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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.11 09:10:03 -
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The release 118.9 has been deployed on October 11. Please use this thread for general feedback.
The 118.9 release brings an exciting overhaul of the graphic post-processing system improving the performance on all GPUs. We also get revamped market graphs and a variety of bug fixes. Additionally, blueprints for Command Burst charges are now available, allowing you to build the charges in anticipation of November's fleet boost revamp.
The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the patch notes.
To report issues, please use the thread 118.8 - Issues (PC). For Mac users, there is, as always, a thread on the 118.9 - Mac forums for discussion of this expansion.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
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Kell Taron
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.10.11 11:35:56 -
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The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Is the slider the only way to see the past prices? I would prefer to be able see the whole graph in 1 picture. |
JTK Fotheringham
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2016.10.11 11:36:26 -
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/me falls over.
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of WHers suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly lost. I fear something terrible has happened." |
13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.11 11:38:28 -
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So where is the button to revert to old market graphs? As a paying customer, that is the one I prefer.
The removal of browser is a terrible "feature". Also, where are my bookmarks for it? Hidden in a file somewhere I can get to?
Quote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug?
Breaking things is CCP's way
Jukebox removed.
Browser removed.
POSes going to be removed.
Its like they're going backwards.
Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
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Ivan Beer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.11 11:43:13 -
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not all the burst bpo's are available on the market, only the armor..... |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.11 11:47:49 -
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Ivan Beer wrote:not all the burst bpo's are available on the market, only the armor..... They aren't all in the same place, they will be spread across NPC space in appropriate places :)
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.10.11 11:49:45 -
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Kell Taron wrote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Is the slider the only way to see the past prices? I would prefer to be able see the whole annual graph in 1 picture.
Please use the slider underneath the market chart to change the time series. The image below should clarify this:
You can easily expand and shrink the the slider to change the displayed time series, you can also drag around the slider while keeping the amount of displayed days constant.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
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Jew Jew Binks
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:04:04 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Ivan Beer wrote:not all the burst bpo's are available on the market, only the armor..... They aren't all in the same place, they will be spread across NPC space in appropriate places :) if you could tell us where to find the mining bursts BPO would be much apreciated. i hope is not only in null
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Kell Taron
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:04:09 -
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You can easily expand and shrink the the slider to change the displayed time series, you can also drag around the slider while keeping the amount of displayed days constant.
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Oh cool, thanks. That works! |
Ivan Beer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:05:45 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Ivan Beer wrote:not all the burst bpo's are available on the market, only the armor..... They aren't all in the same place, they will be spread across NPC space in appropriate places :)
oh, ok. guess I will find those places later on today.... thank-you. |
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Khorvek
Colear Mining Retrieval and Distributing
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:05:50 -
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Im not sure about these new graphs. They look a little bit too much having gaps.
People talk about how eve is better than WoW. I still get one shotted undocking in a frigate if there's a WT thrasher outside. It looks eerily similar to getting one shotted in WoW battlegrounds by a x9 level player when you're x1-4 levels.
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Duke Garland
Solar Vista. The Anubis Accord
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:22:41 -
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Really awesome to "accidentially" forget the mentioning in the patch notes yet REMOVE THE IGB REGARDLESS of numerous complaints and pleas not to do this (or at least DELAY this "feature")!
GG ccp |
Arvyn Nomatsu
ACME HARDWARE
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:22:44 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:.....
The removal of browser is a terrible "feature". Also, where are my bookmarks for it? Hidden in a file somewhere I can get to?
Didn't see removing access to Bookmarks and browser in the patch notes there .... usual stealthy Nerf !
Had a few handy links that I was planning to copy and clutter up my out of game browser even more with ... are they lost now ?! |
Arvyn Nomatsu
ACME HARDWARE
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:32:16 -
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The Display Effects option "Asteroid Environments" seems to have stopped working.
Regardless of setting the cleaners need to some clean up all this messy dust every where !! |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:33:16 -
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way to go on killing the IGB and not putting that huge detail into patch notes so that everyone could save their bookmarks to their external browser ahead of time.
like wowzers ccp and you promised proper communication of huge changes ahead of time. not! |
ISD Thalack
ISD MERCURY
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Posted - 2016.10.11 12:53:56 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:way to go on killing the IGB and not putting that huge detail into patch notes so that everyone could save their bookmarks to their external browser ahead of time.
like wowzers ccp and you promised proper communication of huge changes ahead of time. not!
You can still retrieve your bookmarks, it just takes a tiny bit more effort.
Open up an explorer window, and navigate to the following folder:
%localappdata%\CCP\EVE\ it should auto-expand to
C:\Users\-your username-\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE
In this folder, locate the folder named similarly to where your EVE installation is. for example, if you installed eve at C:\EVE it will be named "c_eve_tranquility"
Under this folder, navigate to settings, Browser, and open the 'bookmarks.dat' file with WordPad (any text editor that understands unix newlines should work, such as Sublime Text 3, Notepad++, etc).
In this file you should see all your bookmarks , every few lines, each starts with S' and ends with a ' . It's not the cleanest of ways, but it should work.
ISD Thalack Dalhar
Captain - ISD Mercury
Interstellar Services Department
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dhunpael
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:00:40 -
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Removal of the IGB is giving problems in the wormhole comunity at this moment. We're in the middle of testing new solutions but have no backup if this fails This coupled with some CREST problems (rate limits) is putting us in a tight spot. |
Christopher Nolm
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:08:13 -
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Alternative to IGB features of Dotlan anyone? |
Borgum
FA-JIN
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:10:09 -
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"You can still retrieve your bookmarks, it just takes a tiny bit more effort."
"a tiny bit more effort" = "slight discomfort" = real pain
I used my browser every time I was playing EVE, CCP takes it away and it isn't even in the patch notes??
Also, those with only 1 monitor are going to have a great time switching windows to see needed information. |
Loki Vaako
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:21:28 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:So where is the button to revert to old market graphs? As a paying customer, that is the one I prefer. The removal of browser is a terrible "feature". Also, where are my bookmarks for it? Hidden in a file somewhere I can get to? Quote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Breaking things is CCP's way Jukebox removed. Browser removed. POSes going to be removed. Its like they're going backwards.
It's called evolution.
Change is good,
The browser was a handy feature but it lacked too many features it made it more of a headache than useful.
The new market graphs look amazing they just take a little getting used to.
Pos's are being changed to Citadels.
CCP removes features but they also replace them with new functions and features that often contain and build upon the removed stuff.
Citadels are far better than POS's, Chrome with the new CREST functions are better than the IGB and the market graphs are more streamlined.
Please also remember that your not the only
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FraXy
Sinister's Cage Did he say Jump
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:21:48 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Kell Taron wrote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Is the slider the only way to see the past prices? I would prefer to be able see the whole annual graph in 1 picture. Please use the slider underneath the market chart to change the time series. The image below should clarify this: [img]http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/70596/2/PriceHistorySelection.png[/img] You can easily expand and shrink the the slider to change the displayed time series, you can also drag around the slider while keeping the amount of displayed days constant.
No.
Easily would be having an option to set a default displayed time to show, but from 5 minutes right clicking just about everything that is not the case. Market items are set as 30 day default and any slider changes you make doesn't carry over to other items.
I don't know about the rest of the people trying to trade, but manually setting the time for ALL items whenever I feel like looking at different time displays is not what I would call intuitive and easy.
TL;DR:
Add back the drop-down box to universally change the time displayed by default and while you're at it allow the option to add custom times.
Thank you.
One man's junk is FraXy's choice of weapon to kill you with.
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Ken Evingod
Zero Point Galactic Holdings
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:33:16 -
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Since you guys don't seem to get much positive feedback in these threads:
1. The market refresh has improved a lot for me - moving between items could take several seconds before, now it seems much snappier.
2. As someone who works in finance, the new charts are great - very close to what I'm used to looking at (although personally I would have preferred Bollinger bands, I can see why you went with the Donchian channel). I also like how it preserves the chosen selection slider size when switching back and forth between items.
I did notice one small bug with the sliding selection on the graph; if you stretch it quickly all the way to the left, it will also pull the right edge of the selection slightly over to the left as well, which hides the most recent part of the graph. The same thing does not occur when stretching the slider from left to right instead. |
Nathan Rolk
The Corporate Tax Shelter
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:35:53 -
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Dear Developers,
i have never been active on forums. Neither in this nor other games. It just not my 'style'. So writing this here is a big thing (at least for me). I think the game is heading into a wrong direction on some ends. While introducing citadels - which might have been a great mechanic - and finally comeing up with features like the ghost fitting (yes that would have been your job - imho - from the first second) you on the other hand never get tired to break working and established things that make/made a smooth game. Here is my point(s): You are about to introduce the ongrid boost. There is no reason in a game like yours for such a thing like boosts, other than to create additional accounts that are PLEXed or otherwise payed for! Simply removing all boost would smoothy (re-)balance the game and give new players a little better chances over PVP attacks. However the idea of makeing it an active thing is another step in your plan to reduce offscreen or afk play (which is standing against your inherent interest to have more accounts subbed and thereby earn money). Where this might be a thing to make players venture more ISK and actively take part in PVP or PVE actions, it does not make sense for mining! The booster who stood in wormholes or in HS open for all maybe from that guy/corpee from the other timezone, becomes now obsolete and maybe (s)he cannot (lack of ISK, since charges cost) or simply doesn't want to PLEX his account anymore (boosting will be active while (s)he simply wants to live his live or sleep while the PC is on anfd his friends/customers are benefitting.
Adding, adding, adding - you do it busy as a bee. Old and new bugs mostly remain in the game, the reworking of modules and simply removing redundant stuff from the game hardly happens or slow down to almost zero. It comes to a point where the main game experience comes from negative feelings. Yes, EVE online should be hard and yes, even mining is a fight, but bugs and inapproriate gameplay should not be part of that!
Since i want to stay constructive here is my (unasked) feedback: Do not touch mining boosts. Make combatboost ongrid and maybe not lasting but without the charges (there should be no additional costs being involved). Rework Citadels so that they have to be upgraded from small to XL by using upgrade kits. Give Citadels the fuction to work as a fortress and manufacturing thing with perfect stats after upgrading several times (nobody really wants additional engineering platforms with >100 rig combinations). You want to make the game more accessible, right!?! Fix more bugs, we're directly or indirectly paying for the game - it should work properly (#ClearingCashOrGameWillCrash #wth? #DroneWindow #ShipNotControllabeAndInvisible #ModuleLag). It's fine that you removed the IGB, despite the fact that i.e. wormholers really need it, since - again - you, dear ladies and gentelmen, gave us no ingame tool to properly track wormhole connections for corpees and out-of-corp scouts. The functionality of a tool like tripwire and similar should be part of the game. It makes the game not less complex but more easy and accessible, after all more fun to play! Socializing should be an element that keeps players in the game, but not the only reason, really.
BTW: please send me a mail with my lost IGB bookmarks, thanks in advance! Nathan out. Love you much. CCPlease
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13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:42:09 -
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Loki Vaako wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:So where is the button to revert to old market graphs? As a paying customer, that is the one I prefer. The removal of browser is a terrible "feature". Also, where are my bookmarks for it? Hidden in a file somewhere I can get to? Quote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Breaking things is CCP's way Jukebox removed. Browser removed. POSes going to be removed. Its like they're going backwards. It's called evolution. Change is good, The browser was a handy feature but it lacked too many features it made it more of a hindrance than useful. The new market graphs look amazing they just take a little getting used to. Pos's are being changed to Citadels. CCP removes features but they also replace them with new functions and features that often contain and build upon the removed stuff. Citadels are far better than POS's, Chrome with the new CREST functions are better than the IGB and the market graphs are more streamlined. Please also remember that your not the only This is ofc only my opinion.
Change isn't good, things improving is good. Death is a change from a state which no one considers good, unless other factors come into play. That rhetoric is so tired and so backwards. Please stop using it if not for us than for your own sake.
If it was more hinderance than useful, people wouldn't use it and would prefer an OOG source. They didn't.
POSes function differently than citadels and I like how they function.
Show me what feature replaced jukebox which contains jukebox and builds on it. Good try.
Citadels are, for practical intent, copies of NPC stations. They're different from POSes, not better.
I don't find the market graphs any more streamlined. That's a buzzword anyway. I take off the wings of a plane to streamline it as well, you know. Since its now much more focused in design of being a tubular house than a flying machine. Streamline is not a word that contains any meaning.
As for boosts, since mid 2000s there have been combat and mining boosters in skill form to allow people to be better if they grouped together.
Rather, what you might say is that boost charges are a step in the wrong direction. On grid boost was something finally done right, as off grid was completely dumb.
Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
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Loki Vaako
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2016.10.11 13:57:19 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:Loki Vaako wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:So where is the button to revert to old market graphs? As a paying customer, that is the one I prefer. The removal of browser is a terrible "feature". Also, where are my bookmarks for it? Hidden in a file somewhere I can get to? Quote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Breaking things is CCP's way Jukebox removed. Browser removed. POSes going to be removed. Its like they're going backwards. It's called evolution. Change is good, The browser was a handy feature but it lacked too many features it made it more of a hindrance than useful. The new market graphs look amazing they just take a little getting used to. Pos's are being changed to Citadels. CCP removes features but they also replace them with new functions and features that often contain and build upon the removed stuff. Citadels are far better than POS's, Chrome with the new CREST functions are better than the IGB and the market graphs are more streamlined. Please also remember that your not the only This is ofc only my opinion. Change isn't good, things improving is good. Death is a change from a state which no one considers good, unless other factors come into play. That rhetoric is so tired and so backwards. Please stop using it if not for us than for your own sake. If it was more hinderance than useful, people wouldn't use it and would prefer an OOG source. They didn't. POSes function differently than citadels and I like how they function. Show me what feature replaced jukebox which contains jukebox and builds on it. Good try. Citadels are, for practical intent, copies of NPC stations. They're different from POSes, not better. I don't find the market graphs any more streamlined. That's a buzzword anyway. I take off the wings of a plane to streamline it as well, you know. Since its now much more focused in design of being a tubular house than a flying machine. Streamline is not a word that contains any meaning. As for boosts, since mid 2000s there have been combat and mining boosters in skill form to allow people to be better if they grouped together. Rather, what you might say is that boost charges are a step in the wrong direction. On grid boost was something finally done right, as off grid was completely dumb.
1) There is more than one definition of Streamlining. I personally have found the graphs too clunky so i like the new more streamlined view (no airplanes or wings were harmed in this comment which is the streamlining your referring to)
2) I didn't mention anything about jukebox (it was before my time) nor did i mention about boosts.
3) From my understanding Citadels are being expanded with features that will completely replace POS's
4) Where is the huge outrage of the IGB being removed i haven't seen any. |
Khan Wrenth
Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation
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Posted - 2016.10.11 14:06:05 -
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DevBlog wrote:Stargates would occasionally express their envy of dynamic objects by moving to a different position in their solar system after down This caused me to spit coffee all over my keyboard and desk. Thanks for that.
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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Ravcharas
Infinite Point Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.10.11 14:31:29 -
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The new market graph is awfully dreary. |
Angyel Beerens
Covert Bomb Squad
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Posted - 2016.10.11 14:45:25 -
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This community is hilarious. I'm not going to bother to go look up the date but CCP told everyone months ago "Hey guys in October the IGB is going away." Why during that time did you not pull your bookmarks and transfer them to another browser? Today IGB goes away and people are on here crying like they didn't know it was going to happen. And the WH folks, I'm sorry you lost your mapping software and stuff but I can't feel bad for you. You want to live in the wild UNCHARTED lands of wormhole space, now you have it. If there is a crutch that allows you to easily map and share WH's how is it any different then the rest of mapped out space? You wanted to live on the fringe, enjoy or move back to mapped space.
I tried to get into Eve off and on for years and just couldn't get hooked until this last time with a lot of the changes that were made in the last 6 months. Everything was better "in the old days" but if you really enjoy this game you should embrace changes that drive new people to playing. Without changes and new subs you won't have a game to play anymore. |
Marie Skjem
Signature Unknown
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Posted - 2016.10.11 14:52:49 -
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T3 cruiser look very strange with the new PP (and shaders?) on shader settings on high and look even stranger if setting shaders to medium.
Moreover the median dots in the new market graphs are displayed too low and jumping into the right position when putting the mouse cursor over them. |
13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.11 14:53:47 -
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Loki Vaako wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:Loki Vaako wrote:13kr1d1 wrote:So where is the button to revert to old market graphs? As a paying customer, that is the one I prefer. The removal of browser is a terrible "feature". Also, where are my bookmarks for it? Hidden in a file somewhere I can get to? Quote:The new market graph has no time selection! Is that intentional or a bug? Breaking things is CCP's way Jukebox removed. Browser removed. POSes going to be removed. Its like they're going backwards. It's called evolution. Change is good, The browser was a handy feature but it lacked too many features it made it more of a hindrance than useful. The new market graphs look amazing they just take a little getting used to. Pos's are being changed to Citadels. CCP removes features but they also replace them with new functions and features that often contain and build upon the removed stuff. Citadels are far better than POS's, Chrome with the new CREST functions are better than the IGB and the market graphs are more streamlined. Please also remember that your not the only This is ofc only my opinion. Change isn't good, things improving is good. Death is a change from a state which no one considers good, unless other factors come into play. That rhetoric is so tired and so backwards. Please stop using it if not for us than for your own sake. If it was more hinderance than useful, people wouldn't use it and would prefer an OOG source. They didn't. POSes function differently than citadels and I like how they function. Show me what feature replaced jukebox which contains jukebox and builds on it. Good try. Citadels are, for practical intent, copies of NPC stations. They're different from POSes, not better. I don't find the market graphs any more streamlined. That's a buzzword anyway. I take off the wings of a plane to streamline it as well, you know. Since its now much more focused in design of being a tubular house than a flying machine. Streamline is not a word that contains any meaning. As for boosts, since mid 2000s there have been combat and mining boosters in skill form to allow people to be better if they grouped together. Rather, what you might say is that boost charges are a step in the wrong direction. On grid boost was something finally done right, as off grid was completely dumb. 1) There is more than one definition of Streamlining. I personally have found the graphs too clunky so i like the new more streamlined view (no airplanes or wings were harmed in this comment which is the streamlining your referring to) 2) I didn't mention anything about jukebox (it was before my time) nor did i mention about boosts. 3) From my understanding Citadels are being expanded with features that will completely replace POS's 4) Where is the huge outrage of the IGB being removed i haven't seen any.
You know that a person can draw comparisons, yes?
Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
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