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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2016.11.09 15:39:03 -
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I have now enabled the Salvation Angels (Angel Cartel) mining operations on Singularity. Have fun!
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Space Magician
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Inspector General
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2016.11.09 17:10:16 -
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I think this Thukker Mix Retriever wing got lost.
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CCP Paradox
1498
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Posted - 2016.11.09 17:20:24 -
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Not lost, they do wander to systems close by where they are settled. In this case, Doril is a few jumps away from one of their stations. Which means that mining ops can happen across Sovereignty so to speak.
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Space Magician
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Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Badfellas Inc.
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Posted - 2016.11.10 00:15:54 -
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are there any plans for Rouge drone mining ops? |
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.10 09:02:56 -
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Ncc 1709 wrote:are there any plans for Rouge drone mining ops?
Yes, but not for the Ascension Release.
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unimatrix0030
Viperfleet Inc. Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle
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Posted - 2016.11.10 11:34:06 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:As of today on Sisi: - You'll be-able to see the Mining Ops on your directional scanner, or probe them down.
- We've altered the coloration of the MIning Ops NPC standings bracket coloration to better follow player overview standards:
Red/Orage = Hostile White = Neutral Light Blue/Dark Blue = Friendly Does this mean that drifters in wh's also be on d-scan and probe-able?
No local in null sec would fix everything!
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Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
375
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Posted - 2016.11.11 00:13:06 -
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Any plans for Mordu's Legion ops?
"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.11.11 09:11:56 -
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Darenthul wrote:Any plans for Mordu's Legion ops? They are mercs
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
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Posted - 2016.11.11 17:03:15 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Darenthul wrote:Any plans for Mordu's Legion ops? They are mercs
They still use materials and have their own operations.. I don't think its a stretch to think they might go out and mine once in a blue moon. If any of these other pirate factions can do it, they can too.
"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker
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El Geo
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2016.11.12 20:30:52 -
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Will these NPC's flag attackers in some way making them shootable by players?
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Joten Koldani
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.11.13 14:48:53 -
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Do we ever take the time to sit back and appreciate how pretty EVE is? Good job CCP : ) Neat looking op!
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MechaLynx
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Posted - 2016.11.13 19:30:31 -
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Not sure if hauler spawns are working as intended. Me and a bunch of corpmates have been waiting for the hauler to come by for 8 Thukker Skiffs in X-M2LR for about and hour and 15 minutes now, spent a lot of time off the belt dscanning it to see if anything shows up, travelled to nearby Thukker stations in case a hauler was moving around, nothing at all.
If the hauler spawn rate is intended to lower the availability of the drops, just lower the drop rate of the strongboxes. If the ore holds of the npcs are full, they should either just warp off or have a hauler pop in almost guaranteed within 10 minutes. Much better than just waiting around forever for something that might never happen.
Also, the skiffs seem to be trying to cycle their strip miners and they're shutting off - I'm guessing this means their ore holds are full (which they would be for about an hour now, since I noticed) or they're shortcycling them. Any official word on whether they do that? |
MechaLynx
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Posted - 2016.11.13 22:39:44 -
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By the way, since it seems all barges are doing the same game with their strip miners, are you adjusting their mining rate by modulating the duty cycle of their strip miners? If so, I'd rather you gave them mining penalties instead. At the EVE Vegas presentation you said you'd like PVE skills to translate to PVP skills, but here, we get this very misleading behavior - are they bugged? Are their holds full and they're still trying to cycle their strip miners waiting for the hauler? Are they trying to avoid mining the roids? I agree that PVE skills should translate to PVP, but this is the opposite of what would happen in PVP unless all the barges were bait at the same time (in which case they wouldn't have 2 strip miners most likely).
I know you probably want to keep the complexity of the AI down so that server-side resources are consumed at a minimum for things like this, but if you could make the AI on the npc miners a tad more sophisticated, so there is actual behavior to observe (such as them mining different roids instead of seeing packs of 3 on the same one, dancing back and forth as they keep the roid at the same range, or moving towards where the hauler will land once they're done) it would be far deeper. It's good that the response fleets are challenging, but this is a good opportunity to not make this another throwaway PVE site experience, that might seem obsolete by mid-December (like what happened with the dailies). |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.14 01:02:55 -
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Out of curiosity, do you lose standing if you shoot at them?
My Caldari and Amarr standing is very high and I don't wanna jinx that by shooting friendly mining ops.
Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them.
This is the law
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MechaLynx
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Posted - 2016.11.14 02:08:54 -
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elitatwo wrote:Out of curiosity, do you lose standing if you shoot at them?
My Caldari and Amarr standing is very high and I don't wanna jinx that by shooting friendly mining ops.
From what we've noticed, you do, but only by shooting at destroying the barges or industrial - the loss is minimal, I'd say easily fixed by doing a couple l3s or something, probably not even that much (it's 0.1% for me). |
MechaLynx
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Posted - 2016.11.14 20:16:09 -
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It would help if we had a few more details on what is the expected behavior in these npc mining fleets, so we can identify possible bugs. For example:
- are they supposed to actually shortcycle their strip miners/mining lasers?
- is the hauler supposed to warp off after collecting the ore?
- is it normal to have a gimped response wing? (such as 3 cruisers and a frig instead of the full cruiser wing)
amongst possibly other things |
Circumstantial Evidence
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Posted - 2016.11.15 17:08:50 -
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Why do the empire mining corps mining ships, have bounties? It does not seem necessary. it may be enough that they CAN be shot, and a choice players would make without extra impetus. [Lore explanation?] Why would CONCORD place bounties on highsec mining operations by Ducia Foundry, for example? I expected to see bounties only on the "pirate" factions mining operations.
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Skyler Hawk
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
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Posted - 2016.11.15 19:08:21 -
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Circumstantial Evidence wrote:Why do the empire mining corps mining ships, have bounties? It does not seem necessary. it may be enough that they CAN be shot, and a choice players would make without extra impetus. [Lore explanation?] Why would CONCORD place bounties on highsec mining operations by Ducia Foundry, for example? I expected to see bounties only on the "pirate" factions mining operations.
If you need an RP explanation, just pretend that rival NPC mining corps have issued the bounties to encourage capsuleers to stamp out their competition. |
Rioste Ambraelle
The Draconis Combine Cohortes Triarii
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Posted - 2016.11.15 23:34:58 -
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Over an hour now and no hauler spawn. I guess these ventures have what, 100,000 m3 cargo and a civilian mining laser. Last spawn we found took about 45 minutes and dropped one metal scrap. Ummm.....CCP this is not fun. |
Gugutka
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:45:00 -
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What are their names?
Only Ducia and Poksu or? |
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:01:12 -
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MechaLynx wrote:elitatwo wrote:Out of curiosity, do you lose standing if you shoot at them?
My Caldari and Amarr standing is very high and I don't wanna jinx that by shooting friendly mining ops. From what we've noticed, you do, but only by shooting at destroying the barges or industrial - the loss is minimal, I'd say easily fixed by doing a couple l3s or something, probably not even that much (it's 0.1% for me).
Thanks! That was what I was looking for.
And my first impression from thee live server from last night:
Somewhere in Stain an asteroid belt had a npc mining fleet going. After assembling a nice gang to investigate we were observing the following:
- 6x True Sansha Skiffs mining lots of ore
- 6x True Sansha Skiffs move from asteroid to asteroid like an isboxer account
- after 37 minutes of watching this mining op, a bestower warps in and slowboats from Skiff to Skiff
A brave saber pilot drops a bubble on 4x Skiffs, 2x Skiff warp of, just like regular nullsec bear miner. Killing 4x Skiffs is hard work but at least they forgot they have a drone-bay, just like regular nullbear.
The bestower drops ore and scrap metal. The skiffs from ore and explode with a nice bang.
The "revenge" gang warps in and seem to make good target calling.
Result: Some ore and less than 5m isk in bounty - almost worth the time.
Blitzing result from today:
Observe mining op. Observe mining op for a long time. Bestower warps in. Kill Bestower like regular bestower with a human pilot or it will escape. 5x mining barge warp away like kittens.
Once the bestower goes down, warp away and get hauler. Collect ore and wait for the next npc mining op to mine for you.
Gun mining, easy mode.
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Joten Koldani
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:25:16 -
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3 gurista haulers down. Woo!
So far, nothing but scraps and ore : (
Am I doing it wrong? |
MechaLynx
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Posted - 2016.11.17 01:31:21 -
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Joten Koldani wrote:3 gurista haulers down. Woo!
So far, nothing but scraps and ore : (
Am I doing it wrong?
Nope, the strongboxes don't drop every time. |
Xykyc Hukuc
Elite pilots Project.Mayhem.
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Posted - 2016.11.17 14:56:28 -
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Like seriously whats the point of this? Why add content which does not bring anything of a value and is super complicated to complete? |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1472
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Posted - 2016.11.17 22:16:35 -
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Xykyc Hukuc wrote:Like seriously whats the point of this? Why add content which does not bring anything of a value and is super complicated to complete?
It does bring a lot, you just cannot see it.
Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them.
This is the law of ship progression!
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.22 10:30:51 -
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The first NPCs that you can combat probe down |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory Peoples United Republic Empire
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Posted - 2016.11.22 11:10:13 -
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killed teen blood raider haulers three strongbox three empty . |
DaOpa
Static Corp
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Posted - 2016.11.23 14:32:38 -
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Looks like the Arbitrator Attack range is bugged out, its hitting at 200KM out with lasers.
Heres a video clip
Seems like a bug right? Should I bug report it? What do ya think?
Anyone else notice any weird range attacks from other NPC groups? I have been doing the amarr guys only at the moment.
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1951
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Posted - 2016.11.24 09:30:26 -
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DaOpa wrote:Looks like the Arbitrator Attack range is bugged out, its hitting at 200KM out with lasers. Heres a video clipSeems like a bug right? Should I bug report it? What do ya think? Anyone else notice any weird range attacks from other NPC groups? I have been doing the amarr guys only at the moment. I've had Caldari Navy Faction NPC 'wreck' me with blasters from like 300+ kilometers on Tranquility.
Such things like damping from 100+ kilometers from Serpentis T1 cruiser in lvl4 missions
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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knoba knoba
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.11.24 23:53:11 -
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so looks like arbitrator crusiers are making dmg even at 10k km form them ????
"Working as inteded" or just another bug ????
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