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Jynx Archipedigo
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
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Posted - 2016.09.08 16:15:20 -
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Xavier Arcesium wrote:Teinyhr wrote:Seeing as the launcher is somekind of mini-browser in itself, and IIRC has been infected with malware before, I have to seriously wonder and doubt how does this enhance account security in any way?
P.S. I have not used the client login system since how many years has it been we've had the launcher, just saying, I'm not buying the "improved security" thing at all. Presuming they do it right, it's a way to prevent anything that isn't an official launcher to run exefile. That said, I hope the tradeoff is worth it. I have had a lot of trouble running the launcher myself and would hate to lose the workaround.
It is pretty much a done deal, I don't think I've ever seen CCP not do something they said they where gonna do, no matter the backlash. It will remain to be seen if it gets reversed or how many months after the fact. |
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
56
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Posted - 2016.09.08 22:42:59 -
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Jynx Archipedigo wrote: Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client. The ingame browser never went away. It will be removed this fall. The only things they did was change the default behaviour to open the system browser instead of the IGB. You can still open the IGB and browse to your leisure, or drag images into it. Just count the days you have left as long as you can do it, because it won't be long. |
Primary This Rifter
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
1210
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Posted - 2016.09.09 00:25:12 -
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Assia Eko wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Assia Eko wrote:Hello,
I used to login through a SSH Tunnel that is installed on my main computer at home for security reasons, and in order to log in from places with unsafes connections (airport, train station, public wifi, work..)
I was using the /server:127.0.0.1 option in the shortlink to exefile.exe.
Will it still be possible to add such option to the executable via the launcher ?
Thank you,
Assia Just run a VPN from home. A lot of computers are protected from installing a TAP interface on them (like 99% of the public computers). Although they can run Putty (or any other SSH client) and the game can still be launched from a usb stick. So, my question is still the same, will it still be possible to add parameters to exefile.exe for it to connect to localhost, for instance. Thank you, Assia What about using a TUN interface? |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.09.09 00:47:41 -
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Jynx Archipedigo wrote:Seriously CCP, you got some weird things going on...
Couple months ago the in game browser was removed, understandable, maintaining browser support even if you can leech mozilla source code legally but is a security bug haven and PITA .. So when you click links/saved bookmarks client WAS giving a warning and opens your default browser. Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client. Kinda shocked me, don't know why it was back or if it was supposed to be back.
Now I'm guessing, and I could be wrong, it isn't supposed to be back and if that is the case it raises even stronger argument that there could be mismanagement in the build repositories and deployment. If you circle it back around to the thread's topic, if something that was supposed to and was removed somehow reappears. Why in the world should we as consumers be laid back about an aspect of the way the game works that has offered a work around to other issues frequent or infrequent as depending on the individuals experience. Running the exefile directly on an up to date patch virtually always works and quite frankly is quicker if you have previously quit the launcher and want to switch characters on the same account.
I'll stand corrected if it can be pointed out the browser was intentionally reinstated
More people who no idea what they're talking about complaining about things they don't understand...
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Jynx Archipedigo
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
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Posted - 2016.09.09 01:50:11 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Jynx Archipedigo wrote:Seriously CCP, you got some weird things going on...
Couple months ago the in game browser was removed, understandable, maintaining browser support even if you can leech mozilla source code legally but is a security bug haven and PITA .. So when you click links/saved bookmarks client WAS giving a warning and opens your default browser. Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client. Kinda shocked me, don't know why it was back or if it was supposed to be back.
Now I'm guessing, and I could be wrong, it isn't supposed to be back and if that is the case it raises even stronger argument that there could be mismanagement in the build repositories and deployment. If you circle it back around to the thread's topic, if something that was supposed to and was removed somehow reappears. Why in the world should we as consumers be laid back about an aspect of the way the game works that has offered a work around to other issues frequent or infrequent as depending on the individuals experience. Running the exefile directly on an up to date patch virtually always works and quite frankly is quicker if you have previously quit the launcher and want to switch characters on the same account.
I'll stand corrected if it can be pointed out the browser was intentionally reinstated More people who no idea what they're talking about complaining about things they don't understand...
I do understand quite a bit, somethings in depth and breadth far exceeding anything I would be inclined to share or even be permitted to particularly involving PC gaming on this or mahny other forums. But as I had not used the bookmarks from accessories and only clicked on links appearing in chat. Hence the complete quantifiers in my statement, plus the concession I may have been mistaken in advance. Since I had already experienced the apparent first stage of a transition and had no reason to suspect that the full transition had not been executed since it wasn't a potentially system critical aspect of the client. All in all it doesn't detract from other statements I have made in regards to the matter at hand. My post postulated a viable premise against an assumption that I admitted could possibly be inaccurate and had the humility to question it myself. The quip in response was pointless and only demonstrates a lack of understanding in a different direction. The remainder of my post still can stand without the postulated return of the IGB when it was not removed but altered in advance of final removal. |
Henricks
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Posted - 2016.09.09 02:11:12 -
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CCP,
WE DONT Use you're Launcher because we can not past our user name and passwords in to the fields, when we try to pin it too the launcher the next time we launch the launcher we have to retype the user name and passwords.....
This is way I use the EXEFILE................ Don't like wasting time on typing out my long passwords, and having to do it twice because I messed up, that just grrrrr
1:) FIX the launcher first, with the ability to past user name and passwords 2:) Let us have a windows lay out program from the launcher 3:) Then Remove the EVEFILE from the bin 4:) most everyone is happy :)
Just my thoughts
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.09.09 05:19:37 -
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Jynx Archipedigo wrote:stuff
So instead you go on a rant with the basis being something completely false. Pretty much invalidating your entire post.
Also paragraphs bro. Use them
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.09.09 05:21:06 -
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Henricks wrote:CCP,
WE DONT Use you're Launcher because we can not past our user name and passwords in to the fields, when we try to pin it too the launcher the next time we launch the launcher we have to retype the user name and passwords.....
This is way I use the EXEFILE................ Don't like wasting time on typing out my long passwords, and having to do it twice because I messed up, that just grrrrr
1:) FIX the launcher first, with the ability to past user name and passwords 2:) Let us have a windows lay out program from the launcher 3:) Then Remove the EVEFILE from the bin 4:) most everyone is happy :)
Just my thoughts
Henricks
Who is 'WE'?
Pasting username and passwords has been disabled on multiple platforms (online banking for example) because it's a security risk. |
Airin Star
ATAC OTMOPO3OK B KOCMOCE. FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT STELLAR SYSTEMS
11
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Posted - 2016.09.09 07:27:43 -
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I wonder if CCP point is "This new launcher is long to load, full of bugs, working by holidays, shows a lot of trash, have requirments higher then game, but sure you will like it." |
She11by
Big Boys Don't Cry Kids With Guns Alliance
6
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Posted - 2016.09.09 07:54:54 -
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Launcher keep forgeting accounts and passwords 24\7 fix it PLZ |
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Tristanor
Majorum Gnavita In Industria
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Posted - 2016.09.09 08:16:28 -
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quess what? Just logged in in the launcher and....all my account info (again) gone.... That is the reason I use isboxer....cause the launcher is broken now for months. So if you weant to leave us without the .exe, give us a launcher that just is working |
Tanalasin Saraki
Aesir Corp. Who Dares Wins.
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Posted - 2016.09.09 08:31:38 -
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I'm actually beginning to wonder if any of these people complaining have thought that it might be down to one simple thing... like letting it have access through your firewall???
Sometimes it can be little things like that, that people seem to overlook.
Aesir Corp HR Officer - Keeping the CEO, XO and Corp updated with news.
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Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.09.09 10:33:49 -
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Jynx Archipedigo wrote:Hence the complete quantifiers in my statement, plus the concession I may have been mistaken in advance. Is there a reason why you completely ignored the explanation I've given you and decided to answer in wide swaths to a later post containing a snappy remark which didn't even answer your question? Just wondering. |
Jynx Archipedigo
Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners
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Posted - 2016.09.09 13:17:12 -
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Drazz Caylen wrote:Jynx Archipedigo wrote: Until I notice yesterday BANG in game browser back when I tried using a previously saved BM in client. The ingame browser never went away. It will be removed this fall. The only things they did was change the default behaviour to open the system browser instead of the IGB. You can still open the IGB and browse to your leisure, or drag images into it. Just count the days you have left as long as you can do it, because it won't be long.
I quoted backed to this instead of the following quotes of quotes posts, it was appreciated. As I did request to be corrected if I had made faults in my observation since I wasn't 100%. I did not intend to gloss over you correction and thoughts on the IGB portion of one of my previous posts. My interaction to the IGB was usually to seeing it open, when double clicking links. After the time it was stated it was being removed my experience was it gave a pop up and launched a tab in my default browser. Even for a couple bm's in accessories that previously opened with the IGB. It was the Eve-Survival bm that opened with the IGB that surprised me, since other bm's and links had opened externally until that specific instance worked.
It was not surprising to receive quoted comments about the aspects I called into question and why if the situation as observed could have been caused with other(s) devaluing the entire comment as lacking any insight. Even when I proposed it as conditional based on an observation for the more detailed why it could have happened and how it relates to topic at hand it true.
So in a nutshell, thank you for giving me the correction, plus added thank you for understanding the premise behind my thought. Especially when others find it so easy to be grammar faciasts and respond in clever little quips |
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.09.09 13:51:46 -
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Jynx Archipedigo wrote:It was the Eve-Survival bm that opened with the IGB that surprised me, since other bm's and links had opened externally until that specific instance worked. This really is curious if you consider how even bookmarking the default website (evegate) and clicking it from elsewhere prompts the outgame browser. Btw, thanks for the explanation of your reasoning, and you're right. Funky cats left-right-n-center, eh /) |
Edd Cobon-Han
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.09 14:00:55 -
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removing the possiblility to start via the exefile brings a big problem for all those who used to play on their laptop with dual VGA
If you have a combo like me (Nvidia GTX 860 + Intel HD 4600) you hardly NEED the exefile , otherwise you can only play with dat damn Intel HD grafucks and this is no fun |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2302
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Posted - 2016.09.09 14:41:38 -
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Edd Cobon-Han wrote:removing the possiblility to start via the exefile brings a big problem for all those who used to play on their laptop with dual VGA If you have a combo like me (Nvidia GTX 860 + Intel HD 4600) you hardly NEED the exefile , otherwise you can only play with dat damn Intel HD grafucks and this is no fun With dual-GPU systems, in some instances Windows will report the integrated GPU even when the discrete GPU is actually in use. In those cases, Eve may display the wrong GPU name in the graphics options window, but you may still be using the correct GPU. I would use the frame rate viewer (ctrl-F in-game) to see if you are actually experiencing a frame rate drop when, say, unplugged vs. plugged in.
Can you use the in-game tool (press the F12 key and click Report Bug) to file a bug report that explains why the launcher doesn't work for you? This will give us a complete snapshot of your system, and we can investigate the behavior on a similar system here. Be very specific in your report what steps you're taking to select the GPU. Please feel free to mail me the bug report number once it's submitted.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.09 18:45:43 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:
Can you use the in-game tool (press the F12 key and click Report Bug) to file a bug report that explains why the launcher doesn't work for you?
So we have to log in with a launcher that doesn't work, to tell you that the launcher doesn't work.
I suppose that the next patch notes will be displayed prominently.
GÇ¥But the patch notes were on display . . . GÇ¥ - CCP GÇ¥On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar in CCP headquaters to find them.GÇ¥ - Customer GÇ¥ThatGÇÖs the display department.GÇ¥ - CCP GÇ¥With a flashlight.GÇ¥ - Customer GÇ¥Ah, well the lights had probably gone.GÇ¥ - CCP GÇ¥So had the stairs.GÇ¥ - Customer GÇ¥But look, you found the patch notes didnGÇÖt you?GÇ¥ - CCP GÇ¥Yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.GÇ¥ - Customer
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6177
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Posted - 2016.09.09 18:56:23 -
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https://community.eveonline.com/support/submit-bug-report for submitting bugs out of client.
doing it _in_ client means CCP gets more information. (as at least some of the people are saying that they can't use the launcher, so they're obviously using the exefile atm.)
Aside from that, the response wasn't in a 'launcher doesn't work' report. it was in a 'launcher started programs don't cause the second GPU on my laptop' report
Woo! CSM XI!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Old IT Guy
Geriatric Capsuleers Inc
0
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Posted - 2016.09.09 19:53:30 -
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Personally, I'd like to know how we're supposed to launch the game with no EXEFile when the launcher INEVITABLY breaks again.
Curious minds, and all that. |
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Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate Circle-Of-Two
158
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Posted - 2016.09.09 20:16:09 -
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This will literally stop me playing the game.
The new launcher does not work and CCP have ignored all bug reports I filed.
Guess I should not have resubbed an account yesterday since I'll only get another 12 days of play out of it. |
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.09.09 20:43:06 -
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I see nothing wrong with CCP Darwin's statement. I don't know about you guys, but Edd Cobon-Han stated how playing on Intel HD graphics is not fun. This infers he actually gets into the game via the launcher and only uses the exefile to make sure his dedicated GPU gets to work. All the hyperboles thrown by later users about how to boot something which doesn't work in order to fix something seems to be a lack of reading comprehension. I stand corrected if the written context differs from the explicit meaning. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2302
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Posted - 2016.09.09 23:20:55 -
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Muul Udonii wrote:CCP have ignored all bug reports I filed. Please do not assume this is the case.
Unfortunately, our current bug reporting system doesn't give you a lot of visibility into what's happening internally with your report, and we do not guarantee a personal response to bug reports (since, unlike support tickets, bug reports are not for requests for personal help.)
Your bug reports are quite valuable to us, and we very much appreciate that you take the time to write and submit them.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1793
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Posted - 2016.09.10 01:40:13 -
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Drazz Caylen wrote:Jynx Archipedigo wrote:Hence the complete quantifiers in my statement, plus the concession I may have been mistaken in advance. Is there a reason why you completely ignored the explanation I've given you and decided to answer in wide swaths to a later post containing a snappy remark which didn't even answer your question? Just wondering. Tsukino Stareine wrote:Also paragraphs bro. Use them Before executing superficial low blows, make sure your own grammar is in check Tsukino Stareine wrote:More people who no idea what they're talking about complaining about things they don't understand...
Wasn't a stab at the guys grammar it was a plea for my eyes.
Don't be so quick to be anti-grammar nazi, just makes you look like a fool when it backfires |
0mni Ca
Shattered Chaos Angry Raccoons
57
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Posted - 2016.09.10 02:36:12 -
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What about the known Launcher bug preventing accounts from being remembered. Basically accounts get removed from launcher and you have to readd them back to launcher. So if you have more than 1 account, it can be aggravating. |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1795
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Posted - 2016.09.10 02:43:10 -
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I have multiple accounts and it's literally happened like twice in 6 months, from those purges that they told us happened |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3934
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Posted - 2016.09.10 02:43:50 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Muul Udonii wrote:CCP have ignored all bug reports I filed. Please do not assume this is the case. We are not assuming anything. We base this conclusion on one very observable fact:
The bugs do not get fixed.
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Dravar
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.10 04:01:03 -
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The exefile is just needed as a backup because CCP keeps butchering the launcher when changing it and is too incompetent to test the new launcher thoroughly before releasing it. |
Nakaara Adahsa
Deep Void Enterprises
24
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Posted - 2016.09.10 09:05:03 -
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Tanalasin Saraki wrote:I'm actually beginning to wonder if any of these people complaining have thought that it might be down to one simple thing... like letting it have access through your firewall???
Sometimes it can be little things like that, that people seem to overlook.
Most of the people on this thread who have reported login issues via the launcher have described it as either sporadic or intermittent with high frequency, i.e., anywhere from a small to large percentage of the time. Firewall configuration issues usually manifest at a 100% failure rate, so that's not consistent with these launcher symptoms.
However, if the firewall is embedded in router hardware, then it is quite possible that either routing-related configuration or a hardware malfunction could cause periodic login failures. In this case, though, I would expect a lot of other internet applications to have periodic or perhaps constant problems.
A number of months ago I had an old hardware-based firewall that began to degrade bandwidth, drop packets, etc. This didn't cause any problems for EVE actually, but some streaming applications were severely affected until I replaced the hardware.
The latter is a positive data point for EVE: I had a customer-side network issue that both the launcher and the game client were able to handle OK without any apparent effect on either login or the game.
The launcher login issues I've experienced are separate from the above incident. They occurred long before that hardware began to malfunction, and they persisted after I replaced it. Login via Exefile has been reliable for me throughout all of this and for several years of playing the game. |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1797
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Posted - 2016.09.10 10:28:11 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Muul Udonii wrote:CCP have ignored all bug reports I filed. Please do not assume this is the case. We are not assuming anything. We base this conclusion on one very observable fact: The bugs that I feel need to be fixed first are not fixed yet
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