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Rapala Armiron
Arton Yachting and Angling Club Domain Research and Mining Inst.
43
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Posted - 2016.11.16 14:35:52 -
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You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again.
I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?"
Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game.
TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so. |
Rhyme Bittern
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
15
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Posted - 2016.11.16 14:45:42 -
[422] - Quote
Please redo Aura's voice. We do not necessarily require the old one back, but we need a voice that sounds professional, clear, smooth and soothing - our only friend in galaxy full of predators. The current implementation is harsh, fast, unclear and extremely impersonal. The sound is also oddly choppy. It's as if some CCP employee recorded his sister using a webcam. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
225
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:00:52 -
[423] - Quote
Bob Hawke wrote:Terrorfrodo wrote:New Aura sucks, please bring the old back or offer several voice packs like many other games do.
New Aura is just like a slightly annoyed and bored woman talking to me. I'm pretty sure EVE players don't need even more of that in their lives :p
Old Aura sounded like a nice but synthetic computer voice, which is exactly how my spaceship should talk to me! Completely agree. New voice is seriously annoying. I agree too! I played only a few hourse, but i already had to turn off UI speech sound because she gets annoying so fast. |
Carneros
Ancient Hittite Corporation The Bastion
24
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:01:04 -
[424] - Quote
Launcher might need more testing with multiple accounts. I'm finding it loses all saved accounts except one overnight.
At least as I add them back in it is not asking me to validate them all again. I did them all the night before the patch, then had to do them all again the morning of the patch. Preparation in advance didn't actually affect anything despite the community service announcement. |
Mia Coldheart
Teutate raiders The-Culture
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:04:48 -
[425] - Quote
I think we need an option to choose if we want the old one or the new one, simple ! Everyone will be happy.
I think even if the new voice and acting will be better, the majority of vet players will choose Aura's old voice...
Aura is the soul of Eve !!
CCP please DO IT !!! |
Belthazor4011
The Bacon Who Loved Me The Bacon Empire
289
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:14:16 -
[426] - Quote
Rapala Armiron wrote:You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again.
I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?"
Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game.
TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so.
Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work.
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Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1225
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:38:47 -
[427] - Quote
Belthazor4011 wrote:Rapala Armiron wrote:You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again.
I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?"
Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game.
TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so. Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work. Unfortunately (for players) the new Aura voice and especially the jumble called a character sheet are just more examples of how out of touch Devs are with their customers.
Eve is becoming the game I play when there is just nothing else to do. Which is a shame as it used to be what I did instead of just about everything else.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
2610
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:43:15 -
[428] - Quote
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Eve is becoming the game I play when there is just nothing else to do.
But you do manage to put in some long, long hours of endless complaining on the forums, regardless.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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Saol Tareis Bas
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:43:32 -
[429] - Quote
Do Nut wrote:Please! - Bring back the old voice! - Bring back the separated training queue! - Bring back the "SAVE" button for the training queue! - Bring back the skill points of each skill! - Bring back the rank of each skill! Please!
And thank you: - The simulation mode is great! - The fitting browser is great too!
I wish good luck to you. Changing the login and security algorithms at the same day, when the rush of the alphas will start, is a very bad decision.
What this guy said. Very much this. |
Saol Tareis Bas
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3
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Posted - 2016.11.16 15:54:56 -
[430] - Quote
General Lynch wrote:Benevolant Khan wrote:Balabhadra Das wrote:General Lynch wrote:Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything.
Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints. |
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Erik Kalkoken
VOLTAGE REGULATORS No Handlebars.
36
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:02:57 -
[431] - Quote
I feel a new item on the New Eden Store coming soon: "Aura classic voice add-on"
Alliance Facebok page - Check out my blog - Find me on zKillboard
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
352
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:09:45 -
[432] - Quote
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work.
OK, we don't know each other. For the record:
I like the new warp tunnel, the new map, the new scanner and as far as I could see yesterday the new character sheet is also an improvement. It's much clearer to see which skills you already have and which ones are missing. Also, bragging with the sum of all ranks per category was not possible before. That alone entertained us few vets for awhile. :-D And EVE definitely needs LESS windows that can be independently resized, clutter the screen and randomly stack/resize with other windows if your mouse actions are a bit clumsy.
(still, Aura... :-/) |
Ruthbar
Thuggee
2
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:22:17 -
[433] - Quote
Uhhh scary...... Star Captain SKIN...... I was under the impression EVE has no references at all to RL national colors and symbols. Clearly no longer true. I would love my Jump Freighter in Green-White-Gold and a Shamrock on the side :-)
Have FuN! Ruthbar |
Rapala Armiron
Arton Yachting and Angling Club Domain Research and Mining Inst.
50
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:22:18 -
[434] - Quote
Edward Olmops wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:
Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work.
OK, we don't know each other. For the record: I like the new warp tunnel, the new map, the new scanner and as far as I could see yesterday the new character sheet is also an improvement. It's much clearer to see which skills you already have and which ones are missing. Also, bragging with the sum of all ranks per category was not possible before. That alone entertained us few vets for awhile. :-D And EVE definitely needs LESS windows that can be independently resized, clutter the screen and randomly stack/resize with other windows if your mouse actions are a bit clumsy. (still, Aura... :-/)
Well - there is always one |
Shaana Mistique
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:23:45 -
[435] - Quote
The new voices are ****, at least give us an option to keep the old one... Now it seems like it was "here girl grab that mic, say whats on this list, add some effect on it and there we go. All done in 5 minutes..." derp..
Maybe add something like more different voices, i mean, not every ship has the same "voice software" right ?
Also stop "fixing" things that arent broken... omg !! It only adds more empty checkboxes in the settings menu..
Then i opened my skillque and tadaa, waaay more buttons then needed when just want to drag and drop skills to my que from a list i can easily scroll through. If i wanted to see my whole character sheet ill just click the character icon above it tyvm CCPlz..
U did do something right tho, ship explosions are pretty now =) |
Yann Lafisques
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:25:41 -
[436] - Quote
Since we are to be stuck with these awful mining boost changes, It would be nice if we could get a couple minor changes in regards to mining drones:
1. Please bump down the bandwidth usage of Ice Harvester Drones down to 30mbit from 50, so that our Orcas may be allowed to also launch a few combat drones. Lowering to 30mbit would still prevent launching 2 ice harvester drones, as you seem to intend, while allowing us to fend off attackers with a few hobgoblins.
2. Please increase the travel speed of Ice Harvester Drones. I understand that you don't want us to have "insta-travel" drones, but ice fields are very wide. Some ice asteroids are easily 15-30km away and the Ice Harvester Drones are painfully slow. Added with the already slow Orca speed, it takes a long while to get in range to alleviate the drone travel delays.
3. Could we have a drone mining command shortcut key, or add "mining" to the existing "F" shortcut key for attack/salvage drones? It know it doesn't sound like much, but having to go to the drone window, right click on the mining drone and select "mine repeatedly" gets a little annoying after a while, when a simple key press could do the same thing.
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Maddison Lynch
Nexneo Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:26:09 -
[437] - Quote
Saol Tareis Bas wrote:General Lynch wrote:Benevolant Khan wrote:Balabhadra Das wrote:General Lynch wrote:Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints.
This!
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1942
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:29:08 -
[438] - Quote
Ruthbar wrote:Uhhh scary...... Star Captain SKIN...... I was under the impression EVE has no references at all to RL national colors and symbols. Clearly no longer true. I would love my Jump Freighter in Green-White-Gold and a Shamrock on the side :-)
Have FuN! Ruthbar They have to try to distract players from this fail "Expansion"
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Kenrailae
The Scope Gallente Federation
658
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:33:52 -
[439] - Quote
Yay! Been over 24 hours since I can't access one of my accounts because of the awesome last minute 2FA switch! Support planning on getting this resolved any time soon or can I expect game time since I'm being denied that and job time as that acct has jobs finished as well or are we just gonna get a giant bite of the **** sandwich?
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Malachir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:43:34 -
[440] - Quote
Having played for a while since the change, I find as a miner that one handy skill has clearly been dropped. I can no longer click on an asteroid in space to target. I have to use the overview instead. How did you manage to break this?
Still finding new Aura annoying. Please use the original files where possible, and a decent recording for all the new stuff. It can't be that difficult.
Tried to use the skillpage again. Tried is the operative word. This is no longer an instinctive scan of information, or ease of scrolling through large amount of information.
Was this tested by any long term players at all? Are any of the designers of this actually players of this game?
Oh wait, don't answer that. I say that because you didn't answer it the last time it was asked...or the time before.
My patience with the half-arsed implementation of substandard 'updates' is beginning to wear thin.
Weirdly enough, I was going to use an alt in alpha mode...up until the point where I find he can fly Amarr only...with somewhat limited usefulness. Ah well. Nevermind.. |
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Staten Island
Diversity 101 The Volition Cult
51
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:44:53 -
[441] - Quote
There are way too many ec rigs. Also why are they rigs in the first place? The market changes all the time - so if the market tanks on what I'm making - i'm supposed to adapt by stripping out my expensive t2 rigs and replacing them with something else? |
The Hate
Nexneo Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:45:32 -
[442] - Quote
General Lynch wrote:Benevolant Khan wrote:Balabhadra Das wrote:General Lynch wrote:Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything.
That must be it !!!! 12 years here and i love the game but new voice SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Samuella II
The Destined
11
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:57:19 -
[443] - Quote
New Icons for Omega items in hangars looks just like tech 2 . I cannot find items anymore. At least not as quick. This was untested and its unneeded feature.
At least remove those icons for Omega. I dont want to see icons that mean nothing to me and mess with my cargo hold and hangars visibility. |
Voxinian
124
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:57:21 -
[444] - Quote
Shaana Mistique wrote:
U did do something right tho, ship explosions are pretty now =)
If only you could look at them up close for the screenshots. They did something with the camera and it doesn't stay focussed (long enough) on the ship that is about to explode. Just when you start to see the pretty explosion the camera turns back to your won ship. |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
1116
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Posted - 2016.11.16 16:59:30 -
[445] - Quote
The skill groups in the new and 'improved' character sheet don't sort by alphabetical order.
You changed Leadership skills to Fleet Support but didn't change the name on the market.
Your game patches make you look like amateurs.
Not today spaghetti.
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Sahola Elva
PURE FW
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 17:01:58 -
[446] - Quote
The new training queue display is a step back
The old display was clear and simple. Split vertically it allowed the player to view a substantial part, if not all, of the training queue. This allowed easy and rapid checking of the skills queued for training, together with easy reordering or deletion of the same. The left half showed all of the categories of skills, in alphabetical order. Clicking the title of the category provided a list of the skills available for training, along with other helpful information.
The new display is now fixed, and horizontally split. The number of viewable skills in the queue is severely limited by the presence of the other two sections. If I want to see the available skills in the category I need to reduce the view of the training queue. If I wish to see the queue I need to restrict the view of the category's skills. The list of categories is always in the way; that can't be pushed to one side.
If I wanted to stack the old character and training windows I could; now that option is denied me.
The new setup is not as user-friendly as the old one, which I'd like returned. |
Calynus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 17:05:32 -
[447] - Quote
I can't understand how CCP can "fix" a ton of things that weren't really broken (RIP Aura :P) yet we still don't have the ability to properly micromanage our drones. We've been waiting for that functionality for eons now. |
Keaden Aemar
4 Marketeers Rura-Penthe
11
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Posted - 2016.11.16 17:06:30 -
[448] - Quote
Sahola Elva wrote:The new training queue display is a step back The old display was clear and simple. Split vertically it allowed the player to view a substantial part, if not all, of the training queue. This allowed easy and rapid checking of the skills queued for training, together with easy reordering or deletion of the same. The left half showed all of the categories of skills, in alphabetical order. Clicking the title of the category provided a list of the skills available for training, along with other helpful information. The new display is now fixed, and horizontally split. The number of viewable skills in the queue is severely limited by the presence of the other two sections. If I want to see the available skills in the category I need to reduce the view of the training queue. If I wish to see the queue I need to restrict the view of the category's skills. The list of categories is always in the way; that can't be pushed to one side. If I wanted to stack the old character and training windows I could; now that option is denied me. The new setup is not as user-friendly as the old one, which I'd like returned.
They should make the training que a slide out side panel similar to the fitting window |
Egsise
Special Boat Service. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
10
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Posted - 2016.11.16 17:06:51 -
[449] - Quote
I didn't log in on 15th but waited for a day and on 16th after the downtime I logged in. No issues, alpha clone works, old account works, 2FA works.
I really miss the old wormhole activation sound from 2012 or so, wspace hasn't been what it used to be after it was changed. As a paying customer I demand that you change it back to what it used to be.
Just kidding, shut up and take my money.
But I'm cancelling my auto-billing AGAIN because it's just wrong that it always switches on when I pay my sub. |
Calaeus Fira
New Eden's Best.
3
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Posted - 2016.11.16 17:17:56 -
[450] - Quote
+ Changes made to the interface itself is nice. It seems more intuitive, especially the skill training and fitting. + Effects of ship explosions are absolutely amazing and pleasant to watch.
- The Omega icons are confusing. They should not be visible if a player is a subscriber. They are basically useless and there should be an option to disable them. - New Aura voice is absolutely terrible. Many people are unhappy about it. It's fast, flat, oversimplified, sounds like a busy receptionist who doesn't have time to deal with you and really gives the impression of being done by amateurs. Original Aura voice was comfortable, smooth, warm, calming and relaxing. A pleasant companion on your travels through the dark space. The new voice is an absolute garbage and many people including myself have muted it because it's plain annoying. Why change something that was good and replaced it with this garbage, this I can't understand.
Please bring the old Aura voice back. At least introduce an option to switch to it for ISK or real currency. Listening to this new *improved* *thing* makes me wanna punch someone. Lack of the old Aura voice makes the space so much more empty. |
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