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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.11 16:34:02 -
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my friend and i were roaming for 6 hours today. funny, but we had 3 cynodrops today. luckely we evaded all of them with kills of cynoships, but the fact is that everywhere capital ships are dropping. and it's really time to do something with it. besides we've met roaming dudes only one time for entire roam. this is sad.. |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.11 17:39:56 -
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3 cynos in a row, Carl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cm7lg8Of5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ptan444GqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwUBwBjk0Qc
maybe it's time to do something with cynos? oO |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.12 20:53:27 -
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another day = another cyno... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f_DqUVPnF0 |
Lan Wang
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Posted - 2016.10.13 08:31:02 -
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move space?
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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.13 08:55:55 -
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Lan Wang wrote:move space? wha? |
Rivr Luzade
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.13 09:59:54 -
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I don't see much of a problem there. Sure, it can be frustrating (just like your alliances' dicking around in Curse in general, but that's just a sidenote); however, you can easily scout their location and counter these 2 carriers with 2 dreads or a BS fleet. You have the numbers for that counter drop.
Your suggestions for cynos, however, would not fix the problem -- they would make cynos completely unfeasible for next to anything.
Moving space, on the other hand, is also not a solution to anything. You just need to prepare a bit to teach these cocky kids a lesson or two.
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Ras Blumin
A Cross The Universe
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Posted - 2016.10.13 11:38:11 -
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If not adding a spool-up timer, how about adding something like a ship hp and resist penalty to cynos? Something like -20% to each for regular, -10% for covert. |
Lan Wang
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Posted - 2016.10.13 11:43:37 -
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Ras Blumin wrote:If not adding a spool-up timer, how about adding something like a ship hp and resist penalty to cynos? Something like -20% to each for regular, -10% for covert.
Why?
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Ras Blumin
A Cross The Universe
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Posted - 2016.10.13 11:59:59 -
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To make it more risky to fit a cyno obviously. You can still hotdrop people, your cyno ship is just more likely to go down than it is now. |
Lan Wang
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Posted - 2016.10.13 12:04:50 -
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it doesnt make it risky at all, as soon as that cyno is up the fleet are jumping, people use brick tanked t3's which wont make any difference
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Ras Blumin
A Cross The Universe
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Posted - 2016.10.13 12:21:06 -
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Why not, then? Double it while it's active for all I care. |
Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.13 12:23:49 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote: Your suggestions for cynos, however, would not fix the problem -- they would make cynos completely unfeasible for next to anything .
why so? i wrote about a role ship which can light cyno instantly. but it must be only one exact type of ship. as i suggested it can be a recon ship. |
Rivr Luzade
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.13 13:25:00 -
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Teddy KGB wrote:why so? i wrote about a role ship which can light cyno instantly. but it must be only one exact type of ship. as i suggested it can be a combat recon ship like lachesis or rook, etc. it's just stupid when caracal or velator can easily light up same instant cyno like a covert recon ship which have special role for it. You cannot create logistics cyno chain with Recons or Covert Ops, unless you are finally allowed to RL electrocute your alliance members into submission to protect the cyno chains whenever we logistics people need the trips. Since this is not possible, it is utterly unfeasible to do such a chain due to prohibitive cost, time and skill requirements.
Why is it stupid that a Caracal can light a cyno? The point of the combat aspect of the cyno is the unpredictability. You do not know what ship is going to light a cyno. Unless you use your brain. A Caracal that engages a Megathron is fishy enough to stop engaging and first check what happens. Or you just power through the Caracal with your blasters. Removing the cyno ability from all ships but a very select few, the unpredictability is out of the window and you know all the time what to expect from all ships. Furthermore, a Caracal or Velator cannot light the same instant cyno that a Recon can light. In order to get you into their range of influence, they need to reveal themselves right from entering the system or grid. Recons, Force Recons in particular, can get close and cosy with you without you even noticing it.
Lan Wang wrote:it doesnt make it risky at all, as soon as that cyno is up the fleet are jumping, people use brick tanked t3's which wont make any difference The more you tank it, the more HP you would lose with such a penalty.
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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.13 14:09:02 -
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you talk in position of a hotdropper, thats the point. you are ok with curent system coz it's good for you. as i told - all ships must have ability to light up a cyno, but not instantly. cyno must be predicted and there will be a balance. when simple ship light it up you are warned ~1 minute before big ships come in, or you see a combat recone ship and you know it can light up a cyno. this must be done for balancing small scale pvp. because in big fights everybody know that there will be a cyno, and when combat recon present in field it will make no change to the battle. my goal is to make people get away from easy kill farming with caps. cyno in simple ship with spool-up timer will make people to pay some price of brain activity. simply in such case you need a tanking ship like deimos with active tank to hold a target for a minute, but not in dumb caracal or velator. also should mention that ship need to take no penalties like velocity while cyno worming up, so one will be able to hold target by moving with it. also there should be a new skill book with x5 modifier that reduce 1 minute timer for 30 seconds. this mean that combat recon ship need to have base cyno timer 30 seconds, so it will be reduced to 0 with 5lvl skill. many people here talk here that i have a buthurt about that cynos, thats why i started to post this videos, just to make them understand that i'm worried not about myself but about other people who may have it. i fly solo and small scale for 10 years and i just see that each year i meet less people in space and i'm pretty sure that one of big reasons for it is the cyno disbalance. no skill needed to drop a lone ship in space. but big skill needed to evade cyno drop. so when one player don't need skill to win, and other player need skill no to loose - thats called disbalance. |
Lan Wang
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Posted - 2016.10.13 14:24:39 -
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"when you see a combat recon", when its cloaked or cant be seen on dscan?
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Teddy KGB
Crushing Power of Gallente Galaxy Spiritus
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Posted - 2016.10.13 14:37:04 -
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Lan Wang wrote:"when you see a combat recon", when its cloaked or cant be seen on dscan? Cloaky recon is a FORCE RECON SHIP COMBAT RECON SHIP invisible on dscan, right. this isn't bad for cyno role ship. |
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