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xxC Bxx
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Posted - 2007.04.09 13:58:00 -
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I was wondering why we can bring them into .5 and above. What is the reason? I really would like one to run mission in. I miss the days that I could fly 12 heavy drones. Then I left and came back to the game to find out that I can only fly 5 and supposedly they hit harder. Back on topic, why cant we. Someone bring one in and tank Concord and start popping them as well?
CB
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.09 14:14:00 -
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i think the RP reason is that they are Capital ships and as such represent the soverign power of the alliance to which they belong, since highsec belongs to the Empire factions, ie Caldari, Gallente etc they have no right to enter an empire's soverign space.... or something.
Real reason is probaley because in lowsec or 0.0 anyone who can find them can kill them, where as if a empire corp with several capships wardeced a smaller less powerfull corp and then sat station camping that corp in a highsec system, they would be practicley unkillable and way overpowered vs. a corp that does not have a large capship or BS fleet. -
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Valrandir
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.09 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: xxC Bxx I was wondering why we can bring them into .5 and above. What is the reason? I really would like one to run mission in. I miss the days that I could fly 12 heavy drones. Then I left and came back to the game to find out that I can only fly 5 and supposedly they hit harder. Back on topic, why cant we. Someone bring one in and tank Concord and start popping them as well?
CB
We cannot use capital ships in NPC missions anymore. If you want to use one, move to low sec or 0.0 first :)
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Alora Venoda
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Posted - 2007.04.09 15:51:00 -
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so... what happens if you try to jump a carrier into hi-sec? i have seen cyno fields in hi-sec before, so what mechanic prevents it? does CONCORD attack you as soon as you jump one in?
also, i see nowhere in the in-game descriptions that you cannot bring a carrier into hi-sec...
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.09 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 09/04/2007 15:58:03
Originally by: Alora Venoda so... what happens if you try to jump a carrier into hi-sec? i have seen cyno fields in hi-sec before, so what mechanic prevents it? does CONCORD attack you as soon as you jump one in?
also, i see nowhere in the in-game descriptions that you cannot bring a carrier into hi-sec...
Absoultly nothing. Cyno's cannot exist in empire, and if you somehow made one, concord does nothing.
There are dreads and carrier in hig sec atm. Dreads used to be buildable in high sec, and I heard some guy got a carrier reimbursed into his highsec hanger for some reason - Dunno if its true or not though.
Chribba is a person who has a dread in highsec. Privateers downed a highsec dread as well. --
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC
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Posted - 2007.04.09 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Kaaii on 09/04/2007 16:18:01
Originally by: Alora Venoda so... what happens if you try to jump a carrier into hi-sec? i have seen cyno fields in hi-sec before, so what mechanic prevents it? does CONCORD attack you as soon as you jump one in?
also, i see nowhere in the in-game descriptions that you cannot bring a carrier into hi-sec...
Its implied logic..
And i think you are mistaken about cyno fields in empire, unless you are talking about <05.
You cannot "build one" in empire,(re: hi-sec > 04) so there for they cannot exist in empire. There are many reasons why, some noted above. There are also "a few" folks that have them in empire, because of a game change in mechanics a while back, and were allowed to remain. these are the ones you are hearing about, Chribbas Veldnaught, the phoenix(?) privateers downed last month.
For the most part when they are gone, there will be no more...
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warpod
Amarr Pact Of Honour United Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.09 17:00:00 -
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I'd like to see a battle of 10 Motherships vs CONCORD
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.09 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: warpod I'd like to see a battle of 10 Motherships vs CONCORD
And quite the slideshow it would be.
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Fornacis
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.09 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
Originally by: warpod I'd like to see a battle of 10 Motherships vs CONCORD
And quite the slideshow it would be.
LOL...which is probably another reason why capitals aren't allowed in Highsec...because someone would try this, or .. fire off a DD in front of Jita 4 Caldari station for laughs...etc. :)
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.09 18:51:00 -
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Privateers took down a Phoenix in hi-sec? Reimbursment dread or the Sobaseki Phoenix? Did I miss something here?
And back on topic, there are still ways to build capitals in hi-sec (up to 0.7) if you still have a large assembly array anchored at a POS. But there are no more capitals in 0.8 and above, any new ones popping up there are ships getting reimbursed - and those get moved to low-sec fairly fast afaik.
I know there was a Thanatos suddenly popping up in Urlen (1.0) a while back took about an hour or so before GMs moved it to low-sec again. So to my knowledge there is only two capitals remaining in 0.8 and above - mine and the one in Sobaseki (unless that is the one Privateers shot down?).
Trying to cyno in 0.5+ gives you an error message.
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC
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Posted - 2007.04.09 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
And back on topic, there are still ways to build capitals in hi-sec (up to 0.7) if you still have a large assembly array anchored at a POS.
/c
I wonder what that would be worth...?
And yes i think i saw a post a few weeks ago about PA-teers taking down a dread somewhere in forge, so maybe it was that one, i dunno.
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xxC Bxx
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: xxC Bxx I was wondering why we can bring them into .5 and above. What is the reason? I really would like one to run mission in. I miss the days that I could fly 12 heavy drones. Then I left and came back to the game to find out that I can only fly 5 and supposedly they hit harder. Back on topic, why cant we. Someone bring one in and tank Concord and start popping them as well?
CB
We cannot use capital ships in NPC missions anymore. If you want to use one, move to low sec or 0.0 first :)
Was there a reason that they dont want use to use them for Mission. I was wanting to use them on the lvl 4s. So yea i am a somewhat carebear and want a ship that i can fly more than 5 damn drones on. Feeling really cut after coming back to find that i lost alot of drone points.
CB
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 09/04/2007 21:40:34 nm..
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Tawrich Tistrya
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Posted - 2007.08.15 05:44:00 -
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Just a thought ( been looking into carriers a bit ) Wouldn't it be possible to get one packaged inside a freighter (with full skills to get max cargo hold ) and then fly it to high sec?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.15 05:49:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 15/08/2007 05:50:12 I don't quite know the answer to your question, but I don't think they'll fit in freighters (I haven't looked at the numbers, or know much about capital ships). But, I don't think this was necessary to Necro this thread.
Also, I think Ships and Modules is the best forum for this.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.15 06:00:00 -
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Billions of Concord ships and drones would warp in to deal with the aggressive high-sec capitals... making Jita look like speedy Gonzalez on a sugar-rush. ---
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.15 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus Billions of Concord ships and drones would warp in to deal with the aggressive high-sec capitals... making Jita look like speedy Gonzalez on a sugar-rush.
Imagine a CONCORD cap ship....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.15 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tawrich Tistrya Just a thought ( been looking into carriers a bit ) Wouldn't it be possible to get one packaged inside a freighter (with full skills to get max cargo hold ) and then fly it to high sec?
Nope, they're too big packed, even for a maxed Charon pilot.
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JamesTalon
Caldari Electric Fury Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.15 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Tawrich Tistrya Just a thought ( been looking into carriers a bit ) Wouldn't it be possible to get one packaged inside a freighter (with full skills to get max cargo hold ) and then fly it to high sec?
Nope, they're too big packed, even for a maxed Charon pilot.
Curse you Chirbba, beat me to it. But as he said, the Charon isn't even big enough. They made it that way on purpose, even though the numbers say it should be large enough "Return with your shield, or on it." |
Tawrich Tistrya
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Posted - 2007.08.15 14:05:00 -
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kinda sucks. Didnt run exact numbers on it , but thought might just fit. Shame it doesn't , i was planning on training for one then flying it to my hangar in 0.5 and use it for lvl 4 missions , guess i'll just try and max as much skills as i can for my domi before going for one.
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