been given out and that the lottery is now finished. I still have possible discoveries listed at my agent. Because of that I can't cash out my research points and miss out on a possible bpo. With Invention being half ass implemented (extremely chance based, highly expensive, low me/pe copies, unknown future sustainability), possibly ripping out the bpos just shoves t2 production into an entirely too risky venture and rips out any trust the industrial/trade heart of this game has in CCP.
If you think T2 prices are high now, wait till you start seeing real shortages.
That is the nice thing, there will be no real shortages as you say, any average joe with some skillbooks trained, and some R&D agents to buy datacores from can now invent an item for his/her personal use or to sell for profit.
This means that the t2 modules will now become cheaper and made more available, and the people who hoard the t2 original bpo's will have to adapt and overcome to the lower prices and availability.
YAY!!!! to no more price fixing and gouging of the working man.
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Agent Stone
Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.03.20 13:37:00 -
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Quote: Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.
That's an intresting change. I like the idea of using Carriers on the front line more, but its not the best way of getting that tbh.
I can understand trying to get Carriers on the front lines, and removing there ability to be completly safe in POS's, but removing there ability to assist from a POS does not do that.
Surely is should be the pilots choice, and by not being on the front lines, the nerf would be that they don't make use of there remote repair, damage, or tanking bonuses there ship has.
I presume you can still warp to a safe spot, assign fighters, and then warp to the POS after fighters are deligated? If thats the case, this is more of a hassle than anything.
If fighter delegation does not work when you return to a shield, then Carrier Pilots would just cycle safe spots, or more likely sit on the edge of shields as Pesadel0 mentioned.
Its kind of pointless. Granted maybe a few more Carriers will be seen on the front lines, but we are seeing more and more front line Carrier use anyway, without this.
All it will do is upset a few pilots who now have to sit on the edge of POS Shields, instead of in the POS Sheild.
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Cry Havoc
Caldari No Guts No Glory
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:22:00 -
[167]
Originally by: MellaRinn
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: MellaRinn @ the icemining comments: TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^
and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.
this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole: 1. Ice prices will go up in hubs. 2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good) 3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations. 4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.
Looks good to me :)
It would increase cost of run POS's a lot, and people who run a POS for Moon mining, or reactions doesn't exactly have it that lucrative as it is. Why dont you pop up a few large towers and start nurse, and then check how good it looks?
You are 100% right. I used to run some POS action and it was nowhere near lucrative. but if you think about it - if POS running costs go up due to fuel prices, the POS product market will bounce back to life (not that it ever really was so lively after it settled down) and possibly running of these beasty moon miners will finally be lucrative again.
What I'm saying is that the change in pricings might affect the end-product prices in a non-proportional way. It is very unsure, yes, but it might just work. And then I'm sure POS owners would be happy too :) On the other hand, if ice product prices go up, more new ppl will join the fold in their retrievers in search for easy money. As well as that, remember that invention is taking over, so moon minerals will have more individual clients. You won't have to make personal deals and try and get orders from t2 magnats, because there will be a more demanding market niche opening from all those entrepreneurs that never scored a BPO yet, but have the skills and will to produce t2 from invention system only. All in all, POS operations are standing on the edge, but might just climb up, imho.
If/when invention takes off there will be an increase in the number of T2 items being built. Right now the demand for T2 comps is constant, but people keep putting up moon mining POSs. If the number of T2 things being built increases through invention then the demand for T2 comps will become more dynamic and on the whole it will increase. This will result in the prices becoming more "lively". BPO and BPC sales |
Holy Cheater
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:56:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Holy Cheater on 20/03/2007 14:52:57
Originally by: Tecro Nashota
Originally by: Holy Cheater
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych
Originally by: Holy Cheater *Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
And what should I do to save my implants? Is it fair? Also I should now use a scout for even flying on a shuttle.. It's insane fix.
A MWDing Vigil gets me out of large bubbles every time.
and what about implants? How you gonna save them if you are dying in a bubble?
Get a clone perhaps ?
Oh yeah: buy a slave set and keep it in a jump-clone, a very wise decision :)
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Baleorg
Gallente Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.20 15:24:00 -
[169]
your name sucks tbh ^^
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Talidorn
Pandoras Mining Covanant
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Posted - 2007.03.20 15:26:00 -
[170]
Quote: Drones/Fighters can not be launched and fighters cannot be delegated while inside a control tower force field.
ZOMG!!! No more carrier-care-bearing??? I'M QUITTING EVE! LOL just joking...
Nice change.
Will fighters/drones go AWOL (like if I cloak) if I enter the POS once they are delegated?
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.20 15:41:00 -
[171]
Edited by: Rover Vitesse on 20/03/2007 15:37:50
Originally by: Holy Cheater Oh yeah: buy a slave set and keep it in a jump-clone, a very wise decision :)
I think you misunderstand the risk v reward equation. Can't wait until I catch you in a bubble tbh.
Rovers Chronicles
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Holy Cheater
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Posted - 2007.03.20 16:02:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Rover Vitesse Can't wait until I catch you in a bubble tbh.
You can't place a bubble in empire space or did I miss something? :)
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.20 16:07:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Originally by: Hangman69
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Hangman69 "The limit of data cores you can buy each day has been raised to 4000. "
This can lead to a lot of people fully cashing out their research points if the T2 lottery is done giving out bpos. This will drive invention costs down. Are all lottery BPOs going to be handed out prior to patch deployment?
That's the point :), to make invention cheaper and a viable alternative. I'm sure this is a step towards ending the lottery :)
They already said they were going to end the lottery, after a final round of bpo giveaways. Invention would be available to push prices down on overly profitable mods/ships. The announcement has not been made that all bpos have been given out and that the lottery is now finished. I still have possible discoveries listed at my agent. Because of that I can't cash out my research points and miss out on a possible bpo. With Invention being half ass implemented (extremely chance based, highly expensive, low me/pe copies, unknown future sustainability), possibly ripping out the bpos just shoves t2 production into an entirely too risky venture and rips out any trust the industrial/trade heart of this game has in CCP.
If you think T2 prices are high now, wait till you start seeing real shortages.
That is the nice thing, there will be no real shortages as you say, any average joe with some skillbooks trained, and some R&D agents to buy datacores from can now invent an item for his/her personal use or to sell for profit.
This means that the t2 modules will now become cheaper and made more available, and the people who hoard the t2 original bpo's will have to adapt and overcome to the lower prices and availability.
YAY!!!! to no more price fixing and gouging of the working man.
It all depend on people willingness to sped the isk on skillbooks and datainterface and the time to train the skills.
if before most people were unvilling to sped the 45 milions for research project management to get multiple agents and increase the chance of a BPO, what make you think they will spend some hundred of millions in skillbooks and a lot of skillpoints now to get a chance to produce BPC?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:03:00 -
[174]
Server uptime is delayed to 1730 GMT.
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Kal Auran
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:04:00 -
[175]
30mins behind schedule what a shocker I would have bet my life on it lol
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AS Patriot
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:05:00 -
[176]
Well as long as it is not delayed untill 1730 next week I cannot see the big prob __________________________________________________ The best corp out there: Starhunt - Fallout Project
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Spirited
Caldari Solar Dragon's Nest VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:05:00 -
[177]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Server uptime is delayed to 1730 GMT.
We have nothing to do but wait Mess with the best Die like the rest
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Bambi
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:07:00 -
[178]
is the patch about yet?
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CrestoftheStars
Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:11:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Fredou no shield boost amplifier II skill level 5 rank 3 dropped to
shield boost amplifier II skill level 4 rank 3
hopefully not.... t2 should all be lvl 5 skills + 1 lvl a exstra bonus skill... the other thing is just rediculesly easy to use then ___________________________________________ if eve had This kind of control system combinet with it's SP and advanced weaponry system it have. http://sco.gpotato.com/ |
CrestoftheStars
Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:16:00 -
[180]
Originally by: MellaRinn
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: MellaRinn @ the icemining comments: TBH most ice products are used in lowsec anyway. Ice also USED to be a lucrative enterprise. It now has a chance to be one again, hurray for that, I say ^_^
and if icemining is moved to lowsec - great, never better for the ever-dying piracy.
this can lead to several changes, which I firmly believe will benefit the economy as a whole: 1. Ice prices will go up in hubs. 2. Ice products availability in lowsec and POS-enabled systems (0.7 and lower) will increase or stay put, but not decrease - good) 3. More ppl might consider ninja-icemining in their expensive Mackinaws in lowsec - propelling the t2 indy market a little better than concord-protected mining operations. 4. Ice products decentralisation or new dedicated ice hubs in mid-highsec space - can never be a problem, imho. Although Jita sure is a cool place to do shopping.
Looks good to me :)
It would increase cost of run POS's a lot, and people who run a POS for Moon mining, or reactions doesn't exactly have it that lucrative as it is. Why dont you pop up a few large towers and start nurse, and then check how good it looks?
You are 100% right. I used to run some POS action and it was nowhere near lucrative. but if you think about it - if POS running costs go up due to fuel prices, the POS product market will bounce back to life (not that it ever really was so lively after it settled down) and possibly running of these beasty moon miners will finally be lucrative again.
What I'm saying is that the change in pricings might affect the end-product prices in a non-proportional way. It is very unsure, yes, but it might just work. And then I'm sure POS owners would be happy too :) On the other hand, if ice product prices go up, more new ppl will join the fold in their retrievers in search for easy money. As well as that, remember that invention is taking over, so moon minerals will have more individual clients. You won't have to make personal deals and try and get orders from t2 magnats, because there will be a more demanding market niche opening from all those entrepreneurs that never scored a BPO yet, but have the skills and will to produce t2 from invention system only. All in all, POS operations are standing on the edge, but might just climb up, imho.
whats good about everything getting more exspensive? i mean good for the majority of the players? ___________________________________________ if eve had This kind of control system combinet with it's SP and advanced weaponry system it have. http://sco.gpotato.com/ |
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