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Wara Ranova
Black Wolf Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.12.05 18:39:36 -
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So I feel like this is a common topic here but I'm not finding a consolidated list. So I recently returned to EVE and have joined a small but growing null pvp corp. While we do get out and kill stuff for fun, as well as roaming with other groups. I want to work on my solo combat. I see all these great highlight reels of people killing it in solo (although i'm sure while it doesn't show the losses it's equally as exhilarating). My problem is every time I fly through low sec I can't find anyone (or if there's people in local I don't know how to track them down), and in null I'm sure everyone has friends that are ready to fly in on the batphone and **** my **** up.
So basically I'm looking for a good place to practice. While I'm aware the practice may be ruthless and I'm ready to blow isk on it, I want to find these people so I can improve my own combat skills. So to keep this short, what systems are good? (FW and such), or what skills do I need to work on? (Scan, D-Scan, etc.).
Thanks all, o7 |
Lucy Callagan
TURN LEFT
198
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Posted - 2016.12.05 22:11:17 -
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1v1 at sun.
All joking aside, Soloers tend to be an unusual sight these days so the best(only ?) way to solo is currently to annoy people, urge them to chase you in a disorganised way and pick them up 1 after the other then gtfo when it overescalates. |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
461
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Posted - 2016.12.06 03:40:08 -
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Wara Ranova wrote:So I feel like this is a common topic here but I'm not finding a consolidated list. So I recently returned to EVE and have joined a small but growing null pvp corp. While we do get out and kill stuff for fun, as well as roaming with other groups. I want to work on my solo combat. I see all these great highlight reels of people killing it in solo (although i'm sure while it doesn't show the losses it's equally as exhilarating). My problem is every time I fly through low sec I can't find anyone (or if there's people in local I don't know how to track them down), and in null I'm sure everyone has friends that are ready to fly in on the batphone and **** my **** up.
So basically I'm looking for a good place to practice. While I'm aware the practice may be ruthless and I'm ready to blow isk on it, I want to find these people so I can improve my own combat skills. So to keep this short, what systems are good? (FW and such), or what skills do I need to work on? (Scan, D-Scan, etc.).
Thanks all, o7
Hevrice is a good starting point, one highsec connection (so you can get in and out easily, is almost never camped) it has 2 lowsec connection, for roaming stop in jovainnon in the one direction (i.e 1 jump out) and stop in melmaniel in the other.
This gives you "Jovainon-hevrice-muetralle-costolle-melmaniel" as systems to hunt in. Its not super active but it gives good solo targets. Mark "The Tuskers" as -10 and never fight those guys (a few of them still live there), theyll never break a (offical) 1v1 and almost always give you fair fights but youll lose them all.
Pretty much all fights will happen at or in FW plex.
Learn to use the dscanner. |
Don Pera Saissore
121
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Posted - 2016.12.06 11:03:48 -
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Trail and error. I you get ganged up by a group dont fight them next time. This means you will loose more than you kill until you get to know the ppl that live in the area and ofc if you move to a different area you have to start the process of elimination from zero |
xStiL
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
0
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Posted - 2016.12.06 21:46:55 -
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Gal/Cal fw area is decent around the citadel/black rise. You can come to Ishomilken. |
Kethen T'val
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
22
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Posted - 2016.12.07 08:16:48 -
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Join RvB and do 1v1s all day |
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
169
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Posted - 2016.12.07 09:08:15 -
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Roaming FW space in T1/pirate frigs is still the easiest way to pick solo fights. Set up a hangar to base out of, maybe a JC too if you want to stay with your 0.0 crew and just weekend warrior the FW scene. Spend a bit of time getting familiar with the terrain and setting up bookmarks, at the very least you'll want an instaundock and warp-to-zero at your base station and bounce points to scan from in systems with objects outside dscan range. Well-connected systems are usually hot (e.g. Amamake, Siseide) so baiting a good 1v1 in those means bouncing around waiting for gangs to thin. I just got back to EvE myself so no idea WTF happened to the in-game browser but http://evemaps.dotlan.net is still a great resource for maps showing the layouts of the FW warzones.
As for dscan, nothing important has changed, just bind a hotkey to "track" then spam 360 spam whenever there's something within max range and if you hit on a potential target use the track key to focus in on objects in overview then move the dscan angle slider down to 5 deg to do a pinpoint scan of the object in focus. I keep a pretty vanilla solo overview but radial velocity is the column I'm watching the most often, negative values means the target is closing on you and positive means you might wanna overheat the scram ;) |
Wara Ranova
Black Wolf Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.12.07 15:02:51 -
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Bump.
I appreciate the great replies from everyone on this thread. Starting this weekend when I can up my funds again a little and finals are over with I'll go ahead and set a base out of somewhere where I can run around and learn the mechanics of this. I'll keep the thread live to see what other suggestions have but I appreciate the time taken to help a fellow pilot.
Fly safe, o7 |
Skelee VI
Wraithguard. The Wraithguard.
61
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Posted - 2016.12.07 17:31:48 -
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Come to Curse I will fight you 1 vs 1 |
Wara Ranova
Black Wolf Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.12.08 16:55:53 -
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Bump. |
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Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
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Posted - 2016.12.08 21:03:22 -
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Use the map, dude! Both in-game maps and dotlan maps show you which systems ships are being popped in so that's where you should roam. It looks like you base out of Geminate? There's routes to Amarr/Min FW space through Forge and Metro low-sec, looks like there's also an out to Great Wildlands which is NPC null so probably home to a few soloers... |
Wara Ranova
Black Wolf Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2016.12.08 21:18:13 -
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Plato Forko wrote:Use the map, dude! Both in-game maps and dotlan maps show you which systems ships are being popped in so that's where you should roam. It looks like you base out of Geminate? There's routes to Amarr/Min FW space through Forge and Metro low-sec, looks like there's also an out to Great Wildlands which is NPC null so probably home to a few soloers...
I have already made plans to find mim FW space and base out of a system there with some cheap-ish ships to learn. Will be starting this Friday. I have used dotlan before and it's a very good resource. However if I may inquire, I see people that can go on a website (which I believe is zkillboard) where they can check a pilot and see what kind of fits he typically loses. For example Pilot X is flying an Astero. And the person will look up Pilot X and see that they lose a lot of Asteros and they are terribly fit. Is that zkillboard they use? And if so where on zkillboard can I find that information. Seems definitely useful in identifying your enemy.
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Wakka Rocka
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2016.12.08 21:23:34 -
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Yes, that is Zkillboard. You can search Zkill for ships or pilots and get all the Kills/Losses/Solo information for that ship/pilot that have been logged on Zkill. You can use the Kill filter to look at their kills and obtain a list of their top 10 ships (by number of kills per ship in the last interval, probably month). You can then filter for their Losses, select an entry, and look at the fit they use. You can also look at the timestamp of the killmails and lossmails to see what time that pilot is most active, where they are most active, who is killing them most often, and how many people contributed to their death.
Zkill is simply an amazing intel-gathering tool. |
May Arethusa
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
224
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Posted - 2016.12.08 22:52:18 -
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Ask. This tends to work better with pirates, but I've seen in progress ganks come screeching to a halt because the bait was asked for a 1v1. It's not as reliable as it used to be, but you'll get some hits if you fly engagable ships.
Alternatively, find a blob and kill all but the last guy, then 1v1 him at your leisure. |
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
169
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Posted - 2016.12.09 01:08:44 -
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Zkill is better for finding out if pilots are in an active gang (any recent KMs) since fits change. pyfa/EFT are also useful since they let you experiment with fits out of game (so no cost), and give you an idea of theoretical max speed or damage range of any hull. |
Wara Ranova
Black Wolf Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.12.09 17:58:46 -
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bump |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
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Posted - 2016.12.10 03:58:23 -
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Stop bumping your own threads. |
Dan Kashada
Missing the point
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Posted - 2016.12.22 15:15:15 -
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Kethen T'val wrote:Join RvB and do 1v1s all day Don't listen to a smurf and join Red Fed |
Dan Kashada
Missing the point
8
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Posted - 2016.12.22 17:27:16 -
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Wara Ranova wrote:Plato Forko wrote:Use the map, dude! Both in-game maps and dotlan maps show you which systems ships are being popped in so that's where you should roam. It looks like you base out of Geminate? There's routes to Amarr/Min FW space through Forge and Metro low-sec, looks like there's also an out to Great Wildlands which is NPC null so probably home to a few soloers... I have already made plans to find mim FW space and base out of a system there with some cheap-ish ships to learn. Will be starting this Friday. I have used dotlan before and it's a very good resource. However if I may inquire, I see people that can go on a website (which I believe is zkillboard) where they can check a pilot and see what kind of fits he typically loses. For example Pilot X is flying an Astero. And the person will look up Pilot X and see that they lose a lot of Asteros and they are terribly fit. Is that zkillboard they use? And if so where on zkillboard can I find that information. Seems definitely useful in identifying your enemy. First thing is first fly around find the systems that have the camps or a lot going (usually the systems with lots of pilots) and avoid these systems till you get the experience, roam the quieter systems find the people doing offensive plexing it's never going to be 100% 1v1 all the time because they could have buddies 1 jump out but like what everyone is telling you it is trail and error sometimes you have to become the pest and get people to chase or pretending you are scared of fighting even could act scared in local chat in which most bigheaded pvper will chase you in the hopes of tears. I tend to find amarr/min FW is pretty poor for solo cal/gal FW is the better place in my opinion |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
379
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Posted - 2016.12.24 08:28:39 -
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they don't exist.
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Tyrana McBitch
Lisnave Spaceship Samurai
21
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Posted - 2016.12.25 03:16:26 -
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I solo, but I pick my fights. So far so good. It takes some time, but it's worth it. Become the hunter |
Draeman Hookah
salty inc.
15
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Posted - 2017.01.02 20:49:16 -
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I've also started trying to get into the PvP portion of EVE via Solo roams. First one was last night and it seems like it's a time consumer for sure.
I started in pretty low-key Low-Sec systems as has been recommended and got one engagement but wasn't able to keep him so that was exciting. Going back out again tonight, I'm tempted to make the trek to Amamake but I don't know if it's still the capital of Pirate space that it used to be.
I'm not looking for specifically 1v1 either, I consider myself a bit of an opportunist. But I'm in my "go out and lose 20 ships" phase of the learning process too. Only thing that seemed to work for me was literally jumping planet to planet (Also holding your mouse on the overview while your warping can show you when you zip past people so you get a feel for where they are and where their "safe spot" is. Found that out by accident. |
Lucy Callagan
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2017.01.06 22:06:10 -
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Draeman Hookah wrote:"go out and lose 20 ships" phase
That's very optimistic,
I lost ~1600 ships on all my chars gathered and i still don't know how to pvp. |
ivona fly
Black Fox Marauders
34
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Posted - 2017.01.12 17:59:34 -
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I never lost a ship in combat.
You are all bads.
i had some blown up but never lost them |
xxsmokealotxx
Megacorp 5000 Pro XL
2
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Posted - 2017.01.13 13:30:00 -
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This kinda falls more into the Tactics side:
Most likely you don't actually want to find the solo PvPers if you're starting out. Because most likely they have done it longer than you and are a lot better at it.
Better bet is to try to lure a non-solo player to come after you and make him think he will have his buddies helps when he catches you.
Or just forget about tactics and attack anything that moves and hope you eventually kill something |
Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2516
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Posted - 2017.01.14 08:28:48 -
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Its pretty much a waste of time. You can literally go for hours from deep null all the way to empire and you''ll almost never get a 1 v 1. You may find solo players or even a duo to fight but from experience they'll never engage you unless they have overwhelming force.
You will invariably get baited into a fight and a cyno gank, or you'll chase someone down a pipe, they'll be in alliance or corp organizing a suprise party for you and won't stop running till their in range.
One thing I have found that will get you fights that you can sometimes win is to let them gank you in the following ship fit. This loss occurred solo fighting NC. Originally it was one ship, which I killed, it then escalated slowly into 2 maladictions, proteus, 2 sleipnirs, a cynabal, a cerberus, then they dropped an aeon and then a hel. Its a tough ass ship that can kill a few and then gtfo even with extreme amounts of firepower on it. Of course it can't tank an aeon and a hel on top of those other ships so it went down but it took them a good 10 minutes. Drop the cloaking device and put on a decent offensive sub and it would have popped a few more before it died. Super expensive though.
[Tengu, L DOPA's Tengu] Damage Control II Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
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CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1393
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Posted - 2017.01.14 08:45:17 -
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Agondray wrote:they don't exist. Why do people with no ******* clue feel that they can congribute to threads?
Either you are being sarcastic, in which case you signature applies, or you just have absolutely no idea of reality. Either way, writing your post serves only to confirm your idiocy.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
472
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Posted - 2017.01.14 09:01:32 -
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To quote myself from another thread:
W0lf Crendraven wrote:So since people everywhere q.q a lot about no solo pvp i decided to test how long it takes to log in, get into a ship and then do some solo pvp and see how long it took me till i got a kill. So, i logged in (in highsec), jumpcloned to a lowsec system where i had a frigate (a succubus): I undock with 7 in local in Ardar, theres 4 t1 frigs in space doing stuff but i cant seem to pointpoint them, also theres a svipul hunting me so after warping around for 1 minute or so with the svipul always following me i decide to move on, i jump into the next system (Flosewin) where i find a hound doing a mission, i go for it but it runs away. Next i move on to Aset. Theres a retribution and a few stealthbombers on scan, but they all clear out quite quickly, i check the surrounding systems but bar a few herons scanning i cant really find anything. So i move back towards Ardar, i find a few more bombers running the fw missions but they all have a brain and manage to warp out (close call with a manticore within 20km once). Ardar itself is also empty bar an algos doing weird stuff, but it always runs when i arrive on grid (being -10 doesnt help). Then i jump into Hadozeko, and there we have a rupture somewhere in space, a tristan in a novice and somwhere a caldary navy hookbill and a retribution. I warp in onto the novice, seeing if the tristan has balls (tristans are so easy to use, and people think they are extremely op, that they usually tend to try above their weight) - it does, although i think its more due to him being very new to the game. https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096535/ Its not really fit very well, and its a t1 frig with t1 mods by a new character, but still - first solo kill 17 minutes after logging in. So i saw the retri and the hookbill on scan ealier and the second the tristan died they both wrote gf in local, which made me curious, dscan was empty for me so i warped to the only complex more then 14 au away (roidiest rage or something), the hookbill is 200km away and the retri 500km. So i decide to burn for the hookbill, it bails when i come within 60km but the retri starts to burn towards me, i oblige and a few minutes later this happens https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096824/ (24 minutes after logging in). Because i was mean to the hookbill pilot in local, claiming he was a coward for not fighting a turret frigate in a hookbill he asked me to 1v1 him inside the novice - https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096969/ (27 minutes after logging in). Then i logged out. So no alts, no fleet, nothing but a solo frigate - within 30 minutes i got 3 kills, 2 of them being actual fights. Which leads to my conclusion that solo pvp is perfectly easy to find and you dont even need more then half an hour to get a few GFs.
Tl:dr got bored, timed how long it took to get a solo kill, 3 1v1s wthiin 30 minutes. |
Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2516
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Posted - 2017.01.14 09:09:10 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:To quote myself from another thread: W0lf Crendraven wrote:So since people everywhere q.q a lot about no solo pvp i decided to test how long it takes to log in, get into a ship and then do some solo pvp and see how long it took me till i got a kill. So, i logged in (in highsec), jumpcloned to a lowsec system where i had a frigate (a succubus): I undock with 7 in local in Ardar, theres 4 t1 frigs in space doing stuff but i cant seem to pointpoint them, also theres a svipul hunting me so after warping around for 1 minute or so with the svipul always following me i decide to move on, i jump into the next system (Flosewin) where i find a hound doing a mission, i go for it but it runs away. Next i move on to Aset. Theres a retribution and a few stealthbombers on scan, but they all clear out quite quickly, i check the surrounding systems but bar a few herons scanning i cant really find anything. So i move back towards Ardar, i find a few more bombers running the fw missions but they all have a brain and manage to warp out (close call with a manticore within 20km once). Ardar itself is also empty bar an algos doing weird stuff, but it always runs when i arrive on grid (being -10 doesnt help). Then i jump into Hadozeko, and there we have a rupture somewhere in space, a tristan in a novice and somwhere a caldary navy hookbill and a retribution. I warp in onto the novice, seeing if the tristan has balls (tristans are so easy to use, and people think they are extremely op, that they usually tend to try above their weight) - it does, although i think its more due to him being very new to the game. https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096535/ Its not really fit very well, and its a t1 frig with t1 mods by a new character, but still - first solo kill 17 minutes after logging in. So i saw the retri and the hookbill on scan ealier and the second the tristan died they both wrote gf in local, which made me curious, dscan was empty for me so i warped to the only complex more then 14 au away (roidiest rage or something), the hookbill is 200km away and the retri 500km. So i decide to burn for the hookbill, it bails when i come within 60km but the retri starts to burn towards me, i oblige and a few minutes later this happens https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096824/ (24 minutes after logging in). Because i was mean to the hookbill pilot in local, claiming he was a coward for not fighting a turret frigate in a hookbill he asked me to 1v1 him inside the novice - https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096969/ (27 minutes after logging in). Then i logged out. So no alts, no fleet, nothing but a solo frigate - within 30 minutes i got 3 kills, 2 of them being actual fights. Which leads to my conclusion that solo pvp is perfectly easy to find and you dont even need more then half an hour to get a few GFs. Tl:dr got bored, timed how long it took to get a solo kill, 3 1v1s wthiin 30 minutes. They don't look solo. Two ships on each one. Besides they're frigates, whats the point, I could undock from any hub in highsec and get frigate fights all day long. They're so cheap its pointless.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
472
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Posted - 2017.01.15 00:26:39 -
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Frigate pvp is still pvp, and a t2 frig or a pirate one is usually a lot more pricey then a t1 cruiser (after insurance). And it was proper solo pvp, why there were 2 people on the mail is explained perfectly well in the test (they fought each other very briefly earlier).
And the question was where to find solo pvpers, not where to find none frigate solo pvpers. Frigate pvp is by far the easiest pvp to find in eve, its plentifull and everywhere. |
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Darth Magus
The Lone Magus
7
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Posted - 2017.01.21 03:28:17 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its pretty much a waste of time. You can literally go for hours from deep null all the way to empire and you''ll almost never get a 1 v 1. You may find solo players or even a duo to fight but from experience they'll never engage you unless they have overwhelming force.
You will invariably get baited into a fight and a cyno gank, or you'll chase someone down a pipe, they'll be in alliance or corp organizing a suprise party for you and won't stop running till their in range.
..snip...
ugh...so false...
I mean yeah - if you are not good at "data mining" and tactics/analytics - you will get "cyno-baited" and "gang-baited" alot...
I mean even with 100% sure intel, there is always a chance that the "statistically perceived solo target" may use a cyno - just because they decided on that day to switch things up - and you were just at the wrong time in the wrong place and ended up being their first ever cyno-bait kill...
that happens...
but for the most part solo PVP is there, and you can find a target - as someone above posted, roughly in 20-30min (or even couple targets) depending on which space you're in...
again - it mostly comes down to your "tribal knowledge" of the space that you operate in, which people/corps/alliances to avoid (blobbers + hotdroppers), and then your knowledge of the actual "ship pvp" and the "meta" comes second...
Your solo "pwnmobile" and the meta you use in soloing is only as good as the knowledge of your target environment...
EDIT:
Infinity Ziona wrote: They don't look solo. Two ships on each one. Besides they're frigates, whats the point, I could undock from any hub in highsec and get frigate fights all day long. They're so cheap its pointless.
because fighting in anything bigger (although you can def experiment with t2-frig or dessie, or t3d or even Cruiser) - but the bigger the size of the ship - the slower it does everything (warps/locks/kills/dies) - which allows your enemy to get possible reinforcements...
unfortunately using smaller ships is part of the "solo PVP" meta (there are some exceptions, where you can use bigger ships, but they are very rare)...
frigs ususally die(or kill their target) in under 40sec...dessier do so in under a minute... that window is perfect for solo PVP...
go bigger - and fights will last 2-3 min at which point you are usually in trouble... |
Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2520
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Posted - 2017.01.22 07:34:45 -
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Darth Magus wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Its pretty much a waste of time. You can literally go for hours from deep null all the way to empire and you''ll almost never get a 1 v 1. You may find solo players or even a duo to fight but from experience they'll never engage you unless they have overwhelming force.
You will invariably get baited into a fight and a cyno gank, or you'll chase someone down a pipe, they'll be in alliance or corp organizing a suprise party for you and won't stop running till their in range.
..snip...
ugh...so false... I mean yeah - if you are not good at "data mining" and tactics/analytics - you will get "cyno-baited" and "gang-baited" alot... I mean even with 100% sure intel, there is always a chance that the "statistically perceived solo target" may use a cyno - just because they decided on that day to switch things up - and you were just at the wrong time in the wrong place and ended up being their first ever cyno-bait kill... that happens... but for the most part solo PVP is there, and you can find a target - as someone above posted, roughly in 20-30min (or even couple targets) depending on which space you're in... again - it mostly comes down to your "tribal knowledge" of the space that you operate in, which people/corps/alliances to avoid (blobbers + hotdroppers), and then your knowledge of the actual "ship pvp" and the "meta" comes second... Your solo "pwnmobile" and the meta you use in soloing is only as good as the knowledge of your target environment...EDIT: Infinity Ziona wrote: They don't look solo. Two ships on each one. Besides they're frigates, whats the point, I could undock from any hub in highsec and get frigate fights all day long. They're so cheap its pointless.
because fighting in anything bigger (although you can def experiment with t2-frig or dessie, or t3d or even Cruiser) - but the bigger the size of the ship - the slower it does everything (warps/locks/kills/dies) - which allows your enemy to get possible reinforcements... unfortunately using smaller ships is part of the "solo PVP" meta (there are some exceptions, where you can use bigger ships, but they are very rare)... frigs ususally die(or kill their target) in under 40sec...dessier do so in under a minute... that window is perfect for solo PVP... go bigger - and fights will last 2-3 min at which point you are usually in trouble... Frigate PvP is pointless. It's a frigate, worth almost nothing, even the expensive frigs being worth less an average single faction module used on a cruiser or higher. Is it pvp? Not really in terms of EvE. It takes longer to recover from armor damage from PvE death in WoW
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
474
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Posted - 2017.01.22 23:19:07 -
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A priate frig usually is worth a lot more then even the average BC, especially after insurance. |
Taurean Eltanin
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
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Posted - 2017.01.23 11:11:02 -
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Quote:Frigate PvP is pointless. It's a frigate, worth almost nothing, even the expensive frigs being worth less an average single faction module used on a cruiser or higher. Is it pvp? Not really in terms of EvE. It takes longer to recover from armor damage from PvE death in WoW
As W0lf has already pointed out, faction frigates are typically more expensive than most T1 destroyers, cruisers, or battle cruisers. They are about on par with T3 destroyers, which are another excellent solo ship.
In fact, solo pvp strongly favours fast, agile ships (which, by their nature, tend to be small). This is because while you may be flying solo, New Eden is filled with pilots who are not. Being able to evade larger groups is a critical roaming skill.
And of course, much pvp is non-consensual. So you need to be fast enough to catch the pilots trying to evade you.
Solo pvp is not about the value destroyed (although we all love a blingy killmail, of course), but about testing yourself against other pilots, both in the fight, and in the hunt that leads up to it. If you want to pad your killboard, you are better off just joining a null sec corp and getting in a few fleet battles.
And it is most certainly out there. I got six solo kills - several of them destroyers - in the course of a fairly relaxed afternoon yesterday. And, yes, I was flying a frigate.
If you like reading about low sec piracy or faction warfare, you might enjoy my blog.
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Cearain
Plus 10 NV It Burns When I'm PvPing
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Posted - 2017.01.23 18:01:12 -
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I guess there is some amount of subjectivity here.
Of the 21 billion in isk I lost (on this character) I much prefer to have thousands of fights where I lose 10 mill a pop rather than say 7 fights where I lost 3 bill at a time. I can't say the actual pvp is just as much fun in a cheaper ship as it is in a more expensive one. I have had the most fun flying a rupture (before it was "rebalanced") and t1 frigates and destroyers.
As to the op keep in mind that the meta is very different in high, low, null and wormholes. My main experience in high sec was in rvb. I still think this is a great way to learn pvp. The meta is very similar to fw low sec. My most experience is in low sec fw and I think it is the best for solo.
I haven't had much experience in wh and the experience I have had was pretty lame. No local means allot of time wasted only to find cloaked friends if you want to engage. But again I don't have much experience there.
Null sec is much more gang oriented and organized than low sec. Bubbles make it so just about everyone has an mwd, so fitting a scram can really pay off. Also solo there is often a matter of trying to catch ratters who are not pvp fit. At least compared to low sec. Your just not going to find too many pve fit ships to kill in low sec.
I much prefer fw low sec. However I do agree that the frigate menace is higher there. If you fly a larger ship you have to have a plan for getting swarmed by smaller ships. It doesn't help that ccp is constantly "rebalancing" ships by dropping utility highs so you can neut smaller ships to help you gain transversal. The rapid lights help for missile ships but many ships still don't get a bonus for them - such as the cyclone and caldari navy caracal.
CCP did help battleships with new grappler webs but I am not sure how well that will work against frigates.
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Annabelle Le
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.26 02:47:10 -
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There are some really good points here and It may be easy for some to find 1vs1 pvp. But for a new player its fairly hard unless you are just wanting to collect insurance. |
Cearain
Plus 10 NV It Burns When I'm PvPing
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Posted - 2017.01.27 15:49:09 -
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Annabelle Le wrote:There are some really good points here and It may be easy for some to find 1vs1 pvp. But for a new player its fairly hard unless you are just wanting to collect insurance.
Even veteran players will hit some bad streaks. I am getting back into solo pvp and have just now lost like 7 ships in a row without a single kill. Each time I made small mistakes that cost me the fight. Its important to think about this and try to determine if you were just fighting a fight that could not be won or if you made some mistakes that cost you. With experience you will learn to take fights you can win. With more experience you will learn how much you can push the envelope and take on more fights than you thought. Sure it can get to be depressing to replay a fight and think Why didn't I over heat faster? Why did I overheat too long? Why didn't I see he was arty fit faster? why did I not see I was losing transversal? and of course with all of these losses there is the ever present: "Why must I lose to this idiot?"
But remember there will be good streaks too. There will be times when you get lucky due to your opponents mistakes.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Annabelle Le
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.28 00:32:21 -
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Another thing about finding fights that's annoying is the security and standing loss. You fly around in FW and see LP farmers and if they aren't in the opposing militia you can't touch them with out taking a hit to your standing. I guess I don't have a problem with that except you don't gain standing from killing some one in the opposing militia. |
Aves Asio
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Posted - 2017.01.28 10:09:11 -
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Dont listen to the bads in this thread. Solo is out there you just have to find it. You have to know your capabilities and your targets weakness, you have to know the area and the people that live in it. Basically solo requires a lot of skill. |
Cearain
Plus 10 NV It Burns When I'm PvPing
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Posted - 2017.01.30 16:04:50 -
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I just wanted to post and say that I have found this to be one of the best times for solo pvp in fw space. The only other time that might compete with now is the time right after inferno hit. IMO both then and now is the most fights you will ever get as a solo pvpers. I lost quite a few ships but in every loss I can think of, I can honestly say I had my chances and it was due to mistakes I made during the fight.
Mentally this is a huge difference than the days where I would lose a fight because I was just fighting someone with a booster alt and really had no chance. I think this has indeed brought allot of solo fighters back. And for all the people who said putting links on grid would just lead to more falcon alts and remote rep alts - I haven't run into that a single time. (although I have been avoiding certain systems) Thank you ccp.
BTW I was in Amarr Minmatar FW space.
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Perkutor Jakuard
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2017.02.03 00:35:19 -
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Use the map Luke, draws the contested level of a fw system.
Places with very low contested levels are defended actively by the militia, if you are in their timeframe you'll got probably blobed there, find systems with a higher grade then.
Often fw players just ignore you if you are not in the opossite millitia.
Being a pirate I had solo engages naming my ship as "1 vs 1" and waiting a bit in the "plexes", spaming the local asking for 1 vs 1 also worked well.
If you accord the duel in the chat I recommend you to form fleet with your oponent and jump to an save spot just to not to be disturbed by other players during the duel.
In high sec I've seen duels in populated areas, but I never do it personally tbh.
In Amar/MIn area avoid Huola and Koumonen, too hot, the surrounding systems like kamela and so on it's ok for solo and small gangs.
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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
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Posted - 2017.02.06 10:17:55 -
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Cearain wrote:I just wanted to post and say that I have found this to be one of the best times for solo pvp in fw space. The only other time that might compete with now is the time right after inferno hit. IMO both then and now is the most fights you will ever get as a solo pvpers. I lost quite a few ships but in every loss I can think of, I can honestly say I had my chances and it was due to mistakes I made during the fight.
Mentally this is a huge difference than the days where I would lose a fight because I was just fighting someone with a booster alt and really had no chance. I think this has indeed brought allot of solo fighters back. And for all the people who said putting links on grid would just lead to more falcon alts and remote rep alts - I haven't run into that a single time. (although I have been avoiding certain systems) Thank you ccp.
BTW I was in Amarr Minmatar FW space. Imo after inferno frig/dessie fw low-sec was better. Meta was more diverse as strange as it sounds. There were brawlers, scram-kiters, anti scram-kiters, kiters and snipers. Now after long range guns rebalance scram-kiting made anti scram-kiting (13-17km engagement) almost obsolete 'cause every (almost every) sc-kiter can project to kite ranges of 20-28km. |
Lucian Skord
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.08 14:43:32 -
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Keep d scanning when u find something even as u engage them if u see more coming try to run
If ur really fast u could try to pull a tackler from a gang and kill it.
lure him like 120 km from his friends ( so they can't warp to him) turn around overheat blap him fast then burn off |
Kaivarian Coste
Stellar Supply
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Posted - 2017.02.19 17:52:14 -
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Solo is pretty easy to find in FW lowsec. What you want to fly in is in a T1. Everyone will fight a T1. You'll lose often, but popping a pricey faction or T2 ship with a T1 feels awesome. |
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