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AnzacPaul
Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy
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Posted - 2016.11.16 20:38:21 -
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Calaeus Fira wrote:Dominous Nolen wrote:Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ.
As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen.
No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that.
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Calaeus Fira
New Eden's Best.
10
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Posted - 2016.11.16 20:44:16 -
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AnzacPaul wrote:Calaeus Fira wrote:Dominous Nolen wrote:Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ.
As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen.
No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that. You are everything that is wrong with gaming these days. Oh, am I now? I am just sane enough to see that they won't won't revert this change unless they can profit from it. Every big company these days cares about nothing but money. We're small moneybags for those giants. "Nope" response perfectly visualize how much does their community/customers satisfaction mean to them. |
Dazzlin Flame
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2016.11.16 20:47:13 -
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So, I have some problems with the new Aura voice, and some suggestions on what could be done to improve it.
This game has always been one of the most relaxing games I have ever played. The visuals, sounds, voice, and music all played together to create this perception of absolute tranquility. Sadly however this new aura is completely out of place in this tranquil universe. She speaks too quickly and with too much urgency.
Imagine a star trek scene if you would. Your the captain of your ship and your sitting back in your chair, sipping on some tea as you command your ship. Old aura was like a Vulcan, no emotion or passion in her voice. She was calming and added to this sense of tranquility. Even in the most dire circumstances she was always calm. Now replace her with this new voice, and rather than the calm vulcan that adds to the serenity of your ship, you have this new ensign who panicks over the slightest thing. She disrupts the calm of your ship with every word she says, and there is never any calm in her voice. Yes you can shut her up, but then the universe around you is even more lonely than it was before.
My suggestion on how the new aura can be improved is simple. Guide the actor to be calm and relaxed. Speak slowly as if she rarely gets to say anything and she wants every word to count. As an additional point, I notice that whoever did the sound tried to replicate the reverberating sound of the old Aura. But sadly this new Aura just sounds muffled.
I truly hope you can fix aura's voice to be less annoying, as like I said, space is lonelier now without Aura talking to me. |
Sterling Paradox
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:17:46 -
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Saol Tareis Bas wrote:General Lynch wrote:Benevolant Khan wrote:Balabhadra Das wrote:General Lynch wrote:Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints.
They don't care if any of us stay. All they care about are potential future customers.
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Lyra Cho
The Cult of the Autocannon
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:19:55 -
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Manssell wrote:Inir Ishtori wrote:
Instead of letting your UI experts messing up perfectly fine interfaces, it would have been a really good idea to force them to create a better drone interface so we can actually have buttons for attack, return, orbit etc.
Thanks realizing they could have put those hours to fixing the damn drone interface everyone hates, instead of what they did to the character one that no one was complaining about until now, just made me sad....
+1
There's a lot of things they could have fixed instead of giving us that disaster of a UI. |
Serena Corrino
Proximity Breach
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:28:19 -
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That thread is like a minature version of how any criticism of any of CCP's bad ideas plays out.
People complain about it being a poor change, hastily executed --> CCP ignores all complaints and goes into turtle mode. |
Kenrailae
The Scope Gallente Federation
658
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:31:05 -
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Yeah, lovin' the responses CCP is providing in this thread....
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Trinica fey
13. Enigma Project
1
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:40:29 -
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CCP please help, I'm struggling and worried about your new take on omega clone state.
Firstly I understand with eve now being f2p you guys need to put in marketing ploys too keep getting new sub and keeping old subs subbed.
my main issue is the x2 training speed its telling me i'm getting in the bottom left of my training queue, i mean really ccp not like alpha is so op i stop subbing to play alpha i mean its great for getting new people in the game but reminding me everytime i look at my skill queue that i'm gifted with this x2 training speed is out right rediculous i'v already decided i wanted to sub (or plex) for omega please stop reminding me i'm on of the lucky individuals who thinks this game is worth 9.99 a month clearly i do or i wouldn't be paying it.
peace, i love you CCP, stop trying to sell me your gold i'v already bought. |
Trinica fey
13. Enigma Project
1
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:47:59 -
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Trinica fey wrote:CCP please help, I'm struggling and worried about your new take on omega clone state.
Firstly I understand with eve now being f2p you guys need to put in marketing ploys too keep getting new sub and keeping old subs subbed.
my main issue is the x2 training speed its telling me i'm getting in the bottom left of my training queue, I mean really ccp. not like alpha is so op i stop subbing to play alpha. I mean its great for getting new people in the game, but reminding me everytime i look at my skill queue that i'm gifted with this x2 training speed is out right rediculous. i'v already decided i wanted to sub (or plex) for omega please stop reminding me i'm on of the lucky individuals who thinks this game is worth 9.99 a month. I clearly i do or i wouldn't be paying it.
peace, i love you CCP, stop trying to sell me your gold i'v already bought.
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Cad Aver
Onderzoek en Ontwikkeling Co.
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:54:46 -
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Eirene Jitacheck wrote:Another vote to bring back Aura.
At the very least, slow it down, take it down a bit in pitch, and add some reverb or something.
I'm Cad Aver and I approve this message!
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maxine Acami
Pacific NorthWest Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:55:06 -
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so far, i have to say it is nice to be able to play eve again. however i see a couple of mistakes in my opinion on the limitations for alpha clone.
1. mastery level for ships are way to limited. most cases you can maybe get mastery 1 even 2 at most.
my suggestion would be to allow all alphas to at least reach mastery 3 on all ships they can get the skills to pilot.
2. mining limitation of ships for alphas are set very poorly. frigates only? that is basically saying oh here have a trial account forever. not very incising for new players to want to get a sub, not to mention the difficulty for some of us old time miner that had moved on to barges now have to reacquire the frigate. i can understand the lock out from the industrial and capital ships even the high-tech variants of ships but he barges not so much.
my suggestion would be allow the barges to alphas at least.
for now that is all i have to say other then thank you for the first time attempt at setting up a free to play system in this awesome game. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
484
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:20:23 -
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I am glad we are actually back to general feedback and not stuck up on one devs response (I will neither condone nor approve here).
maxine Acami wrote:so far, i have to say it is nice to be able to play eve again. however i see a couple of mistakes in my opinion on the limitations for alpha clone.
1. mastery level for ships are way to limited. most cases you can maybe get mastery 1 even 2 at most.
my suggestion would be to allow all alphas to at least reach mastery 3 on all ships they can get the skills to pilot.
2. mining limitation of ships for alphas are set very poorly. frigates only? that is basically saying oh here have a trial account forever. not very incising for new players to want to get a sub, not to mention the difficulty for some of us old time miner that had moved on to barges now have to reacquire the frigate. i can understand the lock out from the industrial and capital ships even the high-tech variants of ships but he barges not so much.
my suggestion would be allow the barges to alphas at least.
for now that is all i have to say other then thank you for the first time attempt at setting up a free to play system in this awesome game. I underlined your most important point, not sure how you could get past it, stating what it is and accuse it at the same time for being exactly what it is supposed to be
Basically I am surprised how open, accepting and generally condoning the paying players are of the alpha clone feature, because skills are a valuable (in both currencies) commodity. Everyone wants free Sp, but in the same manner nobody wants others to get them also.
That said, I think the alpha clones are at the moment as competent as can be allowed in the face of the possible (and massive) exploitation potential from the current and future players. Which probably is even a bigger concern compared to the skillpoint investment and value.
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Eski Minzin
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:26:46 -
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I'm still just pissed off about the change of Aura's voice. And the way CCP is (and isn't) responding to it certainly doesn't help.
I realize that you guys at CCP most likely have an attitude of "nobody likes changes, but they'll adapt" right now. But I can assure you, it is much more serious than that.
Have you any idea what kind of an impact it has on the game when you get annoyed every time you warp or dock a station? Especially when, at times, you do this every couple of seconds?
In the end I decided to just mute her voice because I came to realize that most of the time I was feeling more annoyed than ejoying myself while playing this game that I have come to love so much. Not at all the way I would've liked to solve this, of course. And I can't imagine you feeling good about your players doing this either.
By now I have, kind of, come to terms with the fact that you had to re-record her lines. I understand why. Bu why did you have to do such a shoddy job at it? That I don't understand. Because these new recordings simply just don't sound good. Not at all, in fact. I mean, come on... Right now it sounds like two different women saying "Docking permission requested" and "Docking request accepted". Who in heaven's name OK'ed this?
If you had to hire a different voice actress this time, for whatever reason that might've been, then couldn't you at least have done your best to make these new recordings sound as similar as possible to the previous ones so as not to change the overall atmosphere and sound of the game? Couldn't you at least have done us that favor?
If that is indeed what you were aiming for then I'm sorry, but you have failed miserably. And I demand (I believe I can make demands since you expect me to pay you) that you either re-record it or fix the current recordings. If, on the other hand, you purposefully went a different direction with regards to the sound of her voice, then I demand an explanation of why exactly you thought this was a great idea.
I sincerely hope that you will have the common decency to give a (kind and proper this time, please) response on this matter. Especially since such a vast amount of your customers have showed themselves to be dissatisfied with this. And I can assure you, it's not just us on the forums who are dissatisfied. I have spoken to enough people in-game to be able to conclude that were are just the tip of the iceberg. The ones who are at least taking the time to make themselves heard.
Finally, I would like to end on a positive note, and say that I genuinely am happy with pretty much all of the other changes you have implemented. Some will take some time to get used to, sure. But they don't bother me. So thank you for that, and overall I think compliments are in order for taking the game through this transition. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:26:57 -
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Mining seems limited. Only having access to one mining frigate seems pointless. Even a trial account could get mining barges if you trained properly and not even counting how much slower alphas train than trial accounts.
As long as there's no tech or broken op pirate faction/t3 stuff being used idk why they're limiting it to only cruisers and a mining frigate. You can't really do anything with that. It's not valid a long term play option like they claimed.
Also surprised there's no new probe scanner interface or explanation of D scan for new players. |
Calynus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:29:44 -
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Very unprofessional. Personally, I don't like giving money to businesses who are rude and unprofessional to paying customers. I'm sure I'm not alone with this sentiment. |
Benevolant Khan
Aliastra Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:33:20 -
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Corporeal Universalis wrote:Raw Matters wrote:Following my own advice I just canceled my subscription with reason "Aura voice"
Let's see what happens. I just cancelled my subscription with reason "Aura voice changed." as I was forced to turn it off, and I am now missing on various messages. EVE without Aura, is not EVE. So if Aura doesn't come back, I will not either.
yep your right - as not a single response from a dev on this thread for over a day its time to cancel my 4 subs too.
CCP Falcon - this guy needs to remember without any customers he doesnt have a job. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3714
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:37:10 -
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Skill Window feedback.
On first opening the window there is no selected focus for the scroll wheel. If the default focus could be set to the Skills section (Not the training queue, but where you see all skills in a category) then it would make life slightly smoother. It does maintain the focus once you have selected either the skill window or training queue and then select a new category without having to mouse down and select again, but it would be easier to start with one. |
Yoshi Ikuzo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:37:24 -
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I totally love the new voice in Ascension, I also love the additional sounds. It makes mining so much more pleasant, in my view. If at all possible, I'd like to see a few voice samples added (in place of, or in addition to the sounds), such as 'Jumping from XXX to XXX' or 'Arriving/arrived at XXX' or 'Ore hold full' and such, for a more 'Sci-Fi' feel, but these are wishes, not gripes. I totally love what has been done!
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DeadGuyVegas
JABOFPE
3
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:43:56 -
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Not Happy with the new Aura voice. It has been a topic in Local, and Corp chat since the update. I agree with others that the old voice was soothing. My Corp and I hope CCP will look into and consider a toggle, or revert, or at least an edit of/from the new voice.
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Yoshi Ikuzo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.11.16 22:57:21 -
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DeadGuyVegas wrote:Not Happy with the new Aura voice. It has been a topic in Local, and Corp chat since the update. I agree with others that the old voice was soothing. My Corp and I hope CCP will look into and consider a toggle, or revert, or at least an edit of/from the new voice.
I thought the old voice was better than no voice, but I felt it sounded tired and "backgroundish" to the point that I often didn't hear it. This new voice sounds fresh and feminine and much more pleasant. To me, anyway.
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Sandor Kurovsky
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2016.11.16 23:05:04 -
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maxine Acami wrote: 1. mastery level for ships are way to limited. most cases you can maybe get mastery 1 even 2 at most.
my suggestion would be to allow all alphas to at least reach mastery 3 on all ships they can get the skills to pilot.
IMO, they had to draw the line somewhere. New players don't need to get beyond mastery 1 to decide whether or not they will continue playing the game/upgrading to a paid sub. Allowing new (or old) players to advance that far into the game without paying does not incentivize them to do so.
maxine Acami wrote: 2. mining limitation of ships for alphas are set very poorly. frigates only? that is basically saying oh here have a trial account forever. not very incising for new players to want to get a sub, not to mention the difficulty for some of us old time miner that had moved on to barges now have to reacquire the frigate. i can understand the lock out from the industrial and capital ships even the high-tech variants of ships but he barges not so much.
my suggestion would be allow the barges to alphas at least.
This would effectively ruin mining for paying players and allow an enormous opportunity for botting. Also, see my above rationale as it applies to this as well.
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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
121
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Posted - 2016.11.16 23:11:46 -
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I cannot open the ship fitting window, and the station service window has completely disappeared. Is there a workaround?
I cleared the cache many times already. |
Dominous Nolen
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
227
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Posted - 2016.11.16 23:11:48 -
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Request: Set look at invul of an exploding ship to a longer period. I'm finding the camera changes back to the default view before we get a chance to see that sweet sweet explosion.
@dominousnolen
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Kalen Blackstar
Silver Sun Republic
26
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:02:27 -
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I now disabled the Aura voice by setting "UI Speech Level" to 0. You have official destroyed one more aspect of the game. I struggle with the decision each time it comes up as to whether or not to renew my subscription. As I am disabling and turning away from one aspect of this game after another, that decision is getting easier and easier. |
Jhani Bralhast
7
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:57:12 -
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My feedback pretty much echoes most everyone else I've read so far: don't like the new character skill page layout and the new UI voice, but everything else seems pretty awesome so far!
The new skills page is very confusing and not intuitive at all. I could passively glimpse at the old one and know what my queue was like; this new one takes up way too much screen space while somehow showing less information than before. For that reason it is impressive to me but not in a positive manner!
And while I don't mean to be disrespectful to the voice actress who provided the new voice of EVE or the efforts of those involved, the old voice was far superior. It had a warm quality with good enunciation, vocal pace and inflection. Never once did that old voice come up and I wasn't interested in what it had to say. The new voice seems rushed - almost impatient - and is over-filtered to sound distant and tinny. It is not relatable or enjoyable at all, and actually affects my immersion into the game.
Please bring back the old voice! |
Vrarrg
The Reavers.
0
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Posted - 2016.11.17 01:06:39 -
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Jhani Bralhast wrote:My feedback pretty much echoes most everyone else I've read so far: don't like the new character skill page layout and the new UI voice, but everything else seems pretty awesome so far!
The new skills page is very confusing and not intuitive at all. I could passively glimpse at the old one and know what my queue was like; this new one takes up way too much screen space while somehow showing less information than before. For that reason it is impressive to me but not in a positive manner!
And while I don't mean to be disrespectful to the voice actress who provided the new voice of EVE or the efforts of those involved, the old voice was far superior. It had a warm quality with good enunciation, vocal pace and inflection. Never once did that old voice come up and I wasn't interested in what it had to say. The new voice seems rushed - almost impatient - and is over-filtered to sound distant and tinny. It is not relatable or enjoyable at all, and actually affects my immersion into the game.
Please bring back the old voice!
I agree 100% |
Gyrr Sie
W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M Gentlemen's.Club
13
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Posted - 2016.11.17 01:35:37 -
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2FA nonsense - F!!! F!!! F!!!
Choice of Aura voice actor - F!!! Ship AI is suppose to be calm and sexy not hyperactive teenybopper.
Character sheet ui change - F!!! Skill queue does not show enough depth Containers for skills are not alphabetical
Mouse over pop ups should be bound to holding a key down... pick a key any key... I don't like it by default - C-
Boosting changes - B+ Range and need for "ammo"
Mining ship changes - A I like the Orca and Rorqual changes for the most part
in game EFT - B Needs some work but over all good job
Still have to check out the rest of it due to 2FA issues yesterday not allowing me to log in the rest of my nerds.
Lest I forget... Yahoo.com - if there was a grade below an F they would get it. |
Caldranna
Let's annoy'em
20
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Posted - 2016.11.17 01:50:16 -
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Give old Aura voice back! |
Regan Rotineque
The Scope Gallente Federation
471
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Posted - 2016.11.17 03:43:57 -
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Quite like some of the changes
new explosions - very nice orca changes - great NPC Miners - really like the idea/concept behind it - would love to see the old convoy's come back to be raided as well.
Some things not so good
New Aura - sorry but I really dont like her - too short almost snippy sounding - hard to hear/understand - would have been nice if we kept old Aura for the things that old Aura did so well - and they had new Aura for the NPE.
The new character sheet - The good - I like the hover over on the skills and the list of modules/guns or new skills that open as you train
The not so good - I really dont like the formatting here - much prefer having the window use a widescreen approach so that you could have the skills list and the training queue side by side. There is lots of wasted space this way, and the box does not scale as you make it wider/narrower. Also you can only see limited items at a time in the queue or the in the available skills depending on sizing those windows. The side by side allow you to see them all - the old tree system was imho FAR superior. Also we cannot see if the skill is 2x, 4x etc... or how many SP it takes to achieve clearly. So new things were added but it is what was taken away that is the problem. |
Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2016.11.17 04:10:45 -
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I actually like the new Aura voice :)
The golden edge on T2 message.. more of an eyesore now than ever was. |
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