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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2016.12.12 10:12:34 -
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Hey, I dont understand how it is outdated, It aged well, extremely well for me, maybe because they redesigned much of the assets and spaceships that needed it. The art direction is consistent and is pleasurable to eye, despite some particular obvious no-no's forgotten in some places.
But when I see just a normal wiev outside station when I come from it, it looks good, the combat is looking great, camera options are customizable enough for me to keep screen not shaking and dont give me seizures. There is potential for a sci-fi freak to do what you want and how much you want, and dont even pay a $, because its free now. I really think its an enjoyable package.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ Osprey
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Lexia Hunter
Pirate Cartel
0
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Posted - 2016.12.12 10:51:42 -
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I want to see what CCP have to say. This is all speculation at the moment.
Come on CCP Say something. |
Don Pera Saissore
122
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Posted - 2016.12.12 11:03:31 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Nope, and please keep your feedback to the appropriate thread.
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Ben Johannson
Evil Young Flesh
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Posted - 2016.12.12 11:37:38 -
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Whole businesses aren't sold to raise money for improving the business you no longer own. They're sold so the existing investors can cash out and move on. This was inevitable when the owners consist of private equity and venture capital. |
Kiaksar2142
Fratuzzi
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Posted - 2016.12.12 11:49:26 -
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100% that Microsoft won't bother with EVE Online. they have failed so much times with mmo's. they will simply afraid to mess with it. so as i said before, if its Microsoft, they were there only for VR technology. CCP is not that stupid to sell its dollar generating machine =D |
Viktor Hadah
Negative-Impact DARKNESS.
5
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Posted - 2016.12.12 11:56:07 -
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I can't roll my eyes hard enough over all this speculation.
CCP has not been owned by CCP for a long time. It has always been for sale for the right price in theory. If someone like EA really wanted it that badly i assure you they would have acquired it. Everyone is thinking of this acquisition from a gamer stand point instead of a business stand point. I don't see it being very likely that it is acquired by another video game company.
EVE has been around for over 10 years and is a relatively stable game it would be extremely imprudent for the new owner to come in and try to change everything around. Chances are if(and a big if at that) if CCP changes hands f*ck all is going to happen to it surface level wise. Pretty much like when it was first acquired years ago.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
378
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Posted - 2016.12.12 12:40:55 -
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/mkint
Considering what has been happening around the world in recent times, not to mention some of the big events of this year, I really do not see how our world is entering age of 'achievement'. Either we are understanding the terms very differently, or looking at the different world, or we are looking at the same world but interpreting it in very different ways.
In any case, that's more got to do with social changes & world view, so perhaps not the most natural topic for GD, so I won't pick on that much here. :p
/Herzog,
aye, times are changing, both IRL and in the 'gaming world'. I do not want to keep going on about other specific companies here, but the Blizzard example is actually a very good one, a success story. 'Serious critiques' (whatever that may mean) may point fingers at how what they have done is not that original and there were other preceding games that introduced the new ideas, etc, but history (and numbers) will always remember them as having had massive commercial success with great mass appeal. That may not make their games 'better', but certainly they know how to make something with the right production quality and balance, that will sell like hot cakes.
What's also impressive with Blizz is that they have done it in different genres. They had Star Craft/War Craft (RTS), they had Diablo (Diabolo III not as massive hit as it could have been but I don't think they 'lost' any money on that), WoW, and now doing it with Overwatch (FPS).
All their games, old enough gamers will be able to point to other games that have 'done' it before Blizzard came along, and 'pioneered', but I don't think Blizzard cares about those fine points, they managed to grab the genre and turn them into blockbuster hits - quality? you could argue, but ticket sales? they are the kings.
EVE, I love it for what it is, despite its fault, and I do believe CCP does EVE better than anybody ever will, but that's because we are already EVE players and we have expectations of what this game should be. But EVE could change, under the ownership with someone else (if they do decide to interfere with the game's direction/visions), and yes, us existing players may hate it, but it can end up becoming a massive commercial success.
I can see a few ways it can work. Dumb it down to the level that will make bitter vets cry, make more casual/instantly accessible actions/PVPs, introduce avatar play with silly (but undeiably cute) emotes & clothings, drive the old boys (and girls) out and fill it with millions of teenagers and college students, make it something ridiculous, but fun, and addictive, with spoon fed PVE contents with plenty of gimmicks, set pieces and cinematics.
Yeah, that would make all the bitter vets cry, but I can see it work, and unlike some of the other EVE players I have always enjoyed the 'other side' of the gaming spectrum (for me, Star Craft, War Craft, WoW, and Overwatch, have all been AWESOME games). I would be sad we lose 'EVE' as we know it, but since I can and do enjoy games other than EVE, I probably continue to enjoy this 'new EVE' as a new game, and probably show boat around the new universe as a 'ghost from the previous generation' because every other serious EVE player of now has left, lol.
Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
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2Sonas1Cup
176
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Posted - 2016.12.12 12:45:09 -
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rip eve cash out before it's too late guys **** is going down |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22240
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Posted - 2016.12.12 13:03:05 -
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Doom is near! \o/ Buy those ship SKINs while you still can.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ Osprey
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mkint
1306
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Posted - 2016.12.12 13:54:42 -
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Toobo wrote:/mkint
Considering what has been happening around the world in recent times, not to mention some of the big events of this year, I really do not see how our world is entering age of 'achievement'. Either we are understanding the terms very differently, or looking at the different world, or we are looking at the same world but interpreting it in very different ways.
In any case, that's more got to do with social changes & world view, so perhaps not the most natural topic for GD, so I won't pick on that much here. :p
Like I said, we've got about 10 years for the current cultural cycle (which has been consistently repeating over hundreds of years, maybe longer) to go through its transition. Last time (in the 1940's-1950's) the transition was quick. At least according to people who study these things. Even if the cycle fails this time, CCP is in a position to turn EVE into an "establishment" the same way a lot of the WW2 business became establishments by being the sole providers of unique products, the way IBM still fills the same fundamental needs for businesses that it has for generations. That is, assuming CCP can even figure out what it is people are getting out of EVE (hint: EVE isn't the cheap disposable garbage of companies with limited longevity.)
Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22245
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Posted - 2016.12.12 14:04:08 -
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But I thought we were past the limit of planet conjunctions heralding doom.
Why every prophet wants to bring it back?
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ Osprey
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
543
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Posted - 2016.12.12 14:06:42 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:But I thought we were past the limit of planet conjunctions heralding doom.
Why every prophet wants to bring it back?
2016 isn't done with us yet...
Starting to think the Mayans were off by a couple of years.
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
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Kiaksar2142
Fratuzzi
10
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Posted - 2016.12.12 14:58:46 -
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Seriously, you guys dont know anything and already burying the game... this is all very bad =/ |
radkid10
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
46
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Posted - 2016.12.12 15:26:27 -
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instead of selling your company CCP start a crowdfunding thing and have people donate to your company to keep it going |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
128
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Posted - 2016.12.12 15:49:39 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Flamespar wrote:Honestly the fact that there are people willing to buy the company probably indicates that CCP is doing quite well. Why would anyone invest in a dying company? For their intellectual property. What intellectual property? CCP is EVE and thats it. VR is near!!! break even but nothing that is so exceptional that it is worth 1B. They have knowledge in MMO but nothing that made a big success like eve. So the real asset of CCP is EVE and thats the only thing that might justify such a high price. And the high price is something that is worrying me. If you pay 1B you are likely to expect something like 30-50M yearly and I don't see CCP able to make this amount of money without cutting back on development which will hurt Eve in the long run. The IP for a whole universe can be quite valuable. Just ask City of Heroes. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
128
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Posted - 2016.12.12 15:50:52 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:But I thought we were past the limit of planet conjunctions heralding doom.
Why every prophet wants to bring it back? 2016 isn't done with us yet... Starting to think the Mayans were off by a couple of years. --Gadget Yeah, I mean when predicting thousands of years in advance error is likely... Forgetting to divide by 0 orrrr well you know. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
578
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Posted - 2016.12.12 15:54:36 -
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First off, no need to panic. If the company is sold it won't have an immediate impact on Eve.
Second, Eve is profitable so it's not going away. Threats of players quitting would just make things worse for Eve.
Positive Outlook: CCP management is already milking Eve to fund other projects and cutting costs to attract buyers. New buyer infuses new enthusiasm, ideas, talent and cash into the game.
Pessimistic Outlook: CCP is purchased by a company that only wants the VR IP and doesn't care about Eve and just milks all the profit out of the game and drastically cuts development & support. New management is oppressive and existing staff quits.
But again, none of this is happening soon --> enjoy the game.
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
544
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Posted - 2016.12.12 15:55:16 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Geronimo McVain wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Flamespar wrote:Honestly the fact that there are people willing to buy the company probably indicates that CCP is doing quite well. Why would anyone invest in a dying company? For their intellectual property. What intellectual property? CCP is EVE and thats it. VR is near!!! break even but nothing that is so exceptional that it is worth 1B. They have knowledge in MMO but nothing that made a big success like eve. So the real asset of CCP is EVE and thats the only thing that might justify such a high price. And the high price is something that is worrying me. If you pay 1B you are likely to expect something like 30-50M yearly and I don't see CCP able to make this amount of money without cutting back on development which will hurt Eve in the long run. The IP for a whole universe can be quite valuable. Just ask City of Heroes.
Quafe in every convenience store.
EvE ships on luchboxes.
EvE toddler clothes ("Little Nullbear")
Eve diapers! (true sh!tfits...)
EvE CCG... (hell, I'd collect them if they looked cool).
EvE the flamethrower.
and so on.
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
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2Sonas1Cup
176
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Posted - 2016.12.12 16:13:20 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:First off, no need to panic. If the company is sold it won't have an immediate impact on Eve.
EVE is scheduled to be shut down in March if the deal goes through.
Not sure if 4 months isn't "immediate" impact. |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
544
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Posted - 2016.12.12 16:23:09 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:First off, no need to panic. If the company is sold it won't have an immediate impact on Eve.
EVE is scheduled to be shut down in March if the deal goes through. Not sure if 4 months isn't "immediate" impact.
Once again.... Citation Needed.
Speculation is all well and good - and even fun and/or therapeutic.
But that's not what you're doing. You're scare mongering. This is EvE, not pizzaagate.
We don't need random peeps showing up in Atlanta offices with rifles "asking questions".
Back up your direct facts, or stick with speculation.
--Concerned Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
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Othran
Route One
750
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Posted - 2016.12.12 17:00:07 -
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Given CCP's past investors I really don't think future investors are likely to be... more problematic? I think that's about the only way I can put this without getting my arse sued into oblivion
Eve (core game) is a cash cow - has been for years and is even more so now given (massively) reduced power/cooling requirements on the physical hardware. You could probably feature-freeze Eve now & it'd still be going in 5-10 years time.
The rest of CCPs endeavours have ranged from "good try" to "wtf were you thinking writing your own engine with zero experience?". Their VR stuff is nice but not unique or groundbreaking. Also the market for $1000/Gé¼1000 game rigs for VR isn't large - or even small for now.
tl;dr - if someone buys CCP & messes with the core game (the one which gets news coverage) then the very best of luck selling any of the rest of the Eve "franchise" in later games. |
Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
1547
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Posted - 2016.12.12 17:09:27 -
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They mentioned TenCent. Oh god plz no.
Also, does anyone actually believe CCP's worth has gone from 300M to 900M in the last 2 years?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Othran
Route One
750
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Posted - 2016.12.12 17:19:38 -
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Soldarius wrote:Also, does anyone actually believe CCP's worth has gone from 300M to 900M in the last 2 years?
Yes.
What percentage return are you getting on your investments/bank balance/etc & do you have a nice currency balance of Euro/dollar/pound to minimise risk on that?
I bet its a LOT less than the return from Eve - and you probably don't get to offset costs so much either
Their value rises because if you strip out stuff like Dust/Valkyrie/etc then you find an exceptionally profitable core product. Eve.
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Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
1547
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Posted - 2016.12.12 18:10:41 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Toobo wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The Devils Cousin wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Imagine the irony if Blizz snapped this up... If blizz took over this game would improve ten fold How? Kill 15 Guristas pirates and bring back their bandannas? (I feel like burning stuff now) Blizz may do silly things that traditional EVE players absolutely hate, but they do have incredible record of commercial success. EVE may change in a way that makes all bitter vets leave, but I would be very confident that it would be a game with a lot more players logged on doing silly little things like you've described. It will no longer be EVE as we know it, but it will be a very commercially successful game, and will attract many more players than we've ever seen in this game. I probably get flamed for saying it, but if I can kill 15 Guristas pirates and bring back their bandannas, and then earn some ISK and use that to buy new emotes for my avatar, I probably stick around. Your comments lend to my theory. Eve is not going to die. It's going to have as much lasting power as Firefly (unless they make Wil Wheaton the voice of Aura and the game does die with one big "Shut up, Wesley!"). Notice I don't say Star Wars or Star Trek. Eve is just not mainstream enough. Would it ever be in the future? You never know. Somebody might make a movie based on it or a series of novels might get written. Maybe there will be a perfect storm for this VR stuff and the Eve genre is in the right place at the right time. But yeah, it will certainly change. The MMO is becoming the anachronism, they all are. It's getting harder then ever to find anybody under 35 who plays them. I have a nephew in college and he qualifies to have his portrait as the definition for the word "gamer" in the dictionary. I asked him about MMORPG/MMO games a few weeks ago and he looked at me like I was making inside jokes based on Land of the Lost reruns. (Yeah I'm old) And again, since SP and ISK have become more "convertible" I don't think players who have much invested in the game thus far, noobs and bittervets alike, are going to be dumped in the evolution. Notice that having lots of SP is now meaningless. I used to boast about my 80 million SP now I would get told "80 mil dude you don't need that get some extractors". Having lots of SP meaningless means that having played the game for a long time is meaningless too. This is not a complaint, just stating the fact. It's no big deal in the end. A good time was had by all.
Dude, Land of the Lost was baller. Slee-stacks omg, and that stupid t-rex that was always chasing them around.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
129
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Posted - 2016.12.12 18:14:14 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:First off, no need to panic. If the company is sold it won't have an immediate impact on Eve.
EVE is scheduled to be shut down in March if the deal goes through. Not sure if 4 months isn't "immediate" impact. What? |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22269
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Posted - 2016.12.12 18:23:21 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:First off, no need to panic. If the company is sold it won't have an immediate impact on Eve.
EVE is scheduled to be shut down in March if the deal goes through. Not sure if 4 months isn't "immediate" impact. What? 2Sonas1Cup being an awful troll.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ Osprey
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Dyllan Ybrex
Sanguis Inceptum
12
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:05:53 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:First off, no need to panic. If the company is sold it won't have an immediate impact on Eve.
EVE is scheduled to be shut down in March if the deal goes through. Not sure if 4 months isn't "immediate" impact.
Fear mongering to drive PLEX prices down? I like the cut of your jib!
> "I find it hard to believe that the notoriously incompetent DED investigators managed to solve this 'mystery' in such a short time" ~ Omir Sarikusa
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Kiaksar2142
Fratuzzi
12
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:49:13 -
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Ahh relax! look from the brighter side! even if it gets shut down, we will have a chance to create our personal lives! look at me! I'm 25 years old. I dont have a girlfriend. Its cause my girlfriend is EVE xD btw, Eve is nice name) i will name my daughter Eve (Evelyn) as you can see, i'm already getting insane xD |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
554
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:55:22 -
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If EvE shuts down, I might run for office.
Think a platform based on HTFU will fly?
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
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Daniel Jackson
Shore Leave Inc. Holdings
192
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Posted - 2016.12.12 21:35:08 -
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i wish we can get some clarification on this
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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