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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:33:00 -
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As part of the preparations for the launch of Clone States in November, and as part of our continuous efforts to improve account security for EVE Online, we are currently in the process of working on changes to the EVE Online client that will result in the removal of the ability to log into EVE via launching exefile.exe from the EVE\sharedcache\%servername%\bin\ folder.
This change is currently planned to be implemented on September 20th.
After this date, players will no longer be able to log in directly through the front end of the EVE Online client and will instead be required to use the launcher to log in at all times in order to improve account security and streamline the login process.
If you would like to discuss this change, you can do so in this thread.
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:36:08 -
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Reserved!
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Ilian Amarin
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:45:28 -
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Happy to hear this as it will massively improve account security.
As long as people have the brain to enable 2FA. |
FearlessLittleToaster
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:45:48 -
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Since the launcher is functional now I can't object to this. Please though, for future reference, keep in mind that if you are looking at making major changes to how the launcher works you need to keep it at it's current level of functionality.
Logging in to Eve using the old method, configuring multiple accounts to get set up, etc. etc. was just enough of a chore to stop me playing sometimes if the kid had really run me ragged. Yes, really. The current launcher makes it very easy, and I like that, so don't break it. |
Koenig Yazria
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:50:09 -
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FearlessLittleToaster wrote:Since the launcher is functional now I can't object to this. Please though, for future reference, keep in mind that if you are looking at making major changes to how the launcher works you need to keep it at it's current level of functionality. Logging in to Eve using the old method, configuring multiple accounts to get set up, etc. etc. was just enough of a chore to stop me playing sometimes if the kid had really run me ragged. Yes, really. The current launcher makes it very easy, and I like that, so don't break it.
No it is not functional. It always forgets logins. Half of the time it is not possible to login through the launcher.
What is wrong with you Falcon ??' |
Opner Dresden
Lugus Foundry The Explicit Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:59:45 -
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More nails in the coffin for Eve as CCP continues it's valiant war against people who actually like playing the game enough to have enough clients to justify Isboxer. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:17:19 -
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Aww It's nice to have and far better use for me personally with the separate profiles it creates, and still worked even when the login server or launcher fails.
I'm sad to see it go.
Also, for those that are stlil using the "old" launcher, is that one going to be killed suddenly too? (I know it's not "supported" but it can still be used)
/c
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Koenig Yazria
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
19
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:21:50 -
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I remember when this was going to happen during the lifetime of the old launcher.
And yet many people where convinced that there were no issues.
Whatevs, literally don't want us to play the game. |
Porcelina
ELUSH Rehab
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:24:54 -
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The launcher is broken. Why do you think so many people need to use the exefile directly? Seriously... Do you even play your own game?
Also, what about all of the legitimate players with multiple accounts? You have the least multbox friendly game in existence. Stop it now. Fix it - don't break it for everyone. |
Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:35:12 -
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This is good. Just have to deal wit the problem that sometimes it forget all the account i have on it and i have to re enter all the info.
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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:35:36 -
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First they came for the LINUX users, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a LINUX users.
Then they came for the DirectX 9 users, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a DirectX 9 user.
Then they came for the XP users, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a XP user.
Then they came for .exe users GÇöand I thought keep up the good work CCP weeding out all these losers.
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:39:01 -
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Will third party launchers such as Rapid Light EVE Launcher continue to work?
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On an unrelated note all but one member of my corp, the 7th largest independent corp in New Eden , relies on RLEL to log in to the game.
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Cerian Alderoth
Cult of the Black Monolith
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:39:16 -
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Before you do that, re-visit the launcher's code:
The EVE Online Launcher - Suggestion thread
The fact that the Launcher still won't produce proper error messages, sometimes fails to update or freezes after the update (Twitch incident), uses up to several hundred Megabytes of system memory, and spikes CPU usage every ten seconds to do *nothing* is bad code.
TL:DR The current implementation of the launcher is flawed by design.
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Hinata' Hyuga
Megatokyo LTD
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:44:50 -
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As someone who uses ISBoxer for screen management and doesn't abuse any of the features that have been banned, I do not support this change. Managing 5 accounts is a hassle without third party software and no other third-party software come close to screen management like ISBoxer can. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:46:03 -
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Jackie Fisher wrote:First they came for the LINUX users, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a LINUX users.
Then they came for the DirectX 9 users, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a DirectX 9 user.
Then they came for the XP users, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a XP user.
Then they came for .exe users GÇöand I thought keep up the good work CCP weeding out all these losers.
This is CCP coming for the linux users... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482663&find=unread
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Flying Squidwolf
Indigo Bank
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:47:02 -
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Just had to reinstall the whole damn game because it got stuck in an update loop >_> |
Messenger Of Truth
Butlerian Crusade
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:47:54 -
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If you're doubling down on the launcher, can you make it so that it doesn't lose track of each account every time there is a temporary network connection drop as my computer comes out of sleep mode? Its happend 4 times this week.
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Hulk Miner
White Horse Incorporated
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:49:35 -
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Having only switched over to the new launcher the past 6 months from using Exefile for many years I find its really streamlined my login, who can moan over clicking 1 button to login all your characters?
Maybe i have just been lucky.
As for forgetting all your login details make sure you create another profile then switch your login to this, hey presto.
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Hulk Miner
White Horse Incorporated
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:53:58 -
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Chribba wrote:Aww It's nice to have and far better use for me personally with the separate profiles it creates, and still worked even when the login server or launcher fails. I'm sad to see it go. Also, for those that are stlil using the "old" launcher, is that one going to be killed suddenly too? (I know it's not "supported" but it can still be used) /c
Do you know that you can create multiple profiles in the launcher and assign one to each login, like exefile used to do? This way your graphics settings and display are unique for each login.
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Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:59:01 -
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CCP, can we first please get a resolution to the security issues of non-expiring login/refresh tokens? |
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Cerian Alderoth
Cult of the Black Monolith
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:04:49 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:[quote]The EVE Launcher is now available for Linux. Note that this does in no way suggest that CCP is officially supporting Linux - this is just something I've been working on as a side project, and basically comes out of the work I've done for adding Wine support to the launcher for Mac. I would use my subsciption money to make this happen.
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Koenig Yazria
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:05:08 -
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Hulk Miner wrote:Having only switched over to the new launcher the past 6 months from using Exefile for many years I find its really streamlined my login, who can moan over clicking 1 button to login all your characters?
Maybe i have just been lucky.
As for forgetting all your login details make sure you create another profile then switch your login to this and pin, hey presto.
You have been lucky.
It forgets my logins pretty much every day (and not just that but "hey, we don't know you, please enter a character name"). It gets really annoying reaaaallly fast. |
Cerian Alderoth
Cult of the Black Monolith
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:07:00 -
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TY YMMD!
P.S.: Will the login to the test server (Singularity) continue to work? There is no TFA for Sisi, so I am assuming that your launcher is starting the EXEFILE ?! |
Langbaobao
Tr0pa de elite. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:12:04 -
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TBH, I've always preferred to use the exefile to launch the game since It's much less trouble and it's faster, especially for people that have multiple accounts. If you're so dead set on removing the exefile way of login, you should at least fix the launcher first so it doesn't forget logins all the time like a senile senior citizen or fix the issue with the never-expiring login tokens which is a huge security risk and which people have been pointing at for months now. Really, you guys should fix the launcher first before disabling the exefile login method. I secretly hope that you guys will lazy it up and leave the method in, just more hidden. But yeah, I guess we will see what we see... |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:12:17 -
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Is this part of a larger rework of session ID's and such? In other words... is a proper button that takes you to the character selection screen finally coming thanks to this?
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uninstall this game1
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:12:22 -
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I'm pretty sure this is because they want to disallow alpha account abuse in the future, so they're removing functionality and ease of play in order to fix a broken system that they want to implement.
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Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:19:45 -
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Hinata' Hyuga wrote:As someone who uses ISBoxer for screen management and doesn't abuse any of the features that have been banned, I do not support this change. Managing 5 accounts is a hassle without third party software and no other third-party software come close to screen management like ISBoxer can.
I manage 5 - 15 accounts with another app and this luncher make things easier when loading all the accounts. CCP dont need to make things easy for us, runing the game with several accounts. Is here where the Third-party apps have to adapt to the new things CCP do.
I know it sound mean and rude but its the true.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Hulk Miner
White Horse Incorporated
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:21:51 -
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uninstall this game1 wrote:
I mean, if security was an issue why didn't CCP do it like 3 years ago?
I'm pretty sure this is because they want to disallow alpha account abuse in the future.
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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:24:02 -
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People are complaining about this breaking ISBoxer as if CCP were the ones who developed and maintained ISBoxer. If people who use ISBoxer want ISBoxer to continue working, they really need to bring it up with the developers of ISBoxer, not with CCP.
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Aky Ambraelle
Steel Fleet Black Pearl Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:49:31 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:As part of the preparations for the launch of Clone States in November, and as part of our continuous efforts to improve account security for EVE Online, we are currently in the process of working on changes to the EVE Online client that will result in the removal of the ability to log into EVE via launching exefile.exe from the EVE\sharedcache\%servername%\bin\ folder.
This change is currently planned to be implemented on September 20th.
After this date, players will no longer be able to log in directly through the front end of the EVE Online client and will instead be required to use the launcher to log in at all times in order to improve account security and streamline the login process.
If you would like to discuss this change, you can do so in this thread.
SO, What happens when the launcher DOES'NT WORK??? HOW I can log in EVE if I cannot use the LAUNCHER??? Is there any way to fix it? OR is'nt? I do'nt have N accounts (to use with Isboxer or other third app) I am using the "normal" (aka the new) launcher to play the game. IF the launcher is bugged, HOW i can play this game? I understand that the Launcher connects to a server wich is connected to another server that manages the accounts, but the launcher is not dirrectly connected to the EVE server (THE GAME SERVER). The exefile.exe is a dirrect link to the game server... SO.... (After this date, players will no longer be able to log in directly through the front end of the EVE Online client and will instead be required to use the launcher to log in at all times) WHY I (WE players) CANNOT LOGIN DIRECTLY?????
AND another question, ARE YOU GOING TO KILL THIS AWESOME GAME??? 1. FREE TO PLAY will be a "success" = STAR WARS- THE OLD REPUBLIC is one, BUT YOU CANNOT USE the "STORY ITEMS" (you will need to pay for them..) - well..... NO EVE ONLINE story....
2. WHO IS BEHIND THOSE STUPID CHANGES????
And the most important question:
3. WHO CARES???? |
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