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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.30 15:33:40 -
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The new Price History graphs for the market are now visible on Singularity.
Please hop onto the test server market and play around. A few notes:
- The time period displayed can be controlled with the resizable and slidable focus box on the lower graph.
- The y-axis length and center of the main graph can be controlled with the scroll wheel.
- Each element of the main graph can be toggled off and on in the graph settings cog menu (upper right).
- Graph draw animations can also be disabled in the settings.
Before testing and commenting, peruse these known issues:
- A crash when you minimize the market to the Neocom with a price history graph displayed
- An untranslated animation label in the price history graph settings menu
- Framing issues at extreme y-axis zooms
- Absence of a legend
But do feel free to comment and report additional bugs via the F12 menu. Thanks
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.03 12:03:26 -
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Known issues updated with fixes from 1079640!
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.05 17:36:09 -
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Limarr wrote:1. Select hide legend in the menu also hide the menu :) FIXED!
Quote:2. I want to have for example a 3 month timeframe for every item in market. How? Right now, you'll have to adjust them manually, but the Market should remember your choice for each item.
Quote:3. The dragbox seems broken. Timeframes for several items switches back to 30 days. Hm...we haven't seen that on the current version. Can you provide an example?
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.09 23:09:20 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:While you are at it, could you take a look at bug report EBR-88929 (issued for TQ)?
Will scan down and investigate tomorrow. On AT recovery just now.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.12 00:35:27 -
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Although this iteration is already out on TQ, I am taking down some of the suggestions here for future iterative work. We are very receptive to any civilly worded criticism that will help improve the game, and I will keep an eye out for ways to improve this feature for everyone. Some description here for users that are curious about the design decisions:
The red zero line and potential for negatives on the Y axis are present because we have not yet implemented the ability to click and drag within the graph. Because scrolling can move the graph center up or down dramatically, we found it useful to have a baseline clearly visible.
We used a utility called Color Oracle to help inform our color choices. We will take another look at the transparency, pursuant to the issues reported here (I play with 100% transparency enabled, personally, but testing has been conducted all along the slider).
Bar and Dot sizes are dynamic depending on the selected time frame of the slidable, resizable focus box, which displays the period selected in days. It matches the length of the X-axis (the number of bars and dot's displayed) and features the same month division lines for clarity.
There are open defects regarding the reset of the Y-axis when selecting or deselecting a setting option in the cogwheel menu and the absence of the current day dot.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.19 13:10:53 -
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Update:
The slider now adjusts for all items. The default start range is still the last 30 days, but once you extend/reposition it, the graphs for all items will reflect that selection.
The current day is displayed on the graph.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.21 13:02:04 -
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Elange/Fanfin,
Would one of you F12 and bug report that issue with screen grabs of the graph and the region you are in? (logs will also automatically attach, which is beneficial).
I've got a graphic programmer working on the more egregious issues and optimizing graph performance overall and it helps to provide very specific information to get a fix.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.25 10:14:54 -
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Thanks, Elange4! I'll take a look today.
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CCP Antiquarian
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Posted - 2016.10.30 18:14:26 -
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Hey Soltys,
In November users will see a Price History graph optimization/performance upgrade (present on Singularity right now), but no core changes to the feature.
I did manage to get a programmer to agree to tackle a number of the other pain points, though, so those changes are underway and should be rolling out with the release following Ascension provided things go as planned. We focused on the most common bug reports and indications of difficulty/confusion in use.
Some intended inclusions are:
- an option to automatically adjust the graph and volume bar heights to the maximums of the selected area
- the addition of clicking and panning within the graph
- an autofocus/reset zoom button
- More sensible y-axis labels
- deactivation of the display of negative numbers (user will still be able to pan/zoom and move the zero line to whatever height they like)
The changes listed should appear on the test server about a week after Ascension deploys to Tranquility. Please feel free to continue to comment in this thread once you've taken a look.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.31 21:02:38 -
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Mister Ripley wrote:Can you please just make it not jump in the timeline like crazy and reset the timeframe all the time?
I don't understand your complaint, but yes. Unequivocally it will not jump crazily, and neither will it loop through infinite resets.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.01 10:31:09 -
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Soltys - We are only touching the price history graph with this feature. The other stuff you mention would be more up Karkur's alley than ours, but I can mention this thread to her.
Bad Bobby - I wasn't being sarcastic, but also not entirely delicate in my response for which I apologize (not sarcastically). The behavior described by Mister Ripley and/or Vincent Athena isn't what's happening, so it won't be present. A pending defect that vaguely resembles the described effect (reproducible with items that have no price history or limited price history) will also not be present in the post-Ascension release.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.01 14:25:51 -
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Hey Mister Ripley,
Yes, the defect regarding items with no history/short histories will be fixed in the release following Ascension.
The interim work around continues to be manual readjustment of the focus slider after viewing an item with no price history.
Your English is fine, by the way. I was being a tad overly pedantic about the use of the idiomatic expressions "like crazy" and "all the time."
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.01 16:26:29 -
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Soltys! Karkur says:
"Post to the LT thread..."
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=275894
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.01 22:02:02 -
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The Economist after my own heart!
Still I welcome all aggression, passive or otherwise. I hope all of us feel free to express ourselves here directly and frankly about current features and upcoming iteration. It's why the Technology and Research Center exists and I'm happy to have you all here commenting.
I will continue to update as information becomes available. I will also continue to do my best to encourage positive changes to the price history graph.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.01 22:03:37 -
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Soltys, I'll also poke the QAs over there.
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.05 11:11:56 -
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I try to avoid face-shooting whenever possible, Nana. But I do appreciate the advice, and you chiming in on this forum. More voices make a fuller chorus.
I know not everyone uses the price history graph, but it is important that it be useful and functional for those who do.
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CCP Antiquarian
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Posted - 2016.11.06 13:32:30 -
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TheSmokingHertog: always good to have more input, so thanks for popping by! Changes are coming for this feature so do get ready to check them out on Singularity. The "jumping" is a result of new/limited history items, but there is a fix underway for that specific bug. Switching between any other items, the graph functions as you would expect.
Soltys: Karkur and I are about to spend 20-some hours together on planes headed for EVE Down Under, so I will take a bit of time to make sure she has seen your input. All bug reports may not be defects, but some of your issues may indicate a need for further iteration/development. EVE is an evolving beast, and you could be the mutagen that leads to a selected trait, analogically speaking.
Bad Bobby: Ping me the specific bug report number for your price history graph being nonfunctional. I will check it out. All of the reports identifying ways that the graph does not work as intended have been elevated to defect status or addressed in feature iteration but it is possible that you have something valuable to contribute.
Everyone: CCP thrives by taking player feedback into account and this is the perfect place for that feedback. Thanks again for chiming in!
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Posted - 2016.11.07 10:11:49 -
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For anyone reading to catch news or ask questions about the Market Graphs, I will continue to post here as information becomes available. At last update on our internal test environment (pre-pre-Singularity):
- The dynamic y-axis option is functional, but needs a bit more attention.
- The hard coded English labels on the tooltip text for the blue volume bars has been submitted for localization.
- The Min/Max line has been added to the legend (which remains hide-able).
- The "Reset View" button, which appears after zooming or panning, has been moved to the upper left-hand corner.
- Automatic focus slider resizing has been corrected, but requires considerable testing.
Players not seeking to report issues (bugs) with the Market Graphs feature but finding themselves in need of further support and formal interaction with CCP including but not limited to the filing of complaints regarding service may submit support tickets at the language-specific sites listed below. Suspicion of developer misconduct can be reported to Internal Affairs via email or petition. The appropriate email address is [email protected] for such reports.
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us https://support.eveonline.com/hc/de https://support.eveonline.com/hc/fr https://support.eveonline.com/hc/ja https://support.eveonline.com/hc/ru
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Posted - 2016.11.12 19:12:29 -
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Hey, Black Romero. My Saturday nights are your Saturday nights.
All three of your points ("gripes" seems negative) are addressed in the post-Ascension release which will hit Singularity on or around the 22nd of November.
Aaril, Vickers Secretary, and TheSmokingHertog:
I have a conversation planned with the UI programmer about the colors. I don't know how that will ultimately play out, but my hope is to reach a conclusion that satisfies the largest number of players from the most varied distribution of playstyles on the widest range of hardware in the most disparate spread of environments.
As for the items with no graph, that is the case for items with no history, but I've not seen it happen on other items. If you get it again, would you be willing to hit f12 and ping me a bugreport? (you are of course under no obligation to do that, it would just be helpful in isolating and correcting the problem).
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.08 12:04:28 -
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Anyone had a look on Sisi recently? Tried out the settings and features?
Click and Pan New Y-axis numbers Dynamic scaling Relocated reset button Optimized performance Focus window memory across sessions
I just got back from Australia and am just catching up on all the news, but what's on Sisi right now is hitting TQ on Tuesday, I believe.
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C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.09 14:11:23 -
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Custom redline, eh?
Adding fields can be a hassle with the limited real estate here, but I'll hit up the programmer and see what he says.
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