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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.09.09 12:06:42 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Nobody thinks they are a hero, we are just doing what is heeded to get ahead in an environment without consequences.
If you can't handle it I'm sure Hello Kitty online spoonfeeds and protects you enough to your standards Jenn a'Snide was calling them heros, one of them goes out on missing people searches, and all of them were in the military or emergency services or something like that . It must be true Jenn a'Snide said it... LInk the post please. I've read two of her posts and while she listed some anecdotal evidence of what some of the "bad guys in EVE" did in RL I don't see claims that gankers are heroes. I know the search function is a bit limited, but a search for 'hero' doesn't turn up Jenn in any of the references related to this thread: https://puu.sh/r53Ki/7968cddbee.png So don't hold your breath waiting if that is the case. It would be a case of the usual, a claim made in error with nothing to support it. Still butt hurt from earlier I see As I said those people were doing it for their own needs and desires, you are just too stupid to realise it. The post where Jenn a'Snide talks about a ganker going out to search for missing people is in this thread, not my issue that you are unable to locate it mate.
Yes it is but what you seem to have missed is that shes talking about members of the community she's personally interacted with, not making a general claim about an entire group. Even if she had been the social dynamics of one specific group are functionally irrelevant to a discussion about general ethics.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1545
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Posted - 2016.09.09 12:12:06 -
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ITT: people who can't fight claim a moral victory.
...and all under the guise of a thread about roleplaying.
Makes me want to go shoot a spaceship, hard.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
15584
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Posted - 2016.09.09 12:39:35 -
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March rabbit wrote: Even if that post can be found i would not bet on it anyway. Jenn often post that: - he makes lots of ISK from incursion when people talks that incursion does not huge ISK - he gets nice loot when people talks about low rates of drop - he makes lots of ISK farming 0.0 sec when people asks for making better ISK in 0.0 - .... generally anything people talks about Jenn does better and faster.
I think its the "glass simultanously half empty, half full" thing.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14640
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Posted - 2016.09.09 12:47:16 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote: Yes it is but what you seem to have missed is that shes talking about members of the community she's personally interacted with, not making a general claim about an entire group. Even if she had been the social dynamics of one specific group are functionally irrelevant to a discussion about general ethics.
Well, at least most people who can read understand what was said.
I've pointed out that I've met other EVE players over the last 9 years, I've never said i met all EVE players. Of the people I've met, I've noticed that the so called bad guys tend (the word tend is important) to be really stand up guys and girls, many of whom are a part of the same profession I am, or who are ex military or healthcare workers or volunteers of some kind. Ironically enough I've also noticed that a few of the ganker/bumper types I personally know work in agriculture of some kind. LITERALLY FARMERS lol. I've also noted that many of the most vocal "I hate griefers/think of the new players' folks I've met tend (there is that word again) to actually not really give much of a **** about anyone but themselves IRL. There were exceptions on both sides, one the the actual nicest guys I met at EVE Vegas was a leaders among anti-ganker types (and I noticed that his in game activity had nothing to do with hating anyone, he's a geek that enjoys tough problem solving).
It's not hard to see this played out both in game and on this forum. The vocal anti ganker types are not nice or good people and it only takes one conversation with one such person to figure that out....
. Notice how one of them insists on childishly misspelling my screen name? Notice how they are the ones making the (usually futile) attempts to get CCP to nerf people that play in a way they don't like (rather than simply teaching people how to combat the tactics of people they don't like)? Notice how easy it is for the rest of us to see the selfishness and greed behind their "think of the newbros" facades?
It's the reason why I post in support of the so called bad guys even though I don't personally find what they do (ganking, scamming, awoxxing, bumping to be in any way personally interesting. My entire ganking career was three barges in high sec because my corp was doing it, it's not something I enjoy.
But point blank, those who do enjoy those things tend (in my experience) to be better company than the self righteous , juvenile liars of this games white knight/space sjw community.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2358
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Posted - 2016.09.09 13:15:26 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Yes it is but what you seem to have missed is that shes talking about members of the community she's personally interacted with, not making a general claim about an entire group. Even if she had been the social dynamics of one specific group are functionally irrelevant to a discussion about general ethics.
It was a general claim about gankers as compared to what it defined as white knights, it was rather silly, after all some people just don't need to chest beat about the good things that they do or have done, Jenn a'Snide seems to have missed that pretty obvious element, but that is about normal for that person.
EDIT: Oh look it realised it went too far and tried to come back from that, see the post above this one Who would have thought that
I call it Jenn a'Snide because I find it amusing and very appropriate.
Jenn you dipstick, how can I ask CCP to nerf people? Oh dear next thing we will see you telling everyone how good at PvE you are...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.09.09 14:46:03 -
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Giaus Felix wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's really pathetic to see persons that enjoy to annoy others complaining because the get insulted.
It's deserved and natural players think you are annoying persons even in real life. By your own metric, I take it that we can safely assume that you're a whinging windbag in real life?
You can think what you want, not a problem for me.
But if I gank someone ingame (knowing how long it takes to get back money/ships/travel back to the place and so on in this game) I think it's pretty obvious he would insult me.
It's reall stupid in my opinion to gank someone and think he will thank me, standing this favourable gain/loss advantage for gankers here.
Factional warfare/nullsec pvp is different, I'm pretty sure insults are much more rare there.....
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14641
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Posted - 2016.09.09 15:07:33 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:Giaus Felix wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's really pathetic to see persons that enjoy to annoy others complaining because the get insulted.
It's deserved and natural players think you are annoying persons even in real life. By your own metric, I take it that we can safely assume that you're a whinging windbag in real life? You can think what you want, not a problem for me. But if I gank someone ingame (knowing how long it takes to get back money/ships/travel back to the place and so on in this game) I think it's pretty obvious he would insult me. It's reall stupid in my opinion to gank someone and think he will thank me, standing this favourable gain/loss advantage for gankers here. Factional warfare/nullsec pvp is different, I'm pretty sure insults are much more rare there.....
Insults are much rarer (but not non existent) in those places because those places are populated by people who understand that they made a choice to play a game were loss is not only possible, but probable.
You inadvertently identified the actual core of the issue of this thread. High Security Space. The second most misleading name for a thing in this game, the only thing worse is the "Invulnerability Field" lol. Hi-sec lies to many (but not all) of it's players, it tells those players "you are safe here" while the underlying mechanics of the game says "you are safe NOWHERE except docked in an npc station". So lots of the people in high sec drink the Kool aid and believe it.
Then another group of people (being the kinds that {A} dislike the kinds of people who would seek safety in a video game and {B} love to see a-type people experience distress) come along and they use the true mechanics of the game to attack the Kool Aid drinkers. Hilarity (and literally millions of whiny words of EVE-O forum posts) ensues.
There are people who live in high sec who do understand the real deal, understand the mechanics and use them to protect themselves and their in game interests (thus "winning the game" in the form of preventing gankers, bumpers, awoxxers and war-dec types from gaining any enjoyment). You would not know it from the forums because people like that don't post, they are too busy actually playing EVE.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
734
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Posted - 2016.09.09 15:08:48 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:Giaus Felix wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's really pathetic to see persons that enjoy to annoy others complaining because the get insulted.
It's deserved and natural players think you are annoying persons even in real life. By your own metric, I take it that we can safely assume that you're a whinging windbag in real life? You can think what you want, not a problem for me. But if I gank someone ingame (knowing how long it takes to get back money/ships/travel back to the place and so on in this game) I think it's pretty obvious he would insult me. It's reall stupid in my opinion to gank someone and think he will thank me, standing this favourable gain/loss advantage for gankers here. Factional warfare/nullsec pvp is different, I'm pretty sure insults are much more rare there..... Insults are to be expected - and yes they are more common in high-sec where people have combat encounters thrust upon them against their will. I would agree with that - and if that was the full extent of it, it wouldn't be worth discussing tbh.
However, I refuse to accept that any gank, theft, scam, or even awox provides justification for the *type* of insults that some of them (and it is a surprisingly large number in my personal experience at least) choose to use. I do not wish to repeat them here - but the speed at which some people descend into flat-out RL racist hate-speech or even darker subjects truly is disturbing. Particularly the specifics and details that all too many "pacifists" in EVE are only too eager to provide...Indicating to me that they spend a large part of their time *consciously thinking* about these things - because they aren't the sort of thing one just makes up on the fly....
And no, I'm not talking about internet classics such as comparisons to Hitler/Nazi germany - nor simple RL death threats. Those are (sadly enough) sufficiently infused into internet culture in general that they just indicate people spend too much time trolling on the internet, I do not take those as a sign of someone being bad or mentally unstable. I'm talking about subjects that don't get discussed on the internet in general, because not even the regular internet trolls are that sick/****ed up.
Incidentally, only semi-related: Proof that people do find people with similar mind-sets to hang out with - back when I dabbled in some awoxing/corp theft as part of my quest to try *everything* in EVE - I did find that on average most corporations not only supported their member spewing such vile thoughts into the corp chat....Most of them actually joined in and actively participated.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
34
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Posted - 2016.09.09 15:17:24 -
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Honestly if I wanted to start farming officer mods I would kill high sec mission runners instead of belt ratting in npc null. Seems like less effort that way. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
2285
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Posted - 2016.09.09 15:21:45 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:Giaus Felix wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's really pathetic to see persons that enjoy to annoy others complaining because the get insulted.
It's deserved and natural players think you are annoying persons even in real life. By your own metric, I take it that we can safely assume that you're a whinging windbag in real life? You can think what you want, not a problem for me. But if I gank someone ingame (knowing how long it takes to get back money/ships/travel back to the place and so on in this game) I think it's pretty obvious he would insult me.
I generally don't expect people to be sore losers. Not adults, anyway.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
201
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Posted - 2016.09.09 15:38:33 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:You can think what you want, not a problem for me.
But if I gank someone ingame (knowing how long it takes to get back money/ships/travel back to the place and so on in this game) I think it's pretty obvious he would insult me. If someone ganks me they get a GF in local, because A: Eve is a game, and B: it's good sportsmanship to congratulate the victor in a game
Quote:It's reall stupid in my opinion to gank someone and think he will thank me, standing this favourable gain/loss advantage for gankers here. And therein lies your problem, you aren't a good sport, you're a sore loser.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite CODE.
91
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Posted - 2016.09.09 16:01:32 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's reall stupid in my opinion to gank someone and think he will thank me, standing this favourable gain/loss advantage for gankers here.
The other day our flight lost two Cats as we were speeding to a juicy Mack in a 0.5 belt. But as our scout was way ahead of us and failed to report HS gate campers, we fell right into their trap.
TBH we didn't say "GJ" or "GF" but we also didn't freak out and let the tears flow. Every encounter, regardless of the outcome, should be a learning experience. So in that sense, saying GF/TY/GJ or whatever is really just saying "thanks for teaching me something".
We got ganked/camped and we learnt something...yay....GF&TY!!!
*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2358
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Posted - 2016.09.09 16:46:03 -
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Zanar Skwigelf wrote:Honestly if I wanted to start farming officer mods I would kill high sec mission runners instead of belt ratting in npc null. Seems like less effort that way.
Try it and see how far you get, report back please if you manage to get a bite...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
7839
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Posted - 2016.09.09 16:55:30 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:That's utterly nonsensical, as 52 card pickup is not within the ruleset of poker, whereas the "objectionable behavior" you're attempting to analogize as such IS within the ruleset of Eve. No, but it is within the rulesets of "playing cards". EVE isn't a game with one ruleset, so it cannot be compared with a single game. EVE is a set of tools for playing in multiple ways, so I was comparing to the same. I'm not suggesting that playing by a different set of valid rules within EVE (ie ganking instead of mining) is wrong, I was simply pointing out one aspect of why someone that gets ganked might be frustrated while someone losing a game of monopoly might not.
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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
7840
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Posted - 2016.09.09 16:57:10 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Lol 'cause those mean ol' gankers just aren't playing fair, are they Lucas? lololololol
I'd like to thank the OP for these quality Lucas Kell tears. That's some pretty low standards you've got there if that meets your criteria for "tears".
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.09.09 16:58:29 -
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The problem and the reason why gankers collect most of the insults is very clear to me, and it's very clear the reason too.
You can easily study ganking mechanics from killboards and two things will be very clear to you:
1) It's cheap to gank, and you gain much while ganking
2) Most gankers use bots and it can be clearly seen in killboards, killing ganks are almost always the same, it's few players using several accounts at once, no doubt.
So if you combine how easy it is to gank together with how often it's a botting ganking, you cam imagine how unfair it seems to be ganked by the victims.
I would suggest them to avoid insulting but to report when ganking teams seem to be using bots to make the gank... |
Paranoid Loyd
9552
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:05:42 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:2) Most gankers use bots and it can be clearly seen in killboards, killing ganks are almost always the same, it's few players using several accounts at once, no doubt. This is certainly an accusation i've never seen before, how would this even work? I suppose you have some sort of proof? You do know it's very easy to control multiple accounts at once without using bots right?
"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix
Fix the Prospect!
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:12:42 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:2) Most gankers use bots and it can be clearly seen in killboards, killing ganks are almost always the same, it's few players using several accounts at once, no doubt. This is certainly an accusation i've never seen before, how would this even work? I suppose you have some sort of proof? You do know it's very easy to control multiple accounts at once without using bots right?
There are killboards with 10 or 15 accounts with identical names used at once...
even the 3/4 teams are almost always the same persons, quite strange they are always online at the same time for months and months...
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Paranoid Loyd
9552
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:17:57 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:2) Most gankers use bots and it can be clearly seen in killboards, killing ganks are almost always the same, it's few players using several accounts at once, no doubt. This is certainly an accusation i've never seen before, how would this even work? I suppose you have some sort of proof? You do know it's very easy to control multiple accounts at once without using bots right? There are killboards with 10 or 15 accounts with identical names used at once... even the 3/4 teams are almost always the same persons, quite strange they are always online at the same time for months and months... And if you had ever ganked you would know it does not require a bot to gank with that many accounts. You are stalking ignorant unsuspecting prey that most of the time are not even aware of your existence, in this case you have all the time in the world to operate those accounts. Please educate yourself before making idiotic accusations. If you feel someone is botting report them.
"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix
Fix the Prospect!
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DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2891
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:21:41 -
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Did not read this thread, but its very simple.
People who usually think you are exactly like you are irl as you are in eve are usually people who are that way.
So for example, someone who plays eve and is 'a good guy' who mines all day, makes some isk and plays, is that way irl. He/she make the connection, that if you decide to gank them, then because i play like i would be irl, that must mean your a killing ******* irl. None of this is true, its just a disconnect form the concept of both Roleplay, and what a game actually is.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:26:51 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:2) Most gankers use bots and it can be clearly seen in killboards, killing ganks are almost always the same, it's few players using several accounts at once, no doubt. This is certainly an accusation i've never seen before, how would this even work? I suppose you have some sort of proof? You do know it's very easy to control multiple accounts at once without using bots right? There are killboards with 10 or 15 accounts with identical names used at once... even the 3/4 teams are almost always the same persons, quite strange they are always online at the same time for months and months... And if you had ever ganked you would know it does not require a bot to gank with that many accounts. You are stalking ignorant unsuspecting prey that most of the time are not even aware of your existence, in this case you have all the time in the world to operate those accounts. Please educate yourself before making idiotic accusations. If you feel someone is botting report them.
I would still suggest the ganked subject to report, so the security team of CCP can see if the ganker is using ten accounts at the same time without botting.
You suggested the same so we perfectly agree |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5219
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:28:10 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Nobody thinks they are a hero, we are just doing what is heeded to get ahead in an environment without consequences.
If you can't handle it I'm sure Hello Kitty online spoonfeeds and protects you enough to your standards Jenn a'Snide was calling them heros, one of them goes out on missing people searches, and all of them were in the military or emergency services or something like that . It must be true Jenn a'Snide said it... LInk the post please. I've read two of her posts and while she listed some anecdotal evidence of what some of the "bad guys in EVE" did in RL I don't see claims that gankers are heroes. Its is in this thread... And I am seeing some of you gankers apply this comparisons to RL in terms of AG players which you refuse for yourself, please be consistent otherwise people will take you for hypocrites.
Okay, I don't see it. I saw 2 posts by Jenn and in neither I saw her saying something like gankers or scammers being heroes for being gankers or scammers. So...I'll assume, as usual, you got nothing.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Paranoid Loyd
9553
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:29:02 -
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Wat?
You said everyone, we both know you are referring to one guy. If you don't think plenty of people have already reported him you are kidding yourself. What he is doing is perfectly fine.
"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix
Fix the Prospect!
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5219
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:29:39 -
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Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's really pathetic to see persons that enjoy to annoy others complaining because the get insulted.
It's deserved and natural players think you are annoying persons even in real life.
Well in that case, IRL I think you are an *******.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Rin Vocaloid2
DUST University Ivy League
26
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:44:43 -
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I would most likely brush them off and say "if you live in a Mad Max: Fury Road environment do you expect everyone to be nice to you?"
If anyone answers "yes" to that question, they don't belong in this game.
I do agree with Eternus8lux8lucis in that Eve Online allows us to see how we really are if societal laws in the real world didn't exist today. I have always wondered how it felt like to be the other end of a suicide gank so I stopped being a miner for a few days during the last-known Hulkageddon event and became a suicide ganker. I started to realize that even without societal restrictions in the real world I would most likely still have higher standards of my own. For example, I was mainly targeting mining ships that I suspect are botters at the time. Sometimes after ganking a miner I would give them quick advice on how to tank up their ships or stay alert. A sudden spike in Local in the middle of Hulkageddon should have been a red flag for these people. Those who were alert fly away to safety or were sufficiently tanked while the rest who were AFK at that moment would come back to their computers to see a smoldering wreck of what use to be their mining barge.
So I saw this is a means of getting miners to toughen up a bit so that only a smart and active miners can thrive while the botters and other AFK miners dwindle in numbers. Hulkageddon was a double-edged sword for me at least. On the one hand I was being the bad capsuleer attacking ships that aren't meant to fight back against PvPers. On the other hand I was actively hunting down bots who are known for hurting the bottom line for honest miners while teaching others to stop being so complacent about high-sec safety.
So perhaps deep down inside I would still maintain some morals even if the real-world society I live in were to remove all laws tomorrow. I just have to expect that the next person will not likely do the same.
PS: But let's face it, real-world societies would never get rid of law and order tomorrow. Humans, by their very nature, crave for law and order. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5219
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:44:51 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:2) Most gankers use bots and it can be clearly seen in killboards, killing ganks are almost always the same, it's few players using several accounts at once, no doubt. This is certainly an accusation i've never seen before, how would this even work? I suppose you have some sort of proof? You do know it's very easy to control multiple accounts at once without using bots right?
No, there is no proof, it is just made up horse****.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:44:55 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Lucy Lollipops wrote:It's really pathetic to see persons that enjoy to annoy others complaining because the get insulted.
It's deserved and natural players think you are annoying persons even in real life. Well in that case, IRL I think you are an *******.
I could take it as a compliment if it comese from you |
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:46:10 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Wat?
You said everyone, we both know you are referring to one guy. If you don't think plenty of people have already reported him you are kidding yourself. What he is doing is perfectly fine.
I'm not referring to anyone specificly actually, but if someone is not botting he has nothing to fear from a report I suppose...
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
2289
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:52:19 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:That's utterly nonsensical, as 52 card pickup is not within the ruleset of poker, whereas the "objectionable behavior" you're attempting to analogize as such IS within the ruleset of Eve. No, but it is within the rulesets of "playing cards".
But you didn't suggest they were playing "Anything that can be played with playing cards," you specifically named poker, thereby constraining the rules to those of poker.
There is absolutely no analog for this in Eve. You cannot just log in and decide that you're only playing "Spaceminers" and that everyone playing with you is also playing "Spaceminers" and is thereby constrained to the rules of "Spaceminers".
Quote:EVE isn't a game with one ruleset, so it cannot be compared with a single game.
Uh, that's completely false. Eve has one set of rules - it just happens to be a long set.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5219
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Posted - 2016.09.09 18:01:00 -
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Rin Vocaloid2 wrote:I do agree with Eternus8lux8lucis in that Eve Online allows us to see how we really are if societal laws in the real world didn't exist today.
Careful, there are examples where there is no "law" like we have today, but yet things were not Mad Max: Fury Road.
Ironically, one such place was...Iceland.
And we see this in game. Players come together and work cooperatively and do not run around shooting anything and everything. NS corporations, alliances and coalitions are examples of this. There is no "Law" like we have now in the game, it is private law--i.e. it is a set of social norms--do not shoot fellow corp mates. Do not shoot alliance mates. Do not shoot members of your coalition. To the extent that it does happen there are even avenues to resolve these problems.
This is an example of spontaneous order.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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