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Norcuron
Caldari
Community for Justice
G.U.A.R.D.
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Posted - 2007.03.17 10:23:00 -
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Lately instant war declarations seem to be very popular.
Declare a war and instantly retract it again. This way you can fight immediately, without having to wait for 24 hours. Even though the war will last for only 24 hours.
But that¦s enough time to harass and destroy some freighters not belonging to Noob Corps.
CCP, I know this has been issued before, and no statement from your side came up. (Thread was closed and deleted)
Can you please tell us, if this is a known issue and if you¦re working on it or if you have big problems fixing it.
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Ganre Sorc
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Posted - 2007.03.17 10:26:00 -
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this seems a little out of place...
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Zyrie
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:04:00 -
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not very constructive... where would be the correct place in your mind to post this?
I know that there were already petitions and threads, but nothing happend up to now!
And even the patch coming out in a few days does not address this issue (at least it is not mentioned). CPP shoudl understand that this is a very serious issue and they need to solve it ASAP.
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:35:00 -
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So that explains why we got 3-4 wardecs which was retracted just after...
Do we want a list of exploiters? I assume it will be sufficient for a petition whenever it happens?
Pinky
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Norcuron
Caldari
Community for Justice
G.U.A.R.D.
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:48:00 -
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Yep. It¦s an easy way to kill freighter and hauler.....
And you can¦t really react to it, since most people fly their ships afk through high sec systems.
I hope you can petition losses due to this "bug"....... Or all Empire Freighter Pilots will have to join Newbie-Corps to be safe.
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Elgar Lightfoot
Lightfoot Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:55:00 -
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I was about to buy a freighter. I guess I'll wait till this exploit is fixed.
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Fader Bane
Caldari
Black Knight Buccaneers
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 16:34:00 -
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i know that happens with my alliance, but its because we are at war with privateer alliance, so everytime someone leaves the privateers you get those instant war dec emails.
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Terghon Tu
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.17 16:43:00 -
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I've petitioned this and gotten a response. There is no exploit with instant wardecs/retractions. What happens is a corporation leaves an alliance with which you are at war. To avoid an exploit, this corp is still at war with you for 24 hours (the normal retraction period). The EVEmails make it look like they instantly declare and retract and get 24 hours of "free" fighting, but that's not the case.
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Sir Nimmo
Amarr
Direct Intent
The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.03.17 17:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Terghon Tu
The EVEmails make it look like they instantly declare and retract and get 24 hours of "free" fighting, but that's not the case.
Has anyone tried this out? I might get a couple of alts, start some corps, and try it out and see what happens. If it works I will let you all know I guess, if not, I will let you know anyway...
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Helix Fluxx
Caldari
Contempo Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.17 18:23:00 -
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I'm sure I read another thread on this very same subject about a week ago. It was the same answer then too. It's also the correct answer, as that's all that's happening.
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Kumarai
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Posted - 2007.03.19 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Terghon Tu
I've petitioned this and gotten a response. There is no exploit with instant wardecs/retractions. What happens is a corporation leaves an alliance with which you are at war. To avoid an exploit, this corp is still at war with you for 24 hours (the normal retraction period). The EVEmails make it look like they instantly declare and retract and get 24 hours of "free" fighting, but that's not the case.
I really think it is something more than just this. The same Alliance has declared and retracted war with our alliance every day for the past 8 days. I can't see why it would happen with such regularity... And it's not just the Crop that declared war that remains at war with us, there alliance is still at war as well.
Something ain't right here...
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Serj Darek
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:03:00 -
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I don't know if it has something to do with people that have a war and then join an alliance? The war follows into alliance? If said corp leave alliance, does the war follow them out of alliance?
Dunno, but we get tons of "Declare / Retract" mails every day due to corps leaving alliances that we declared on.
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shuckstar
Gallente
Order of New Blood
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Posted - 2007.03.20 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Serj Darek
I don't know if it has something to do with people that have a war and then join an alliance? The war follows into alliance? If said corp leave alliance, does the war follow them out of alliance?
Yes for 24hrs 
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Menkalina
Gallente
The Lucian Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:09:00 -
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this is rubbish, before a corporation can declair war first it must vote which is a 24hour waiting period regardless if all have voted or not. At the end of this 24hours you can then dec the corp.
So for a start we have 24 hours waiting.
Only alliances who war dec can bypass the 24 hour voting period.
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vinnymcg
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.22 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Menkalina
this is rubbish, before a corporation can declair war first it must vote which is a 24hour waiting period regardless if all have voted or not. At the end of this 24hours you can then dec the corp.
So for a start we have 24 hours waiting.
Only alliances who war dec can bypass the 24 hour voting period.
TBH there is a workaround to this also, a corp can vote weeks in advance for a war dec and then start the 24 hour war when ever they please. An example of this would be a corp who is asked to kill all hauling ships in a area they do there 24 hour vote then wait till they see a ship and then they war dec and retract it.
This is a blantently obvious exploit and should be fixed, a war should have to run for 24 hours before it is cancelled
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Norcuron
Caldari
Community for Justice
G.U.A.R.D.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:00:00 -
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One way to clear the question, if someone was in alliance an quit, so he now declares war and retracts it instantly, would be a "corp-alliance" history. Knowing if the corp was part of an alliance or not. Would at least answer one question
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