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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:35:47 -
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Hey folks. We've got a bug fix coming in October that I think is especially important to draw your attention to ahead of time.
At the moment Rorquals can dock in Astrahus medium citadels, which is a bug. They actually even use the frigate undock port.
The intended design is that Rorquals should have the same docking access as normal sized capital ships like the carrier, dread and force aux classes. We're fixing this bug in the main October release which means that Rorquals will no longer be able to dock in Astrahus citadels.
Even though this is a fairly simple bug fix, I wanted to create a sticky thread just to make sure that there was some visibility for it ahead of the normal patch notes. I'd like to avoid people getting surprised by this fix as much as possible.
We're working on the dev blog for the big Rorqual changes coming in November, and that will be ready for everyone soon. Thanks!
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Yroc Jannseen
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:52:01 -
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As the honorable representative from the great organization of GSOL, we are completely opposed to this change with every ounce of our being.
Save the Whales. |
Querns
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2493
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:52:38 -
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I assume Freighters and Jump Freighters will still enjoy the ability to dock in an Astrahus?
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Viserion Pavarius
Hogyoku Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:53:01 -
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Hey guys,
I have the aresome idea of making a already soon to be useless ship even more useless!
inb4 ISD snipe |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3006
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:53:04 -
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Freighters?
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Whale Sex
Patriotic Tendencies Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:53:32 -
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Please Save ME!! |
Mierin Arthie
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:55:22 -
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Any reason behind the decision to not allow Rorquals to dock in Astrahus when Freighters and Jump Freighters can? |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14453
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:55:26 -
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Freighter and JF docking access remains unchanged, they have always been intended to be dockable in Astrahus citadels.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Denngarr B'tarn
Cripple Creek Serrice Council.
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:57:39 -
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Jump Freighters, Freighters, Orcas... what about these? |
Querns
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2493
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:57:52 -
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Considering the rorqual's primary ability to haul ore, not to mention its (assumed) direct mining role coming with the rebalance, denying the rorqual the ability to dock in an Astrahus is, frankly, absurd.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Jay Amazingness
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:58:09 -
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thank you for fixing this game breaking bug
Jay "I'm gay" Amazingness
Headshotting FCs since day one.
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Kelmantis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:58:09 -
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I guess you only noticed this now, rather than it being a design decision that has been reversed? |
Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:58:12 -
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Mierin Arthie wrote:Any reason behind the decision to not allow Rorquals to dock in Astrahus when Freighters and Jump Freighters can?
Because one of those is not like the other two, duh? |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3006
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:01:49 -
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Awkward Pi Duolus wrote:Mierin Arthie wrote:Any reason behind the decision to not allow Rorquals to dock in Astrahus when Freighters and Jump Freighters can? Because one of those is not like the other two, duh? Uh, all three are capital ships.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2255
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:02:15 -
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Denngarr B'tarn wrote:Jump Freighters, Freighters, Orcas... what about these?
Orcas are Large hulls, not XLGÇöthey're battleship-sizedGÇöso it's highly unlikely they'll make them unable to dock where every other subcap can.
That said, this really is a silly change. It may have been a bug, but it's a bug that made sense. Industrial ships aren't as survivable as combat ships. Why not give them a break? |
GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:02:52 -
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Do you guys actively sit around thinking about ways to get less people out into space? |
Traumatica
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:03:17 -
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You really can't help yourself, can you Fozzie? |
Yroc Jannseen
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
158
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:04:16 -
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Querns wrote:Considering the rorqual's primary ability to haul ore, not to mention its (assumed) direct mining role coming with the rebalance, denying the rorqual the ability to dock in an Astrahus is, frankly, absurd.
I guess the follow on to this is, will the Rorqual be able to dock at medium sized Mining Platforms, which presumably will be bonused for refining?
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Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3006
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:05:04 -
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Perhaps leave them alone until you release the Mining Platform.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Mapster Tacitus
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:05:34 -
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Call this Bug a Feature and everything is fine.
#SaveTheWhales |
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
392
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:05:39 -
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It has been in the game for 4 months, no reason to fix it now, might as well leave it as is and call it a feature..... |
Kyras Delani
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:05:58 -
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So was this actually discussed with concerned industrialists either at the CSM summit / weekly meets or the structure tweetfleet slack? or did you just throw darts at a dartboard labeled "ironic Rorqual buffs" |
Philip Shazih
Echelon Research The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:06:04 -
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The supposed to be end all be all mining ship (that will become a lot less usefull soon) cant dock in the station thats supposed to excel in refining... makes sense to you? |
Sonic Sparrow
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:06:31 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Freighter and JF docking access remains unchanged, they have always been intended to be dockable in Astrahus citadels.
Why does moving ore from a rorqual to a freighter to get it refined make any sense when it comes to game design? Astrahus refining is encouraged via gameplay mechanics. This removes a big benefit of owning a rorqual. Rorqual is to Freighter like Miasmos is to Iteron V.
Treat your capitals like you treat your subcaps and you get a clear line of gameplay progression.
Actually if I was one to Tinfoil it sounds like Industrial Arrays will be able to refine ore..... |
Nymblar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:08:17 -
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What is the motivation behind this - I don't buy this being a bug, this feels like a conscious design decision that you're passing off as a "bug".
Jump Freighters are bigger than Rorquals and yet they can still dock. |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3006
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:09:25 -
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Sonic Sparrow wrote:Actually if I was one to Tinfoil it sounds like Industrial Arrays will be able to refine ore..... Yes. The only way this makes any sense is if the new structures to be released at the same time have overlapping functionality.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Tiberizzle
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
129
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:13:41 -
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this is completely unnecessary and has not demonstrated itself to be a problem in the several months the rorqual has had this capability
with the majority of nullsec / lowsec T2 refineries in the game being astrahuses at this point, this will be disruptive
further it will discourage much desired "in the belt" rorqual usage by complicating in belt compression with the need for additional citadels, industrial ships and characters
please learn to recognize your limits and paint within the lines fozzie, industry is most assuredly not your wheelhouse |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3007
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:16:00 -
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It really feels like it is too late to go back on this. Everybody has established their mining operations around the Astrahus and this is quite disruptive, especially considering rigs if we now have to move to Fortizars.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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ckinoutdahoe
Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:22:09 -
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HI Everyone,
Ok CCP I do understand that it is a mistake that you never intended for the Rorq not to dock at the medium sized citidel .
Personally I dont care as it will not affect me in the least nor will it affect those who can well afford a fortizar or dozens of them.
But and and a long pause; you may wish to reconsider as it will affect the player base that YOU most wanted to go to null space in the first place.
Consider a newish corp that does not have 100b to spend on a fortizar how are they going to dock the Rorq at all once all the stations go bye bye..with exception of the npc stations in null.
I dont see the clarity of thought in doing this!!!
Does anyone else???
It is going to be a large change which may park many Rorq's as it is after the November change if they dont get reprocessed for something more useful.
While I have your undivided attention maybe clarify in a different post in detail about the pos changes as it is only a month and change away. As I can foresee a **** storm a brewing to **** off so many of your old member base a great deal. |
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
164
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:23:43 -
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Yet another unsurprising move from a CCP that is increasingly hostile to the player base.
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