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Drunk Gatekeeper
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.30 00:08:52 -
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2016.11.30 00:20:41 -
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
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Posted - 2016.11.30 01:05:07 -
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GǪ because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op?
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.11.30 12:50:47 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:GǪ because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op? Yep. Rorquals are ISK printing machines at the moment. Easy 300mil ISK/h.
The mineral prices are in a downward spiral. I dont know how CCP could overlook this when they changed the Rorqual. Maybe its intentional? Driving down mineral prices so that Alphas can buy their Vexors for 5mil? |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.12.01 01:37:41 -
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PL is hotdropping people with Rorquals now ... |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
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Posted - 2016.12.01 01:57:39 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:PL is hotdropping people with Rorquals now ...
Why not? They literally pay for themselves :D
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.12.01 02:09:55 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:PL is hotdropping people with Rorquals now ... Why not? They literally pay for themselves :D Yea. I regret now that i havent trained any capital skills. I could be printing ISK 12h a day right now. My accounts would be PLEXed for years in no time. I guess PL and co are already doing that, because mineral prices are going down and PLEX prices up. |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2016.12.01 03:26:03 -
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I swear I saw a thread on the front page last week claiming Rorquals were being massacred. It was all a lie?
Who put the goat in there?
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
6046
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Posted - 2016.12.01 03:47:44 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:I swear I saw a thread on the front page last week claiming Rorquals were being massacred. It was all a lie?
The "massacre" was about double the number of Rorqual kills in a month where Rorquals are being used more than ever before. If CCP releases stats, I would put money on the number of Rorqual flight hours in December to be in the order of ten times higher than October. Thus the mere doubling of number of reported kills indicates that Rorquals are actually five times safer post Ascension in terms of mean time to destruction.
Consider that where an alliance mining fleet might have been one Rorqual boosting twenty hulks, you now have twenty Rorquals mining in the belt.
Null sec kept asking for a capital mining ship, now they have it. Enjoy your minerals income while it lasts. Just goesto show that if you pester CCP long enough they will cave in.
Next up: fuel for cloaking devices, and a mechanism for decloaking those oesky AFK cloakers in null sec.
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Drunk Gatekeeper
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.01 10:29:49 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:GǪ because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op?
Sounds like something a hi-sec miner would say, honestly.
If I had a super and my balls had actually, you know, dropped, I would be all over that ****.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of null-sec do not have any answer to supers dropping on their Rorqual mining fleets. Yet, nobody is really dropping anything on them by the looks of things. I'd have thought PL would have a field day every single day of the week but I guess they aren't that elite after all. |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2016.12.01 10:31:03 -
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Mine is staying docked.
I find the the Rorqual to now be useless in a small group environment. The cost of the drones is also ridiculous, and well beyond my pain threshold.
It spins well though. I even bought the Rosada skin for it. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.12.01 14:37:17 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote: I find the the Rorqual to now be useless in a small group environment. The cost of the drones is also ridiculous, and well beyond my pain threshold.
It spins well though. I even bought the Rosada skin for it.
I agree, small corps paint a big target on them if they put a Rorqual into a belt. Big corps though, who can batphone a captial fleet, can use the Rorqual pretty much risk-free. I wouldnt be surprised if the big guys already have an agreement to not touch the others Rorquals.
All other forms of mining will be obsolete in the near future, if CCP doesnt nerf the Rorqual. Im not expecting a nerf anytime soon though because last time CCP introduced something overpowerd, it took them 2 years to react (Svipul). |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.12.01 14:49:27 -
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Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.
And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.12.01 14:54:46 -
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Mineral prices are dropping so fast, the other trade hubs cant keep up with the price corrections ... Time to move some minerals i guess. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.12.01 15:05:41 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.
And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long. Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk. |
Drunk Gatekeeper
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.01 15:07:20 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.
And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long. Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk.
The only reason there is 'little' risk is because players are protecting other players.
In hi-sec, however, that's not the case. In truth, you shouldn't be able to make any isk in hi-sec at all. But hi-sec has always been the power house of minerals and isk making. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
251
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Posted - 2016.12.01 15:20:34 -
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Drunk Gatekeeper wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.
And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long. Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk. The only reason there is 'little' risk is because players are protecting other players. In hi-sec, however, that's not the case. In truth, you shouldn't be able to make any isk in hi-sec at all. But hi-sec has always been the power house of minerals and isk making. What? The only worthwhile activities in high sec are incursions and trading and both become really mind-numbing after a while. |
Sarah Flynt
Federation Interstellar Resources Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.12.01 18:17:20 -
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I think you're far overestimating how many Rorquals are out there that can be killed. Most people I know have stopped using them and the few who do, don't use the industrial core. They're sitting ducks now, waiting to be slaughtered, unless you're in one of the few groups who can form a sizable, organized defense fleet within 5 minutes or who already have such a fleet up 24/7.
I've several Rorquals myself and they'll stay docked, unless CCP removes the requirement to siege the Rorqual for maximum fleetboosts.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14961
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Posted - 2016.12.01 18:23:26 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:I think you're far overestimating how many Rorquals are out there that can be killed. Most people I know have stopped using them and the few who do, don't use the industrial core. They're sitting ducks now, waiting to be slaughtered, unless you're in one of the few groups who can form a sizable, organized defense fleet within 5 minutes or who already have such a fleet up 24/7.
I've several Rorquals myself and they'll stay docked, unless CCP removes the requirement to siege the Rorqual for maximum fleetboosts.
Well said. I don't have one but some of my mates do, we're in drop range of PL and NC. so smart people keep them docked, and make use of the new Porpoise for boosts.
Amazing how the OP blames null when high sec turned into safe Mining Orca city.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6536
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Posted - 2016.12.01 18:27:54 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.
And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long. I can assure you that my Rorqual is not located in hisec. |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
6050
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Posted - 2016.12.02 00:27:30 -
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Drunk Gatekeeper wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:GǪ because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op? Sounds like something a hi-sec miner would say, honestly. If I had a super and my balls had actually, you know, dropped, I would be all over that ****. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of null-sec do not have any answer to supers dropping on their Rorqual mining fleets. Yet, nobody is really dropping anything on them by the looks of things. I'd have thought PL would have a field day every single day of the week but I guess they aren't that elite after all. Just a bunch of casuals playing this game now days?
Go ahead, hotdrop your super fleet on a PL mining fleet. I believe the technical term for that activity is "welping"?
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
6050
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Posted - 2016.12.02 00:28:54 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Sarah Flynt wrote:I think you're far overestimating how many Rorquals are out there that can be killed. Most people I know have stopped using them and the few who do, don't use the industrial core. They're sitting ducks now, waiting to be slaughtered, unless you're in one of the few groups who can form a sizable, organized defense fleet within 5 minutes or who already have such a fleet up 24/7.
I've several Rorquals myself and they'll stay docked, unless CCP removes the requirement to siege the Rorqual for maximum fleetboosts. Well said. I don't have one but some of my mates do, we're in drop range of PL and NC. so smart people keep them docked, and make use of the new Porpoise for boosts. Amazing how the OP blames null when high sec turned into safe Mining Orca city.
Who is blaming null for anything?
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gfldex
802
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Posted - 2016.12.02 01:25:37 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:The mineral prices are in a downward spiral. I dont know how CCP could overlook this when they changed the Rorqual. Maybe its intentional? Driving down mineral prices so that Alphas can buy their Vexors for 5mil?
Mineral prices _beside_ zyd and mega are going down. The alphas are solving the 5M vexor problem all by themselves. There are not enough Rorquals around to actually do anything to the market and I would not wonder if the mineral output of 0.0 actually went down because of the gank link changes.
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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dartata
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.02 10:00:31 -
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gfldex wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:The mineral prices are in a downward spiral. I dont know how CCP could overlook this when they changed the Rorqual. Maybe its intentional? Driving down mineral prices so that Alphas can buy their Vexors for 5mil? Mineral prices _beside_ zyd and mega are going down. The alphas are solving the 5M vexor problem all by themselves. There are not enough Rorquals around to actually do anything to the market and I would not wonder if the mineral output of 0.0 actually went down because of the gank link changes. Your only kidding yourself then. Rorquals are mining more then ever. 1 Rorqual can do as much as 5 hulls I think it is.. if they have miners to clear out mercoxit they can clear asteroid atoms faster then any mining fleet would before |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
18229
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Posted - 2016.12.03 13:51:42 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.
And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long. Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk. I dont have a problem with stong null sec mining, but with the new Rorqual its too strong IMO and it mainly benefits the big guys like PL or Goons, who are already filthy rich.
A misconception that is popular amongst people who dont live in 0.0
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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