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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2120
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Posted - 2016.10.06 18:04:11 -
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The main problem with arguing theology is there are no facts to prove it right. And by the same token, none to prove it wrong either. So the argument boils down to a matter of perspective and, ultimately, a lot of Ad Hominem and straw men.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2497
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Posted - 2016.10.06 18:10:35 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:The main problem with arguing theology is there are no facts to prove it right. And by the same token, none to prove it wrong either. So the argument boils down to a matter of perspective and, ultimately, a lot of Ad Hominem and straw men.
You did catch that one side of this discussion is, in fact, the very unfalsifiability you're claiming makes the discussion impossible to have, right? That in effect, you've said 'it's impossible talk about this because one of you has been making my point all along'? So in effect, you're saying it's impossible to have the very discussion we're having?
I submit that the fact that we're having this discussion means it's possible to have this discussion. Otherwise, Lady Newelle and I are doing the impossible, and thus, gods.
Psst: we're not gods.
P.S.: At least, I don't think we're gods. I kinda get the feeling that if we were gods, Sami'd have told me by now. Probably by smacking me and telling me to stop being a false god because being a false god in public is inappropriate. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2497
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Posted - 2016.10.06 18:15:06 -
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:The Kaztropol house style of capitalization apparently involves capitalizing nouns, verbs, and adverbs. I think.
EDIT: I did read Saint Pedanticus' work. It's obscure but it is real. Also, surprisingly helpful. Public works Scripture is a little boring but they really knew how to plan a park or make a cloverleaf interchange.
You know, I was all sorts of weirded out by this, too, but then I realized that by claiming to have read the works of Saint 'Literally-a-made-up-word-implying-I-correct-you-on-every-little-nitpicl', you're engaging in extremely subtle Amarr snark. Well played. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2868
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Posted - 2016.10.06 18:57:22 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I feel like this discussion has, again, become nothing more than a bunch of people lying in wait to get their feelings hurt to justify playing the usual trap cards. Any discussion is nothing more than attempting to get the other side to say the thing that allows the opposition to roll on the floor clutching their knee.
"M'freedoms!" 'M'faith!" "M'freedoms!" "M'faith!"
And so on, ad nauseum. Tribals are simple not smart enough, so they fell to gallente propaganda, longing for their chaos.
Have any ideas how to fix minmatars before they destroy themselves and everything around them?
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2121
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Posted - 2016.10.06 19:17:41 -
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Arrendis wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:The main problem with arguing theology is there are no facts to prove it right. And by the same token, none to prove it wrong either. So the argument boils down to a matter of perspective and, ultimately, a lot of Ad Hominem and straw men. You did catch that one side of this discussion is, in fact, the very unfalsifiability you're claiming makes the discussion impossible to have, right? That in effect, you've said 'it's impossible talk about this because one of you has been making my point all along'? So in effect, you're saying it's impossible to have the very discussion we're having? I submit that the fact that we're having this discussion means it's possible to have this discussion. Otherwise, Lady Newelle and I are doing the impossible, and thus, gods. Psst: we're not gods. P.S.: At least, I don't think we're gods. I kinda get the feeling that if we were gods, Sami'd have told me by now. Probably by smacking me and telling me to stop being a false god because being a false god in public is inappropriate. No, I'm saying that neither side will relent their position on the matter, not that it is impossible to discuss it. It just won't go anywhere.
P.S. I am a God. Worship me.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
834
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Posted - 2016.10.06 19:29:18 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I feel like this discussion has, again, become nothing more than a bunch of people lying in wait to get their feelings hurt to justify playing the usual trap cards. Any discussion is nothing more than attempting to get the other side to say the thing that allows the opposition to roll on the floor clutching their knee.
"M'freedoms!" 'M'faith!" "M'freedoms!" "M'faith!"
And so on, ad nauseum. Tribals are simple not smart enough, so they fell to gallente propaganda, longing for their chaos. Have any ideas how to fix minmatars before they destroy themselves and everything around them? We don't need your help, we are progressing just fine without you mucking things up further. Also, we didn't fall for any propaganda. We allied ourselves with the Federation to prevent the Amarr from steamrolling us, we continue to honor that alliance today because when we commit to something we see it through.... and it hasn't been to much of an inconvenience.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
2302
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:35:31 -
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Kim is a horrible troll and a thread derailer of the first magnitude Pilot Toov. Best to simply block and ignore her.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2498
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:38:01 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote: P.S. I am a God. Worship me.
Sorry, wrong side of the argument for that. |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1656
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:49:40 -
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So are we enslaving Pieter or not? I've been getting the cage ready since this thread started.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
841
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:59:54 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Kim is a horrible troll and a thread derailer of the first magnitude Pilot Toov. Best to simply block and ignore her. Tried that. Discovered that I would have to block 90% of the rest of the IGS to avoid seeing her posts, and since I steadfastly refuse to be dislodged from this forum by a troll, I figured I would just leave her unblocked and try and view it as free lulz...
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1409
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:00:21 -
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The Amarr are starting to enslave the Caldari? Not suprised... |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2121
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:01:40 -
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Arrendis wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote: P.S. I am a God. Worship me.
Sorry, wrong side of the argument for that. Never to late to convert. You'll like it in my cult, we have alcohol and cheesecake.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
841
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:02:40 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:The Amarr are starting to enslave the Caldari? Not suprised... It was only a matter of time.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
495
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:04:54 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:...we continue to honor that alliance today because when we commit to something we see it through...
Yet you invaded Colelie and broke treaties with attacks in Yulai and the Empire.
I don't think you are using 'honor', 'alliance' and 'commitment' correctly here.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
496
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:07:41 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:So are we enslaving Pieter or not? I've been getting the cage ready since this thread started. It's really up to Mr Tuulinen. I do have the paperwork ready should he so choose, though it would mean an end to his career as a capsuleer.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2498
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:53:06 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:So are we enslaving Pieter or not? I've been getting the cage ready since this thread started.
That's entirely up to him, but make sure he has a safe word. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2498
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Posted - 2016.10.06 22:54:57 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:Tyrel Toov wrote:...we continue to honor that alliance today because when we commit to something we see it through... Yet you invaded Colelie and broke treaties with attacks in Yulai and the Empire. I don't think you are using 'honor', 'alliance' and 'commitment' correctly here.
We never invaded Coleile. That was 'aggressive diplomacy'. |
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
841
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Posted - 2016.10.06 23:01:30 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:Tyrel Toov wrote:...we continue to honor that alliance today because when we commit to something we see it through... Yet you invaded Colelie and broke treaties with attacks in Yulai and the Empire. I don't think you are using 'honor', 'alliance' and 'commitment' correctly here. And we still find your ships taking slaves in Republic space which, if I recall, is also a violation of treaties. So was the Empire's attack on Ratillose. Nobody's perfect.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
1994
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Posted - 2016.10.07 04:36:46 -
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For a moment there I had thought the contents of some old corporate data vaults had been breached and planning documents leaked.
Good thing it was just clickbait. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
6518
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Posted - 2016.10.07 14:12:36 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote:So are we enslaving Pieter or not? I've been getting the cage ready since this thread started. It's really up to Mr Tuulinen. I do have the paperwork ready should he so choose, though it would mean an end to his career as a capsuleer. I hardly feel that I would be an ornament to your house, Lady Newelle, although it's good to know that there are all sorts of offers out there.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
496
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Posted - 2016.10.07 22:46:26 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Mitara Newelle wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote:So are we enslaving Pieter or not? I've been getting the cage ready since this thread started. It's really up to Mr Tuulinen. I do have the paperwork ready should he so choose, though it would mean an end to his career as a capsuleer. I hardly feel that I would be an ornament to your house, Lady Newelle, although it's good to know that there are all sorts of offers out there. Well, if you ever change your mind then. I pray Lord Newelle is not too put out having all his work be for naught. You may have to treat him to spirits to abate his disappointment.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1663
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Posted - 2016.10.07 22:50:10 -
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It's such a nice cage, too. Has wood shavings on the bottom and a exercise wheel. And only the finest of protein delicacy pellets.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
1995
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Posted - 2016.10.07 23:14:16 -
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All I'm getting from actually wanting to enslave Pieter is now in one word:
Cuckold. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2870
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Posted - 2016.10.08 14:17:28 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Mitara Newelle wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote:So are we enslaving Pieter or not? I've been getting the cage ready since this thread started. It's really up to Mr Tuulinen. I do have the paperwork ready should he so choose, though it would mean an end to his career as a capsuleer. I hardly feel that I would be an ornament to your house, Lady Newelle, although it's good to know that there are all sorts of offers out there. Well, if you ever change your mind then. I pray Lord Newelle is not too put out having all his work be for naught. You may have to treat him to spirits to abate his disappointment. Why anyone shall be disappointed?
Well, I know that slavery in the State is prohibited, so I can't make any related offers. However, if I'd have free funds, I could offer Tuulinen-haan a job as my maid.
On the other hand, having a personal maid for Caldari Officer is unacceptable. Caldari Officer shall be able to make all her house duties herself without any help. Hedonism and evasion of work and maintaining your appearance yourself for Caldari is unacceptable. (Did I just repeat unacceptable? Excuse me. That was unacceptable.)
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
54
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Posted - 2016.10.08 14:36:21 -
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I personally don't mind avoiding work at all? Pieter, if the simple life ever calls and you'd like to do laundry and make noodles instead of murdering people in space, it would be a sacred duty to provide for you and an honor. |
Jason Galente
Hole Riders Spaceship Samurai
807
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Posted - 2016.10.08 15:10:53 -
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Not really sure why everyone is giving Pieter, a respectable man, such insulting offers.
Did I miss something here?
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2505
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Posted - 2016.10.08 15:42:02 -
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Wait, you mean you haven't been getting similar offers, Jason? I know I have... |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2870
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Posted - 2016.10.08 15:53:40 -
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I would like to bring apology to Tuulinen-haan if he would consider my offer as insulting. Also I would like to state that my offer was a hypothetical and I didn't actually offered it to him... only dreamed aloud about it.
I am sorry.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
2303
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Posted - 2016.10.08 16:29:34 -
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Hmm, no one's offered to enslave me recently either. Should I feel left out?
Wait, this is all about the Civire jawline isn't it?
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1665
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Posted - 2016.10.08 16:43:07 -
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You people do know I was joking, right? I know Pieter, we've been acquiescences for a while.
You also do know we don't keep people in giant furrier enclosures, right? Please tell me you know that.
It was supposed to be funny...
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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