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Tojo Johnson
GT Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.25 15:54:00 -
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Hello all!
Looking for some advise on upgrading my Dell box. Here is what I have right now. Computer is about 2.5 years old.
Intel i7 920 @ 2.67GHz 6 GB RAM 22" or 24" Dell monitor 1920x1061(I forget) ATI Radeon HD 4800 series Overall Windows experience (Windows 7) is 5.9. The data disk transfer rate in a 5.9. everything else is between 7.3 and 7.5.
I know my video card is an issue and it is 2 generations old. I would like to run two clients at the same time with the highest graphics level possible (for mining). Ill just run one client for my main when doing other activities. Right now, I am running one client with all possible graphic setting on or on high. I am getting 40-50 FPS generally. When I just try to load up another client, when the login screen comes up I get like 5 FPS on the main client. I used to run 3 clients at once on this same box at medium/lowish graphic settings. I dont really think I need a new puter, but need to make some upgrades to this one. Besides the graphics card, is there anything else I should look to upgrade? Also, looking for a recommedation for a Radeon card that will support me needs.
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Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2011.12.25 16:00:00 -
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Looks decent to me...
I'm currently running... Intel E7300 @3.2GHz (overclocked) 4 GB RAM 37" HDTV GeForce 260GT Windows XP SP3
I can dual client on full tilt without any issues. Usually around 65-70 FPS.
If anything, I'd suggest a Solid State drive, as they out perform any platter type drive on the market... Make ICE deplete and re-spawn just like roids. That alone would stop botting. (It'll upset the goons, so that will NEVER happen) |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.25 16:03:00 -
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just get "new" graph card. And you are set. ATI 6xxxx series or nVidia "high end" if you like things to work better in games . Without renaming filename or additional tweaking with rivatuner or whatever is that program called. |
Tojo Johnson
GT Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:08:00 -
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How about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
I am also going to upgrade my power unit as it maxs out at 360W |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:16:00 -
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the 6870 is a great card. make sure you get a good PSU and make sure it has 2, 6pin cables and enough power.. i would get a 500 or 550w just to be safe |
Tojo Johnson
GT Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:35:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback. I have been out of the hardware side of computers for awhile so pardon all my questions. This one is at a good price (530W) but I am un sure how to read it if has the proper 6 pin connections. It says PCI-Express Connector1 x 6-Pin, 1 x 6+2-Pin. Will this work? Description says it can handle high end video cards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152028
Thanks! |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:36:00 -
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OTHER than graphics card...
I've heard (though have no experience), that running multiple clients off one HDD, can be a problem, perhaps a small second HDD might solve your problem, or at least greatly affect the effiency of the two clients.
My advice is pick up a drive in the bargain bucket slam it in and test before paying out loads on a graphics card, you might find it runs sweet (or at least good enough) on what you have.
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:38:00 -
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Personally I would go at least 750 on the powersupply. If not to facilitate possible future upgrades but also in case you add on new things like another hard drive or whatever. Also most high end cards require at least that much just to run properly. Either way your PC you have right now should be more than capable of running 2 clients...maybe on lower settings or something. Of course I doubt EvE is the only game you play. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:47:00 -
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Yeah, get a new gfx board. I am still using my 2 year old puter with a quad core CPU running at lowish 2.8 GHz and 8gb RAM. I switched to a Radeon HD 6990 which a is a bit of overkill but I can run six clients at the same time with high settings. Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:12:00 -
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Tojo Johnson wrote:Thanks for the feedback. I have been out of the hardware side of computers for awhile so pardon all my questions. This one is at a good price (530W) but I am un sure how to read it if has the proper 6 pin connections. It says PCI-Express Connector1 x 6-Pin, 1 x 6+2-Pin. Will this work? Description says it can handle high end video cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152028Thanks!
6+2 pin just means it can be a 6pin, or an 8 pin so it has 2 6pin connectors for the 6870. if you can though get a corsair PSU, their quality is known throughout the internet and many build enthusiast swear by them... you have to pay a bit more though |
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Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:14:00 -
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Wait for the AMD 7 series video cards to launch in mid range.
You can get one with some awesome features (like 3W of use when the screen is blank) or you can get a cheaper 6x then. |
Duvida
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:17:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:OTHER than graphics card...
I've heard (though have no experience), that running multiple clients off one HDD, can be a problem, perhaps a small second HDD might solve your problem, or at least greatly affect the effiency of the two clients.
My advice is pick up a drive in the bargain bucket slam it in and test before paying out loads on a graphics card, you might find it runs sweet (or at least good enough) on what you have.
I haven't heard this before. Can a Dev or GM confirm this? I have no doubt that separating client operations onto 2 HDDs (or SSDs) can help things, but I'd certainly go with a better Video Card. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:24:00 -
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I run 2 accounts from the same EVE folder. No issues. And they have done alot of work to keep problems from showing up (Old old dev blogs)
So no. That is not true. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2011.12.27 21:38:00 -
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Duvida wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:OTHER than graphics card...
I've heard (though have no experience), that running multiple clients off one HDD, can be a problem, perhaps a small second HDD might solve your problem, or at least greatly affect the effiency of the two clients.
My advice is pick up a drive in the bargain bucket slam it in and test before paying out loads on a graphics card, you might find it runs sweet (or at least good enough) on what you have. I haven't heard this before. Can a Dev or GM confirm this? I have no doubt that separating client operations onto 2 HDDs (or SSDs) can help things, but I'd certainly go with a better Video Card.
Anecdotal evidence only I'm afraid. But IMO theoretically it sounds sound as each drive can use it's full bandwidth for it's own client.
But I wouldn't agrue that it's not possible to run from one client , someone in the npc corp mentioned once they had solved there graphics lag problem multi-clienting by copying it to the E: drive, I just noted it for future reference.
Perhaps someone might be good enough to test how far they can ramp there graphics across two clients in both sitauations, I can't as my E: died some time ago
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.12.27 22:09:00 -
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yup, new gfx and you're good to go that i7 will last for years to come The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
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Posted - 2011.12.27 23:31:00 -
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ive currently an o/c i7 2600K & GTX 580 & works a treat. Highest graffix, 3 clients all at 60fps Fullscreen.
considerring yours 2-+ years old, its not looking too bad.
so SSD's, graffix card, memory are all things you can tweak.
dont forget, make sure ur PSU is up to scratch. so many ppl forget this, & its an important bit of kit.
No power, no pew pew |
Opertone
Signal 7
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Posted - 2011.12.28 00:00:00 -
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SSD is a major improvement. Expensive, small, but very efficient. Every operation will improve. It is possible to use SD card with SD SATA disk emulation. (Limited on size)
New video card (ATI is better) will help.
Sound Card PCIex or PCI will boost every game performance. By simply reducing load on on board chip that shares main processor and memory. Get sound cards. They don't have dedicated processor and memory for nothing.
It is like running video off integrated video chip, like on weakest laptops - even windows will draw slow. With no sound card, your experience will be poor.
Disregard all built in, HD audio on board, HD audio on video card - this is all for 2D movies. Not going to work with video games. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.28 00:57:00 -
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Morganta wrote:yup, new gfx and you're good to go that i7 will last for years to come
Seconded. I have an i7 950, just a shade above what you have. Please don't fall into the tiny increment upgrade plan that Apple users are stuck in. Buy more up to date video cards, a decent power supply, and possibly more ram. A 2.5 GHz CPU is hard to max out - certainly it won't be done by an EVE client (excepting Incarna 1.0 for some reason). |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.28 01:48:00 -
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can you wait or is your gameplay so unbearable, cus you might want to wait until the next generation, ati 7xxx or nvidia 6xx get the new gen stuff when it comes out or pick up the 1 gen older stuff dirt cheap,
6870 is great (u might want to consider 2gb variants if cost difference is low like $30) 6950 is abit better than 6870 and still cheap,
or nvidia 560ti or 570
but do not skimp on the PSU, you dno't want huge watts and low price, it will asplode, you want a decent 500 or 600 watter, with good warranty and single rail whatever they call it wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2011.12.28 02:46:00 -
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Pentium D dual core, 2.8 1.5 GB Ram Radeon 2600 with 512 DDR2
Runs 3 clients and a forum with stations off and reduced graphics.
What is the i7 starting at now? I want a new one to play Tera but I was actually expecting to settle with an i5 |
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Tojo Johnson
GT Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:29:00 -
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Just got my shipment with the PSU and video card. Not going to have time to install today but will let everyone know how it turns out tomorrow. Oh and I did look at the SSDs and yikes! Quite pricey. That will be an upgrade down the road. |
Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:47:00 -
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The video card will help, but you'll still be a little bottlenecked by the CPU running at stock speeds. Unfortunately the i7-920 doesn't have a very aggressive turbo function (2.9ghz max I think) like the newer intel chips, so manually setting the max CPU multiplier to around 25 (25x133 = 3.33 Ghz) will help smooth out performance considerably. First make sure that your motherboard has the option to adjust the max turbo multiplier, and also keep an eye on temperatures. The 920 can probably handle a higher speed with the stock cooling. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |
Tojo Johnson
GT Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.30 19:35:00 -
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The Radeon 6870 and PSU are in and... it rocks! Playing two clients at full graphics and getting steady 60 FPS. Was getting more when I was messing with the interval options but it was hurting performance outside of Eve so I put it back to default. Installation of the PSU SUCKED. The new one is slightly longer than the old one and getting everything hooked up sucked with the restricted space of my Studio XPS case. Thanks for all of your input! |
Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
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Posted - 2011.12.31 02:01:00 -
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I was messing with the interval the other day myself. At interval immediate, it was hovering around the 300fps mark. The warp tunnel was smoother, but other than that, i couuldnt tell any other difference.
Cant be good running at them speeds? Im not all that clued up with things like that. So i went back to interval one. Glad ur stuff has worked out. & as for the SSD's, that will be because the worlds supply sank just like Atlantis did |
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