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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:05:00 -
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first : sorry for my english, I try as I can ^^
There is only the caldari who they are a EW Battleship in Battlefleet (long range battle is the most battle fights) which can use his EW at the optimal distance.
So there is only ECM at long range, with the Scorpion BS.
I think about the others BS which are not use in fleets at long range, and they can be change their config for using EW.
Scorpion :
6 high slots 8 med slots 4 low slots
special ability : 10% ECM strengh and 20% ECM optimal range per level
Example : the Dominix
- Actually he have : 6 high slots (6 turret hardpoints) 5 med slots 7 low slots special ability : 10% drone hit point and damages, 5% large hybrid turrets damages per level
- with my changes : 4 high slots (no turret and no launcher hardpoints) 8 med slots 6 low slots special ability : 10% drones hit point and damages, 20% optimal range of Dampeners per level
He can only do damage with drones, and his first job is EW with Dampeners, like the Scorpion with ECM.
We can do the same think with the Armageddon :
8 high slots (7 turret hardpoints) 3 med slots 8 low slots 10% less capacitor for large energy turrets, 5% large turret rate of fire per level
Become :
6 high slots (6 turret hardpoints) 7 med slots 6 low slots 10% less capacitor for large energy turrets, 20% optimal range for tracking diruptor per level
Typhoon :
8 high slots (4 turret and 4 launcher hardpoints) 4 med slots 7 low slots 5% large projectile turret firing speed, 5% cruise and siege launcher firing speed per level
become:
6 high slots (4 turret and 2 launcher hardpoints) 7 med slots 6 low slots 5% large projectile turret firing speed, 20% optimal range of Painter per level
I don't want to replace the recon ships, first because they are most used in roaming squad, and their EW strengh is better than the BS (not the same bonus, it's a strengh EW bonus, not an optimal EW bonus).
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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.10 15:09:00 -
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Ahem, no answer?
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Emylissan
Gallente European Science Armada
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:12:00 -
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I like your portrai, sig and avatarname :)
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.10 16:19:00 -
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Scorpion is only bs that use longrange evar for certain reason, and this is balance reason.
Imagine dominix, i dominix is turning off 7 snipers. Not rly funny Same geddon etc etc. And i mean permamently turning off what is not funny --- Alexandra Frigaro > These RISE guys have a better spawn rate than angels... |
Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.11 02:14:00 -
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not very funny?
lock, shoot, kill -- lock, shoot, kill -- lock, shoot.... etc... and laaaag :p That is the pvp in fleetbattle for the moment. The gang which have the most BS, win the battle in 90% of time. This is "no brain pvp" in eve? We have the scorpion for jamming, and it's all.
If the FC is not too stupid, the primary will be the Ewar's BS. Same for the other FC of the ennemy gang.
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Nim9i5
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:14:00 -
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LOL, domi is strong enough... are you joking.. its the strongest bs in the game.
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Nim9i5
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:16:00 -
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well duh, if the enemy has more ships there is a higher chance you lose...
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.11 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mylea Tenebrae not very funny?
lock, shoot, kill -- lock, shoot, kill -- lock, shoot.... etc... and laaaag :p That is the pvp in fleetbattle for the moment. The gang which have the most BS, win the battle in 90% of time. This is "no brain pvp" in eve? We have the scorpion for jamming, and it's all.
If the FC is not too stupid, the primary will be the Ewar's BS. Same for the other FC of the ennemy gang.
Read what i wrote, delete your post. --- Alexandra Frigaro > These RISE guys have a better spawn rate than angels... |
Del Narveux
Obsidian Angels Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.11 09:46:00 -
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EW is caldari specialty, its not supposed to be a one size fits all open to everyone sort of thing. Gallente has drones, Amarr has nos, Minnie has speed, everyone has their bonuses.
In other words, if you want to use EW on the enemy, just use a Caldari ship. If on the other hand you want to *****their hulls with the fury of bloodlust its all about the Geddons and Domis. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Ath Amon
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Posted - 2007.04.11 11:16:00 -
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i don't think something like that is really doable, at least with the current EW systems...
TP or even tracking dirsuptors are extremely inefficent in fleet battles as the distance is alredy so high that transversal/sig have little impact on hit roll
Damps on the other side will be extremely overpowered as the range is a crucial factor and with the change you proposed a single domi will be able to lock out of combat 5-6 enemy bs...
also looking at your domi out of fleet enviroment it will be an extremely overpowered ship, tons of dps+tank+uber ew...
so yup now is lock/fire lock/fire... but with proposed changes it will become lock/damp lock/damp and who have more domi or can lock the opponent domis faster (less lag :P) win
Originally by: Diana Merris
Unfortunately, rather than address the slot layout/tanking issues for Minmatar the Devs have simple declared that it makes us "versitile".
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ath Amon TP or even tracking dirsuptors are extremely inefficent in fleet battles as the distance is alredy so high that transversal/sig have little impact on hit roll
TP are... Useless most of time, and really useless for a fleet battle. But the tracking disruptor not only kills the tracking speed, but also the weapon optimal range, it's sniper killing just as the dampener.
Target painting is also not really EW, it's more eww... It may help with reducing the guns tracking penalty and the missiles damage reduced by small signaturesn but it has no defensive capability as tracking disruptors, damps and ECMs have.
The minmatar EW BS would just be crap compared to the other ones, the dominix would rock even more in close combat, he would be in range of NOS while you can't target back and take minutes to target drones. The amarr EW would be more balanced because it has no effect on missiles, and it would be a great (gun)sniper breaker. -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Flying Vexor and Ishkur, Myrmidon was too slow, got ganked by 3 BC and a Megathron... |
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