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Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.29 17:07:48 -
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So i know that Agents based in lower security space give higher loyalty points for missions, but does the security status of the system the agent is in affect the difficulty of the missions, as well as the isk reward?
reason i ask is i recently moved away from Osmon(lv 4 Sisters of EVE) to a lv 4 Caldari Navy Agent in 0.9 sec space (want to raise caldari faction standings)
and i noticed the lv 4 missions i was running for them had more frigates and cruisers, and alot fewer battleships(all of whom's bounty seemed lower than what i'm used to from sisters)
not to mention, alot fewer ship and alot shorter missions
Is this because the lv 4 agent is in 0.9 space or is it because Caldari Navy missions are easier than sister of EVE.
or am i overthinking all of this and i just haven't gotten one of the harder missions yet? (i've only run 6 so far) |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.29 17:16:49 -
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Some missions are just harder than others. It's everything to do with which mission it is you were running
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Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.29 17:19:14 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Some missions are just harder than others. It's everything to do with which mission it is you were running
k thanks =)
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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
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Posted - 2016.09.29 18:55:27 -
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If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas. |
Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.29 19:00:48 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas. can you explain how i start the epic arc ( i know u need like 5.0 standings) |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.29 19:03:19 -
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Lasisha Mishi wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas. can you explain how i start the epic arc ( i know u need like 5.0 standings) with the corp the starting agent belongs to in this case standing of 5.0 or higher with Expert Distribution or the Caldari Faction.
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Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.29 19:11:11 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Lasisha Mishi wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas. can you explain how i start the epic arc ( i know u need like 5.0 standings) with the corp the starting agent belongs to in this case standing of 5.0 or higher with Expert Distribution or the Caldari Faction. once you have this go to Agent: Aursa Kunivuri Location: Nugoeihuvi Information Centre (Beacon) Josameto (System) do yourself a favour and know what you are flying into http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=Penumbra4p1 <-----bookmark this and reference before flying into it, some of those missions will eat a lvl 4 mission boat very easily if you get complacent. ty! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18361
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Posted - 2016.09.29 19:19:37 -
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no worries, the amarr one is good too, the whole arc will take a couple of days - a week to get through depending on what your game time / training is like.
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
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Posted - 2016.09.29 19:22:16 -
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Lasisha Mishi wrote:So i know that Agents based in lower security space give higher loyalty points for missions, but does the security status of the system the agent is in affect the difficulty of the missions, as well as the isk reward?
reason i ask is i recently moved away from Osmon(lv 4 Sisters of EVE) to a lv 4 Caldari Navy Agent in 0.9 sec space (want to raise caldari faction standings)
and i noticed the lv 4 missions i was running for them had more frigates and cruisers, and alot fewer battleships(all of whom's bounty seemed lower than what i'm used to from sisters)
not to mention, alot fewer ship and alot shorter missions
Is this because the lv 4 agent is in 0.9 space or is it because Caldari Navy missions are easier than sister of EVE.
or am i overthinking all of this and i just haven't gotten one of the harder missions yet? (i've only run 6 so far) A way of increasing LP, standings, and reward is to train skills like negotiations, and security connections, diplomatic skills when your security status falls with one of the major factions, etc. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.09.29 22:00:50 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:no worries, the amarr one is good too, the whole arc will take a couple of days - a week to get through depending on what your game time / training is like.
This is more for the OP and others as I'm sure Ralph is already aware, but bring a Data Analyzer (T2 recommended) with you, one of the missions in the Amarr Arc requires it. In fact, it would be wise to read up on the survival guide for what ever Arc you intend to run if you decide to just to make sure you bring what you need.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1021
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Posted - 2016.09.30 02:20:03 -
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When CCP changed the agent quality from the -20 to +20 scheme all agents became +20 to the eye but the OLD LP schemes and payouts still all stand. This will greatly affect payouts and LP rates still. And afaik the lower sec was a part of it as well but not ALL the best old agents were in lower sec space. Trying to find that data these days is harder though.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4684
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Posted - 2016.09.30 02:38:40 -
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I did the Minmatar epic arc 'Wildfire' series of missions, and really had a great time doing it. To even get to it, I had to get Brutor Tribe standings pretty high. So it turned out that the best way to do that was to relocate my stuff to [no spoiler, sussing things out required] system, and ramp up my game. That itself was very fun-- goal in sight, daily struggles, victories, planning to reach it. Then after I got into the Wildfire arc, it was just lot of challenge and fun. I didn't do the grunt work of getting things in place, all over the map, to salvage everything. So I was disappointed about the ISK payout at the end, as estimated by my more senior corpie. But it was hella fun, and I learned a lot about ships, mods, range, etc. really.
Each faction has it's own arc, of course. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Missions#Epic_Arc_Missions
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Vincent Pelletier
Pelletier Imports and Exports
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Posted - 2016.09.30 03:29:48 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: When CCP changed the agent quality from the -20 to +20 scheme all agents became +20 to the eye but the OLD LP schemes and payouts still all stand. This will greatly affect payouts and LP rates still. And afaik the lower sec was a part of it as well but not ALL the best old agents were in lower sec space. Trying to find that data these days is harder though.
System sec the agent is in affects the LP and isk rewards you get from missions, it does not affect standing. You get some 7-10% reward change per 0.1 sec.
See my reply here for extra info on that. |
Francis Raven
ExDominion Evictus.
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Posted - 2016.09.30 15:32:44 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas.
****, right!
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Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.30 15:40:29 -
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Francis Raven wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas. ****, right! thankfully i have a cure to that
auto target missiles. sounds like i should bring more than 1 load of them
well i gotta raise my caldari standings from 0.1 to 5.0 =/ so guess i should start |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2950
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Posted - 2016.09.30 15:45:32 -
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The best way to raise faction standing: - blitz lvl3 combat missions - run the sisters epic arc every 3 months - run the lvl4 epic arc every 3 months
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18378
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Posted - 2016.09.30 15:51:50 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:The best way to raise faction standing: - blitz lvl3 combat missions
bingo, find a system with several of them for the same corp, bonus points if the closest story line agent is for the corresponding faction too
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Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.30 17:05:20 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:The best way to raise faction standing: - blitz lvl3 combat missions
bingo, find a system with several of them for the same corp, bonus points if the closest story line agent is for the corresponding faction too
so by blitz you mean do the bare minimum to finish the mission asap.
why lv 3 in that case? is it the most time efficient?
also, for isk income(bounty, loot, and reward). is this affected by security state of the system the agent is in? like if i have a lv 3 agent in 0.9 an a lv 3 agent in 0.7, would the agent in 0.7's missions have higher bounty enemies, better loot. etc?
also i can only do epic arcs once every 3 months?
where do i find COSMOS missions. what standings do i need aren't they one time only missions?
will cosmos missions affect my minmatar standings?
also bit offtopic..but if i happen to have -5 gallente standings, can any player attack me in gallente space? or just the gallente npcs. can i still dock in gallente space?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.30 17:25:47 -
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Lasisha Mishi wrote:
so by blitz you mean do the bare minimum to finish the mission asap.
why lv 3 in that case? is it the most time efficient?
exactly yes
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
also bit offtopic..but if i happen to have -5 gallente standings, can any player attack me in gallente space? or just the gallente npcs. can i still dock in gallente space?
im skipping the cosmos bit as i know as little about them as you do. someone will hit that up for you though
The gallente faction police will attack you but it will have no effect on player aggression rights at all. yes you will be able to use gallente stations
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Lasisha Mishi
Caldari Strike Witches
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Posted - 2016.09.30 17:29:31 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Lasisha Mishi wrote:
so by blitz you mean do the bare minimum to finish the mission asap.
why lv 3 in that case? is it the most time efficient?
exactly yes Lasisha Mishi wrote:
also bit offtopic..but if i happen to have -5 gallente standings, can any player attack me in gallente space? or just the gallente npcs. can i still dock in gallente space?
im skipping the cosmos bit as i know as little about them as you do. someone will hit that up for you though The gallente faction police will attack you but it will have no effect on player aggression rights at all. yes you will be able to use gallente stations ok, then screw gallente standings. goin all in for caldari =D
(been terrified as my standings with gallente dropped to -4.7 recenty. thought players would be able to kill me when i travel through) |
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Sylacx
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:17:19 -
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This is a good guide for caldari COSMOS missions:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/16401872/Cosmos-Missions-101 |
Onictus
The Scope Gallente Federation
948
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Posted - 2016.10.01 07:14:42 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:If you wish to raise caldari faction consider running the epic arc or doing the caldari COSMOS missions.
Both of which are more interesting , take less time, and give more standings increase than grinding L4s.
As a bonus you'll be less likely to want to cut your wrists after spending 2 hours of every day waiting for the jamming icon to disappear so you can re-lock vs guristas.
I don't gurista without a marauder for a reason. |
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