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Playne Jayne
Ghost Navigators
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Posted - 2016.09.14 20:54:05 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:
Another side note: I'm no Goon. Those black-balling (@)!)_!#s wouldn't take me.
I'd always thought that CODE. were either
a) made up of Goons themselves, bored of having-it-all in null, or
b) Goon-wannabes who had been scammed out of a billion or two trying to join them, so decided to form their own corp instead.
Thanks for confirming the latter
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2820
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:05:54 -
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Playne Jayne wrote:Bing Bangboom wrote:
Another side note: I'm no Goon. Those black-balling (@)!)_!#s wouldn't take me.
I'd always thought that CODE. were either a) made up of Goons themselves, bored of having-it-all in null, or b) Goon-wannabes who had been scammed out of a billion or two trying to join them, so decided to form their own corp instead. Thanks for confirming the latter There are people in Goonswarm who are part of the New Order, which is a movement that transcends even coalitions. CODE. for example is also part of the New Order, but a completely different entity as are many other corps and alliances. Some of our auto-piloting Freighter inspection crew often joins up with members of Goonswarm to bring justice to smugglers of illegal equipment.
Personally I had never something to do with Goonswarm. I do however respect them as a protected minority under the Code.
Also I would like to take a moment to thank our Goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
544
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:07:27 -
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Playne Jayne wrote:Bing Bangboom wrote:
Another side note: I'm no Goon. Those black-balling (@)!)_!#s wouldn't take me.
I'd always thought that CODE. were either a) made up of Goons themselves, bored of having-it-all in null, or b) Goon-wannabes who had been scammed out of a billion or two trying to join them, so decided to form their own corp instead. Thanks for confirming the latter
You overlook the possibility of CODE. members being what we actually are.
Former can-flippers, ninja salvagers, mission invaders, awoxers, highsec wardeccers and various other veterans of highsec pvp who have been forced by the constant changes to highsec safety into one large, organized and frankly a bit annoyed group dedicated to the one remaining form of emergent gameplay left to us. Namely, ganking.
James 315 gave us an organization, a mission and a Code. Because of the type of people we are, in game and in RL, it was all it took.
The miners demands for nerfs created us. And that's what you call ironic.
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
763
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:13:05 -
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Well. I try to keep an open mind, but if you come out and say stuff like "yeah, we're an organization of bored griefers relegated to doing the only thing left for us and we called it The Code", .......
that settles that then I suppose
You were doing great until you went overboard lad. Better luck next time. Good thing Drac admitted you couldn't be defeated- ...is it any wonder I'm insane?
ThIs CaNnoT bE HaPpENinG! **disbelief reality** |
Playne Jayne
Ghost Navigators
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:13:44 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote: There are people in Goonswarm who are part of the New Order, which is a movement that transcends even coalitions. CODE. for example is also part of the New Order, but a completely different entity as are many other corps and alliances. Some of our auto-piloting Freighter inspection crew often joins up with members of Goonswarm to bring justice to smugglers of illegal equipment.
Personally I had never something to do with Goonswarm. I do however respect them as a protected minority under the Code.
Also I would like to take a moment to thank our Goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.
Let's pretend for one moment I believe your cult, cough, corp's 'mantra'.
Firstly, I find it hard to believe that alliances with sov, based most of the time in null, give a damn what goes on in highsec, unless it's an opportunity to up their killboard
Secondly, as there is a production line that essentially supplies null, that at its lower eschelons employs miners, botting or otherwise, then this would also make no sense.
Thirdly, now that CCP are teetering on going into receivership, even the hardiest of HTFU devs is shitting bricks about losing their job, hence semi-F2P (about to go full F2P when the first 'model' fails, I'm guessing say March?) the ONLY consideration on CCP's minds is getting new players into the game - which means they have to not insta-quit.
So I'm guessing the New Order failed to save Hisec in the end. What a pity.
So tell me, what religion are you planning to create next? |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
763
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:20:02 -
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Playne Jayne wrote: So tell me, what religion are you planning to create next?
Why, Alpha Frog of course!
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
545
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:50:50 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Well. I try to keep an open mind, but if you come out and say stuff like "yeah, we're an organization of bored griefers relegated to doing the only thing left for us and we called it The Code", ....... that settles that then I suppose You were doing great until you went overboard lad. Better luck next time. Good thing Drac admitted you couldn't be defeated- ...is it any wonder I'm insane? ThIs CaNnoT bE HaPpENinG! **disbelief reality**
I suppose you can see it that way but its neither what I said or meant. We were players who loved what we were doing in Eve and it was taken away from us for reasons not justified by any vision of the game. So, we responded in-game and created an organization to fight against what we saw as ruining the game. By CCP's definition we never were and are not now "griefers" as we aren't banned, not most of us anyway and those that have been banned didn't break the actual EULA. They were banned for annoying influential members of the CSM.
Remember the point of this thread is whether or not people like me, are real life dangers to society. People who have suggested that we are have been rightly lampooned. Maybe I did explain too much and its beyond the average highsec miner's ability to understand the underlying issues. I always figured you for someone with more depth.
I've made the same point in other threads. Its not like its a deep dark secret where Agents come from.
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
765
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Posted - 2016.09.14 21:58:04 -
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LOOOOOL "we're clearly not griefers -- not all of us were banned"
You, Sir, have a way with words. |
Playne Jayne
Ghost Navigators
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Posted - 2016.09.14 22:03:39 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote: Because of the type of people we are, in game and in RL, it was all it took.
Your honor, I rest my case. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26829
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Posted - 2016.09.14 22:39:20 -
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Playne Jayne wrote:Let's pretend for one moment I believe your cult, cough, corp's 'mantra'.
Firstly, I find it hard to believe that alliances with sov, based most of the time in null, give a damn what goes on in highsec, unless it's an opportunity to up their killboard Of course they give a **** what happens in hisec, many nullsec corp members have hisec alts for trading, industry, logistics etc.
Quote:Secondly, as there is a production line that essentially supplies null, that at its lower eschelons employs miners, botting or otherwise, then this would also make no sense. It makes perfect sense to attack your enemies production capabilities and logistics pipeline in hisec Attacking the supply chain is an age old tactic of war.
Quote:Thirdly, now that CCP are teetering on going into receivership, even the hardiest of HTFU devs is shitting bricks about losing their job, hence semi-F2P (about to go full F2P when the first 'model' fails, I'm guessing say March?) the ONLY consideration on CCP's minds is getting new players into the game - which means they have to not insta-quit. Do you know something that the rest of us don't, or have you just pulled that out of your arse? Personally I'm going with the latter.
Civilised behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
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Railyn Quisqueya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.09.14 23:20:44 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:Because of the type of people we are, in game and in RL, it was all it took. From the horse's own mouth. OP's question has been answered. Thread can now be closed. |
radkid10
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2016.09.14 23:39:17 -
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I'm bipolar so I get pissed pretty easily but even then I don't throw a fit over losing something in this damn game seriously
if somebody attacked me and they lose their ship and they throw a fit about it call me an ******* I'll say I'm proud of it if I choose to attack them and I win and they call me an ******* for doing that I'll say I'm proud of it and if I lose then I'll say well played even if I lose something it took me 3 months to get |
Playne Jayne
Ghost Navigators
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Posted - 2016.09.14 23:43:59 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It makes perfect sense to attack your enemy's production capabilities and logistics pipeline in hisec Attacking the supply chain is an age old tactic of war.
Riiiight.
And that's why CODE. mainly goes after noob miners in ventures who are mining a box or two of veld....
...and not the heavily pew-protected uber mining fleets that the enemy are using.
Gotcha. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5247
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Posted - 2016.09.14 23:56:08 -
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Playne Jayne wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It makes perfect sense to attack your enemy's production capabilities and logistics pipeline in hisec Attacking the supply chain is an age old tactic of war. Riiiight. And that's why CODE. mainly goes after noob miners in ventures who are mining a box or two of veld.... ...and not the heavily pew-protected uber mining fleets that the enemy are using. Gotcha.
Those guys would be mining in NS. Also, they'd be importing some low ends as well...in which case they might be using freighters. And Goons and CODE. have typically had a good relationship.....
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
540
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Posted - 2016.09.15 00:02:53 -
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All these threads always turn into a CODE thread
@lunettelulu7
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2016.09.15 00:10:43 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:All these threads always turn into a CODE thread
They are the bottom feeders of Eve.
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Arahantius Detache
Arahantius Detache Corporation
30
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Posted - 2016.09.15 00:13:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote: For me, becomig the head of RvB shortly after the past command declare the formal cession of operations was a bit about duty. I was one of the highest in command left. I felt that I owed it to my fellow members and friends to keep RvB alive as best as could and grow back. Have we succeeded (with a lot of help from great people who also stepped up), but that isn't my point or relevant to the discussion. What is, is that for feelings outside of my own pleasure, I took on a role I did not want nor enjoy. And yet when compared to my real life, this is not necessarily who I am. Yet by many here and the logic they claim, I must be a leader. I must want this role. My actions in game mirror my real life persona.
The whole point was that you took on the leadership role because you felt it was your duty, not because you wanted to. So in game you didn't want to do it just as in real life you wouldn't want to do it.
I dare say you would take on a leadership role in real life if you felt dutybound to do so
So, as it stands, what is done in game is what someone would be capable of in RL. I am also a shy inhibited person who would never take on a leadership role in game expect when dutybound, but, guess what... it did happen to me in real life. Even though I hated it, I was an Executive Director for 2 years just because I felt dutybound to do it. I would never take such a role again unless compelled to do so again. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
540
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Posted - 2016.09.15 00:13:34 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:All these threads always turn into a CODE thread They are the bottom feeders of Eve.
@lunettelulu7
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
791
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Posted - 2016.09.15 00:16:51 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:All these threads always turn into a CODE thread They are the bottom feeders of Eve. I think there is a problem with your theory.
Otherwise every discussion/documentary about anything in the ocean would inevitably become entirely about the Sea Cucumbers...
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Careby
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Posted - 2016.09.15 00:20:19 -
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I don't pretend to know what's going on in the minds of EVE players (even my own.)
But if it's all really just role playing, then EVE has some very fine actors who need to catch the next plane to Hollywood.
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Arahantius Detache
Arahantius Detache Corporation
30
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Posted - 2016.09.15 01:06:24 -
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Serene Repose wrote:This topic smacks of "methinks he/she doth protest too much." It strikes at the heart of psychology, and is at the portal of aberrant psychology. It's something along the lines of, "Does that make me a bad person?"
I applaud you for your efforts to try to help others, self awareness is really a difficult subject to get others to understand. I wish I had your patience but I don't have the same belief that humans will rise past their current condition.
It is truly scary that most people are activiely unwilling to explore their own psychs and by extension the far reaching results of their actions. I feel sorry for those who have reached some level of self awareness knowing that those around them are still so absorbed with their surface thoughts. Knowing that those around me will defend their social veneer vehemently in order to avoid deeper understanding has disheartened me.
I don't believe the human race will survive the journey to knowing themselves and instead will cling to whatever comforts them until they destroy themselves. It's their instinct. But again, I applaud you
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Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite CODE.
95
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Posted - 2016.09.15 01:10:49 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:They are the bottom feeders of Eve.
I though it was those that hide behind forum alts....?
*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
889
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Posted - 2016.09.15 01:36:31 -
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i would rather call it Reputation and self-moral, otherwise not sure what makes a nice family dude do play all the illegal roles such as scam, gank, robber, thief etc. There always do's and don'ts you set up for yourself and in this game specifically.
"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
793
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Posted - 2016.09.15 01:53:29 -
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Caco De'mon wrote:oiukhp Muvila wrote:They are the bottom feeders of Eve. I though it was those that hide behind forum alts....? Oh Really?
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite CODE.
96
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Posted - 2016.09.15 04:07:43 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Caco De'mon wrote:oiukhp Muvila wrote:They are the bottom feeders of Eve. I though it was those that hide behind forum alts....? Oh Really?
I love you. Lets never fight again.
*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5247
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Posted - 2016.09.15 04:17:57 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:All these threads always turn into a CODE thread They are the bottom feeders of Eve.
Well, if you want to PvP in HS what are your options?
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2826
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Posted - 2016.09.15 04:47:17 -
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Playne Jayne wrote:And that's why CODE. mainly goes after noob miners in ventures who are mining a box or two of veld.... If you would actually bother to check if what you write you would have noticed that our Killboard features ~16k dead exhumers, ~31k mining barges, and only ~10k frigates, which as a class represent not only the Venture but all frigates in EVE.
Playne Jayne wrote:Thirdly, now that CCP are teetering on going into receivership, even the hardiest of HTFU devs is shitting bricks about losing their job, hence semi-F2P (about to go full F2P when the first 'model' fails, I'm guessing say March?) the ONLY consideration on CCP's minds is getting new players into the game - which means they have to not insta-quit. Their latest revenue reports show a completely different picture than what you try to draw here. They are implementing new ways to monetise EVE for a long time now. So can you please elaborate what this has to do with us and with the topic?
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Playne Jayne
Ghost Navigators
4
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Posted - 2016.09.15 07:34:05 -
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Caco De'mon wrote:oiukhp Muvila wrote:They are the bottom feeders of Eve. I though it was those that hide behind forum alts....?
Come over to Gelhan and say it to our faces then. We'll be in one of the belts, as per usual. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2380
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Posted - 2016.09.15 07:48:46 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Playne Jayne wrote:And that's why CODE. mainly goes after noob miners in ventures who are mining a box or two of veld.... If you would actually bother to check if what you write is actually true you would have noticed that our Killboard features ~16k dead exhumers, ~31k mining barges, and only ~10k frigates, which as a class represent not only the Venture but all frigates in EVE. Playne Jayne wrote:Thirdly, now that CCP are teetering on going into receivership, even the hardiest of HTFU devs is shitting bricks about losing their job, hence semi-F2P (about to go full F2P when the first 'model' fails, I'm guessing say March?) the ONLY consideration on CCP's minds is getting new players into the game - which means they have to not insta-quit. Their latest revenue reports show a completely different picture than what you try to draw here. They are implementing new ways to monetise EVE for a long time now. So can you please elaborate what this has to do with us and with the topic?
Just a few comments, when did the Venture come out again?
Also many new miners go into mining barges, such as Retreivers which are pretty high up on your list ganked ships.
In terms of Eve, the game itself is fairly solid, however while the player base is its biggest strength, it is also its biggest weakness. Eve has a reputation in the gaming world which is the truth, the new clones will just add more cannon fodder for people like you to get your cheap thrills out of on your perfect execution type PvP.
CCP has realised that having a game where only players like you play it is suicide, problem is that their new clone approach just creates some cannon fodder easy kills which will just highlight the issue even more. For me blowing up an alpha clone just devalues the kill, for you its normality.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
7873
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Posted - 2016.09.15 07:49:50 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:All these threads always turn into a CODE thread That's because they are desperate for relevance in a game that's phasing them out. The same thing is why if there's more than a couple of days with noone mentioning code they get one of their alts to create a thread asking about or complaining about code. The simple reality is that a group taking zero risks, hiding behind disposable ships on disposable alts targeting newbies in badly fit ships just won't be relevant in a competitive game, especially now that CCPs focus is shifting towards bringing in more players. Once they are completely phased out, the game will be better for it, but the forums will probably see a pretty long death wail.
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