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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
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Posted - 2016.10.16 23:08:27 -
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Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2884
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Posted - 2016.10.16 23:11:01 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. Either bring a lie in State propaganda, or bring apologies and take your words back.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1430
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Posted - 2016.10.16 23:17:09 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. Either bring a lie in State propaganda, or bring apologies and take your words back. I try to ignore propaganda for the reason that it normally has atleast one lie sewn into it. No I don't have an example for that reason, I apologize for the way you took it, but I won't take my words back. I will however clarify by saying so doesn't amarr propaganda, Gallante, Matari, Blood raider, ect. They all do, it is part of the misinformation aspect of propaganda as a whole. Hope that clears my statement up. |
Jason Galente
Hole Riders Spaceship Samurai
812
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Posted - 2016.10.16 23:34:32 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. Either bring a lie in State propaganda, or bring apologies and take your words back.
"Only the merited shall rule", the great slogan, is actually a lie.
Tibus Heth became your ruler. That's evidence enough itself...
That statement is only true with him insofar as he was merited to drive a forklift.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
853
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Posted - 2016.10.17 03:36:18 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. Either bring a lie in State propaganda, or bring apologies and take your words back. What's the point? You will dismiss any evidence of the state's wrongdoing as propaganda and still expect an apology that nobody is willing to give, thus causing you to rally further (and more annoyingly) against us in every thread you find us in regardless of how relevant your concerns are to the topic at hand.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1720
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Posted - 2016.10.17 04:15:13 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Not every slaver cultist is Aldrith. Hey, and just what is that supposed to mean?
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
853
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Posted - 2016.10.17 04:18:13 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Not every slaver cultist is Aldrith. Hey, and just what is that supposed to mean? It looks fairly self explaining to me...
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2886
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Posted - 2016.10.17 04:56:18 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. Either bring a lie in State propaganda, or bring apologies and take your words back. What's the point? You will dismiss any evidence of the state's wrongdoing as propaganda and still expect an apology that nobody is willing to give, thus causing you to rally further (and more annoyingly) against us in every thread you find us in regardless of how relevant your concerns are to the topic at hand. I have asked it Ms. Vess, and not a troll, who would claim like I would 'dismiss any evidence of the state's wrongdoing as propaganda'. Your kind is the reason why civilized conversation on these forums is problematic. Please keep your 'speeches' to minimum.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1432
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Posted - 2016.10.17 05:05:14 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Not every slaver cultist is Aldrith. Hey, and just what is that supposed to mean? You would look at me any my kin and wish us to die where Luna would try to find some peaceful way to "convert these dirty hethens." Don't get me wrong, I won't convert if I had a gun to my head but I'm far more peacefully responsive to diplomacy than gunfire as a way to convert. It hasn't worked for centuries, why would it work now?
Only speaking for myself here.... |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1432
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Posted - 2016.10.17 05:11:25 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Tyrel Toov wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Just as state propaganda usually has one or two lies mixed in from the outside looking in. It's a matter of perspective. Either bring a lie in State propaganda, or bring apologies and take your words back. What's the point? You will dismiss any evidence of the state's wrongdoing as propaganda and still expect an apology that nobody is willing to give, thus causing you to rally further (and more annoyingly) against us in every thread you find us in regardless of how relevant your concerns are to the topic at hand. I have asked it Ms. Vess, and not a troll, who would claim like I would 'dismiss any evidence of the state's wrongdoing as propaganda'. Your kind is the reason why civilized conversation on these forums is problematic. Please keep your 'speeches' to minimum. Before some fight over this breaks out, I apologized for only half explaining my reasoning. Please keep that in mind. |
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1721
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Posted - 2016.10.17 05:13:07 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Not every slaver cultist is Aldrith. Hey, and just what is that supposed to mean? You would look at me and my kin and wish us to die where someone like Luna would try to find some peaceful way to "convert these dirty hethens." Don't get me wrong, I won't convert if I had a gun to my head but I'm far more peacefully responsive to diplomacy than gunfire as a way to convert. It hasn't worked for centuries, why would it work now? Only speaking for myself here.... Oh goodness, where do I begin? Do I even bother to begin? If I am the new poster-boy for violent, genocidal Amarr, then you haven't been paying attention.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Indira Harashani
Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle
124
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Posted - 2016.10.17 05:35:15 -
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I was always under the impression you are the poster-boy for Amarr hair care products, Lord Consort.
Lady Indira Harashani
Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1721
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Posted - 2016.10.17 05:44:40 -
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Well I suppose one has to look good whilst willing death and destruction upon the Minmatar people.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2484
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Posted - 2016.10.17 06:04:33 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:You would look at me and my kin and wish us to die where someone like Luna would try to find some peaceful way to "convert these dirty hethens." Don't get me wrong, I won't convert if I had a gun to my head but I'm far more peacefully responsive to diplomacy than gunfire as a way to convert. It hasn't worked for centuries, why would it work now?
Only speaking for myself here....
Uh ... Ms. Vess?
First, the Lord Consort isn't exactly a "kill them all" sort. At least, I don't think he is. He sees you as misguided, but ... not evil. Nothing like evil. He comes from the kind of martial tradition that finds a lot to admire in an enemy.
He's said before that he admires someone like you, who fights for principle, a lot more than someone like me, who fights for personal reasons only.
As for the Praefecta ... gods and spirits, is that how you think she talks about us? Or even thinks about us?
I mean, I'm a heathen too. I've sworn to die serving and protecting her, if need be. I don't think of it as a decision I made on a whim.
Considering our relative positions, I guess it's not surprising if you don't think very much of my judgment. But ...
... huh.
That actually kind of hurts. |
Jason Galente
Hole Riders Spaceship Samurai
816
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Posted - 2016.10.17 06:16:55 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Not every slaver cultist is Aldrith. Hey, and just what is that supposed to mean? You would look at me and my kin and wish us to die where someone like Luna would try to find some peaceful way to "convert these dirty hethens." Don't get me wrong, I won't convert if I had a gun to my head but I'm far more peacefully responsive to diplomacy than gunfire as a way to convert. It hasn't worked for centuries, why would it work now? Only speaking for myself here.... Oh goodness, where do I begin? Do I even bother to begin? If I am the new poster-boy for violent, genocidal Amarr, then you haven't been paying attention.
Nope, that's still Nauplius.
And I'd say you have a decently thick buffer there, between you and him. About as thick as your mullet.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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