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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
557
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Posted - 2016.10.13 17:31:27 -
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The OP is a known rebel miner who sometimes whore's on to CONCORD kills as Code enforcement is taking place in the system he prefers, Kino. He's a highsec alt of an organization that supports their worm hole activities by AFK mining in highsec for ice. Usually in a fleet of skiffs.
His definition of griefing is someone interfering with the flow of ice into his ships. He has, rudely in my opinion, declined to buy a mining permit and does not follow the Code requirement of keeping local clear of profanities. As is usual in situations like this he wants CCP to save him from interaction with other players.
As best I can tell he and his counterparts have been driven from Kino by the bumper.
AND I deny that Kino has ever been a peaceful system...
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Naimh
2
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Posted - 2016.10.13 17:39:16 -
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ISD Fractal wrote:I removed a post that did not contribute to the discussion in a meaningful way. Careful now, follow that thread too far and you may as well just set the place ablaze.
Knock Knock
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1213
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Posted - 2016.10.13 17:44:48 -
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Nero Jove wrote:Just curious if a player doing nothing but continually harassing players in a system all day long would be considered griefing by CCP? It was a peaceful system until this guy showed up . First came his 10 toon ice mining fleet. Then came his griefer. He bumps and bumps and bumps. every spawn - every single day. He never misses one. The obvious answer is just leave the system, but that feels like such a cop out. Ideas of how to deal with this are appreciated.
Switch to the ice mining ore t2 frigate. Use a 10 mn Afterburner. Orbit the ice at 2500m or so. Mine away. Chances are, you will be too fast to be bumped. |
Alessienne Ellecon
Solitude Rangers
61
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Posted - 2016.10.14 07:25:23 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:That or hire someone to grief him back, 10 toon ice mining fleet, sounds like CODE should investigate.... We are not your personal police. Also the OP has no mining permit. Maybe he should look for another Highsec elite-PvP content creator if there is even one left.
Because gods forbid you lot ever do anything useful, right?
Rush Crosix wrote:If it is becoming too much of a problem, then I would suggest taking CODE up on their offer. They might be willing to camp him out for a high price. Just make sure you can financially back it up.
I would suggest, as others have in this thread, that the OP acquaint himself with the various social mechanics of EVE and hire some mercenaries to take care of the bumper (who is probably an affiliate of CODE anyway). Learn to play the game instead of sitting on the forums and whining.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5359
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Posted - 2016.10.14 07:48:22 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:That or hire someone to grief him back, 10 toon ice mining fleet, sounds like CODE should investigate.... We are not your personal police. Also the OP has no mining permit. Maybe he should look for another Highsec elite-PvP content creator if there is even one left.
Because gods forbid you lot ever do anything useful, right?[quote]
I consider punishing the imprudent useful.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Sitting Bull Lakota
SBL Co
175
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Posted - 2016.10.14 08:14:28 -
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So your only options are:- Bump or suicide gank him
- Hire someone to bump/gank him
- Politely ask him to stop
- Give up and leave
Safety sure is inconvenient.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5359
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Posted - 2016.10.14 08:16:09 -
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Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:So your only options are: - Bump or suicide gank him
- Hire someone to bump/gank him
- Politely ask him to stop
- Give up and leave
Safety sure is inconvenient.
Safety?
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Gokigenyou
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.10.16 13:17:44 -
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
293
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Posted - 2016.10.16 14:33:13 -
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You can win the ISK war in game while losing the ISK war on the Killboard.
It's simple. If the guy has 1b and you have 10b, and let's say for every one of his ships you suicide gank you lose double the ISK he loses.
So he may think you are a fool as you are losing more ISK than him per gank.
But if you do it enough times, he will have 0 ISK while you have 8b ISK left in game. He can't call you a fool anymore then. :)
"When faced with my demons, I clothe them and feed them,
and I smile, yes I smile as they are taking me over" - Strange Glue
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Alana Packham
Wardec Solutions
16
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Posted - 2016.10.16 14:34:25 -
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This is happening a lot lately, huge fleets on people's doorsteps are nothing new but appearing at every spawn, in npc corps, running their own bump and gank fleets that is.
Most of this has been said but :
1. you have 3 toon slots on each account, make a mining alt or 2 and keep them in a quieter system. It can be useful if you want more iskies as you can switch between spawn's (any dedicated ice miner should have at least 1 alt miner on the same account).
2. if you move make a low isk, disposable bumper and bump the **** out of him. If he is running a fleet he is either jet canning or feeding orca, shoot his cans, bump his orca, nudge his hauler, you'll have spare time in between your new spawns. he won't leave but you can have fun, teach the kids, they'll enjoy it.
3. code are a useful tool just don't let them know it (oops its out now), go to uedama and shout that there is a hulk fleet in that system, you won't see them for dust. you're mining in your new system, who cares if they camp the place for a month? failing that look up the local system killmails (dotlan is good for that) to find the local ganker and bait them into thinking you run the big fleet.
4. never hire anyone to do rubbish like this, they'll just follow you and bait you into paying over and over again, you'll be classed as an easy mark. even if the perp is an a pc corp hi sec wars are so pointless the only thing paying a merc corp will do is cost you isk. I used to take work from people, hire merc's through another alt and so far I have seen 1 kill in however many years. (why Alana is now a forum toon, started to feel like I was robbing people)
5a. You never said your own setup, is this bloke there in other peoples retaliation against you? Do you have 20 accounts and his gank fleet is there to get rid of you?
or
5b. If you are flying a solo, tanked skiff and you are awake there is not a lot that a solo ganker can do within game rules to kill you. He can't log in and move 10 cats to you quick enough that you cant warp away, if he is chasing you around the system he isn't mining, someone has to pay for all those accounts...
pretty poinless points I know.
I'm extremely surprised you've been mining for 2 years and never moved before, please give code your address, you need more training.
p.s. I might be retired but I still know a bit, I won't give clean alt names, gank names or even the miner names but take a tour around Ignebaener on American tz's and see what there is too see.
p.p.s. this isn't directed at code, really, honestly.
Its not that the Dev's have never been hi-sec miners, more that if they ever admitted it they'd be designing new pattern's in the dust as they sweep the car park. Would you employ someone who spends all day mining in hi?
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Arcelian
Metentis
204
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Posted - 2016.10.17 16:54:59 -
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Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:Nero Jove wrote:Just curious if a player doing nothing but continually harassing players in a system all day long would be considered griefing by CCP? It was a peaceful system until this guy showed up . First came his 10 toon ice mining fleet. Then came his griefer. He bumps and bumps and bumps. every spawn - every single day. He never misses one. The obvious answer is just leave the system, but that feels like such a cop out. Ideas of how to deal with this are appreciated. Gank his fleet. My interpretation of the Holy Code is that it is our collective responsibility to protect His fields from wanton greed and bot-aspirancy. His agents are as monks. They spread the good news, act in His name, collect alms, and make pilgrimages to the First Field. They are reliable, but sadly not ever present. As His faithful, we should ensure that blasphemies of the kind you describe do not go unanswered. Take up the catalyst and purge these transgressors from your midst. Back to reality for a moment. This guy probably has all of his alts in NPC corp to keep them safe from wardecs. After the November update, combined with the many incremental nerfs to "content creation" this guy's ice fleet will be very nearly invulnerable. He will be safe from all but the most dedicated of suicide gank attacks. Now, he is altering the game immensely for the normal residents of this system, and there is not a thing they will be able to do about it. This is why NPC corps need to be vulnerable to wardecs.
What? Why?
I read the entirety of the November release updates, didn't see anything that would cause a mining fleet to be "invulnerable" unless I missed something important.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2926
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Posted - 2016.10.18 16:47:26 -
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Alessienne Ellecon wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:That or hire someone to grief him back, 10 toon ice mining fleet, sounds like CODE should investigate.... We are not your personal police. Also the OP has no mining permit. Maybe he should look for another Highsec elite-PvP content creator if there is even one left. Because gods forbid you lot ever do anything useful, right? You think you are doing something useful? This is a video game. You mine pixel rocks to produce pixel spaceships. If you think that is useful I recommend a serious dose of anti-matter, that usually does the trick.
If it ever feels like I do something useful and not just for fun in this game I will quit and play another game to have fun again. Seriously, this is pure entertainment and not my daily chore.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2926
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:20:20 -
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Arcelian wrote: What? Why?
I read the entirety of the November release updates, didn't see anything that would cause a mining fleet to be "invulnerable" unless I missed something important.
Yes, you missed the words 'nearly' and 'all but the most dedicated'
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Francis Raven
ExDominion Evictus.
42
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:40:39 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:By CCPs outline, you would need to make an attempt to move away from the area, not just to other belts in the same system, nor just a system or two away. If you move away and he/she follows, then that might be considered harassment. Sounds from your explanation that it's a guy competing with you for resources. I doubt, based on what CCP has previously said, that it would be considered harassment, but a petition would be the only way to know. Unless it's an issue that falls under rookie griefing: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing As for how to deal, get together with others and bump his fleet out of mining range. Wardec him. Gank his fleet. Hire mercs. Do unto others as they have done unto you, but x10. It's the Eve way.
Well said!
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1214
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:41:08 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Arcelian wrote: What? Why?
I read the entirety of the November release updates, didn't see anything that would cause a mining fleet to be "invulnerable" unless I missed something important.
Yes, you missed the words 'nearly' and 'all but the most dedicated'
But yet Will it be 'nearly' or rather now easier to grief?
Currently, the boosting orca, and let's face it if the guy has 10 ice miners chances are, there is an orca boosting, is located at a POS, citadel, or is on station. You can't see who is boosting but he is there. There may also be a command ship that is also boosting.
Come November, those ships will have to be on grid and in close proximity to the mining vessels. Just start learning to bump the orca. That action will most likely frustrate the miner as he will have his ships set to orbit or keep the orca at range. Every bump will disturb the fleet. And it is far easier to hit an orca with a bump ship than an exhumed or mining barge.
Additionally, there are no changed planned that impact the mining vessels so killing them will be no different.
So how will November make it harder? If anything, it will be easier to harass this person out of the belt with bumping tactics. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1191
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:52:01 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Arcelian wrote: What? Why?
I read the entirety of the November release updates, didn't see anything that would cause a mining fleet to be "invulnerable" unless I missed something important.
Yes, you missed the words 'nearly' and 'all but the most dedicated' But yet Will it be 'nearly' or rather now easier to grief? Currently, the boosting orca, and let's face it if the guy has 10 ice miners chances are, there is an orca boosting, is located at a POS, citadel, or is on station. You can't see who is boosting but he is there. There may also be a command ship that is also boosting. Come November, those ships will have to be on grid and in close proximity to the mining vessels. Just start learning to bump the orca. That action will most likely frustrate the miner as he will have his ships set to orbit or keep the orca at range. Every bump will disturb the fleet. And it is far easier to hit an orca with a bump ship than an exhumed or mining barge. Additionally, there are no changed planned that impact the mining vessels so killing them will be no different. So how will November make it harder? If anything, it will be easier to harass this person out of the belt with bumping tactics. How effectively does a catalyst bump an Orca?
Doesn't the whole 'just bump the orca' assumption also assume that current gank characters can all just jump in a Machariel with perfect skills for the standard bump fit?
From what I see of a lot of gank characters from their killboards, catalyst is all they fly.
I'm sure there will be an increase in bumping, but not as simple as a switch of ships.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18314
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:56:24 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Arcelian wrote: What? Why?
I read the entirety of the November release updates, didn't see anything that would cause a mining fleet to be "invulnerable" unless I missed something important.
Yes, you missed the words 'nearly' and 'all but the most dedicated' But yet Will it be 'nearly' or rather now easier to grief? Currently, the boosting orca, and let's face it if the guy has 10 ice miners chances are, there is an orca boosting, is located at a POS, citadel, or is on station. You can't see who is boosting but he is there. There may also be a command ship that is also boosting. Come November, those ships will have to be on grid and in close proximity to the mining vessels. Just start learning to bump the orca. That action will most likely frustrate the miner as he will have his ships set to orbit or keep the orca at range. Every bump will disturb the fleet. And it is far easier to hit an orca with a bump ship than an exhumed or mining barge. Additionally, there are no changed planned that impact the mining vessels so killing them will be no different. So how will November make it harder? If anything, it will be easier to harass this person out of the belt with bumping tactics.
Come November you don't need the orca for boosts. |
Jenna Kyriel
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2016.10.18 20:15:47 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Nero Jove wrote:All good advice. Just hard to pick up and leave when you call a system home for two years. Fighting options in high security when he is an NPC corp are pretty limited. Say thanks to all the highsec carebears who cried so hard year after year so that CCP removed all options and made it possible to create practically ungankable mining fleets.
Are you COMPLAINING that EHP's are TO HIGH?
Silly, what are you, a CAREBEAR? Adapt and overcome, it's a numbers-game, one your little alliance of null-alt gankers should figure out right away and deal with.
Unless ofc you would rather go to the forums and whine to people that high-sec dwellers have made is TO HARD for you to suicide-gank them on a regular basis. If that's the case, I don't think you will be getting much sympathy, being some nameless alt in CODE after all.
@ OP - as others have made clear, you have two options:
Give in and move out.
Or...
Find some way to resist. I'd go for the suicide-strike his fleet option myself, but if you can't or won't do that, I am VERY SURE there are others who will gladly accept your ISK to get rid of his ships for you.
Another player has decided to contest your stuff. It's is not CCP's job to ensure fairness, that you get a fair piece of the riches - it's YOUR JOB to ensure that.
Or don't. I suspect it's all the same to the guy with 10 miner bots.
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
62
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Posted - 2016.10.18 20:48:07 -
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Jenna Kyriel wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Nero Jove wrote:All good advice. Just hard to pick up and leave when you call a system home for two years. Fighting options in high security when he is an NPC corp are pretty limited. Say thanks to all the highsec carebears who cried so hard year after year so that CCP removed all options and made it possible to create practically ungankable mining fleets. Are you COMPLAINING that EHP's are TO HIGH? Silly, what are you, a CAREBEAR? Adapt and overcome, it's a numbers-game, one your little alliance of null-alt gankers should figure out right away and deal with. Unless ofc you would rather go to the forums and whine to people that high-sec dwellers have made is TO HARD for you to suicide-gank them on a regular basis. If that's the case, I don't think you will be getting much sympathy, being some nameless alt in CODE after all.
Lol the visceral hatred is palpable with this one.
*Please learn to use the words to, too, and two before posting on the internet, thank you.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2928
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Posted - 2016.10.18 21:35:10 -
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Jenna Kyriel wrote: Are you COMPLAINING that EHP's are TO HIGH?
Silly, what are you, a CAREBEAR? Adapt and overcome, it's a numbers-game, one your little alliance of null-alt gankers should figure out right away and deal with.
Unless ofc you would rather go to the forums and whine to people that high-sec dwellers have made is TO HARD for you to suicide-gank them on a regular basis. If that's the case, I don't think you will be getting much sympathy, being some nameless alt in CODE after all.
Calm down miner. I never said I could not gank miners. Check my killboard, I obviously adapted. I just pointed out that the OP can not gank the bumper because all the whining locked him and all the people who can't even adapt to the simplest change out of the mechanic.
Project some more tears.
The buffs to EHP have actually quite an interesting effect. If the game forces you to adapt you may as well improve and not just compensate while your at it. So today I can gank a bigger range of ships than before the last EHP buff. There are already plans in the drawer for the next time, but I am just too lazy to implement them now. I am sure the next ganking nerf is just around the corner and will do the trick.
It is never too late to get a permit friend.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18315
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Posted - 2016.10.18 21:50:55 -
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Jenna Kyriel wrote: Another player has decided to contest your stuff. It's is not CCP's job to ensure fairness, that you get a fair piece of the riches - it's YOUR JOB to ensure that.
Would have been nice for CCP to follow this line of thought rather than spend 5 years nerfing pvp into the ground in highsec to keep miners safe. |
Alana Packham
Wardec Solutions
16
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Posted - 2016.10.18 22:18:12 -
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hmmm, Ima Wreckyou, Oppold area, code, multibox (possibly), ganker, spam dueller. (might be wrong maybe its 1 person and the others are another but who cares, its code, there is definitely a code multiboxer as part of that team).
Won't try to gank a tank even with the alts (or possible friend), so one of them spams duel requests until someone says yes.
If no one does they sit there and moan about people not duelling because they have no 'honor' (can't even spell the word properly, bloody foreigners).
Not even worth replying to, but if he gets on your nerves fly over to Minmater, hang around the Oppold area and after the ganks he (or the possible friend) sends an alt to clean up in an Orca, its called resuply truck or something similar.
KILL THAT ORCA
gank the gank lol
and please remember code only exist because some people still don't realise that skiffs are the only ships that miners should use in hi.
Its not that the Dev's have never been hi-sec miners, more that if they ever admitted it they'd be designing new pattern's in the dust as they sweep the car park. Would you employ someone who spends all day mining in hi?
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Alana Packham
Wardec Solutions
16
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Posted - 2016.10.18 22:42:42 -
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a quick point about hiring mercs.
Myself and my other half both multi-box, we have characters in most part of the game including hi-sec mining, this is something that a character in one of her mining corps received:
I am opening up diplomatic talks with your corp and need a POC within your corp ,someone who can talk on the corps behalf.
we have been offered 1 bil isk to war dec you to deny your indy operations. we have carried out our recces and are aware that you operate orca supported ining fleets with skiffs supported by charon.
if you check our killboard you will see that we are the most effective corp in our regions,
you as a corp have stepped on someones toes but as we are isk motivated we fell it is only fair to offer you the option to buy a potection policy ?
the policy covers -assists in wars against you -war decs on your behalf -asset, system denial -asset protection/ removal (citadel)
the cost of the policy is 1.5 bil with life time membership to our special blue standing list access to our int channel.
this was from an active merc corp that have multiple war dec's and a lot of members who do kill people, it just shows if you hire someone they will sell you out, scam you or just plain rip you off.
the misus answer was 'go ahead we get war decc'd a lot have a lot of alts and just leave corp if we want to use a toon in that corp'.
the war dec never came, mercs in hi sec are a joke.
Its not that the Dev's have never been hi-sec miners, more that if they ever admitted it they'd be designing new pattern's in the dust as they sweep the car park. Would you employ someone who spends all day mining in hi?
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pajedas
Special Activities Division
273
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Posted - 2016.10.18 23:16:33 -
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baltec1 wrote:Would have been nice for CCP to follow this line of thought rather than spend 5 years nerfing pvp into the ground in highsec to keep miners safe. I think the whole, "your tears fuel me" is lame and over used. That being said, you just filled a couple Orca's fuel tanks in HS.
I know you're a little slow but let me try to explain something to you. In all societies there are basically two groups of people. "The Haves and the Have Nots". Some of the "Haves" got to where they are by doing nothing. Like Paris Hilton for instance. However, the vast majority have worked to get there. For this discussion, we'll call them "Producers".
Which brings us to the other group, the "Have Nots". Unfortunately this group tends to yield unsavory bi-products, like you. The guy that is unable or unwilling to work and acquire goods and services. It's much easier to just go out and take it from the closest and weakest Producer you can find. Don't get me wrong, I can empathize with you. We've all felt like giving into our base (basic) desire. To want or need something so much that our impulse overwhelms our principles. See: "The exception rather than the rule."
Your quote up there Gåæ tells me the whole story. You've established such a pattern of taking from the "Haves" that you've become entitled. You honestly believe that you deserve what others have worked to accumulate. You can call it whatever you want, it doesn't change the facts.
*OP does not mine and does not own an Orca. *All references directed at baltec1 are limited to his, "in game" persona and are not meant hurt his little feelings. *Gankers are lazy.
Gÿà Mass Test Gÿà
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2928
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Posted - 2016.10.18 23:22:39 -
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Alana Packham wrote: Won't try to gank a tank even with the alts (or possible friend), so one of them spams duel requests until someone says yes.
If no one does they sit there and moan about people not duelling because they have no 'honor' (can't even spell the word properly, bloody foreigners).
Lol, by spaming you mean the one request I sent to some mad miner who told me to destroy "our base" but CONCORD protects us. So I challenged him and tried to get him to accept. He did not. So I wardeced them and the next day the ran 32 jumps into a starter system.
Also by all means, come and gank the Orca or the looter :-)
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2016.10.19 00:23:40 -
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pajedas wrote:baltec1 wrote:Would have been nice for CCP to follow this line of thought rather than spend 5 years nerfing pvp into the ground in highsec to keep miners safe. I think the whole, "your tears fuel me" is lame and over used. That being said, you just filled a couple Orca's fuel tanks in HS. I know you're a little slow but let me try to explain something to you. In all societies there are basically two groups of people. "The Haves and the Have Nots". Some of the "Haves" got to where they are by doing nothing. Like Paris Hilton for instance. However, the vast majority have worked to get there. For this discussion, we'll call them "Producers". Which brings us to the other group, the "Have Nots". Unfortunately this group tends to yield unsavory bi-products, like you. The guy that is unable or unwilling to work and acquire goods and services. It's much easier to just go out and take it from the closest and weakest Producer you can find. Don't get me wrong, I can empathize with you. We've all felt like giving into our base (basic) desire. To want or need something so much that our impulse overwhelms our principles. See: "The exception rather than the rule."Your quote up there Gåæ tells me the whole story. You've established such a pattern of taking from the "Haves" that you've become entitled. You honestly believe that you deserve what others have worked to accumulate. You can call it whatever you want, it doesn't change the facts. *OP does not mine and does not own an Orca. *All references directed at baltec1 are limited to his, "in game" persona and are not meant hurt his little feelings. *Gankers are lazy. This is why societies form the rule of law because without it producers move elsewhere to where there is the rule of law. Unfortunately this being a game for entertainment, the majority of the productive citizens have moved on to pastures greener and the have nots are now apparently ganking anything that moves.
Personally I would like to see a story in the News feed about the head of CONCORD being tried and shot for incompetence. Take Metropolis where the gankers are very active atm or Domain. The kills in Hi-sec are massively higher than in lo-sec. Ganking has become to cheap and easy and the gankers as you pointed out too entitled.
The criminals are on a massive spree and the police are completely useless.
No society can continue to operate with the levels of crime that are currently occurring in this game and have been occurring since the crime watch and the destroyers rebalance in Retribution, in December 2012. Then to kick miners in the guts again they made Ice mining into anomalies in June 2013.
So the miners income fell as the gankers got better organised, risk vs reward was busted for mining and industry and the people left.
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Penance Toralen
Compass Fox
19
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Posted - 2016.10.19 00:37:01 -
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baltec1 wrote:Jenna Kyriel wrote: Another player has decided to contest your stuff. It's is not CCP's job to ensure fairness, that you get a fair piece of the riches - it's YOUR JOB to ensure that.
Would have been nice for CCP to follow this line of thought rather than spend 5 years nerfing pvp into the ground in highsec to keep miners safe.
It would be really nice in pvp against miners was actually about "the stuff". But it never really about Tritanium, Pyerite, Mexallon or Isogen - but mundane hydrogen, oxygen, sodium and chloride for harvesting.
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.10.19 02:31:28 -
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pajedas wrote:baltec1 wrote:Would have been nice for CCP to follow this line of thought rather than spend 5 years nerfing pvp into the ground in highsec to keep miners safe. I think the whole, "your tears fuel me" is lame and over used. That being said, you just filled a couple Orca's fuel tanks in HS. I know you're a little slow but let me try to explain something to you. In all societies there are basically two groups of people. "The Haves and the Have Nots". Some of the "Haves" got to where they are by doing nothing. Like Paris Hilton for instance. However, the vast majority have worked to get there. For this discussion, we'll call them "Producers". Which brings us to the other group, the "Have Nots". Unfortunately this group tends to yield unsavory bi-products, like you. The guy that is unable or unwilling to work and acquire goods and services.
Lmaololololololol
ahah! aha! aha! (Wipes away tear)...
In all seriousness though, carebears are food.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5380
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Posted - 2016.10.19 02:42:10 -
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pajedas wrote:baltec1 wrote:Would have been nice for CCP to follow this line of thought rather than spend 5 years nerfing pvp into the ground in highsec to keep miners safe. I think the whole, "your tears fuel me" is lame and over used. That being said, you just filled a couple Orca's fuel tanks in HS. I know you're a little slow but let me try to explain something to you. In all societies there are basically two groups of people. "The Haves and the Have Nots". Some of the "Haves" got to where they are by doing nothing. Like Paris Hilton for instance. However, the vast majority have worked to get there. For this discussion, we'll call them "Producers". Which brings us to the other group, the "Have Nots". Unfortunately this group tends to yield unsavory bi-products, like you. The guy that is unable or unwilling to work and acquire goods and services. It's much easier to just go out and take it from the closest and weakest Producer you can find. Don't get me wrong, I can empathize with you. We've all felt like giving into our base (basic) desire. To want or need something so much that our impulse overwhelms our principles. See: "The exception rather than the rule."Your quote up there Gåæ tells me the whole story. You've established such a pattern of taking from the "Haves" that you've become entitled. You honestly believe that you deserve what others have worked to accumulate. You can call it whatever you want, it doesn't change the facts. *OP does not mine and does not own an Orca. *All references directed at baltec1 are limited to his, "in game" persona and are not meant hurt his little feelings. *Gankers are lazy.
Step away from Atlas Shrugged before you hurt yourself.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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pajedas
Special Activities Division
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Posted - 2016.10.19 02:59:04 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Step away from Atlas Shrugged before you hurt yourself. Sorry, I never saw it.
Gÿà Mass Test Gÿà
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