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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3677
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Posted - 2016.10.25 03:34:37 -
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Lady Gwendolyn Antollare wrote:Really CCP? An aggro timer for my orca cause I used mining bursts???? Bursts by their nature are passive and should not cause me a timer. This is to stop station games & effectively invulnerable boosters. Given you will be in a belt, it's not going to cause any real effect to an orca being used for mining boosts. Also dispersing nanites is hardly 'passive' |
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1827
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Posted - 2016.10.25 05:48:17 -
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According to the data on Sisi, the T2 Ice Harvesting Drones will need 5 MBit band width...
this means, a max skilled Orca with T2 drones can harvest around 189 ice cubes per hour? Without rigs, but maxed tanked...
this is more than a perfect hulk as far I can see?
Or is this an error in the data base and the band width should be 50 like the T1 version?
Never the less, both versions have a volume of 50 m-¦, therefore not many industrial ships are capable to fit more than one drone. |
Mr Grape Drink
No Prisoners Who.
86
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Posted - 2016.10.25 20:29:39 -
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What's the thoughts on the asteroid belts in null that have the asteroids spread out over 2-3k km? It seems there are a ton of them and Warping a Rorq/Orca around to get one or two asteroids from here and there is going to suck some massive ass? |
Kenneth Fritz
DND Industries FUBAR.
11
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Posted - 2016.10.25 22:28:55 -
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1000 units of heavy water isn't as bad as it sounds since during fuel production you end up amassing a large amount of extra. So while it makes it a bit more involved it's not a game breaker in the least.
Who's your end of the world buddy?
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Ali Virgo
The Collective DARKNESS.
100
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Posted - 2016.10.29 04:20:19 -
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Rorquals-á go into siege to amp up boost but they don't require -áany Capital Siege Array to be made. why is that |
Emma Davaham
Natak Heavy Industries All My Friends Are Ded
0
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Posted - 2016.10.29 16:53:00 -
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So did some playing around with the rorq on sisi.
in siege mode with 5 super drones and max skills using the industrial core II i was able to mine 76 glare crust in 10 minutes sitting off a roid at about 1,000 meters, or one block every 8 seconds.
Outside of siege mode hitting the same roid from approxamtely the same distance i was able to mine about 33 in 10 minutes, or one block every 18 seconds.
Now as far as the rorq boosts it seems a bit underwhelming.
on Tranq a fully boosted skiff with my pilot was able to get about 29 second cycle times. However using the pulse boosts the best i could get on the same setting wad 49 second cycle times. This is a pretty bad hit for the rest of the fleet. Yes, you get protection from the panic button, but if you are at all paying attention then you don't need to use it.
Oh, and then my rorq got torched by a serpentis dreadnought, which i could not get away from since it webbed/scrammed/neuted me. |
Flashmala
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
50
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Posted - 2016.10.31 19:53:25 -
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With regard to the PANIC module, the dev blog stated the following :
"The module only requires Invulnerability Core Operation level 1 to operate, and the skill increases the duration of the P.A.N.I.C. effect by 10% per level. This means that Rorqual pilots can strategically train the Invulnerability Core Operation skill to whatever level they wish and ensures that the Rorqual pilot and its fleet have more information about when the effect will end than the attackers do."
This would indicate that some element of question was intended to not give away the timing of the PANIC cycle end. However, on Sisi, the bubble surrounding the Rorqual, when the PANIC module is engaged, starts to wobble when it nears the end of its cycle, so the enemy can visually see when the cycle is about to end.
These seem counter to each other and we are wondering which of these scenarios was the intended one?
Age does not diminish the extreme disappointment of having a scoop of ice cream fall from the cone.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3690
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Posted - 2016.10.31 21:24:51 -
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Flashmala wrote:
These seem counter to each other and we are wondering which of these scenarios was the intended one?
Both at once probably.
The wobbling only gives them what, 15 seconds notice? So they are taking a gamble on how long they will have to wait till they see that effect, but seeing the effect gives them notice they can start shooting again very very soon. But..... if they know they are within 2 jumps of a staging system...... do they wait or not. How long do they risk giving a response fleet to form. If it's 5 minutes they might be ok, if it's 7 minutes they might not be. That's the idea of the uncertainty. Of course, I can't see any real reason to keep the timer lower for the defender. It doesn't give immunity to tackle, so they can keep web/points on your ships the whole time. So the longer the timer the more chance defenders (or third party) will arrive in time to mess things up.
It doesn't even prevent all damage for that matter, those might be insane shield resists, but the passive regen rate of a barge only gives them something like a 10k tank under the Panic module I believe. Pretty awesome for a barge, but not unbreakable, and if you can punch through the shield with enough damage the armour & hull are then tin foil. So neut them out so they can't local rep, neut the Rorq so it can't RR, and you can kill people while panic'ed if the maths is right. |
Pom Agrant
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2016.11.11 18:57:49 -
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At first, I was very interested in the new mining drones and Rorqual. After testing them on Sisi, I am very disappointed. Mining drones are too slow, too expensive (300mil each for the excavators? What the... were you thinking?)
There is still no shortcut to tell mining drones to mine. "F?" come on... This is easy to fix. Whoever made this needs to be forced to mine for 24hrs straight, using nothing but drones, right-clicking until their ears bleed, as punishment.
That is all... |
Frances Voltaire
Eldorado Exhumers
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Posted - 2016.11.11 21:56:01 -
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Pom Agrant wrote:At first, I was very interested in the new mining drones and Rorqual. After testing them on Sisi, I am very disappointed. Mining drones are too slow, too expensive (300mil each for the excavators? What the... were you thinking?)
There is still no shortcut to tell mining drones to mine. "F?" come on... This is easy to fix. Whoever made this needs to be forced to mine for 24hrs straight, using nothing but drones, right-clicking until their ears bleed, as punishment.
That is all... Amen Brother!!!
Better yet, could mining drones mine what the strip miner is mining or the rock a Target Painter is painting if they are not already mining something else? You know, same as how combat drones attack whatever your shooting at or target painting.
This may be a HUGE ask, is there anyway we can get a shortcut key assignment for launching drones? Something that would launch whatever drones are not grouped up to max bandwidth?
Miners could leave mining drones UN-grouped Drone boats could leave their go to drones UN-grouped |
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MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh
Nova Tectonic Inc Arx Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.11.21 22:59:09 -
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I would like to say something.
I made some calculations and i found a mistake in the ice harvesting drones. This has the effect of giving someone a reduction of 110% on ice harvesting.
This is my math: The orca role bonus give 25% reduction on ice harvesting drones cycle speed. The industrial command ships skill gives a reduction of 50% on cycle speed at level 5 the ice harvesting drone operation skill gives a 25% reduction at level V The ice harvesting drone specialization skill give a 10% reduction at level 5
This combines for a total of 110% on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.
Please look at this and confirm if this is true or not.
have a nice day MrEaglesNL Nova Tectonic |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1947
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Posted - 2016.11.22 12:10:44 -
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MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh wrote:I would like to say something.
I made some calculations and i found a mistake in the ice harvesting drones. This has the effect of giving someone a reduction of 110% on ice harvesting.
This is my math: The orca role bonus give 25% reduction on ice harvesting drones cycle speed. The industrial command ships skill gives a reduction of 50% on cycle speed at level 5 the ice harvesting drone operation skill gives a 25% reduction at level V The ice harvesting drone specialization skill give a 10% reduction at level 5
This combines for a total of 110% on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.
Please look at this and confirm if this is true or not.
I can be wrong here but usually 'reduction of something' in Eve works another way. You don't just sum all bonuses. You apply each of them one by one.
Like two bonuses of 50% do not eliminate value. They divide it by 4.
In Your case i would expect it to be: 1 * 0.75 (orca bonus) * 0.5 ( industrial command ship skill) * 0.75 (ice harvesting operation) * 0.9 (ice harvesting specialization) = 0.253125 of initial cycle time
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1827
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Posted - 2016.11.22 12:39:54 -
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MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh wrote:I would like to say something.
I made some calculations and i found a mistake in the ice harvesting drones. This has the effect of giving someone a reduction of 110% on ice harvesting.
This is my math: The orca role bonus give 25% reduction on ice harvesting drones cycle speed. The industrial command ships skill gives a reduction of 50% on cycle speed at level 5 the ice harvesting drone operation skill gives a 25% reduction at level V The ice harvesting drone specialization skill give a 10% reduction at level 5
This combines for a total of 110% on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.
Please look at this and confirm if this is true or not.
have a nice day MrEaglesNL Nova Tectonic
This means, your drones are carrying one block per hour from your Orca in the belt? -10 %^^
It is not additive, it is commutative :)
Multiplied with each other value - instead of added to each other. |
Kueyen
Mei-Ha's Light Fleet Coordination Coalition
168
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Posted - 2016.11.22 12:48:25 -
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If it were additive (and it isn't), it'd be commutative too. HandelsPharmi intends to say it's multiplicative (which it is).
-x% = *(1-x/100) -25% = *0.75 -50% = *0.5 -10% = *0.9
so -25% -50% -25% -10% = *0.75 *0.5 *0.75 *0.9 = *0.253125 = -74.6825%
Until all are free...
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MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh
Nova Tectonic Inc Arx Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.11.22 16:36:27 -
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Hey guys.
Thank you for explaining this. I will have to say that i think 1 ice mining drone at a time in an orca is very low
Have a nice day MrEaglesNL Nova Tectonic |
GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2016.11.25 01:34:34 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:- We're not planning on changing the restrictions on what ships are allowed into the Rorq SMB at this time. The concern with removing the restrictions is that it would become too powerful combined with the increased jump range.
With previous revamp to ores/minerals of Null, combined with the advantage bonuses for the Engineering Complexes; when the jump ranges be reduced for industrials? Surely encouraging more industrial play outside out high-sec would be worthy goal.
In trade-off for lowering the jump range, would then allow the Rorqual more flexibility for its SMB ship storage. |
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