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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2016.12.22 07:32:27 -
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Gizzie Haslack wrote:They're almost as fast as Interceptors, have the tank of dessies, and the guns of a scanner frigate.
What's the point when you can just rig up a dessie and pay 1/25th the price?
Have I missed something here?
They just pack normal guns after all. Even with the level bonuses a Dessie can challenge by simply adding 3-4 more guns.
Over to you oh brains of EVE. Maybe I have missed a memo?
You haven't missed anything here. The "A bit slower but tankier and a bit more DPSy than a frigate" niche is already occupied by T1, T3 and Command Destroyers, and hedged in by T1 cruisers.
AFs should either be removed or given some unique role bonus like virtually every other T2 ship has.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2016.12.22 07:45:55 -
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Actually, one genuinely unique role that they might fill is "accessibility". Reduce the AF skill prerequirement to racial frigate IV, add Assault Frigates I-III or IV to the list of alpha skills, and reduce the production cost of AFs by about 2/3.
Make em cheap and easy to get into. Use them as a hook to get new players interested in fly T2 ships. AFs will still be "not great", but at least they'll be of interest and value to a large section of the players again.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2016.12.22 18:28:41 -
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baltec1 wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote: If they got an AB bonus, so they could keep their speed up when scrammed - that would be Fozzielicious!
They did, it was horribly broken.
Also the Sansha ships already have an AB bonus, disqualifying it on the "unique" requirement.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2016.12.25 14:11:06 -
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baltec1 wrote:Best buff for assault frigates is for t3d to be nerfed down to the level of t1 destroyers, each "mode" bumps the affected stats up to t2 level.
T3d would still be adaptable without shitting on everything around them.
AFs weren't exactly popular before T3Ds were introduced. Nerfing Jackdaws won't make Hawks popular, because RLML caracals, not to mention Storks will still exist, not to mention Talwars. When you're contemplating making essentially all of the small and medium ship range worse to try and make one class popular again, then maybe, just maaaaaaaaaaybe, it's time to consider applying a positive incentive to fly AFs instead of punishing people for not flying them.
"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."
Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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