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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:39:03 -
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Cyno & Covert ops cyno should be warmed up before light it up, so pilot have time to take decision. Here are some suggestions: - 60 seconds warm up for Cynosural Field Generator - 10 seconds warm up for Covert Cynosural Field Generator - Role bonus for Combat Force Recon ships (lachesis/huggin etc.): -80% warm up duration
Cyno gives huge advantage to citizens of home systems, lets make cyno a bit balanced. I think it's about time.. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3018
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:46:30 -
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the entire point of a cyno is "suddenly spaceships" particularly with BLOPS where every second counts
Citadel worm hole tax
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
675
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:50:48 -
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also, suddenly spaceships is goddamn hilarious...
Hell i still keep this on my dropbox...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9387691/Mark1dot2.png
EDIT: Yes that was our actual dunking fleet back when we still rolled in our C5/C5/NS... the amount of fights we didnt get into was hilarious, nullbears scattering from our cruisers:) |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:51:06 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:the entire point of a cyno is "suddenly spaceships" particularly with BLOPS where every second counts no problem, just light it up in combat force recon ship. |
FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
675
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:53:39 -
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2 seconds is more then plenty to get the cruiser taken off the field though...
And 60 seconds just says "we can never deploy combat cynos again" since not even heavily tanked full buffer capitals last long enough for that one |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:56:17 -
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the point is to leave role of suddenly cyno to a specific ships with role bonus. but still one can put a cyno in any ship to light up for JF or when transporting a capitals. |
FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
675
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:59:38 -
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if it takes more then 1 second the inevitable responce will be "alpha that cyno ship overheat everything and paste it" if it doesnt take more then 1 second it doesnt matter...
So now show me on the hulk where the scary men touched you
edit: rounders is pretty cool though |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:00:48 -
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Teddy KGB wrote:the point is to leave role of suddenly cyno to a specific ships with role bonus. but still one can put a cyno in any ship to light up for JF or when transporting a capitals.
why??
and do you have any idea how fast you can remove a recon from the field?
we have even have Navpocs popped almost imidietly after a cyno was lit
Citadel worm hole tax
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
675
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:02:51 -
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He lost an ishtar to a niddy and a thanny, i guess thats why he is butthurt... |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:04:02 -
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And *** yes. Pay a price for dropping people. 60 seconds is enough if you have arms to hold a fleet. But what you want is just to cyno up in Velator and all dictors bubles are instantly in the grid. If only that was used for a big battles, but people use a cyno to kill a solo pilot with 10 carriers. lol i think solo pilot deserve some mercy. |
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
676
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:06:58 -
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awwwww it thinks eve has mercy...
It is so cute...
Can i have your stuff?
EDIT: ALSO, your idea is backwards, a 60second timer means its useless in fleet fights and ONLY usable when ganking solo players who cant take a heavily tanked ship... |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3020
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:11:44 -
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lol the guy thinks an MMO should be balanced around solo and one built around rewarding working with others no less
Citadel worm hole tax
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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:13:54 -
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I play this game for 10 years and you cannot imagine how many ships cheap and expansive i've lost and killed. I don't care about myself ever, coz all of your cheap suddenlyness is expected for me and i know how to deal with it and always ready for a cyno. All i want is EVE not to die like this, coz i travel every day for 2-4 hours in space and meet no pvp in emptry systems. People (especially new pilots) just don't want to waste their time for fitting a ship and got killed in seconds without any chance. So thats why i'm posting this. In 2006-2010 was a time when not everyone could drop a capital or bridge with a titan just because it took time to train this type of ship. now with many old characters and skillpoints boosters it's not a problem. |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:14:40 -
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FireFrenzy wrote:awwwww it thinks eve has mercy...
It is so cute...
Can i have your stuff?
EDIT: ALSO, your idea is backwards, a 60second timer means its useless in fleet fights and ONLY usable when ganking solo players who cant take a heavily tanked ship... you read bad. read it again |
FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
677
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:15:58 -
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Awwww it thinks cynos are unfair...
You realise we're only taunting you until the ISD gets here and slaps this thread into oblivion right? I was a capital pilot at 25m SP back in 09... Capitals and t2 cruisers are easy to skill for... |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:17:39 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:lol the guy thinks an MMO should be balanced around solo and one built around rewarding working with others no less i just look at ONLINE stats for eve and see it dropping down. people quit playing eve so, you can think whatever you want but one day you'll face the problem that nothing to think about, coz only player in this game will be you and your friend sitting in titan. both.. in one. lol and all you'll be able to drop is an NPC in asteroid belt |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3022
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:21:40 -
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HOLY **** WHEN DID I GET A TITAN!!!!?!?!!
Citadel worm hole tax
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
677
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:22:00 -
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So you want the people who join the pvp game eve and engage in pvp to not be able to do the pvp they enjoy?
I used to go blopsing every night with 10 guys, it was great fun... Granted, probably not for my target, but hey! screw those guys those rattlesnakes and afktars look good on my killboard! |
FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
677
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Posted - 2016.09.06 17:22:58 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:HOLY **** WHEN DID I GET A TITAN!!!!?!?!!
When you werent looking, frenzy has been 46 days off titans for the last ~80 million skillpoints... I have fleet command 5 and everything! |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2016.09.06 19:32:07 -
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Teddy KGB wrote:And *** yes. Pay a price for dropping people. 60 seconds is enough if you have arms to hold a fleet. But what you want is just to cyno up in Velator and all dictors bubles are instantly in the grid. If only that was used for a big battles, but people use a cyno to kill a solo pilot with 10 carriers. lol i think solo pilot deserve some mercy.
You don't deserve a damned thing. You're not entitled to anything but what you can take and keep.
Take what you can - give nothing back.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
498
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Posted - 2016.09.06 21:47:27 -
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OPs name sounds familiar. Have I hotdropped you in the past?
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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FT Cold
R3d Fire Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
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Posted - 2016.09.07 00:28:52 -
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The cyno is never going to be balanced. It's a broken mechanic that can never be fixed and no amount of jump or spool up timers will help. The solution would have been to never implement jump drives for anything other than jump freighters, but the genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back. CCP doesn't have the grapes to make any more changes to it or related mechanics so you'd better get used to it. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.09.07 00:30:34 -
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How are they unbalanced? If you don't want to be hot dropped but down a jammer
Citadel worm hole tax
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FT Cold
R3d Fire Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
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Posted - 2016.09.07 00:42:18 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:How are they unbalanced? If you don't want to be hot dropped but down a jammer
Don't be a demagogue, there are wider implications to this module that protecting a ratting system from blops pilots. Think for one second before you write and imagine that EVE existed to this point without cynos, and in the next patch they're going to be introduced. How do you think they'd be received? |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3032
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Posted - 2016.09.07 00:55:29 -
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Lol you ask me to think for one second and you imply that a cyborg jammer will stop a blops
Citadel worm hole tax
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FT Cold
R3d Fire Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
82
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Posted - 2016.09.07 01:16:30 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Lol you ask me to think for one second and you imply that a cyborg jammer will stop a blops
Neither stated nor implied. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
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Posted - 2016.09.07 01:24:11 -
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Teddy, it's a shame to see you post such a whiny thread. I had such respect for you after all the good fights we've had in Syndicate... I didn't realize that all we needed to do was light a cyno to make you forget your balls and run away.
Cynosural fields work just fine the way they are. If you cannot handle them, then go play in high sec or wormholes. Leave null sec and low sec to those who can handle the element of surprise hotdropping. I don't hotdrop that often, but I cannot imagine 0.0 or low sec without that element of "Oh ****! There's a cyno! What's coming through it?"
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
677
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Posted - 2016.09.07 06:05:10 -
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Yarrr |
Tragot Gomndor
Khanid's Damnation
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Posted - 2016.09.07 08:03:46 -
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Cynos are fine. And totaly not the reason why people leave. When i "try" to solo, i get bored after 5minutes, cuz noone to play with, but cynos are not the problem. I cant say how to "fix" eve, but take away one of the last toys to score kills will not help this game. It would bury it.
The legacy long range jump drives and the inability to use gates were the things that made caps once special. At least to me.
Cynos are fine.
NONONONONONO
TO
CAPS IN HIGHSEC
NO
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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente
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Posted - 2016.09.07 16:00:34 -
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I don't understand why most people think that i'm writing this post, coz i've been dropped. I'm warried about cyno, coz people getting dropped and if not leaving eve, then they just quit flying solo or small scale. and we meet fleets in space rarely. Yes my butt is hurt about that. I'd like to fly in space full of pilots and ships that making content, but instead i see only some known camp systems where people don't even chase me further when i move next systems. so right. i think that cyno is a part of things that make eve boring. i don't suggest to kill a cyno system. but make role ships that can use it without penalties i wrote above. thats all. somebody say that solo or small scale pvpers are not that type of players who deserve attention of devs. but this is a type of players who make a daily content in eve. big fights do not happen every day, so think about it once again. |
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