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Oliver Delorean
Undiscovered Dimension
51
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Posted - 2016.09.18 06:58:20 -
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Killboards need to go!
Why? It seriously hurts the game! People don't look for interesting fights anymore... 95% of the pvp is based on the "green killboard" Hold the pod!! What type of sh++t is this?
Seriously! Get rid of all that: Look at my green killboard mentality and the game will be a lot better once again. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1017
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:06:47 -
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Interpretation:
No one pvp's the way I want them to and they don't let me win.
Take your whinge elsewhere, many people like killboards and like the epeen factor they provide. So unless you can post data that shows that killboards 'seriously hurts the game', then your opinion has no more validity than someone who claims killboards are great.
As for hold the pod: that's time for you to unplug implants. Only give them a 10K pod.
Edit: and lol complaining about others not taking risks. 2700 kills to 420 losses. That's a good sign of being conservative.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18065
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:13:11 -
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The cowards who avoid PvP now are the same cowards that avoided PvP before killmails existed. |
Oliver Delorean
Undiscovered Dimension
51
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:14:15 -
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Won't let me win? WTF are you talking about? I don't care about winning! I want to fight!
Unplug the implants? What? Why? I loose em anyway... I'm not whining, I posted here so I can argue with your type! Keep coming! Explain me why else the keyboard is so important to you. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1017
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:16:06 -
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Oliver Delorean wrote: Won't let me win? WTF are you talking about? I don't care about winning! I want to fight! Unplug the implants? What? Why? I loose em anyway... I'm not whining, I posted here so I can argue with your type! Keep coming! Explain me why else the keyboard is so important to you. Well you certainly seem to care about not losing.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2885
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:21:20 -
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Record of accomplishments and failures? The history of New Eden? Every game has a highscore list. Also I think the game would be long dead without it (btw, people would have found a way to create those even without API as long as killmails exists).
I'm my own NPC alt.
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General Guardian
The Guardian Knights AXIOS.
132
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:28:34 -
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A killboard is like a record of good memories. One players killboard can tell an entire story. Countless times my corp has had moments where we post some of our most idiotic losses or funniest kills in chat and told the story and had a good laugh.
It's not just about epeen, but it's a history of your eve career. Where you were and what you did since you began.
I definitely wouldn't play eve without the killboard. |
Oliver Delorean
Undiscovered Dimension
51
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:31:43 -
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Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held. It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.
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Vincent Pelletier
Pelletier Imports and Exports
38
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:34:21 -
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We had killboards long before the api so that right there is not a solution in and of itself, if there even needs to be a solution. I will agree that killboards might/will keep people from "just having a fight" then again so does ship cost and bragging rights amongst your corp/fiends so I don't really see how it would be magically solved by removing the KB.
Then... I look at your killboard and i see you use the Svipul a lot while you're preaching about "why do people love their green killboard so much", so there's that.
And how is being podded somehow a bad thing and caused by these magical killboards. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18067
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:35:59 -
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Oliver Delorean wrote:Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held. It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.
I come from a time without any KB, people would pull off an impressive dunk but because there was no record of it all that happened was thread after thread of **** flinging as people denied fights even happened.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2885
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:38:30 -
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Oliver Delorean wrote:Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard.
This is an unrelated insinuation ... do you even read the answers?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Vincent Pelletier
Pelletier Imports and Exports
38
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:41:29 -
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baltec1 wrote:Oliver Delorean wrote:Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held. It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.
I come from a time without any KB, people would pull off an impressive dunk but because there was no record of it all that happened was thread after thread of **** flinging as people denied fights even happened.
KB existed in 2006. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18067
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:43:48 -
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Vincent Pelletier wrote:baltec1 wrote:Oliver Delorean wrote:Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held. It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.
I come from a time without any KB, people would pull off an impressive dunk but because there was no record of it all that happened was thread after thread of **** flinging as people denied fights even happened. KB existed in 2006.
This is not my first baltec.
Also, KB before API were rather easy to fake. |
Vincent Pelletier
Pelletier Imports and Exports
38
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Posted - 2016.09.18 07:47:45 -
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baltec1 wrote:Vincent Pelletier wrote:baltec1 wrote:Oliver Delorean wrote:Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held. It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.
I come from a time without any KB, people would pull off an impressive dunk but because there was no record of it all that happened was thread after thread of **** flinging as people denied fights even happened. KB existed in 2006. This is not my first baltec. Also, KB before API were rather easy to fake.
Yeah we didn't have kb in 2004 :) |
Oliver Delorean
Undiscovered Dimension
51
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Posted - 2016.09.18 08:41:03 -
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Vincent Pelletier wrote:We had killboards long before the api so that right there is not a solution in and of itself, if there even needs to be a solution. I will agree that killboards might/will keep people from "just having a fight" then again so does ship cost and bragging rights amongst your corp/fiends so I don't really see how it would be magically solved by removing the KB.
Then... I look at your killboard and i see you use the Svipul a lot while you're preaching about "why do people love their green killboard so much", so there's that.
And how is being podded somehow a bad thing and caused by these magical killboards.
Being podded is not caused by killboard - u get it all wrong. "Hold the pod" so everyone can whore on the killmail is.
Eve mentality is: f the fight! Let's get those killmails! This is also caused by the killboards. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18068
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Posted - 2016.09.18 08:44:33 -
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Oliver Delorean wrote:Vincent Pelletier wrote:We had killboards long before the api so that right there is not a solution in and of itself, if there even needs to be a solution. I will agree that killboards might/will keep people from "just having a fight" then again so does ship cost and bragging rights amongst your corp/fiends so I don't really see how it would be magically solved by removing the KB.
Then... I look at your killboard and i see you use the Svipul a lot while you're preaching about "why do people love their green killboard so much", so there's that.
And how is being podded somehow a bad thing and caused by these magical killboards. Being podded is not caused by killboard - u get it all wrong. "Hold the pod" so everyone can whore on the killmail is. Eve mentality is: f the fight! Let's get those killmails! This is also caused by the killboards.
9 times out of 10 someone pops the pod anyway. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2837
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Posted - 2016.09.18 09:20:14 -
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Keeping score is part of every game. Think about it.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1868
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Posted - 2016.09.18 09:33:11 -
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baltec1 wrote:The cowards who avoid PvP now are the same cowards that avoided PvP before killmails existed.
^^
Pretty much this....wouldn't change anything.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Xert Trassien
Sisterhood of Wig Wearers
33
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Posted - 2016.09.18 09:42:11 -
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Having played ALOT of games over the years the 1 thing i notice is a killboard of some sort with pretty much every game. They may not be called killboards but they show stats of kills losses etc. Hell even racing games have stats showing how many wins losses etc. Maybe just maybe you need to learn how to play card games on your computer ?? Oh wait they have stats on win/loss ratio to :)
And yes my killboard sucks but is just a gank alt anyways... |
Trader20
Hedion University Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2016.09.18 09:45:31 -
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The only reason I undock is to killmail snipe, so no? |
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Geronimo McVain
The Scope Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2016.09.18 09:58:11 -
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The question should be more: Does the killboard API have to be so explicit?
Do you REALLY need to know the fitting? Do you REALLY need the cargo? Do you REALLY need the name of the looser, in the killboard api that is, if you did it, you know him.
Take a look at all these killmail-shame-threads on reddit. "Look at this looser he": had the wrong modules too much cargo shouldn't die in this ship shouldn't have been there been afk etc.
time, Ship, system, Corp and the name of the winner, not the looser, should be enough.
If you want to talk about your losses you can always post your own killmail.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1570
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Posted - 2016.09.18 10:28:45 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:... Take a look at all these killmail-shame-threads on reddit. "Look at this looser he": had the wrong modules too much cargo shouldn't die in this ship shouldn't have been there
Many, many people use the internet to appease their egotistical need to point out where someone else is wrong. For a brief crystal shining moment the angst of the human condition is all heaped upon another as spectacle. Human sacrifice, bullfighting, combat bloodsports and the Eucharist all serve the same need. This is not what killboards are for though and those threads are garbage. I use killboard as an album of happy memories and as intel. Leave em alone.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1678
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Posted - 2016.09.18 10:35:21 -
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Come join Goonies. We don't care about killboards. We don't even HAVE a killboard
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18073
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Posted - 2016.09.18 10:55:38 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Come join Goonies. We don't care about killboards. We don't even HAVE a killboard
Back in my day the goon KB was the single most hated thing in the swarm. |
The R00k
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.09.18 11:08:46 -
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well i don't agree i think kill mails should be delayed by 24 hours and not show involved parties besides who dealt the final blow.
Why??? because I fly with 3 killboards ready to check potential targets for how they fight.
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Major Xadi
Mercenary Logistics Ltd.
64
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Posted - 2016.09.18 11:22:49 -
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baltec1 wrote:The cowards who avoid PvP now are the same cowards that avoided PvP before killmails existed.
Aw, c'mon now. Surely CCP has retained the subscriptions of some new cowards by now.
But kinda on topic, I'd like to see the losses to pve removed. For instance, my losses to burners show up, and I'm thinking the KB should only record action between players. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18074
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Posted - 2016.09.18 11:38:27 -
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Major Xadi wrote:baltec1 wrote:The cowards who avoid PvP now are the same cowards that avoided PvP before killmails existed. Aw, c'mon now. Surely CCP has retained the subscriptions of some new cowards by now. But kinda on topic, I'd like to see the losses to pve removed. For instance, my losses to burners show up, and I'm thinking the KB should only record action between players.
It didn't record that Red Alliance nyx loss to anom rats |
Oliver Delorean
Undiscovered Dimension
54
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Posted - 2016.09.18 12:46:29 -
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Iv been to goons, providence, spectre-fleet, mordus angels, now doing solo yolo, not belonging to any bigger group.... Iv played the game for 5-6 years now and all that time doing PvP. What I see is that people don't want to have fights that involve risk. Holding the kill till everyone is on the killmail, hold the pod - its everywhere! Why is that? Don't tell me its not cuz of people want to have that green line on the killboard.
Main issue is: People don't want to have that red line and this holds back many interesting engagements. Do you agree?
I think for CCP it would be smarter to find out the way where people find out the risk in the game itself, not letting people to use out of game tools (killboard) to find out the risk of the engagement. |
Cara Forelli
Better Off Red
2070
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Posted - 2016.09.18 15:09:47 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Do you REALLY need to know the fitting? Do you REALLY need the cargo? Do you REALLY need the name of the looser, in the killboard api that is, if you did it, you know him.
Take a look at all these killmail-shame-threads on reddit. "Look at this looser he": had the wrong modules too much cargo shouldn't die in this ship shouldn't have been there been afk etc.
Don't be a loser then.
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Titan's Lament
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2885
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Posted - 2016.09.18 15:25:59 -
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Oliver Delorean wrote:
Main issue is: People don't want to have that red line and this holds back many interesting engagements. Do you agree?
I think for CCP it would be smarter to find out the way where people find out the risk in the game itself, not letting people to use out of game tools (killboard) to find out the risk of the engagement.
Do you really believe people are willing to lose a fight and feed you with easy kills just because there is no public record of their dump move?
On a personal note, I will always engage if I see a realistic chance of winning the fight, let's say 70%. Otherwise if I know I will lose, I will not engage, would be stupid otherwise.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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