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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.10.06 16:53:55 -
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Revis Owen wrote:Lan Wang wrote:But thanks, you make me feel relevant On behalf of the New Order, you're welcome! Often unsung is the fact that the New Order's ubiquitous relevance in highsec brings relevance to every highsec citizen, no matter how low their status is. As a moon gains a bright shine from reflected sunlight, every highsec miner/hauler/mission runner/etc. gains relevance from NO's relevance. To be sure, that relevance is unwelcome by some as it results in their loss of ship and pod. But ANY relevance is better than no relevance at all. Praise James!
Stop it you're making me blush
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
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DJ puar
Covert Economics Mordus Angels
5
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Posted - 2016.10.06 16:57:07 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Hi Chiana, and thanks for your feedback. You see, the Code is, undoubtedly, the most important, but by no means the only legal document in highsec. Judging by the time of your posts, chances are high that you come from either America or Australia, which makes it easier for you to understand the concept of common law. In the United States, you cannot say that you have studied the American constitution unless you have also studied the innumerable decisions of the Supreme Court. Likewise, not only does the Law of Highsec consist of the New Halaima Code of Conduct (the Constitution of Highsec, so to say), but also encompasses all the posts and articles of James 315 on www.minerbumping.com and third-party websites. The Saviour of Highsec has frequently codified (pun intended) various precedents set forth by our valiant Agents, which includes, but not limited to, prevention of autopiloting, decadent fitting, or, like in your case, hauling without a valid mining permit. As for using profanity in local and in exchanges with our Agents, you are correct in mentioning that it is, indeed, a common feature among highsec miners. You should keep in mind, however, that by sticking to this way of communication you by default make yourself equal to that exact lowest denominator, which is why addressing the perpetrator as "miner" when asking him to calm down (as in "Miner, calm down") is recommended by the New Order Agents' SOP. For further inquiries on the possibility of a reimbursement, you need to present your lossmail so that we all can figure out what actually happened. I hope that this response has been able to clarify the fine points of the Code and will improve the enjoyability of your stay within the space of the New Order of Highsec. Praise James! -- S.
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
602
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Posted - 2016.10.06 17:00:32 -
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DJ puar wrote:Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Hi Chiana, and thanks for your feedback. You see, the Code is, undoubtedly, the most important, but by no means the only legal document in highsec. Judging by the time of your posts, chances are high that you come from either America or Australia, which makes it easier for you to understand the concept of common law. In the United States, you cannot say that you have studied the American constitution unless you have also studied the innumerable decisions of the Supreme Court. Likewise, not only does the Law of Highsec consist of the New Halaima Code of Conduct (the Constitution of Highsec, so to say), but also encompasses all the posts and articles of James 315 on www.minerbumping.com and third-party websites. The Saviour of Highsec has frequently codified (pun intended) various precedents set forth by our valiant Agents, which includes, but not limited to, prevention of autopiloting, decadent fitting, or, like in your case, hauling without a valid mining permit. As for using profanity in local and in exchanges with our Agents, you are correct in mentioning that it is, indeed, a common feature among highsec miners. You should keep in mind, however, that by sticking to this way of communication you by default make yourself equal to that exact lowest denominator, which is why addressing the perpetrator as "miner" when asking him to calm down (as in "Miner, calm down") is recommended by the New Order Agents' SOP. For further inquiries on the possibility of a reimbursement, you need to present your lossmail so that we all can figure out what actually happened. I hope that this response has been able to clarify the fine points of the Code and will improve the enjoyability of your stay within the space of the New Order of Highsec. Praise James! -- S. 3rd party website are AFK and bot aspiring Wat? How can a website be afk and/or bot aspiring? XD
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
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Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
692
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Posted - 2016.10.06 17:52:05 -
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Well, this turned out differently than expected.
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Papa Book
the 57th Overlanders Brigade Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2016.10.06 18:27:43 -
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Chiana Moro
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.10.06 19:12:23 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Hi Chiana, and thanks for your feedback. You see, the Code is, undoubtedly, the most important, but by no means the only legal document in highsec. Judging by the time of your posts, chances are high that you come from either America or Australia, which makes it easier for you to understand the concept of common law. In the United States, you cannot say that you have studied the American constitution unless you have also studied the innumerable decisions of the Supreme Court. Likewise, not only does the Law of Highsec consist of the New Halaima Code of Conduct (the Constitution of Highsec, so to say), but also encompasses all the posts and articles of James 315 on www.minerbumping.com and third-party websites. The Saviour of Highsec has frequently codified (pun intended) various precedents set forth by our valiant Agents, which includes, but not limited to, prevention of autopiloting, decadent fitting, or, like in your case, hauling without a valid mining permit. As for using profanity in local and in exchanges with our Agents, you are correct in mentioning that it is, indeed, a common feature among highsec miners. You should keep in mind, however, that by sticking to this way of communication you by default make yourself equal to that exact lowest denominator, which is why addressing the perpetrator as "miner" when asking him to calm down (as in "Miner, calm down") is recommended by the New Order Agents' SOP. For further inquiries on the possibility of a reimbursement, you need to present your lossmail so that we all can figure out what actually happened. I hope that this response has been able to clarify the fine points of the Code and will improve the enjoyability of your stay within the space of the New Order of Highsec. Praise James! -- S.
Dear Sir, Thank you for your illuminating post on the various sources governing your operations. I was led to believe there was only one, and as I am usually not a "highsec" dweller I was not aware of your organisation. As for renumation I feel the powers that provide this forum frown upon the practice of posting lossmails. However I feel the need to stress that I was not "hauling" anything at the time of incident but rather endevoured to move an empty ship out of your system of contract. Regardless I will hopefully soon be able to leave this highsec space and will hopefully not require your services, or indeed be subject to your contracts, in the future.
Best regards,
Chiana |
Chiana Moro
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2016.10.06 19:16:24 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:-op isn't mad -op proceeds to make a forum post (of all things) to show her discontent GG no re Oh btw, Quote:The Code is a living, breathing document [...]
I was led to believe there was one document, which was not updated and it didn't cover the situation at hand. Which was the whole point of the original message. Which, had you bother to read it in full, or even, as a worst case scenario, been able to read it at all, would hopefully had understood.
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
602
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Posted - 2016.10.06 20:00:06 -
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Chiana Moro wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:-op isn't mad -op proceeds to make a forum post (of all things) to show her discontent GG no re Oh btw, Quote:The Code is a living, breathing document [...] I was led to believe there was one document, which was not updated and it didn't cover the situation at hand. Which was the whole point of the original message. Which, had you bother to read it in full, or even, as a worst case scenario, been able to read it at all, would hopefully had understood. Pointing that I don't know how to read only points your own inability to see how frustrated you are with your loss.
Haulers, miners, mission runners all need permits. Because no permit, no ship :)
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Chiana Moro
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2016.10.06 20:11:28 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Chiana Moro wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:-op isn't mad -op proceeds to make a forum post (of all things) to show her discontent GG no re Oh btw, Quote:The Code is a living, breathing document [...] I was led to believe there was one document, which was not updated and it didn't cover the situation at hand. Which was the whole point of the original message. Which, had you bother to read it in full, or even, as a worst case scenario, been able to read it at all, would hopefully had understood. Pointing that I don't know how to read only points your own inability to see how frustrated you are with your loss. Haulers, miners, mission runners all need permits. Because no permit, no ship :)
Confirming you either can't read or unable to understand what you read. I don't need a low end hauler, I don't give a **** about it really. Nor will I reply to in the future to people unable to understand this.
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
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Posted - 2016.10.06 20:21:25 -
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Miner, calm down.
Why else would you post about CODE. Other than because you're mad? People trying to understand talk to Agents ingame instead of being forum drama queens like yourself
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
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Pretagos Omilas
Arch Arsonists of EvE Another Really Stupid Enterprise
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Posted - 2016.10.06 20:45:29 -
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Chiana Moro wrote: Dear Sir, (...) However I feel the need to stress that I was not "hauling" anything at the time of incident but rather endevoured to move an empty ship out of your system of contract. (...)
So you admit you were hauling an empty ship?
Praise James
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Chiana Moro
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2016.10.07 02:20:51 -
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As much as I "haul" my Cynabal. |
StonerPhReaK
AFK Inc.
465
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Posted - 2016.10.07 02:26:12 -
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Chiana Moro wrote:Chiana Moro is sadly neglected
However, if it pleases you I would be appreciative of a voluntary gift, for the loss 5 minutes purposeful gameplay caused by rerouting through Tribute to Gamis, in the order of 2 billion ISK. You can donate them in my account any time you feel convenient.
And please fix your code of conduct to an THE EVEN NEWER AND CORRECTED HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT
Best regards,
Chiana
Im wondering. Does the CODE still owe you the 2 billion or have they dodged your wrath?
Also, Leading right into a post from the title is a bigger crime than the hauler you wer hauling that was empty. I'll think up a rule and slap a huge pricetag on it (probably 2 billion or somethingish) so be sure to pay up or get added to 'the list'. Until then ill be AFK. Feel free to have a busy day.
Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
281
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Posted - 2016.10.07 02:41:36 -
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So much drama over an empty T1 industrial |
Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.10.07 08:22:50 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Chiana Moro wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:-op isn't mad -op proceeds to make a forum post (of all things) to show her discontent GG no re Oh btw, Quote:The Code is a living, breathing document [...] I was led to believe there was one document, which was not updated and it didn't cover the situation at hand. Which was the whole point of the original message. Which, had you bother to read it in full, or even, as a worst case scenario, been able to read it at all, would hopefully had understood. Pointing that I don't know how to read only points your own inability to see how frustrated you are with your loss. Haulers, miners, mission runners all need permits. Because no permit, no ship :)
hey dom when you gonna join code or do you prefer to just be a pet?
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.10.07 09:44:33 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Chiana Moro wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:-op isn't mad -op proceeds to make a forum post (of all things) to show her discontent GG no re Oh btw, Quote:The Code is a living, breathing document [...] I was led to believe there was one document, which was not updated and it didn't cover the situation at hand. Which was the whole point of the original message. Which, had you bother to read it in full, or even, as a worst case scenario, been able to read it at all, would hopefully had understood. Pointing that I don't know how to read only points your own inability to see how frustrated you are with your loss. Haulers, miners, mission runners all need permits. Because no permit, no ship :) hey dom when you gonna join code or do you prefer to just be a pet? Such a loud mouth lol As far as I know I'm not a pet... since, you know, I still do whatever the hell I want lmao Unless that's your definition of a pet hahahah
Either way, you're not relevant to me (or this thread tbh), so yeah :P
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.10.07 09:49:48 -
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youre not relevant to this thread either lol you just come in and post propaganda for some alliance you aint in, that makes you a pet
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1144
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Posted - 2016.10.07 09:59:59 -
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Chiana Moro wrote:And as I was simply moving an empty ship, not hauling, it could arguably be claimed the ship wasn't a hauler in the first place. Even when empty, a truck is still a truck.
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Piz Caldera
Saubaer Schweinepriester
52
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Posted - 2016.10.07 10:08:51 -
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I like to be your pet Miss Lang Wan. But i m stinky and smelly . abit...
Yesterday i got wardecced after this thread. In my onemancorp with 40 active killrights. Howdy, I M GONNA GET YA!
Praise James! |
Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.10.07 10:12:30 -
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Piz Caldera wrote:I like to be your pet Miss Lang Wan. But i m stinky and smelly . abit...
Yesterday i got wardecced after this thread. In my onemancorp with 40 active killrights. Howdy, I M GONNA GET YA!
Praise James!
im sure i could organise a sponge bath and a hair cut for you, sorry gonna get who?
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
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Posted - 2016.10.07 11:42:11 -
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Lan Wang wrote:youre not relevant to this thread either lol you just come in and post propaganda for some alliance you aint in, that makes you a pet What tells you I don't have a CODE. alt? I prefer posting on my main since I get way salter responses from carebears and F1 monkeys ;)
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.10.07 11:44:41 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Lan Wang wrote:youre not relevant to this thread either lol you just come in and post propaganda for some alliance you aint in, that makes you a pet What tells you I don't have a CODE. alt? I prefer posting on my main since I get way salter responses from carebears and F1 monkeys ;)
nobody is salty you're just triggered
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
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Posted - 2016.10.07 12:02:12 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lan Wang wrote:youre not relevant to this thread either lol you just come in and post propaganda for some alliance you aint in, that makes you a pet What tells you I don't have a CODE. alt? I prefer posting on my main since I get way salter responses from carebears and F1 monkeys ;) nobody is salty you're just triggered How so? I'm immune to stupidity and petty trolls Unless you're going to contribute to the op's post I got nothing left to say to you :)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
41
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Posted - 2016.10.07 23:05:50 -
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If you read the Code, then you saw the part about it being a living, breathing document.
Nothing left to say. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.10.07 23:18:56 -
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Ironic how many CODE agents themselves lack permits
Time for them to start awoxing (though it's not really awoxing as they're not following the law) each other, blowing themselves up
James 315 himself is not above the law, and he lacks a permit
There, I said it
e: Someone should pay me my customary 15m ISK legalese-treatise-examineese fee, TYIA
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.10.07 23:37:24 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Ironic how many CODE agents themselves lack permits
Time for them to start awoxing (though it's not really awoxing as they're not following the law) each other, blowing themselves up
James 315 himself is not above the law, and he lacks a permit
There, I said it
e: Someone should pay me my customary 15m ISK legalese-treatise-examineese fee, TYIA
all i see james315 doing is begging for iskin market discussions.
where is james315 the dirty peasant
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Pretagos Omilas
Arch Arsonists of EvE Another Really Stupid Enterprise
8
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Posted - 2016.10.08 00:00:05 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Ironic how many CODE agents themselves lack permits
Time for them to start awoxing (though it's not really awoxing as they're not following the law) each other, blowing themselves up
James 315 himself is not above the law, and he lacks a permit
There, I said it
e: Someone should pay me my customary 15m ISK legalese-treatise-examineese fee, TYIA
First of all, enforcing the Code does not require to have a permit. Didn't you read the most valuable document there is in eve history? Or didn't you understand its true meaning? There are actually trained agents that will help you to understand every single line! Second, the question if James indeed is above THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT can only be determined by a democratic vote. Since this vote already happened by proxy we only have to ask James himself.
Dear saviour of hisec, could you please enlighten our path and tell us if these heretics are right in their ridiculous claim that you're breaking your own code of conduct or if we should feel ashamed to even ask that question for clarifying purposes. Please have mercy on our soul and keep saving hi sec on our behalf as we are trying our best to serve you well and do our duty to make hi sec a better place.
Praise James |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18486
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Posted - 2016.10.08 00:11:49 -
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Pretagos Omilas wrote:Didn't you read the most valuable document there is in eve history? what does the EULA have to do with this?
Praposal:Un-F**k Locator Agants
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
13039
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Posted - 2016.10.08 00:45:19 -
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Quote:First of all, enforcing the Code does not require to have a permit.
I'm pretty sure that enforcing it with a permit would at the very least be following the spirit of the Code - and probably the letter, considering all high sec activities require a permit, which would presumably include enforcing said Code - because to insist others follow the NHC without a valid permit is very much like police officers operating without badges.
QED, where are those badges?
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
3539
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Posted - 2016.10.08 01:11:20 -
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Pretagos Omilas wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Ironic how many CODE agents themselves lack permits
Time for them to start awoxing (though it's not really awoxing as they're not following the law) each other, blowing themselves up
James 315 himself is not above the law, and he lacks a permit
There, I said it
e: Someone should pay me my customary 15m ISK legalese-treatise-examineese fee, TYIA First of all, enforcing the Code does not require to have a permit. Didn't you read the most valuable document there is in eve history? Or didn't you understand its true meaning? There are actually trained agents that will help you to understand every single line! Second, the question if James indeed is above THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT can only be determined by a democratic vote. Since this vote already happened by proxy we only have to ask James himself. Dear saviour of hisec, could you please enlighten our path and tell us if these heretics are right in their ridiculous claim that you're breaking your own code of conduct or if we should feel ashamed to even ask that question for clarifying purposes. Please have mercy on our soul and keep saving hi sec on our behalf as we are trying our best to serve you well and do our duty to make hi sec a better place. Praise James
look man, dont sumon jamie here, he is busy in market discussion collecting isk and laughing at idiots like you pedaling his bull*hit like stupid little lapdogs.
you aint even in code so dont post here like you are some sort of agent, your a wannabe like the other guys who keep pedalling code crap. you wanna be relevant, join code then we can all laugh at you
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