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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.11.27 02:00:03 -
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Annette Durado wrote:Ha, good to see the fanboy toxic community hasn't changed. You really cannot say anything negative about the game without people scrambling out of the woodwork in defence of everything. Was to be expected - it's why people don't stick around.
In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve.
That'/s annoying. Greedy entitled moron post something dumb. People respond to the dumbness of it all, and the next thing you know, the people who DIDN'T start a dumb thread are toxic and fanboys. Some people are incredible.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8099
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Posted - 2016.11.27 02:16:23 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Annette Durado wrote:Ha, good to see the fanboy toxic community hasn't changed. You really cannot say anything negative about the game without people scrambling out of the woodwork in defence of everything. Was to be expected - it's why people don't stick around.
In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. That'/s annoying. Greedy entitled moron post something dumb. People respond to the dumbness of it all, and the next thing you know, the people who DIDN'T start a dumb thread are toxic and fanboys. Some people are incredible.
Yeah, calling people 'fanboy', the easy way to both avoid and dismiss legitimate criticism of your ideas. Too bad it's completely irrelevant and achieves neither.
Annette, I have plenty of criticisms of the game, to name just a few, the static universe, the ease with which PVP can be avoided in all space, and last but definitely not least, that fact that people can log in for free at all. But please, tell me how much of a fanboy I am, as if that somehow reduces how much of a spoiled brat you are.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
555
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Posted - 2016.11.27 03:22:48 -
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Never ceases to amaze me, even when free people expect five star treatment, like people going to a food bank and complaining when they don't get Filet mignon. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
554
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Posted - 2016.11.27 04:16:21 -
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Troll makes thread,
Troll doesn't respond to thread beyond the first page.
Trolls job is done.
Troll goes back to other games (singloe player) no one likes a Troll after all.
Troll is forgotten.
We can all move along now, nothing more to see.
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Aurelius Oshidashi
Hard-line Syndicate Serrice Council.
17
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Posted - 2016.11.27 13:51:56 -
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Cybrupt YouTube wrote:Well since I came to see the free part of the game I have to admit the first mining ship I looked at to buy required a subscription so I just rolled my eyes and thought about playing Phantasy Star Online for free instead, lol. Pretty sad really, lol. But I have a life these days and don't really play video games. The thing is youre always getting screwed when you play a video game. Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face. and these hardcore losers who have several accounts running at the same time etc have serious problems. i dont have a problem with it having free low level stuff. you can get your fix and leave like I always do and know you can use the same account instead of making another trial account. Even when I paid I didn't really wanna play this crappy game. It's a cool game just crappy.
So we with multiple accounts are losers? We have serious problems? Hmmm, just checked and I still have a good bank account, job where I travel the world for and a wife who's a model. Oh but we eve players are such losers. You just can't control your own gaming habits, probably one of many things in life you don't have control over... please go back to your little phantasy game, the teenagers there need your foolishness to feel better about themselves. |
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
751
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Posted - 2016.11.27 14:30:00 -
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I'm back! o/
Hey wait. How come I cant run my 50 man mining blob for free?? This sucks. I'm going back to hello kitty online.
They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.
**This IS my main so STFU.
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XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing Phantom-Recon
151
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Posted - 2016.11.27 17:34:51 -
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Annette Durado wrote:I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).
So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.
So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?
How much did you have to pay to log into EVE and play the game? |
Nina Hayes
Dark Horse RM
82
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Posted - 2016.11.27 18:19:19 -
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All those bees buzzing......... |
Kosomot
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2016.11.28 01:57:37 -
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Vigirr wrote:It's difficult to explain to the entitled and special snowflake masses that EVE doesn't come in pumpkin spice flavour, because it's not a game for the masses. Never was, never will or should be.
If you don't like it then you're FREE to not play it and stop bothering the ones who ARE playing it with your vitriol and toxicity.
Wait a minute...are you telling me that an alpha CANNOT get a Pumpkin Spice Latte in EvE. what am i supposed to drink while i'm watching my holoreels with my Janitor and Exotic Dancer.
I do agree with you thou.
I tried to explain EvE to people at work, and they always ask...so what happens when your ship blows up.
...Look at them and say, yes that happens.....
yes yes but what happens to the ship...do you have to fix it or ..
nope...if you are fast you will get away other wise they are likely to blow you up as well.
If you are smart you insured it so you can buy another one...hopefully.
them: so wait you lose it, ... forever...
well you don't loose the ability to fly that type of ship, and maybe you can get some of your wreck back but don't count on it
F#^K that is mostly the response i get.
It is too much game for most.
I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer...
or as EVE Online would have it...
A Carebear!!
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Keno Skir
1016
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Posted - 2016.11.28 11:17:15 -
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Aurelius Oshidashi wrote:So we with multiple accounts are losers? We have serious problems? Hmmm, just checked and I still have a good bank account, job where I travel the world for and a wife who's a model.
Hahahaha
sorry.. carry on everyone.
<Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï>
Including ISK Bonus & In Game Assistance - Piracy / Wormhole Space / Covops PvP
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14955
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Posted - 2016.11.28 13:21:25 -
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Piugattuk wrote:Never ceases to amaze me, even when free people expect five star treatment, like people going to a food bank and complaining when they don't get Filet mignon.
I keep getting this image in my head of someone getting on their personally owned G5 to fly to Icleand and personally tell CCP their game isn't free enough...
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Tristan Valentina
Moira. Villore Accords
78
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Posted - 2016.11.28 19:25:20 -
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Well since you cant really quit anymore, can I have your stuff and biomass? Fly safe! |
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2016.11.28 20:00:55 -
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Tristan Valentina wrote:Well since you cant really quit anymore, can I have your stuff and biomass? Fly safe! EvE is now just like Hotel California. |
Vigirr
109
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Posted - 2016.11.28 21:42:59 -
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Kosomot wrote:It is too much game for most.
People try to pass that as a down side, I see it as a good thing.
Mark Marconi wrote:EvE is now just like Hotel California.
It always has been like that |
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
415
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Posted - 2016.11.29 00:14:55 -
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Tristan Valentina wrote:Well since you cant really quit anymore, can I have your stuff and biomass? Fly safe! Until I see the OP in Doomheim, I just assume it's another forum attention-seeker.
Dum Spiro Spero
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Naye Nathaniel
New.Lab.Era
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Posted - 2016.11.29 15:09:49 -
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The OP is right; EVE have a toxic community - thats why there is one of the golden rules which says:
"Never trust anyone" -
EVE is not free to play - it's even worse than WoW trial account; I advanced to Omega only bcs I had a plex stored in my assets - in other way i would never decide to do such a move;
I already found: - some douchbags; - some bulls$it in game mechanis; - hillarious Plex price; - lowered payout as beying a carebear;
Tbh i have to spend 10 days to earn enough ISKies for a plex with my Omega account - but then i lost like 200 KK assets during the burners and being 1 shooted by minmatar police in, a ship tinny as $hit;
Anyway + for the Thread Owner! |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2016.11.29 15:14:03 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Did you pay anything to be able to login and play the game?
except... well you need to sub in order to play normally.
The TS is absolutely right, alpha clones dont reflect f2p game scheme but merely unlimited trial. To be fair, CCP never sold their alpha clones as F2P, its mostly players who hyped eve being F2P now. |
Voxinian
142
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Posted - 2016.11.29 15:19:31 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Annette Durado wrote:In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. Who's attacked you? I think what you are complaining about is a misinterpretation of what CCP have said, but I wouldn't attack you over it and I can't really see any evidence if attacks in anyone else's posts either. Just having a different view isn't an attack.
What has CCP said?
I hear and read different things all from the same CCP. One moment I read that Alpha is a free trail without a time limit. And then I watch like a CCP live stream where they are calling Alpha's the new free to play format. I don't think they really know yet what alpha is supposed to be.
Anywho... I am waiting for the cheapo sub Beta clone that lets me use all my current trained skills, but with added limits like no cyno and no skilltraining. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8137
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Posted - 2016.11.29 15:22:40 -
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Voxinian wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Annette Durado wrote:In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. Who's attacked you? I think what you are complaining about is a misinterpretation of what CCP have said, but I wouldn't attack you over it and I can't really see any evidence if attacks in anyone else's posts either. Just having a different view isn't an attack. What has CCP said? I hear and read different things all from the same CCP. One moment I read that Alpha is a free trail without a time limit. And then I watch like a CCP live stream where they are calling Alpha's the new free to play format. I don't think they really know yet what alpha is supposed to be. Anywho... I am waiting for the cheapo sub Beta clone that lets me use all my current trained skills, but with added limits like no cyno and no skilltraining.
You'll be waiting a while. I have no idea why such a thing would be needed. A full sub is only $15 a month, or 50c a day. There's no price niche to fill. If you can't spare $15 a month for entertainment, you've got bigger problems than what you aren't getting for free.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Voxinian
142
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Posted - 2016.11.29 15:35:05 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Voxinian wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Annette Durado wrote:In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. Who's attacked you? I think what you are complaining about is a misinterpretation of what CCP have said, but I wouldn't attack you over it and I can't really see any evidence if attacks in anyone else's posts either. Just having a different view isn't an attack. What has CCP said? I hear and read different things all from the same CCP. One moment I read that Alpha is a free trail without a time limit. And then I watch like a CCP live stream where they are calling Alpha's the new free to play format. I don't think they really know yet what alpha is supposed to be. Anywho... I am waiting for the cheapo sub Beta clone that lets me use all my current trained skills, but with added limits like no cyno and no skilltraining. You'll be waiting a while. I have no idea why such a thing would be needed. A full sub is only $15 a month, or 50c a day. There's no price niche to fill. If you can't spare $15 a month for entertainment, you've got bigger problems than what you aren't getting for free.
It's not about if I can afford it or not, it's about if I think it is worth 15Gé¼ a month... or worth the plex grind. EvE is not the only game we can play you know. If you only play EvE every day then sure it is worth it, but I (and no doubt many others) also like to play and buy other games... which makes EVE with 15Gé¼ a month for a few hours of pew pew not worth it to sub... and Alpha clone is useless for old players with a filled hangar of nice ships you can't fly with. So hence a cheapo Beta clone that does not play like a trail account. The question is, does CCP wants to make 7Gé¼ every month from me or do they want to make 15Gé¼ from me 2 months a year? |
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Havenwar
Eden Inc.
0
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Posted - 2016.11.29 16:30:19 -
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wow a newbie here
it is a great game with stupid community reading forum make me want to leave asap hell |
Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
236
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Posted - 2016.11.29 16:37:39 -
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Havenwar wrote: it is a great game with stupid community reading forum make me want to leave asap hell
I don't know whether you are referring to the OP and the other entitled bunch who really aren't on the bright side of humanity or the knowledgeable yet rude bunch explaining why the OPs complaints aren't justified.
In any event you may behave like 90% of the polulation and leave the forums alon. It is possible to enjoy the game without ever being here. |
Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2016.11.29 17:38:48 -
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It's not that we're not ready for eve, it's just that eve... isn't eve anymore...
Money over players... the worst definition of a "game"
Fair well ccp ! growing older hasn't made you smarter... sad! |
Naye Nathaniel
New.Lab.Era
0
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Posted - 2016.11.30 14:53:38 -
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Voxinian wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Annette Durado wrote:In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. Who's attacked you? I think what you are complaining about is a misinterpretation of what CCP have said, but I wouldn't attack you over it and I can't really see any evidence if attacks in anyone else's posts either. Just having a different view isn't an attack. What has CCP said? I hear and read different things all from the same CCP. One moment I read that Alpha is a free trail without a time limit. And then I watch like a CCP live stream where they are calling Alpha's the new free to play format. I don't think they really know yet what alpha is supposed to be. Anywho... I am waiting for the cheapo sub Beta clone that lets me use all my current trained skills, but with added limits like no cyno and no skilltraining.
+ for that! |
Naye Nathaniel
New.Lab.Era
0
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:01:19 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Voxinian wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Annette Durado wrote:In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. Who's attacked you? I think what you are complaining about is a misinterpretation of what CCP have said, but I wouldn't attack you over it and I can't really see any evidence if attacks in anyone else's posts either. Just having a different view isn't an attack. What has CCP said? I hear and read different things all from the same CCP. One moment I read that Alpha is a free trail without a time limit. And then I watch like a CCP live stream where they are calling Alpha's the new free to play format. I don't think they really know yet what alpha is supposed to be. Anywho... I am waiting for the cheapo sub Beta clone that lets me use all my current trained skills, but with added limits like no cyno and no skilltraining. You'll be waiting a while. I have no idea why such a thing would be needed. A full sub is only $15 a month, or 50c a day. There's no price niche to fill. If you can't spare $15 a month for entertainment, you've got bigger problems than what you aren't getting for free.
1st of all - in europe it's 15euro; Whole europe have to pay in euro even if the currency is 4.2:1 (4.2 of mother currency for 1 euro);
2nd of all - do not take a look into my pocket - i earn and keep what is mine and it's me to decide if I want to pay - for me it's like 3 hours of work to get a gametime - but then.
3rd of all - if ill pay - im forced to play Eve - just not to waste my money which i Paid for it -or grind ISK to buy myself a PLEX -
Where is enjoyment?
Like I said before - Alphas are not free to play - it's a trial accounts which there is low chance u can get an Omega in one month of playing eve as Alpha... 4 mln isk for 1 hour of mining - maybe in two - three months... |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
946
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:05:51 -
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Of cource the game is "free to try/start" and not "free to play", why would anyone pay a buck anymore when it was? Pretty much the same limitation as most other "FTP" games have. And you don't believe adverts litteraly, do you?
But from all FTP games I know EVE is the only one you can grind for a full sub in a moderate amount of time. And once you got your first PLEX ist is quite easy to grind more and stay Omega without paying a dime. Would it be easier to just earn a few bucks and pay the sub? YES! Is there an other FTP game you can stay fully subbed for less than 50 hours grind per month? None I can think of. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
46094
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:09:57 -
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Naye Nathaniel wrote:Like I said before - Alphas are not free to play - .. How much are you paying to play an alpha?
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Wander Prian
Art Of Explosions Hole Control
321
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:12:46 -
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Where does it say that you are supposed to get enough ISK for a PLEX in a month? What guarantee is there that you are able to do it with alpha or even omega? Unless you get really damn lucky, you don't. You need to learn the game first before you start thinking about that.
The good thing aboug alpha is that there is no time-limit. You can play as much or as little as you want, grind for as long as it takes you to get that PLEX, but remember that it will only last a month and then you got to get the next 1,2-1,3 billion for another one.
While you CAN play Eve for free by buying PLEX, it doesn't mean that you are required to do so. Just mindleslly grinding is not what the game is about and will lead you to be burned out of the game.
Wormholer for life.
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Thursday Park-Laine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:16:57 -
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Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme wrote:It's not that we're not ready for eve, it's just that eve... isn't eve anymore...
Money over players... the worst definition of a "game"
Fair well ccp ! growing older hasn't made you smarter... sad!
I am new to EVE and for me it seems quite in line with other game from the "content to price ratio" point of view.
But when I read some comments here it seems like EVE was kind of a charity run by nordic hippies a few years ago. Or are the vets like my grandparents that tend to forgett things like the cold war, the acutal war and normal things like dishwashers beeing luxury goods when they tell me about the golden times they grow up in. |
Thursday Park-Laine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.11.30 15:19:23 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Naye Nathaniel wrote:Like I said before - Alphas are not free to play - .. How much are you paying to play an alpha?
Ssshhh, don't ruin the scam :) |
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