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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:26:00 -
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Kasidis wrote:Malcanis wrote:Kasidis wrote:Altez Rawina wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all. I love how all you people saying that think anyone cares It is going to be a PS3 exclusive and it is going to stay that way... For a year, anyway. After that I wouldn't be surprised to see a PC port released (not like it would be hard to port it to the PC) Dream on... CCP takes forever to do anything. If we even do see a PC port (I highly doubt it) it won't be out until AT LEAST 2014 (release of the PS4)...
There's no great technical challenge in porting a game created with the UT3 engine to the PC. Sony have bought themselves a year of PS3 exclusivity, but there's nothing to stop CCP'd Dust team spending that year preparing a PC port, and every incentive for them to do so.
(Also, CCP aren't doing the Dust dev work. Their chinese merc contractors are.)
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Ledain Moruse
Alien Ship Builders Caedite Eos
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:01:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Many already agreed, im doing the same. Even if i have a xbox360 myself, shooters = PC, that is all.
EDIT is saying: While console love boys and girls may say, who cares that we are saying this. They do care sooner or later, marketing would be doing a fail job if they do not watch the feedback on the console only decision closely.
Im going to take a educated guess and say, that 1/4th of the possible customers will not buy Dust514.
That is the ppl like me and many others stating, no pc no play.
To ignore that fact, would be a obvious marketing desaster for anyone with 5th grade math knowledge.
Good night, good fight! |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:10:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:Update on Tuesday, January 3:[/b]
Scams involving DUST514 beta keys are not allowed. Much like EVE Online accounts, the DUST514 beta keys are non transferrable and selling them, or offering to sell them is thus prohibited. what the heck did you think was going to happen? did you think people were going to play nice with this? this is EvE Online!!! |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:16:00 -
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Rash Action wrote:Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
That's right keep the crybabies off my battlefield! |
BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:23:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:hmm. there must be a way how to suicide gank dusties from space.
Driving motherships into large, stationary objects is not without precedent in the eve universe........
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Uthgood Furfoot
Plan-It Xpress
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:38:00 -
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attention CCP.....
have 4 active accounts (6 computers to choose from in household to run EVE on) have 3 PS3's in the house to run Dust on.....
PICK ME!!!!
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:41:00 -
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Harriet Hargot wrote:From all Australians.
Thanks a bunch.
We do love being ignored.
if you can,t ignore customers ,you don,t work at CCP We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |
Romeo Deluxe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:15:00 -
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Roga Dracor wrote: Count me in as a paying Eve customer who bought a PS3 JUST for Dust 514! Hope to see ya all on the fields of mayhem...
Ahhh, the fields of mayhem.
Dust will be a gateway drug for the consoleers. |
Red Warclaw
XMark Initiative Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:18:00 -
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I have two eve accounts where both are registered with the same e-mail address. Will I be allowed to have 2 accounts in DUST514 even if I only have one e-mail address? I applied for beta access under each account.
PS: I also bought a PS3 just for DUST514. I'm excited!
Thanks! |
Raze Zindonas
Asgard. Exodus.
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:25:00 -
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when are the keys being handed out or "drawn"? |
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Noroswen
Imperial Collective
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:50:00 -
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No beta key no play... THAT is all.... |
Jake Calmelat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:03:00 -
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Noroswen wrote:No beta key no play... THAT is all....
+20 |
Nova Garsk
Deep Impact Inc
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:09:00 -
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Just recently got a PS3 (and 40" LED), hoping for a 1080p release. Signed up and good to go. |
Zylla
DSC inc RED Citizens
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:09:00 -
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Wonder if they'll get the message when only 40 people sign up. I'm with everybody else, I'll play when it comes to a PC near me. |
Jethro Campbell
Correct Horse Battery Staple
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:18:00 -
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Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:Nur AlHuda wrote:Why i would buy ps3 just for single game when i can nuke them from orbit :P
Planetary kills : 1-5 Shooting down full merc barge priceless... When can we buy skill books for Orbital Bombardment?
Exactly.
If I cannot participate without buying a $300 child's toy, I'm afraid I will have to nuke from orbit every last Dustie I can detect.
Period.
" Sorry about that factory of your's sport, but it was infested with dust mites." |
Jethro Campbell
Correct Horse Battery Staple
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:25:00 -
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Kasidis wrote:
My main point is HTFU, stop whining, and deal with it....
Oh, I most certainly will.
I welcome the opportunity to bring nuclear grief down on the dust bunnies. I really want to help them HTFU.
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Vyncent Darlandra
Solaris Project Border World Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.04 02:52:00 -
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I'm somewhat confused by everyone so upset at the beta being only open to English speakers. Doesn't it make it a lot easier for everyone involved to keep the standard method of communication in one language? With all due respect to every language out there, but would I wrong to assume that more EVE players know English than any other language? Just my two cents. I'm signed up and ready to go, never had much of an enthusiasm for my PS games, but this is gonna get me goin again.
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Zeigfryd Omegas
Seraphim Initiative
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Posted - 2012.01.04 03:37:00 -
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Quote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Sorry to burst your PC-centric bubble, but they aren't trying to cater to PC gamers for Dust 514 because they think it'd take players from Eve online. I don't understand why you are all being such dimwitted reactionary bigots, declaring that "Oh, this'll kill CCP," and the like. Oh wait, I exactly know why, you're elitist, long time Eve players that are scared that your precious game is changing and growing beyond your ability or willingness to access the new parts of the game. You know what you should do? Deal with it, because what CCP is trying to do is unprecedented, and while I will gripe and critique about technical mishaps that might or will happen with Dust 514, I stand by the Dust 514 project because of the vision they have.
"Oh no! Our PC only game universe is reaching out to different gamers." Do you know of the gameplay possibilities this will bring? The massive influx of new blood and ideas will only enrich the universe of Eve including the obviousness that ground combat creates an entirely new level of depth to the Eve experience. Before you start griping at CCP's attempt to break the mold of the relationship between games and gaming genres, do some research and figure out how much work they're doing and what they see the future of gaming to be, and maybe you won't lag behind and become an anachronism to the video gaming industry and see the immense opportunities Dust 514 yields. |
Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic Holy Empire of The Unshaven
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:03:00 -
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Man, 10 days after the original post and ONLY 16 pages.
I can remember back when threads blew up to 16 pages in under 10 minutes back before CCP pi_ssed everybody off and Hillmar dared them to quit.
Hello??? CCP??? You there??
Does the IN-activity of this thread tell you how much LACK of interest there is in DUST for the community as a whole?
It should.
Personally, I couldn't care less about Dust, no matter the platform. I ALREADY pay CCP WAY too much for WAY to little of a game.
Sign up for Dust BETA?? That offer actually did give me a good chuckle. I mean, I ALEADY play in one CCP Beta, and it's not even that good, it's called: EVE. I guess I could try one of their products for free..... but, I would have to actually believe they are going to make something out of Dust when they have already made such a mess out of Eve. Oh, and having a PS3 would help, but, I am NOT going to buy a PS3 for ONE game. Sorry CCP, the money-well that I have been for you for going on 8 years is starting to dry up for you. You SHOULD be concerned about that, but I KNOW you're not.
I don't know about the "humbler" part Hillmar promised, but we are already at the "smaller" part of CCP; and it looks like its getting even smaller every day.
Peace all.
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war't0g
The Rising Blade
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:37:00 -
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Ive been around Eve for years and suffice it to say that trolls have long since killed the horse yet somehow manage to continue beating those dry bones about every groundbreaking development in the game... Seriously, you dont have to play Eve if you feel that negatively toward it. Go play WOW.. or Frogger...
I would totally have been up for beta testing this game if I had known about this thread sometime before today.
So you really dont like the idea of Dust 514 being available only on PS3 (for now)? Then GTFO of the thread and stop wasting bandwidth. Go cry to Microsoft for being a bunch of jerkweeds about the technology. CCP didnt have to give us the opportunity to get in on this game at all for BETA...
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ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:41:00 -
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Zeigfryd Omegas wrote:Quote:no PC - no play.
that is all. Sorry to burst the PC-centric bubble, but CCP they thinks Dust 514 being on the PC would take players from Eve online. It's pretty scary to me, as a newcomer to this community, who is excited about Dust 514 to find that some think that "Oh, this'll kill CCP," and the like.Your game is changing and growing beyond the willingness some of you have to access these new areas of growth. You'll need to find a way to grapple with it because what CCP is trying to do is unprecedented, and while I will gripe and critique about technical mishaps that might or will happen with Dust 514, I stand by the Dust 514 project because of the vision they have. "Our PC only game universe is reaching out to different gamers." Do you know of the gameplay possibilities this will bring? The massive influx of new blood and ideas will only enrich the universe of Eve including the obviousness that ground combat creates an entirely new level of depth to the Eve experience. CCP is attempting to break the mold of the relationship between games and gaming genres, you should do some research and figure out how much work they're doing and what they see the future of gaming to be, and maybe you won't fall prey to becoming an anachronism to the video gaming industry and see the immense opportunities Dust 514 can yield. As the Deputy Director of Seraphim Initiative, I am apparently part of a minority that sees the potential of the immense contribution that both Eve and Dust players can bring to the Eve world. In an interview with Magvets, I stressed the need for modesty and humbleness for the experience that the Eve community has, as a community that stands apart from other gaming communities, but so far, I've been shown that I overestimated the maturity, opportunism, and tenacity of the Eve community, and if this is a representation of the welcome that FPS newcomers to New Eden will see when Dust 514 releases, and it will release, I see dark times ahead for us. As a gaming community, we need to rally together, call CCP out on bad calls, but embrace change, as that is the only way to prosper, for CCP financially, and therefore your core game, Eve Online, and the gaming industry as a whole.
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Aegis Stormborn
Trauma Ward Free Beer.
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:43:00 -
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Ledain Moruse wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
Many already agreed, im doing the same. Even if i have a xbox360 myself, shooters = PC, that is all.
Cool story bro, but there is plenty of actual data out there stating otherwise.
Let's take a look at Call of Duty Black Ops Sales by gaming platform. (COD Black Ops is the highest selling COD title to date and I believe COD is the most successful FPS gaming series but I didn't actually check that, I think we can all agree it's in the top 2 or 3).
PC Sales: 1.32 million PS3 Sales: 11.23 million XBOX Sales: 13.25 million
We can clearly see that console sales outpaced PC sales in our example by about 18.5 to 1. Even if you want to get technical and disregard your argument of console vs PC and just call it PS3 vs. PC you are still at an 8.5 to 1 sales rate.
Ledain Moruse wrote:EDIT is saying: While console love boys and girls may say, who cares that we are saying this. They do care sooner or later, marketing would be doing a fail job if they do not watch the feedback on the console only decision closely.
No we don't care, and CCP doesn't either because they have probably taken a look at some actual data as we just did and saw that consoles are the way to go regardless of whether you personally like them or not.
Ledain Moruse wrote:Im going to take a wild completely uneducated guess and say, that 1/4th of the possible customers will not buy Dust514.
Fixed it for you.
Ledain Moruse wrote:That is the ppl like me and many others stating, no pc no play.
Again, you can whine all you want. It's not going to change anything.
Ledain Moruse wrote:To ignore that fact, would be a obvious marketing desaster for anyone with 5th grade math knowledge.
Good night, good fight!
I'd be willing to bet you don't know the first thing about marketing seeing as you couldn't do some very simple market research that would show you that your premise is completely off base. Bonus points for misspelling disaster while trying to suggest that someone with a different viewpoint is lacking some basic knowledge from grade school.
One last thing before I GN and GF.
There are around 60,000 planets in the EVE universe. Even if you take out the ones that aren't theoretically able to have mercs on them you are left with over 40,000 planets. If I recall correctly the most people ever on Tranquility at once was around 60,000. So even on a good day, you only have about 1.5 people per planet. Pretty sure you can't fight yourself, as it would ruin the gaming experience. This thing has to be on PS3 (or XBOX but they wouldn't do it) in order to have a big enough player base to fill the planets and make it work.
TL:DR
If you do a little bit of research or use a little bit of deductive reasoning and common sense you can figure out that not only will putting DUST on the PS3 not kill the game, it is the only way it could work.
GN
GF |
Terra Mikael
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.04 04:44:00 -
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Why even release on PS3? PS4 is widely believed to be released in the late 2012 to mid 2013 (pretty much every sony console has been released 6 years apart from the next, PS3 was introduced in 2006)
If eve was released as a console game it would have been shelved long ago. Surely you must uderstand that releasing on a console means it will be a short lived portion of the universe...but then again your visions have always been short term, CCP...
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:00:00 -
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Terra Mikael wrote:Why even release on PS3? PS4 is widely believed to be released in the late 2012 to mid 2013 (pretty much every sony console has been released 6 years apart from the next, PS3 was introduced in 2006)
Why limit yourself to early adopters? PS3 has an established playerbase.
Terra Mikael wrote:If eve was released as a console game it would have been shelved long ago. Surely you must uderstand that releasing on a console means it will be a short lived portion of the universe...but then again your visions have always been short term, CCP... Considering how incredibly different the gameplay is between dust and eve, noting that one would probably have failed on a particular platform has no relevance whatsoever to the other. You may as well assert that fish are flawed because dogs can't survive underwater for long periods of time.
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mikey1877
House of the Occult
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:02:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:no PC - no play.
that is all.
needed to be said again |
Purpleshadez
Heimr BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:04:00 -
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\o/ PS3 updated and fingers crossed..
hope all this waiting worth it. |
ROD04
The GreyWolf Paradigm
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:16:00 -
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anyone know if they started the beta yet? or at least know when they will start to release it |
Kasidis
Noble Company
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:24:00 -
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Sylthi wrote:Man, 10 days after the original post and ONLY 16 pages.
I can remember back when threads blew up to 16 pages in under 10 minutes back before CCP pi_ssed everybody off and Hillmar dared them to quit.
Hello??? CCP??? You there??
Does the IN-activity of this thread tell you how much LACK of interest there is in DUST for the community as a whole?
It should.
Personally, I couldn't care less about Dust, no matter the platform. I ALREADY pay CCP WAY too much for WAY to little of a game.
Sign up for Dust BETA?? That offer actually did give me a good chuckle. I mean, I ALEADY play in one CCP Beta, and it's not even that good, it's called: EVE. I guess I could try one of their products for free..... but, I would have to actually believe they are going to make something out of Dust when they have already made such a mess out of Eve. Oh, and having a PS3 would help, but, I am NOT going to buy a PS3 for ONE game. Sorry CCP, the money-well that I have been for you for going on 8 years is starting to dry up for you. You SHOULD be concerned about that, but I KNOW you're not.
I don't know about the "humbler" part Hillmar promised, but we are already at the "smaller" part of CCP; and it looks like its getting even smaller every day.
Peace all.
I know I could be ignoring stupid posts like this, but I feel I must point out their idiocy...
As I said in my post on page 15, people are acting like CCP is only trying to target the EvE community with Dust. The EvE community isn't the world. Even if no EvE player buys Dust (which isn't going to happen) they will still get customers who DO NOT PLAY EVE. There are 55.5 million PS3s and even if 100,000 end up buying it, that will be a success. The FPS market is dominated by consoles (as pointed out by someone above me) so it is only logical to take advantage of that. Xbox is crap and refused Dust so PS3 was the only other option.
As for the comment about this thread not turning into a threadnaught, why is that relevant? There are other websites on the internet aside from the EvE-O foums
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Jasomon
Iynx Teledyne Armory The Chogo Ri Commonwealth
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Posted - 2012.01.04 05:48:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Keatro wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:asking myself about ccp resources applied to this beta consolecrap and are taken away from flying in space EVE to go bughunting when that crap goes live
Negative nancy. CCP have stepped up their game, and people still act like Christmas grinches. The dust team has always been the same, and will stay the same when the beta goes live. still resources taken away from EVE,for something not needed ,its not about spaceships!!!
No resources have been taken away from EVE. CCP cancelled their upcoming Vampire: masquerade MMO to put all their focus on EVE and DUST |
Galian Kile
Knights of Eden
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Posted - 2012.01.04 06:28:00 -
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Kasidis wrote:Sylthi wrote:Man, 10 days after the original post and ONLY 16 pages.
I can remember back when threads blew up to 16 pages in under 10 minutes back before CCP pi_ssed everybody off and Hillmar dared them to quit.
Hello??? CCP??? You there??
Does the IN-activity of this thread tell you how much LACK of interest there is in DUST for the community as a whole?
It should.
Personally, I couldn't care less about Dust, no matter the platform. I ALREADY pay CCP WAY too much for WAY to little of a game.
Sign up for Dust BETA?? That offer actually did give me a good chuckle. I mean, I ALEADY play in one CCP Beta, and it's not even that good, it's called: EVE. I guess I could try one of their products for free..... but, I would have to actually believe they are going to make something out of Dust when they have already made such a mess out of Eve. Oh, and having a PS3 would help, but, I am NOT going to buy a PS3 for ONE game. Sorry CCP, the money-well that I have been for you for going on 8 years is starting to dry up for you. You SHOULD be concerned about that, but I KNOW you're not.
I don't know about the "humbler" part Hillmar promised, but we are already at the "smaller" part of CCP; and it looks like its getting even smaller every day.
Peace all.
I know I could be ignoring stupid posts like this, but I feel I must point out their idiocy... As I said in my post on page 15, people are acting like CCP is only trying to target the EvE community with Dust. The EvE community isn't the world. Even if no EvE player buys Dust (which isn't going to happen) they will still get customers who DO NOT PLAY EVE. There are 55.5 million PS3s and even if 100,000 end up buying it, that will be a success. The FPS market is dominated by consoles (as pointed out by someone above me) so it is only logical to take advantage of that. Xbox is crap and refused Dust so PS3 was the only other option. As for the comment about this thread not turning into a threadnaught, why is that relevant? There are other websites on the internet aside from the EvE-O foums
I agree. I had this same discussion with a friend of mine when MW3 got released. 10% of their sales was PC. The other 90% WAS CONSOLES!!!!!!
So yes, this is a good move on CCP's part to expand their market horizons towards the console customer base. |
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