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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
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Posted - 2016.12.10 03:45:13 -
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Oh!
Looks like everyone got their wish.
CCP Bidder.
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
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Princess Adhara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2016.12.10 04:25:32 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Interesting tidbit for you. In the U.S., you are more likely to die from being hit by an asteroid than die from a terrorist attack. By a large percentage. Just one of those little things we students of statistics find interesting. Mr Epeen
Did you know 77.8% of statistics quotations are actually made up? <- That's another little thing students of statistics find interesting.
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Jojcia
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.10 04:42:24 -
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NCSoft will buy - all item drop rates will be set automaticaly to 0,000000001% - bounties from rats will be 1000 ISK max - P2W cash shop - P2W events |
Marzom Dread
Coroner's Report
23
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Posted - 2016.12.10 04:46:31 -
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Well, it was fun while it lasted. |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
123
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Posted - 2016.12.10 05:18:59 -
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Hopefully they won't screw up my little niche, but if they do then I'll have to find another game where three, home-built rather high end gaming computers (Well, three years ago) can find a place to waste time in a creative sort of way.
The first rule of corporate philosophy is "Maximum Profit, No Matter The Cost" so if they can realize a percentage point or two more profit by attracting the airhead, instant gratification bunch rather than the cunning, scheming, feral and bats**it crazy players who spend time and effort creating ever more innovative ways to blow stuff up (the current crew), well, then that's not just the way the world works but also, if you stop to think about it, the way Eve works.
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Kousaka Otsu Shigure
51
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Posted - 2016.12.10 05:21:28 -
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Once I read this line from some chat/blog or whatever, that went like this: there are personalities/groups that have been trying to kill EvE for some time now. I thought at that time it referred to a certain null group, because of the other things the text was talking about. But now, having read much more eve related stuff, I guess there is truth to what that line said.
I was in an alpha char last week, chatting up some new players and this guy suddenly starts spouting about 'playing eve (for the time being) while waiting for Star Citizen'. He wasn't really badmouthing eve but the bittervets in the npc corp suddenly _erupted_ at the comments of the guy about SC (quotable: how it was a game designed for computers of teh future! The future he says!)
O'course I egged him on, kept the flames high and much entertainment was had in an otherwise boring night.
I thought then, was this guy actually ADVERTISING SC on EvE? With an alpha account? You know the way he talked and how he claimed he was '..from the industry.'.. I was thinking he worked on SC itself, LOL.
So you wanna bury eve online? Get in line, people have been trying for the past X years..
edit: huh, reading some of the posts here.. must be part of that personalities/groups mentioned..
Archiver, Software Developer and Data Slave
Current Project Status: Now for the fun part: Generating Tags
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8056
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Posted - 2016.12.10 05:39:31 -
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Chribba wrote:Relax,it's only me
Imagine if the players, instead of crying and shooting a monument, put their bucks together and bought the company.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8290
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Posted - 2016.12.10 06:06:28 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Why are we excluding Disney et al. from the list of potential buyers?
We aren't. Disney outsource gaming licenses to EA.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8290
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Posted - 2016.12.10 06:08:35 -
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BlkQueen wrote:Its an MMO and they get sold eventually. Get over it and get used to it. I wouldn't mind another company owning this game, maybe they will put more content into it other than allowing trolling and griefing by aholes. Oh and I got no problem with the bounties that will be put on this character now that I posted that, its my alt and I never use her. Have at it B---hs! I hope this game is sold to EA or Blizz and gutted into a real game.
Oh I'll get over it and get used to it just fine, by moving on to something else. This is as much a real game as any other, and you wanting to turn it into a carebear's themepark dream is entirely your problem. If this game, as is, is too hard for you, then play something else.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Beta Maoye
143
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Posted - 2016.12.10 07:05:20 -
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The news said the investors are thinking of selling the company CCP which includes Eve, Valkyrie, Gunjack and Project Nova. If someone wants to buy CCP, he is probably paying his attention on the intellectual property of VR, not the old game Eve. |
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1290
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Posted - 2016.12.10 07:38:43 -
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Beta Maoye wrote:The news said the investors are thinking of selling the company CCP which includes Eve, Valkyrie, Gunjack and Project Nova. If someone wants to buy CCP, he is probably paying his attention on the intellectual property of VR, not the old game Eve. Not paying attention to the largest share of employees and infrastructure and more than half the income?
That would be a pretty stupid investor.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Beta Maoye
143
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Posted - 2016.12.10 08:38:01 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Beta Maoye wrote:The news said the investors are thinking of selling the company CCP which includes Eve, Valkyrie, Gunjack and Project Nova. If someone wants to buy CCP, he is probably paying his attention on the intellectual property of VR, not the old game Eve. Not paying attention to the largest share of employees and infrastructure and more than half the income? That would be a pretty stupid investor. Venture capitals tend to look for businesses with possibilities of high growth rate, like VR, biotechnology, artificial intelligence. They are having less interest in matured business, like a 13 years old MMO, with limited growth. |
Leucy Kerastase
650BN
34
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Posted - 2016.12.10 09:36:26 -
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More like, "WTS CCP" vs "WTB everything (mostly VR) but that wierd out-of-date MMO thing." |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8057
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Posted - 2016.12.10 09:42:55 -
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We have to consider also that the VR games may well be the future while MMOs are "old hat".
Look at the FPS genre for example. They offer customization of equipment and to some extent skills. These are Eve-ish qualities that are selling points for the game. I think Eve loses customers to the proliferation of character and skill customization, be they via P2W or other means, in other games that have much less grind to them.
In the greater picture, with the best of what MMOs have to offer without having to maintain the worst of MMOs while taking games into advanced VR technology, the MMORPG risks becoming a dinosaur. Possibly the changes to the client camera reflect some thought towards Eve not being entirely sent out to pasture. But it does risk becoming the old folks home for gamers still stuck in the 1995-2010 period.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1290
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Posted - 2016.12.10 09:46:57 -
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Beta Maoye wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Beta Maoye wrote:The news said the investors are thinking of selling the company CCP which includes Eve, Valkyrie, Gunjack and Project Nova. If someone wants to buy CCP, he is probably paying his attention on the intellectual property of VR, not the old game Eve. Not paying attention to the largest share of employees and infrastructure and more than half the income? That would be a pretty stupid investor. Venture capitals tend to look for businesses with possibilities of high growth rate, like VR, biotechnology, artificial intelligence. They are having less interest in matured business, like a 13 years old MMO, with limited growth. And where genius does the article show this as venture capital looking to purchase the business?
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Beta Maoye
143
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Posted - 2016.12.10 10:13:09 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Beta Maoye wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Beta Maoye wrote:The news said the investors are thinking of selling the company CCP which includes Eve, Valkyrie, Gunjack and Project Nova. If someone wants to buy CCP, he is probably paying his attention on the intellectual property of VR, not the old game Eve. Not paying attention to the largest share of employees and infrastructure and more than half the income? That would be a pretty stupid investor. Venture capitals tend to look for businesses with possibilities of high growth rate, like VR, biotechnology, artificial intelligence. They are having less interest in matured business, like a 13 years old MMO, with limited growth. And where genius does the article show this as venture capital looking to purchase the business? Many other choices for traditional capitals. Gaming is not particularly attractive to them. Capitals that invest in gaming are usually those who wants to take higher risk for very high return.
Surely Eve has its own value. It partly balanced the risk involved in VR gaming. It is a good reason that buyers may want to buy CCP as a whole. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
5377
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Posted - 2016.12.10 10:30:15 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:We have to consider also that the VR games may well be the future while MMOs are "old hat".
Look at the FPS genre for example. They offer customization of equipment and to some extent skills. These are Eve-ish qualities that are selling points for the game. I think Eve loses customers to the proliferation of character and skill customization, be they via P2W or other means, in other games that have much less grind to them.
In the greater picture, with the best of what MMOs have to offer without having to maintain the worst of MMOs while taking games into advanced VR technology, the MMORPG risks becoming a dinosaur. Possibly the changes to the client camera reflect some thought towards Eve not being entirely sent out to pasture. But it does risk becoming the old folks home for gamers still stuck in the 1995-2010 period.
VR at the moment is typically losing money and occasionally breaking even, usually because of things other than actually selling VR games (exclusivity deals, combo packages, et cetera). There simply aren't enough VR kits around to make a viable market, and to make it worst, it is split in mutually incompatible devices which require specific coding i.e. different versions of each game.
PC games are a better business and that feedbacks itself. Without VR content there's no drive to buy VR hardware which makes VR content a losing proposition for developers.
And what's worst, and the real crux, is that IMHO VR dried on the vine. It should have been launched in 2015, not 2016. That's the elephant in the room; Augmented Reality already haves a better foothold than VR and doesn't haves the serious backdraws of VR.
I said it some years ago and it's bound to be true: no consumer technology has ever succeeded that couldn't be shared within seconds. People buy new stuff to impress their acquitances. VR headsets just make you look like an idiot. Do they have a market? Yes. Is it a massive, smartphone-like market? No effin way. Is it a viably sized market? Maybe in 2015, but not in 2016 when AR (Augmented Reality) scored a critical hit on the smartphone market. The game giving boners to investors is Pokemon Go. Not some VR game: name one that isn't CCP's... or name a big hit VR game, I dare you.
So that leaves CCP in the position of having an old but profitable MMO earning some 60 million $ per year and a few VR trinkets and technologies which could be big if the VR market exploded, but that isn't happening this year and Xmas 2017 is as far as eternity. So either they sell now to some greater fool or that window of opportunity will shut by Q3 2017 as the First Year of Commercial VR 2.0 ends and is put on review. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3138
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Posted - 2016.12.10 11:13:06 -
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Agree to post above, better get rid of the VR assets while still valuable.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8057
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Posted - 2016.12.10 11:17:38 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:We have to consider also that the VR games may well be the future while MMOs are "old hat".
Look at the FPS genre for example. They offer customization of equipment and to some extent skills. These are Eve-ish qualities that are selling points for the game. I think Eve loses customers to the proliferation of character and skill customization, be they via P2W or other means, in other games that have much less grind to them.
In the greater picture, with the best of what MMOs have to offer without having to maintain the worst of MMOs while taking games into advanced VR technology, the MMORPG risks becoming a dinosaur. Possibly the changes to the client camera reflect some thought towards Eve not being entirely sent out to pasture. But it does risk becoming the old folks home for gamers still stuck in the 1995-2010 period. VR at the moment is typically losing money and occasionally breaking even, usually because of things other than actually selling VR games (exclusivity deals, combo packages, et cetera). There simply aren't enough VR kits around to make a viable market, and to make it worst, it is split in mutually incompatible devices which require specific coding i.e. different versions of each game. PC games are a better business and that feedbacks itself. Without VR content there's no drive to buy VR hardware which makes VR content a losing proposition for developers. And what's worst, and the real crux, is that IMHO VR dried on the vine. It should have been launched in 2015, not 2016. That's the elephant in the room; Augmented Reality already haves a better foothold than VR and doesn't haves the serious backdraws of VR. I said it some years ago and it's bound to be true: no consumer technology has ever succeeded that couldn't be shared within seconds. People buy new stuff to impress their acquitances. VR headsets just make you look like an idiot. Do they have a market? Yes. Is it a massive, smartphone-like market? No effin way. Is it a viably sized market? Maybe in 2015, but not in 2016 when AR (Augmented Reality) scored a critical hit on the smartphone market. The game giving boners to investors is Pokemon Go. Not some VR game: name one that isn't CCP's... or name a big hit VR game, I dare you. So that leaves CCP in the position of having an old but profitable MMO earning some 60 million $ per year and a few VR trinkets and technologies which could be big if the VR market exploded, but that isn't happening this year and Xmas 2017 is as far as eternity. So either they sell now to some greater fool or that window of opportunity will shut by Q3 2017 as the First Year of Commercial VR 2.0 ends and is put on review.
I happen to be working on an augmented reality project lately. You may be right.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Satyri Hermides
Detroit Metal Works
0
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Posted - 2016.12.10 14:41:52 -
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Looks like Microsoft is probably the interested party as Andy Lunique is headed to Iceland (home of CCP) and then off to Stockholm (Home of EA).
I believe EA already has 2 members on the CCP Games board, as well as does the Oculus developers.
Anyways, I will drop this here Beginning of the end |
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Ravas Geloris
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.12.10 15:11:33 -
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All things die sooner or later...there is no guarentee that eve will last forever.....
The server WILL go off some day that's for sure......
So why complain and not take a few good days left? :-)
Eve online down will not be the end of the world....maybe for some people,but as i said before...those people have quite a different and bigger problem..... |
Hrist Harkonnen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2016.12.10 15:38:38 -
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Jojcia wrote:NCSoft will buy - all item drop rates will be set automaticaly to 0,000000001% - bounties from rats will be 1000 ISK max - P2W cash shop - P2W events
Between EA and NCSoft i would rather have this game shut down. They are players Nemesis from RE3.
Try EVE Online for FREE with 250.000 extra skill points here!
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
377
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Posted - 2016.12.10 15:56:13 -
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mkint wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Keno Skir wrote:Wow that sucks :/ nobody cares, the owners (venture capitalists and investment funds) sell the whole company, ccp will still do the game.. it's like with stocks, the company goes on doing their thing no matter who owns the stock.. the company just gets traded from one investor to another.. happens all the time.. even if it's sold to electronic arts, ccp will go on doing the game like dice is doing their games, ccp will just end up having access to the ea assets, could lead to better server backup and such.. And it could lead to a whole lot of people who boycott EA leaving the game, because I'll be damned if they get a cent from me for anything ever again. EA don't make games, they make candy. It's got no nutrition to it whatsoever, it just tastes good and gives you enough energy to run around in circles for an hour before you pass out from sugar overload. sad kids leaving the game because of big bad EA grow up dude EA: where their only fans are through stockholm syndrome.
I will second that saying.
what ever EA takes over has died in a huge fiery explosion.
C&C RA 3 had high pay actors and crappy script, compared to Westwoods unknown actors with great capability and script, Tiberium wars 4 died aswell with its sucky ending
SimCity took a year and a half to be playable with its small maps and constant problems for them to make the game offline and haven't touched it since
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Kiaksar2142
Fratuzzi
4
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Posted - 2016.12.10 16:51:14 -
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i dont get the people who are saying that this game will die and its good time to take few days that we have left... Come on, there wasnt even an official comments. no one actually knows who is selling what and how...
News websites? COME ON... According to media, iraq had weapon of mass destruction, obama is a reptile agent, asteroids are approaching earth and we will die in few years....
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22138
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Posted - 2016.12.10 17:26:05 -
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Now I have an idea, it goes like this:
Microsoft buys CCP and makes them do VR software exclusively.
Microsoft buys CIG from Roberts to finish SC like with Freelancer.
Microsoft kills EVE Online before showing completed SC to sell more.
My tinfoil is stronk.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ Osprey
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Olleybear
Armed And Angry
225
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Posted - 2016.12.10 17:36:39 -
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Here is another link from pcgamesn about the possibility of Eveonline being sold.
Eve to be sold?
Change. Sometimes change can be good. All of the new content, game mechanic changes, ship/weapon balancing/changes, that have been implemented in this game are examples of change that is good.
Sometimes though, change can be bad. New bosses are a lot like alpha male dogs. They feel the need to pee on everything to make their mark and show they are dominant over all the betas. The changes they make arent to make anything better but to make sure everyone knows who is boss. This kind of change with this kind of boss is always a bad change and just ends up making everything smell like pee.
At 45, I've seen more of the bad kind of change happening in my workplace than the good kind of change I described above. I suspect many here have the same experience in their workplace.
Going to watch this possible change, see if Eveonline gets sold, look at what happens with the game after the possible change, and hope for the best, but expect the worst if Eve is sold.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.
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Dyner
Zervas Aeronautics The Bastion
138
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Posted - 2016.12.10 17:39:32 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:We have to consider also that the VR games may well be the future while MMOs are "old hat".
Look at the FPS genre for example. They offer customization of equipment and to some extent skills. These are Eve-ish qualities that are selling points for the game. I think Eve loses customers to the proliferation of character and skill customization, be they via P2W or other means, in other games that have much less grind to them.
The EVE Grind isn't the problem. EVE still has the "you need spreadsheets to play this" plague hanging over its head.
Dove-tailing that is the fact you're a ship. Be realistic, folks, our ships are our avatars...not the dude sitting on the couch in the station.
And for someone like myself, that is just not interesting. Flying a ship? Oh hell ya, PEWPEWPEW! But being the ship. It's jarring and takes me out of the world.
I believe those are two main reasons EVE never truly caught on.
"EVE's too hard"
and
"It's just not interesting" (which I think is the I'm a ship)
Sadly, the first has changed significantly since I started. -- You know...that lovely tutorial that was like. Here's a ship. HAVE FUN! *click*, and you were left there going "dafuq do I move??"
But the shadow of it still looms over the game. This may be why CCP expanded into the FPS and Space Ship FPS. Something to get people intrigued about how these 'other' games tied into EVE; in hopes of getting them to sub to it.
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@Kiaksar2142
It sounds to me like it was a leak. And if the MS trip to Iceland is right, it's either a Dev jumping to conclusion. Or there's been whispers of it [sell offs]. Unlike other industries the mere mention of a game studio being sold off can quickly death spiral any current projects.
No sane person would invest time into a game if they didn't know if the game would be the same (or even around) in the next year to year and half.
...and it doesn't look good when your company's biggest selling point (in terms of guaranteed revenue) suddenly has people fleeing/switching to F2P mode.
NOTE: For this next bit, I wasn't paying close attention.
I don't recall Blizzard announcing or even signaling they were switching owners (Vivendi to Activision) until pretty much after the ink was dried on the deal....in fact, I think I found out like a month afterwards that it had even happened, and that was because some were saying the glory days were "behind us now that Activision owns Blizzard".
((And the lack of coverage speaks to the above; you don't want to frightened your assets away [the players].))
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22138
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Posted - 2016.12.10 17:41:29 -
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I would take that "No comment" as "Its a secret! Well, it was.."
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ Osprey
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Olleybear
Armed And Angry
225
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Posted - 2016.12.10 17:53:24 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:I would take that "No comment" as "Its a secret! Well, it was.."
Agreeing with you here. The no comment on CCP's part is very telling. Especially from a company that is very vocal about how well the company is doing financially when asked if Eve is dieing by a game magazine.
When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.
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111kartel111
Lux Aeternes
16
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Posted - 2016.12.10 17:55:39 -
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Well crap i guess its back to playing x3 albion prelude then but hay its f2p :) . |
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