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Jones Beach
Bagel and Lox
2
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:04:36 -
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I simply cant understand ccp sometimes - you went from an easy to see, easy to use skill queue and character page to something that is overly complex and so poorly designed as to almost be unusable - or more accurately unreadable. Please - just break out the skill page and the skill queue into separate windows. Also allow for resizing of the fonts. As it is now the fonts are so small as to make it extremely difficult to see. And no - this is not another you will get used to it in time issue. Cramming everything into one window to the point where you had to decrease font size to make everything fit - clearly makes things more difficult to read for those with small monitors or less then perfect eyesight. Its not rocket science - just common sense. |
Mi Shui
Archangels Inc. End of Natural Lifetime
3
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:05:21 -
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I used to turn off music (they just not go fine with PVP chatting), and now what, you ask me to mute the voice ? |
GoHa RED
vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:13:45 -
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UX team seems to be unfamiliar with the game. they do "beatuification" instead of real usability. Really, really bad usability decisions: Obvious things overlooked, uncomfortable dialogs introduced.
New voice is nothing. Honestly, I would never start playing the game that speak such a voice.
CCP, you are loosing the game.
I see no good changes. I see bad and very unfortunate changes.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
2020
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:18:22 -
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Jones Beach wrote: Its not rocket science - just common sense.
You are in the wrong place for that. CCP will ignore the complaints for several days, then ask you to get used to not being able to read the skill window, and having no idea how many SP are invested in a skill. Not to mention the busy and jumbled presentation.
Then, in 3 months time when there are only a couple of people still complaining about it, they will say that apart from these 2 guys everyone else loves not being able to read their skill page, and having less information than they used to have.
CCP are a joke.
Its always the little things like this, that should be common sense, that makes me the maddest.
Every little papercut, every little change that replaces a working feature with something that looks nice but doesnt do as good a job, and that no one asked for;
The new inventory The new camera The new map The new d-scan The docking animation etc.
,,,makes me actually glad to know that EVE is dying.
Im beyond telling CCP that their obviously stupid design ideas should be changed. Keep them. Keep the game. I have no faith that there is any competent direction left at CCP.
RIP. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
581
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:18:28 -
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Worked for hours on my pilot picture, now when i open the character sheet i get a generic image?
Before when i opened the character sheet to look at something my crafted picture was there, part of the regular flow of what i was doing when i accessed the character sheet. Now, i have to take another step (clicking my name) i'll not be taking because it doesnt occur naturally as i play the game.
Before: organically while playing game occasionally get to see my enlarged portrait.
Now: Will not see my portrait unless i take a non-nonsensical extra step just to see the image.
Requesting you change the image at the top of the page to the one i made.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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GeeBee
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
125
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:27:24 -
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+1 New Voice is bad Old Voice is good.
How about giving us access to put our own voicepacks in?
But I had the same request with the icon's and we're stuck with them so we're probably stuck with this uninspired voice pack as well. #MakeCCPGreatAgain |
Archelais
Noobsauces
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:28:03 -
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Wow the new character sheet is horrible... How can I tell how many skill points until my next level? Or how many skill points I have even devoted to that skill? Don't fix something that isn't broke. How many man hours did it take them to redo the character sheet only to **** off everyone. I know its meant to aid new players but I honestly don't see how this is helping anyone. |
Admiral Zander
Void Protectorate The Dominion Empire
3
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:30:45 -
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Can't stand the "WERP Drive Active" sound.
It's "WARP" Not "WERP"! |
GeeBee
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
125
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:39:01 -
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Admiral Zander wrote:Can't stand the "WERP Drive Active" sound.
It's "WARP" Not "WERP"!
to me sounds like shes talking through a toilet roll into a tin can. |
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team
92
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:55:42 -
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Don't like character sheet portrait banner = mimimize it Don't like new Aura voice = Turn sound down...
whats next?
Don't like new UI = disable it? Don't like new probe scanner = don't use it? Don't like new mechanics = don't play?
This is a total cop-out.
If the new aura voice is how new players are expected to be introduced into the game, I feel the bad for them. Eve is meant to be ruthless and cold... the new voice is so sprightly and happy.. not in line with the game AT ALL!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it... and if you are going to revamp something... make it BETTER.. .not WORSE.
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Linkoman
Dutch East Querious Company Asteria Concord.
11
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Posted - 2016.11.16 03:56:57 -
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I personally like the voice. I think it has a lot more personality than the old one did. |
Inir Ishtori
Perkone Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2016.11.16 04:15:06 -
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My initial impression is mostly negative.
I don't see much change I was hoping would happen some day - ie citadels/outposts becoming interactive on a more deeper and personal level or improvements to PI. There is a suggestion about that somewhere in my posting history.
Alpha clone skill sets are extremely limiting and halving skill training speed just adds insult to the injury. The usual complaint of new players was not being able to get into relevant ships faster and how exclusion from many important skills while also getting the skills twice as slow should help retaining them i really don't know. At least i am glad to have had a 3 weeks headstart for my alpha character.
Which brings me to the character sheet. It's ****. Terrible. Not once since I started playing in 2006 have I thought CCP went full ******: not when you failed Incarna(you simply don't have the right talent), not when you were discussing gold ammo(you were being really stupid back then, though), not when you messed up the fitting screen(because it still was and is to this day perfectly usable). But this piece of **** you created is going full ****** at cosmic speeds. It's pretty funny too, because the fitting screen doesn't even show all the apparel the character wears, so people can't see what their character looks like to other players and will probably stop caring at some point, directly cutting into your NEX store profits.
Instead of letting your UI experts messing up perfectly fine interfaces, it would have been a really good idea to force them to create a better drone interface so we can actually have buttons for attack, return, orbit etc. When I was actually playing the game before, it was in the evenings before sleep, usually relaxing and drinking a cup of tea, and in such a setting being able to comfortably use a mouse for all relevant interactions would have been great.
Playing as an alpha clone I also realized that you most probably won't be getting money nor PLEX from me anymore. I became quite a carebear after my initial pvp experiences simply due to the fact that earning ISK was and is still boring, so over the years instead of being bored even more sitting somewhere on a gate or flying around for 2 hours for 5 minutes of action I became quite content as a solo player doing 2-3 missions every 3-4 days. And those are pretty much the same from level 1 to level 4. Everything else is either more fun as an actual Excel sheet(like PI), EFT graph or requires of one to be on the far side of the autist spectrum(scan spam in wormholes), so high sec without fancy ships it is. All completely free with the new shiny and really pretty explosions from what i can tell by looking at the NPC frigates going boom in LvL1's.
TL;DR: everything is meh to awful other than explosions. Those are pretty nice. |
artemis Ambraella
10 Hammers Black Ops Division
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 04:27:52 -
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Aura's new voice sounds like the voice in an elevator with a crappy speaker.
CCPlease bring back the old Aura's voice. It was richer, fuller, and a calm soothing voice in this mad universe.
I can understand the will to change Aura's voice for something a bit different, but why the potato quality?!?
Also, the "Docking permission requested" line, why is it playing so fast? |
Belthazor4011
The Bacon Who Loved Me The Bacon Empire
284
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Posted - 2016.11.16 04:37:02 -
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In short
-New Voice is terrible, why change something that wasn't broken?
-New Character sheet is terrible and stupidly complicated to use, why change something that wasn't broken?
-New Explosions are nice, but they are so big I feel like my ship should go boom with it every time I see one happen. Maybe they are too big?
-Can't play with my friends tonight because half of them aren't getting their verification mails.
-The good? Ehhh still looking, will let you know if I find something. |
Jeven HouseBenyo
Vanity Thy Name Is
413
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Posted - 2016.11.16 04:45:47 -
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Sterling Paradox wrote:Jeven HouseBenyo wrote:Danalyse Sly wrote:The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability. I was going to be more polite about the new character/skill window and just call it overly cluttered and counter-intuitive. Besides what looks like busy work for busy work's sake (mouse over for everything detailed is a sloppy habit to fall into), it's less friendly to bad eyesight than the old one was. That's not a good thing. CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I'll learn to love the new Aura voice if you give back something very much resembling in both form and function the old skill window. Fair deal? >Jeven's String Puller Polite critique is all good and well but not when it falls on deaf ears. Most of these criticisms were already brought up in the beta environment thread about how poor the new skill window is and were thoroughly ignored.
So basically CCP did the same thing with SiSi character sheet feedback as they do with any feedback that's not glowing in praise. Ignore it until the paying customers complaining shut up and/or go away. How disheartening. I'd honestly hoped with the (fingers crossed) large influx of actual new players, the bad habits of CCP's update/expansion behavior (breaking what works, shelving feedback, going for pretty over functional, delaying promise fulfillment to the time order of years) had been tossed aside so they wouldn't have to slog through the mess older players fight each and every update/release/expansion.
Le Sigh.
Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.
'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.
Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.
Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P
No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
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GoHa RED
vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R
2
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Posted - 2016.11.16 04:50:20 -
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Did CCP ever tried to explain why they changed good voice with obviously bad one? |
Kenrailae
The Scope Gallente Federation
651
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Posted - 2016.11.16 04:55:27 -
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GoHa RED wrote:Did CCP ever tried to explain why they changed good voice with obviously bad one?
New NPE work. Needed more voice work for the new NPE, and didn't want to have mixed voice files, is my understanding. The NPE MASSIVELY needed a rework. Haven't been through it yet myself, but the cost was a new voice over. I think this one woulda been okay had she not said so many things soooooo fast.
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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GoHa RED
vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:03:09 -
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and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it? |
Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:09:14 -
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GoHa RED wrote:and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it?
CCP had to make it more appealing for children and casuals. |
GoHa RED
vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:11:42 -
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Is that official version and being said somewhere? Could you, please, provide a link?
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Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:19:06 -
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GoHa RED wrote:Is that official version and being said somewhere? Could you, please, provide a link?
No, it is what I think when I hear it. It sound like terrain star craft 2 voice to me and we all know who likes this game. |
Kenrailae
The Scope Gallente Federation
651
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:20:32 -
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It IS important to note that new Aura sounds much better from the bit of dabbling I've done in the new NPE and youtube vids I've watched. She just speaks waaay too fast in the standard interactions like warp drive active and docking.
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:24:31 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote: CCP are a joke.
RIP.
Can confirm. Bot armies can fully automaticly suck dry whole mining belts but cpp fails to write a script for changing clones without leaving the ship. And the one they did for not manually stopping the queue freezes my pc for several seconds. |
SeVenNight Deng
Tai-Chi Northern Coalition.
23
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:30:09 -
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I came again to summarize the things need to change/improve like I did in the last patch:
1. Give the options to us to choose for the new or old Aura voice( even though most of the time I turn my sound off, most of my fri prefer the old voice. You should know the feeling when the someone accompanied you for many year and suddenly be taken away.)
2. Improve your character sheet, with training multiplier and actual skill point listed in sheet, and make the static avatar, as the same as the one we were using.
3. Omega do not need the Gold outlines, no, we don't. We already subscribe and this should not be the thing to distract ppls.
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GoHa RED
vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:30:14 -
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My opinion: new voice is not better at any means, and much worse in many means.
What is even more important: old voice created very special ffeling... Wich totally lost now. I found two solutions: first, I turn lvl of UI speach to zero. Played a little and figured that I am missing a lot. Second - I closed EVE client. And I don't wanna come back to hear that new chatty-puppy-crap. It is not an intention, not a statemtn. It how I feel: I dont wanna live in that new environment. it. is just something inside me don't want it anymore. big disappointment.
P.S. Does anyone sell sound pack with old voice? WTB!! Willing to pay to get old voice back. |
Ismael Caleb Echart
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:32:48 -
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I don't often complain - but add me to the long list of objectors to your continual changes for features that were either simple to use, user friendly, or aesthically pleasing.
Character Sheet - rubbish. New voice rubbish. Still hate the new map and probe window.
You know now when I hear there's a major update coming, instead of really looking forward to the new stuff, I tend to wonder what is going to get screwed up next that is going to annoy me and spoil my in game enjoyment. Change for change sake is poor management just because it looks more flashy.
Start listening to your customers please and if you change something - give us an option to use it or NOT in the settings menu, or yore just going to **** of a lot of people with the risk that some will just say enough is enough. One customer will probably spend several hundred $dollars worth of real money during their game lifetime - is it not better to keep as many as possible satisfied and playing?
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Cat Steele
Delphia Trust
5
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:39:04 -
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I hope the Aura voice for everyday interactions can be fixed to something that sounds more like the old Aura, not to beat a dead horse or anything.
I've made my peace with the new skill window, it took some adjusting, but I guess I will manage with it. I do wish my character portrait was inserted in the character section, instead of the new animation, I do not like the animation.
For those that are missing the character picture in the character section of the character sheet, press the down arrow in the upper right hand corner, basically that section is "minimized". It should be right next to security status. I hope that helps.
I am a bit undecided on the new fleet boost mechanic, on one hand I do like that it is on grid, on the other hand, I am not that fond of having to babysit the activation of it. I suppose I will adjust to it, for me though it's a little meh :(
Thanks CCP for placing the omega icon at the login, at least it lets me know I'm paid up for one more day.
I do appreciate the changes to the orca bays, and the new mining drone changes. I also can appreciate that you no longer have to organize your fleets for the fleet boosts.
I think the update is a 5/10, I hope you change that animation to the portrait on the character screen and at least make some sort of fix to the Aura voice, then I think the update would be much better 8/10.
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Jerghul
Running with Dogs Stella Nova
13
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:45:23 -
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Great job CCP!
Thank you.
" We have been doing a lot of challenging old assumptions of late, and often with delightful results. Just because something is doesn't mean it should be..."
-Team Game Of Drones (Dec 2015)
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GoHa RED
vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:46:18 -
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you will mine more, and sell for less. Proportion between time spend and ISK earned will be the same. |
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
396
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Posted - 2016.11.16 05:51:33 -
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Aura's new voice sounds like a female Stephen Hawkings. All due respect to Prof. Hawkings, but his feminized voice does not sooth me the way old Aura did as I was making my way through 40 jumps of Lowsec. For the love of BOB, can we bring her back? |
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