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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: NeverL on 11/04/2007 21:54:17 damn concord is corrupt, i attacked a noob corp alt in yulai and i didnt get concordokkened
privateers are doing a good job
if ur not ready to play this game dont leave the noob corp. if ur ready, step into the real world and kill someone.
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hedfunk
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.11 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mortok Tristan Le Skunk,
Some ppl are misusing your system to bring down industrial alliances, lets face it 50M isk is a small price to pay to watch an industrial alliance week after week beeing griefed to extinction.... resorting to meta-gaming , alts etc, is not the solution to this problem, anyway ccp is changing the wardec system, i am waiting to see how this will progress...
What indy corp, how many times oes this have to be said, we war big alliances and ppl who we're paid to war. We don't activley hunt down people. So if a orp is being greifed into submission week after week, it's becuse they're stupid enough to walk into our gate camps constantly.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.12 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Barbara Nichole I'll be flamed for this I'm sure.. but I think that if you dec it should require you to voluntarily give up concord protection across the board during and for up to 2 weeks after the war is concluded. Anyone should be able to shoot at you. Concord has no reason at all to appreciate war decs going on in Empire. Maybe this would at least end some of the frivolous war decs.
Also, I hear complaints about "carebears" leaving after a dec all the time (As if this in not something we see in the real world). What they fail to admit is how many leave in the deccing corp as well; I've seen this trend just as often.
thats a bit harsh. It would break any sort of industrial players to even be in pvp corps.
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Infinity MKII
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Posted - 2007.04.12 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mortok Tristan Le Skunk,
Some ppl are misusing your system to bring down industrial alliances, lets face it 50M isk is a small price to pay to watch an industrial alliance week after week beeing griefed to extinction....
Corporations do this all the time in real life, then buy out the company when it fails, rip it to peices and sell off the parts. Is it wrong? Maybe. Is it normal human behaviour, sure.
Take a look at the Machevillian period and see how they worked, in fact the whole of history is littered with economic political warfare as well as the standard type of fighting. This is normal behaviour and should be encouraged because it brings more depth to EvE.
And unlike real life, you can choose to become impervious to violence in EvE, so there is an answer, you just refuse to take it.
Infinity Ziona
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.12 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Thread Winner on 12/04/2007 02:09:42 If anything Corporations need to be more sucesptible to be put in positions to surrender instead of disband + reform.
He who controls the privateers controls the universe!
(in empire anyways)
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Thread Winner Edited by: Thread Winner on 12/04/2007 02:09:42 If anything Corporations need to be more sucesptible to be put in positions to surrender instead of disband + reform.
He who controls the privateers controls the universe!
(in empire anyways)
When a corporation surrenders, the winning party should get all their stuff... ALL their stuff
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.12 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Thread Winner Edited by: Thread Winner on 12/04/2007 02:09:42 If anything Corporations need to be more sucesptible to be put in positions to surrender instead of disband + reform.
He who controls the privateers controls the universe!
(in empire anyways)
When a corporation surrenders, the winning party should get all their stuff... ALL their stuff
AFAIK when you surrender (actually surrender not drop alliance to avoid war) you have to meet the CEO of the winning corps demands.
Fight against log off tactics to protect your space from isk farmers! |
Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2007.04.12 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Barbara Nichole I'll be flamed for this I'm sure.. but I think that if you dec it should require you to voluntarily give up concord protection across the board during and for up to 2 weeks after the war is concluded. Anyone should be able to shoot at you. Concord has no reason at all to appreciate war decs going on in Empire. Maybe this would at least end some of the frivolous war decs.
Also, I hear complaints about "carebears" leaving after a dec all the time (As if this in not something we see in the real world). What they fail to admit is how many leave in the deccing corp as well; I've seen this trend just as often.
I actully like this idea
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.12 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Originally by: Barbara Nichole I'll be flamed for this I'm sure.. but I think that if you dec it should require you to voluntarily give up concord protection across the board during and for up to 2 weeks after the war is concluded. Anyone should be able to shoot at you. Concord has no reason at all to appreciate war decs going on in Empire. Maybe this would at least end some of the frivolous war decs.
Also, I hear complaints about "carebears" leaving after a dec all the time (As if this in not something we see in the real world). What they fail to admit is how many leave in the deccing corp as well; I've seen this trend just as often.
I actully like this idea
In that case you should be able to declare yourself an enemy of the state and you can attack everything and everything can attack you.
Fight against log off tactics to protect your space from isk farmers! |
Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2007.04.12 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: hedfunk
Originally by: Mortok Tristan Le Skunk,
Some ppl are misusing your system to bring down industrial alliances, lets face it 50M isk is a small price to pay to watch an industrial alliance week after week beeing griefed to extinction.... resorting to meta-gaming , alts etc, is not the solution to this problem, anyway ccp is changing the wardec system, i am waiting to see how this will progress...
What indy corp, how many times oes this have to be said, we war big alliances and ppl who we're paid to war. We don't activley hunt down people. So if a orp is being greifed into submission week after week, it's becuse they're stupid enough to walk into our gate camps constantly.
Keep insulting everyone, that will do wonders to privateers reputation. Like i said lets see what CCP has done to the wardec system... coming soon(tm)...
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Ashaz
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Posted - 2007.04.12 08:05:00 -
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bah. Privateers are a bunch of cowards.
They claim to be big bad pvpers, but all I ever see them do is sit in gatecamps killing lone targets. As soon as anyone arives with enough force to take them on, they flee.
All they realy do is stop people from running missions while the dec is active. not worth chaseing them, and no real threat if you know how to handle yourself.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 12/04/2007 08:55:44
Originally by: Ashaz bah. Privateers are a bunch of cowards.
They claim to be big bad pvpers, but all I ever see them do is sit in gatecamps killing lone targets. As soon as anyone arives with enough force to take them on, they flee.
All they realy do is stop people from running missions while the dec is active. not worth chaseing them, and no real threat if you know how to handle yourself.
Actually, a couple of us ran into a lone wardecced guy in a retriever once... good day that was
And I used my scanner and everything so I actually went out and tried to find him... then my buddy accidently warped into him
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
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Jade Grimpkin
Trader's Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.12 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity MKII
Originally by: Mortok Tristan Le Skunk,
Some ppl are misusing your system to bring down industrial alliances, lets face it 50M isk is a small price to pay to watch an industrial alliance week after week beeing griefed to extinction....
Corporations do this all the time in real life, then buy out the company when it fails, rip it to peices and sell off the parts. Is it wrong? Maybe. Is it normal human behaviour, sure.
Take a look at the Machevillian period and see how they worked, in fact the whole of history is littered with economic political warfare as well as the standard type of fighting. This is normal behaviour and should be encouraged because it brings more depth to EvE.
And unlike real life, you can choose to become impervious to violence in EvE, so there is an answer, you just refuse to take it.
Infinity Ziona
Now that would be awesome, giving us proper industrial corps a way of buying up a company and ripping them to pieces. At the moment the economic side of warfare is sadly dominated by the "i've got an enormous spaceship and i'm going to camp you" which, although subtle, isn't reaching the depths i was hoping.
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Thread Winner
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.12 09:35:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Thread Winner on 12/04/2007 09:31:11
Originally by: Jade Grimpkin
Originally by: Infinity MKII
Originally by: Mortok Tristan Le Skunk,
Some ppl are misusing your system to bring down industrial alliances, lets face it 50M isk is a small price to pay to watch an industrial alliance week after week beeing griefed to extinction....
Corporations do this all the time in real life, then buy out the company when it fails, rip it to peices and sell off the parts. Is it wrong? Maybe. Is it normal human behaviour, sure.
Take a look at the Machevillian period and see how they worked, in fact the whole of history is littered with economic political warfare as well as the standard type of fighting. This is normal behaviour and should be encouraged because it brings more depth to EvE.
And unlike real life, you can choose to become impervious to violence in EvE, so there is an answer, you just refuse to take it.
Infinity Ziona
Now that would be awesome, giving us proper industrial corps a way of buying up a company and ripping them to pieces. At the moment the economic side of warfare is sadly dominated by the "i've got an enormous spaceship and i'm going to camp you" which, although subtle, isn't reaching the depths i was hoping.
Buy 51% of X corps shares and go crazy
Fight against log off tactics to protect your space from isk farmers! |
Jade Grimpkin
Trader's Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.12 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Grimpkin on 12/04/2007 09:47:57 Edited by: Jade Grimpkin on 12/04/2007 09:47:44 Yeah. but I'm doubting most pirate corps would sell. There was that unfortate krazed killer kitties from kent corp that got in a bit of trouble like that.
I'm not against war decs, it's just a bit of diversity in how one fights them would be nice.
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hedfunk
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: hedfunk on 12/04/2007 11:32:07
Originally by: Mortok Tristan
Originally by: hedfunk
Originally by: Mortok Tristan Le Skunk,
Some ppl are misusing your system to bring down industrial alliances, lets face it 50M isk is a small price to pay to watch an industrial alliance week after week beeing griefed to extinction.... resorting to meta-gaming , alts etc, is not the solution to this problem, anyway ccp is changing the wardec system, i am waiting to see how this will progress...
What indy corp, how many times oes this have to be said, we war big alliances and ppl who we're paid to war. We don't activley hunt down people. So if a orp is being greifed into submission week after week, it's becuse they're stupid enough to walk into our gate camps constantly.
Keep insulting everyone, that will do wonders to privateers reputation. Like i said lets see what CCP has done to the wardec system... coming soon(tm)...
I'm insulting no one. I'm pointing out fact. If your corps ships keep getting blown up by the privs, it's because you're giving us them by walking straight into our gatecamps 'week after week'. After just one week, they should know the areas we hang out...
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djenghis jan
Amarr Pilier des Bananes
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:57:00 -
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I wonder if we could get a dev response on the issue and maybe a timetrack on how soon they will change the war deccing system to rectify the situation.
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:27:00 -
[228]
Originally by: djenghis jan I wonder if we could get a dev response on the issue and maybe a timetrack on how soon they will change the war deccing system to rectify the situation.
There is no situation
SKUNK
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Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:44:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: djenghis jan I wonder if we could get a dev response on the issue and maybe a timetrack on how soon they will change the war deccing system to rectify the situation.
There is no situation
SKUNK
There is a situation
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mortok Tristan
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: djenghis jan I wonder if we could get a dev response on the issue and maybe a timetrack on how soon they will change the war deccing system to rectify the situation.
There is no situation
SKUNK
There is a situation
There is no situation
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
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djenghis jan
Amarr Pilier des Bananes
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Posted - 2007.04.12 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: djenghis jan on 12/04/2007 15:50:31 Edited by: djenghis jan on 12/04/2007 15:50:10 Edited by: djenghis jan on 12/04/2007 15:49:43
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Mortok Tristan
Originally by: Le Skunk
Yeah yeah, there is no spoon. But surely feeding a baby porrage is harder than this. One can be pro or con but objectively one must admit that playing the game before privateers is not the same as it is now for those on the recieving end of this non-consensual play style. The phrase "non-consensual" says it all. So people will adapt either by corp rotation or similar tactics or the war deccing system will be changed. Its just who gets tired first the devs or the players
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Auldare
The Ninja Coalition Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 16:01:00 -
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What is currently being done has happened all throughout eve's lifespan. The only difference from what I see is that Privateers are the first to bring it to such a scale. There always used to be small corps deccing corps either through merc contracts or for pure extorsion. This is not something new it's just people now can put a face to it more.
I have in my day been part of wars against people who thought they were powerful and became arrogant due to their mistaken beliefs and it was their fellow corp members who always cried that we were griefing them.
From what I can gather (just got back in the game a few weeks ago after a year break) Privateers seem to be going for the larger alliances alt corps etc, I may be wrong and would be grateful for anyone to bring me up to speed on the whole ethos of the Privateers.
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Daimos Bellurdan
Black Reign FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 16:04:00 -
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While I am not fond of the Privateers (who is?) I must say that this thread is hilarious. Its just great to see all those carebears go crazy. Its funny to see that hardly anyone wants to fight back or GET MERCS. Its always: this is bad/an exploit/bugged because I can not play the way I want to. I am sorry to say this but: In eve you are not safe anywhere. Again: You can be killed anywhere at any time without any reasons. This was one of the central points when eve was developed (together with risk = reward). If you want to be totaly secure you are simply playing the wrong game. So adapt. There are a lot of ways to deal with the situation but it involves thinking, resources and teamwork. But thats exactly what eve is about.
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djenghis jan
Amarr Pilier des Bananes
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Posted - 2007.04.12 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Daimos Bellurdan So adapt. There are a lot of ways to deal with the situation but it involves thinking, resources and teamwork.
Well i gues this is true, and i gues i did adapt there are lots of ways one can use to evade playing the game others want to play.
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Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2007.04.12 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Daimos Bellurdan blah blah blah.
Fighting an enemy that stays in 1 alliance fine, fighting a blob of ever changing corps ? whats the point..
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Dzil
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Posted - 2007.04.12 17:20:00 -
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Privateers in empire, and racketeers in 0.0. It's like if you undock you can be blown up, or something.
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Scrutineer
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Posted - 2007.04.12 19:24:00 -
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Eve is PvP game. But there has always been room for a range of playing styles. CCPÆs game ads promise players a range of playing styles, and relatively secure areas. Three quotes from the current official player guide, from a web page near you:
1) ôEVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner ...... no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourself.ö 2) ôThe high security areas are a safe place to start, until you are ready to venture into the more aggressive areas of the game.ö
3) ôRemain in your empire's space until you are willing to risk what you can afford to lose in the more aggressive areas of space.ö
CCP should remember their promises. Some players have come to Eve, and found that they can have fun as a carebear in high-sec., and have no desire to go to the æmore aggressive areasÆ. This is a good thing. It is a strength of the game, not a weakness. They should not be nerfed.
The thing is that Privateering is fun! Mostly for the privateers, but not just them. They have created something interesting within the game; but something against its declared spirit (well, against the CCP marketing statements above anyhow). Basically, CCP has now made itself an unnecessary game balance problem. It needs to give some space back to the carebears, but ALSO change or replace the Wardeccing of Hi-Sec corps with something which is as much - or more - fun. No idea what that should be. Be amazed if it manages to do this without hacking a lot of people off, and loosing subscribers from one side of the argument or the other. Needs to put more thought into changes in future!
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Emeal Zohlah
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.12 23:32:00 -
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As far as I have been reading in this thread, the Privateers are the ones, who want their cake and eat it too. Lets harken back to the days of the real Privateers. You could work for the English, Spanish, Portugese, or even French and Italians had theirs. However, if an English privateer docked in a Spanish port, a good hanging was the least of his worries.
So lets bring this idea forward. If you commit an act of piracy in Caldari space, you can't dock at any station in Caldari space and so on for each of the empires. An act of piracy is defined as looting any player ship that was not yours before it was destroyed. This allows for the wardeccing but takes the incentive of the Privateers away unless they are really serious about being pirates.
And for all of you big, bad 3 and 4 year old players targeting 3 and 4 month old noobs, I have a solution. Faction standing is reduced by the difference in months of the attacker to defender. A 36 month player destroying the ship of a 3 month player would lose 3.3 points of faction standing and it would double if the defender is 'gooed'.
If you want to brag about being all big and bad and mean then fess up and take the consequences as all pirates in the past had to.
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Terranid Meester
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.04.13 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Emeal Zohlah targeting 3 and 4 month old noobs Quote:
To quote from somewhere else. "A noob or n00b is someone that lacks intelligence or common sense"
If thats the kind of people being killed then Im glad. Heres hoping they all get wiped out.
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DragonRiderTao
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Posted - 2007.04.13 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Terranid Meester
Originally by: Emeal Zohlah targeting 3 and 4 month old noobs Quote:
To quote from somewhere else. "A noob or n00b is someone that lacks intelligence or common sense"
If thats the kind of people being killed then Im glad. Heres hoping they all get wiped out.
Some people don't distinguish between noob and newb. He meant newb as the 3 months part should explain.
Real pirates live in 0.0 and kill player corps pilots.
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