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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
67
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Posted - 2011.12.25 09:50:00 -
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Nerf it please I want to fight people can its kinda hard if you get blobbed by 12 titans everytime.... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Halcyon Ingenium
Warm Holes
70
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Posted - 2011.12.25 09:54:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Nerf it please I want to fight people can its kinda hard if you get blobbed by 12 titans everytime.... No one cares about your dumb titan. That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire, the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man, replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
xanthrax
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.25 10:59:00 -
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thats **** fit PL titans with tracking enhancements.
you have to had 50 dreds to fight one - that sux. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
1
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Posted - 2011.12.25 15:18:00 -
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When the boot is on the other foot you moan like no tomorrow, yet when you guys do it you go on about how leet you are in local. Pathetic... |
Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
109
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Posted - 2011.12.25 18:48:00 -
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I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.) "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
67
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Posted - 2011.12.25 19:21:00 -
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Dirk Magnum wrote:I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.)
im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped. Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang. Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head. Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors. Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble. Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins
Im not mad, i just want to kill people but getting titans on your head everytime is getting anoying CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
200
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Posted - 2011.12.25 20:11:00 -
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Terribly sorry, CCP already gave supers their allotted 15 minutes of Dev-time this cycle .. please standby, next pass will be in 18 months
Supers would be borderline broken-as-hell even if they lived up to CCP initial expectations (only a handful in existence), now that they number in the thousands ... hahahahahahahaha.
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Ryuce
5
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:49:00 -
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It's kind of interesting to see an alliance deploy (and lose) titans and then complain about hostiles blobbing with titans. Especially when said alliance is know for blobbing themselves, see -A-'s use of Drake blobs etc.
Maybe you should consider joining another entity if you dislike these titan blobs?
Furthermore, what do you thinking that these massive super weapons with complex weapon systems should be able to do? |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
265
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:13:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped. Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang. Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head. Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors. Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble. Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins
Hemmo, agree with the sentiment. But it would help a lot if FCs understood the concept of transversal. Get right on top of those titans and orbit them, instead of aligning straight away from them What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
I likegirls
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:16:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Dirk Magnum wrote:I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.) im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped. Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang. Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head. Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors. Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble. Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins Im not mad, i just want to kill people but getting titans on your head everytime is getting anoying
No, you are mad. |
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
67
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Posted - 2011.12.26 22:01:00 -
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Ryuce wrote:It's kind of interesting to see an alliance deploy (and lose) titans and then complain about hostiles blobbing with titans. Especially when said alliance is know for blobbing themselves, see -A-'s use of Drake blobs etc.
Maybe you should consider joining another entity if you dislike these titan blobs? h Furthermore, what do you thinking that these massive super weapons with complex weapon systems should be able to do? you fail, i made this topic before that, so nice try but you fail. blobbing is something everyone does as numbets are never equal. nice try to derail this topic but that not the point. me being in - A- has nothing to do with this, yet sgain nice try you have to be pl alt. i dont care what titan should do, i do know they aint should be this powerfull versus subcapitals.
to jack; i like you but tracking titans can still track pods and frigats. in any ship you have only drop transvercel once to get insta poppod. for even the best pilots it is impossible to have a high transvercel at all time. it is a matter of putting every gun on each frig and just wait.
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
67
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Posted - 2011.12.26 22:43:00 -
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btw can the devs pls stop moving this around; from General Discussion to Ship & Modules to Warefare & Tactics
move back to ships pls as its about a ship... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
In your local
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 14:09:00 -
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Because triple ghey have no supers? Stop being a pansy and tell makalu to grow a pair and drop your own ffs.
P.S. Keep posting these threads bro, maybe if you post hard enough CCP will give you a secret weapon that kills titans in 1 shot just for you. It would have a funnel to catch your tears which power it. |
Julia Connor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:35:00 -
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At best, you can get the tracking of a 1400mm mael or slightly better on an erebus so I don't see the problem here. You'll deffo get hit if you don't move which I'm pretty sure is what happened with the cases you pointed out.
P.S. We all want to have fun but it doesn't make sense to whine about not winning when you aren't even trying. If a certain side can field 50 supers, certain people will expect something fruitful to come out of an engagement while putting in much less effort. The same said people will even go to extents such as asking for nerfs so they can be competitive. It just doesn't work. |
Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2011.12.30 05:55:00 -
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huh huh?
Maybe it comes down to the way bonus is applied? It's all percent based! Think along Reactor Control Unit versus Auxiliary Power Core on frigates. Take a top of the line officer tracking computer on a Titan vs the same damn thing on a whatever else. Maybe the boost of a Cormack TC on an Erebus is disproportionally large compared to the boost of the same module on a BS?
Because of percentage?
...just saying... |
Trinkets friend
Obstergo NEM3SIS.
42
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Posted - 2011.12.31 07:01:00 -
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50 guys paid 54B ISK each, and this made their investment worthwhile. This thread is worth a quarter of a trillion ISK, I am sure. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu
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Twisted Girl
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2011.12.31 11:28:00 -
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Basicly those titans are full blaap fit(3 damage mods, 2 TE+2 tracking computers+ 2-3 sebos), even if there was just a slight remotly chance for a counterdrop they would have to fit tank fit(with max 2 tracking computers each with tank fit low and singel sensorbooster) and not been able to hit stuff like they was doing. that and half of your dudes have no clue what they are doing(lets warp in 10 tier 3 battlecruisers at 100km to snipe on titan fleet anyone??) The only tank they got is like 1 damage control.
Enemy ships are also painted/webbed up by the supercarrier support.
Tho your too scared to counterdrop with commitment for even 1 fully cap fit bridge ragnarok that was caught with its pants down so VOV(dropping 40 drakes dont count as commitment), then we might aswell fit for max gank and go turkey shooting some -a-. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
1
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Posted - 2011.12.31 13:43:00 -
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I might as well explain the context of my earlier post.
-A- set up two large POS's in 46DP stacked full with hardeners, they also timed it for the US TZ. They based in each POS a tracking Titan, they would then send sub-caps out and camp or bubble the station, if we attacked them they would bring in the Titans. We had one of them use their DD on a Rapier which was killing two of their dramiels. Following on from the DD nerf and the aggro change they jumped out their Titans, helped by PL being around.
The Titan pilots smacked continuously at how leet they were and how useless RA pets were, they did this when the RA supers were not around, so if the Titans were caught they would log off if caught and would in all likelyhood after 15 minutes survive what DPS was around. The change to aggro made this too great a risk for them.
So when you get a whine like this when someone else does this to them even after the nerf, one has to treat it with the contempt with what it deserves.
Our lot never moaned about the game mechanics when this was done to us, we just picked off the sup-caps and waited for the Titan nerf and the aggro change, if -A- had dared to risk their titans after the nerf doing this then we would have killed them, PL is of course doing it properly and are doing it after the nerf, I for one know who are elte PvP'rs and who are not.
The whine by the OP is why so many people have a certain lack of respect for -A- |
Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
55
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Posted - 2011.12.31 14:06:00 -
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I personally think titans should be allowed to doomsday subcaps again. Those who disagree are poor peasants who are weak and jealous and should get richer. If I invested more time and money into something I should automatically win. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
1
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Posted - 2011.12.31 14:50:00 -
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Parsee789 wrote:I personally think titans should be allowed to doomsday subcaps again. Those who disagree are poor peasants who are weak and jealous and should get richer. If I invested more time and money into something I should automatically win.
I have no issue with Titans being able to doomsday sup caps, and I am a poor peasent who cannot afford to buy a Titan, not that I want one of course.
What I do welcome is the change in aggro, now we can kill them... |
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YUMAD BRO
Aliastra Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.12.31 19:40:00 -
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OP is a whiny little Btch...the end.
go back to WoW ya tard lololololol |
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
54
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Posted - 2012.01.01 00:34:00 -
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Against all Aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha CAUTION
SNIGGS |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
343
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Posted - 2012.01.01 00:36:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Nerf it please I want to fight people can its kinda hard if you get blobbed by 12 titans everytime....
First of all, the first people to abuse tracking titans on an undock in the southern war was in fact AAA.
2nd, the thing that says you want to fight is also a lie, since you did in fact run from a TEST sub cap gang that you outnumbered.
What you mean to say is that you are too bad to manage your own transv, you have bought the lies your alliance leadership told you, and now you're going to make whine threads to compensate for how incredibly bad your alliance is.
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Alfa Zeta
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.01 00:38:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Dirk Magnum wrote:I'm seriously confused about what this thread is about. I'm not just saying that (like I usually do.) im saying that there is something wrong with titans tracking when cepters and pod get insta popped. Im saying that there is something wrong when you get stalked by invinceble blob of titans that anailate every gang. Im sayin that there is something wrong if you can not fight people without, them dropping tracking titans on your head. Im saying there is something wrong if you can not kill or tackle supers because they track your dictors. Im saying there is something worng if you can not kill 5 tracking titans without support with a conventional fleet Im saying tracking titans are overpowerd and with logi spider carrier support togheter are invinceble. Im saying that who ever has the most supers still wins Im not mad, i just want to kill people but getting titans on your head everytime is getting anoying
you stupid ****. We killed your titans the other day cause your ******** titan pilots decided to shoot machs instead of hics.
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India99
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2012.01.01 00:52:00 -
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xanthrax wrote:thats **** fit PL titans with tracking enhancements.
you have to had 50 dreds to fight one - that sux.
losing 50 dreads is still much cheaper than losing 1 Titan, and would even do about 60 times more damage.
A avg. Titan wich costs about 60-70 times more than a Dread shouldnt have any advantage at all, PLZ HALP CCP |
Alfa Zeta
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.01 01:09:00 -
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hey hemmosxual , I see you bid on all those t2 bpo's and officer mods. How bout spread the love and help your team get some titans? |
MrGeckoli
Crash and Burn Academy
0
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Posted - 2012.01.01 19:54:00 -
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AAA is complaining about tracking titans when their own titans were recently fighting subcaps that way. |
Trololol Master
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:39:00 -
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Parsee789 wrote:I personally think titans should be allowed to doomsday subcaps again. Those who disagree are poor peasants who are weak and jealous and should get richer. If I invested more time and money into something I should automatically win.
this is trolling at its best. no, investing moar shouldn't mean you automatically win. not only does that not happen in real life it shouldn't happen in any stupid video game. i will disagree with OP, nerf was fine, if you can't fight the tracked up titans move your butt out of scary space. |
Mr Bigwinky
Click Click BOOM 4U Holdings Inc
87
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Posted - 2012.01.05 14:09:00 -
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Dear null-sec whiners,
Hahahah.
Sincerely, Wormhole Space. Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself GÖÑ |
Brotha Umad
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2012.01.05 17:53:00 -
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YUMAD BRO wrote:OP is a whiny little Btch...the end.
go back to WoW ya tard lololololol
I deny any family connection with this person, regardless of names. |
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Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:14:00 -
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So then what.... is all of null just at the mercy of these titan drops? I fought pl last night in a hurricane and a falcon (anything less is guarnteed failure) Jammed their falcon and ended up killing their faction fit dram while losing my cane. The whole time I was expecting them to drop titans on my face. They did not, but they did send a mach to end my killing (for the night) early.
So l33t pvp is decided by who can and will field billion(s) isk ships? No, that is not leet PVP. Its just PVP.
leet pvp is going to amamake in a rifter and killing everybody. (never done it but it sounds FUN)
As far as titan tracking goes, yeah they should not be able to hit frigs and intys.
P.S: I thought titans were supposed to be alliance support ships not front line PVP gank machines |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
275
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:16:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote: As far as titan tracking goes, yeah they should not be able to hit frigs and intys.
P.S: I thought titans were supposed to be alliance support ships not front line PVP gank machines
finaly someone that got my message CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Aestivalis Saidrian
SplitPush Mercantiles
13
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:36:00 -
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Well, to be fair, that was the idea behind the Titans at first. Until some people set up some ridiculously good vertical logistics chains and just manufactures them. So now they're front line combat ships. |
Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
76
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:50:00 -
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limit one titan per alliance. (OMFG I AM FITTING 4X THERMAL DISSAPATION FIELD II ON MY UNDERPANTS!!!) |
Ryuce
19
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Posted - 2012.01.06 08:29:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:limit one titan per alliance. (OMFG I AM FITTING 4X THERMAL DISSAPATION FIELD II ON MY UNDERPANTS!!!) Boiling large scale PVP down to who can bring the largst blob into the contested system first? This will surely improve the game immensely.
Ps. I don't hope that you were serious about you expecting to get hot dropped in that setup.
E: what do you suggest to do with the surplus titans? Many (if not all) of these are personal or corp investments. |
Samanta Raiolaser
Republic University Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:37:00 -
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Supercap brawl fit cant track subcaps, other than a very lucky shot now and then. But to force your enemy to fit tank you need to use your own supers and titans. Then you will have a supercap/subcap fleet against a supercap/no-tracking fit fleet with no tackle, no support...
If you use your time to fight instead of shitpost you might get some supercap blood in your hands. It's way better than whine, cuz tears>lyfe, and they go straight to supercap's fuel bay.
<3
btwbtwbtwbtwbtwbtw if I'm not mistaken, the ONLY ubbertracking titan caught with pants down like EVER, was an.... wait for it.....: -A- titan. You should ask him, how fast he went down.... Then you might want to try be proactive yourself. |
Aestivalis Saidrian
SplitPush Mercantiles
17
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Posted - 2012.01.06 15:22:00 -
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The hell are you smoking. Supercap Brawlfit Erebus can get the same tracking as 14s with TEs. [:?|] |
supr3m3justic3
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
1
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Posted - 2012.01.06 17:02:00 -
[38] - Quote
If i shoot a beam at your ship, and the beam is bigger than your ship......you do the math. |
Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.01.07 15:25:00 -
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supr3m3justic3 wrote:If i shoot a beam at your ship, and the beam is bigger than your ship......you do the math.
OT1H, You could argue that a beam bigger than your ship would kill the ship. OTOH, you could argue that signature radius should affect damage done to a ship even without transversal, similar to missiles. The natural spread of a bigger gun is wider than the spread of a smaller gun. This is opening another can of worms however. |
Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
3
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:32:00 -
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i dont care about useless pirate nation or alcoholics anonymous or landemic pigeon whatever bullshit
however titan tracking is overpowered and deserves so called balancing
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Stygian Knight
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.01.08 23:21:00 -
[41] - Quote
Lots of mad people here |
Trololol Master
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.01.09 00:09:00 -
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Stygian Knight wrote:Lots of mad people here
where where where? oh i see them. crap thats a lot.
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IonHammer
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2012.01.09 03:55:00 -
[43] - Quote
This all seems like a bad case of Titan Envy. |
Valoche Mrehl
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
8
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Posted - 2012.01.09 16:16:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote: leet pvp is going to amamake in a rifter and killing everybody.
I've distilled this thread down to it's most pertinent fact.
It is Possible to be Leet |
olan2005
Outcast Heroes AAA Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:28:00 -
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Put simply a titain purpose was capital killing as such subcaps should be able to avoid its fire while in motion even battleships going 60m/s should be able to avoid right now depsite the super nerfr a large titain blob turns a subcap fleet into canon fodder |
OninoTimmo
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
29
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Posted - 2012.01.09 22:56:00 -
[46] - Quote
olan2005 wrote:Put simply a titain purpose was capital killing as such subcaps should be able to avoid its fire while in motion even battleships going 60m/s should be able to avoid right now depsite the super nerfr a large titain blob turns a subcap fleet into canon fodder
thanks for the input, AAA renter guy |
Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.12 15:37:00 -
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I see alot of pl alts in here claiming its not overpowerd. If i look at the link that the OP posted i see alot of frigats.... Im sure all those frigats where stationary and not moving faster than 60 m/s.......
Titans can even kill afterburning light dictors.....
It is impossible to catch a tracking titan blob without a army of dictors.
I cant wait untill the east is purified, im sure this will cause a nice player drop again |
Pinto Aldent
Random Precision. Broken Toys
3
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Posted - 2012.01.17 12:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
pretty sure if OP had his wish then his alliance would have lost a Nyxx last nite to a subcap fleet in a cyno jammed incursion system that was only saved by the tracking titan still in there ;) Such hypocrites AAA |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
85
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Posted - 2012.01.17 13:50:00 -
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Pinto Aldent wrote:pretty sure if OP had his wish then his alliance would have lost a Nyxx last nite to a subcap fleet in a cyno jammed incursion system that was only saved by the tracking titan still in there. Such hypocrites those AAA
That is quite a leap of logic.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
38
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Posted - 2012.01.17 23:19:00 -
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Cool..
Yet another thread of someone whining about their easy mode being out-classed by the latest easy mode being imployed more strategicly. And instead of developing a way to counter and deal with it on his/their own with a **** ton of tools, ways, and ideas to do so already existing ingame.. going to cry and cry and cry and make mommabear CCP fix it for them.
So much for actually applying effort and strategic thought. Why work for something when whimpers can have it handed to you.. or just submit and pay to make the bleeding stop.....
Getting supercaps nerfed into the ground.. nerfs your own supers into the ground.
That is the punchline.. CCP can not fix player fail. The ones that excel at adapting and developing new methods, or revamping current ones to fit their particular nature and abilities PROPERLY.. and then imploy them correctly, consistently.. are the ones that are going to succeed over and over and over. Fail breeds fail.. Lemmings to fotm ideas are typical dumb fucks that can't adapt their strategy to an ever evolving landscape. Not until it punches them in the face. Man up.. or be a lil whiny ***** when you get punched in the face.
OP decided to be a whiny lil *****. |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
85
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Posted - 2012.01.18 20:39:00 -
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Umega wrote:Cool..
Yet another thread of someone whining about their easy mode being out-classed by the latest easy mode being imployed more strategicly. And instead of developing a way to counter and deal with it on his/their own with a **** ton of tools, ways, and ideas to do so already existing ingame.. going to cry and cry and cry and make mommabear CCP fix it for them.
So much for actually applying effort and strategic thought. Why work for something when whimpers can have it handed to you.. or just submit and pay to make the bleeding stop.....
Getting supercaps nerfed into the ground.. nerfs your own supers into the ground.
That is the punchline.. CCP can not fix player fail. The ones that excel at adapting and developing new methods, or revamping current ones to fit their particular nature and abilities PROPERLY.. and then imploy them correctly, consistently.. are the ones that are going to succeed over and over and over. Fail breeds fail.. Lemmings to fotm ideas are typical dumb fucks that can't adapt their strategy to an ever evolving landscape. Not until it punches them in the face. Man up.. or be a lil whiny ***** when you get punched in the face.
OP decided to be a whiny lil *****.
I think U mad. |
Umega
Solis Mensa
43
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Posted - 2012.01.19 23:24:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Umega wrote:Cool..
Yet another thread of someone whining about their easy mode being out-classed by the latest easy mode being imployed more strategicly. And instead of developing a way to counter and deal with it on his/their own with a **** ton of tools, ways, and ideas to do so already existing ingame.. going to cry and cry and cry and make mommabear CCP fix it for them.
So much for actually applying effort and strategic thought. Why work for something when whimpers can have it handed to you.. or just submit and pay to make the bleeding stop.....
Getting supercaps nerfed into the ground.. nerfs your own supers into the ground.
That is the punchline.. CCP can not fix player fail. The ones that excel at adapting and developing new methods, or revamping current ones to fit their particular nature and abilities PROPERLY.. and then imploy them correctly, consistently.. are the ones that are going to succeed over and over and over. Fail breeds fail.. Lemmings to fotm ideas are typical dumb fucks that can't adapt their strategy to an ever evolving landscape. Not until it punches them in the face. Man up.. or be a lil whiny ***** when you get punched in the face.
OP decided to be a whiny lil *****. I think U mad.
Please, enlighten me on how I am 'mad'. I'm not the one failing. Are you mad?
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Pink Marshmellow
Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2012.01.20 02:36:00 -
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As a Dread Pilot, I call these whines and complaints about Titan Tracking to be complete Bullshit.
A dread that is out of siege mode will have the same tracking as a titan.
My revelation outside of siege mode (therefore no tracking penalty) with 3 tracking comps with tracking scripts, a standard drop booster, and 2 tracking enhancers will COMPLETELY MISS a cruiser orbiting at 180 m/s at 35 km.
My character has max gunnery skills and my revelation is not moving of course so i have optimal tracking.
In order for my dread to hit the cruiser it has to be double webbed down to 30-40 m/s and be lit with one target painter in order to hit it.
So a titan would have great difficulty hitting a moving cruisers or frigate within 40km or less. The only way for your cruiser to get hit was for you to be orbiting at that distance with an mwd on, which it will still have a hard time hitting or you are a moron and flew straight at the titan or away.
Now if you get webbed and painted, well that is the purpose of webs and painters, don't like it that's simply your fault.
People who say they lost an AB frig/cruiser to a titan, what were you doing, how were you flying, and what was on the field for you to get popped? If there's a ship on the field like rapier or loki, well you gotta kill/jam/neut that rather than shooting the titan.
Titans themselves cannot destroy subcaps that easily, as long as you have a basic idea of how to fly, rather than be braindead and sit still.
I mean I could use the same argument against Battleships, OH NOES a 1400mm maelstrom insta popped my frigate/ cruiser NERF MAELSTROMS and 1400mm.
If you were standing still and let your self get locked and killed by a titan then you fail at eve. |
Kingwood
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.01.20 03:29:00 -
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I remember writing about the Titan problem back in 2007/2008. At that time people were telling me I was being dumb. I really ought to dig that thread back up and quote some of the responses because some of the names here seem familiar.
AAA complaining about Titans equals irony overload. |
Ryuce
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Posted - 2012.01.20 07:58:00 -
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Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:I see alot of pl alts in here claiming its not overpowerd. If i look at the link that the OP posted i see alot of frigats.... Im sure all those frigats where stationary and not moving faster than 60 m/s.......
Titans can even kill afterburning light dictors.....
It is impossible to catch a tracking titan blob without a army of dictors.
I cant wait untill the east is purified, im sure this will cause a nice player drop again I see alot of -A- alts in here claiming its overpowerd.
Also, I just can't help myself; -A- is ****! |
Michael Banki
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.21 00:21:00 -
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I have a suggestion, halve the tracking on capital guns and remove the tracking penalty from siege.
Dreads wont be hurt, and titans will have less chance of hitting a battleship, even maybe less ratting in titans. |
Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:48:00 -
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Michael Banki wrote:I have a suggestion, halve the tracking on capital guns and remove the tracking penalty from siege.
Dreads wont be hurt, and titans will have less chance of hitting a battleship, even maybe less ratting in titans.
Why shouldn't a Titan have the ability to sacrifice much tank to hit a BS?
DD-aoe was removed.. that was certainly reasonable and needed. But then the new DD got nerfed again when Moms got their hp buff shortly after.
Are people expecting these things to get nerfed into nothing more than bridge duty?
No I do not have a Titan pilot.. I prefer sub-caps and have no desire to buy/train a supercap pilot. But I don't believe I am entitled to more than those pilots because of my choice. The common excuse seems to be.. 'there is too many'. Yeah.. cause it is worth having some around and in use. They are and should be a stable of all powerful alliances. They are Power.. and they damn well should be and remain that way.
Instead of nerfing them directly.. nerf them indirectly. Minerals being hit, drone regions dropping something else, massive bot ban, spike in costs make each s-cap hurt more when lost and leave some questioning whether or not to use theirs in certain arenas n scenarios.
Cyno changes.
Changes to dreads.. rework dreads instead of nerfing Titans.. and moms further into the ground.
I don't agree about removing their ewar immunity.. having some T1 cruiser completely disable some s-cap is such a terrible idea, and a pussyfoot panzy ass way of crying for an easy mode. Why not some kind of 'spider' ewar systems on some reworked dreads or carriers that can be able to put some debuffs onto Titans instead.
Point being.. fix other areas.. and you'll find out you don't need to the nerf the stables of power directly. Let them hold their stigma.. but become dampen'd by the effort of others.
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