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Herbert G Wells
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.25 08:41:56 -
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Clair Bear wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:
Skill extractors require 5.5m sp and I think Alpha characters hit like 5.1m sp, so no to Alpha toon sp farming.
Read Bjorn Tyrson's article again. You can extract alpha skills, but only as an Omega account. There are 3 alphas per account, for a grand total of 15.3 million extractable SPs, for the low low price of being Omega every 18 months. So to recap, 15 million SP for the price of PLEX + extractors. Existing skill farms run at a shade under 2 mil sp for PLEX + extractors. As a bonus the alpha farm doesn't need +5s, just +3s. Way lower barrier to entry. Actually, it's even better than that. The omega month will provide an additional 1.5 million or so SP.
Incorrect. You can extract to a minimum of 5.5mil sp. That means the account has to have a minimum of 10.6 million skillpoints if you wish to extract 5.1 million of them. |
James Shackleton Caird
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.25 09:27:15 -
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Clair Bear wrote: Read Bjorn Tyrson's article again. You can extract alpha skills, but only as an Omega account. There are 3 alphas per account, for a grand total of 15.3 million extractable SPs, for the low low price of being Omega every 18 months.
So to recap, 15 million SP for the price of PLEX + extractors. Existing skill farms run at a shade under 2 mil sp for PLEX + extractors.
As a bonus the alpha farm doesn't need +5s, just +3s. Way lower barrier to entry.
Actually, it's even better than that. The omega month will provide an additional 1.5 million or so SP.
I just reread the description, and I might be misunderstanding something.
It seems to rely on two key points.
1. That an alpha toon can have an omega-length skill queue if it is set up before reverting to alpha.
2. That an alpha toon can train omega-only skills, probided they were queued up before reverting to alpha.
I don't know if either of those two points are true right now. Even if they are, they scream exploit to me, and would be very easy to fix just by having the skill queue update when status changes to alpha.
Or it is saying that you first need to have a toon with 5.5 million SP in omega only skills and 0 SP in alpha skills, which I think would take 3-4 months as an omega to do with a new toon, and then you can train the 5 mill in alpha skills over 6-7 months, extract them, and repeat? Which also screams exploit, and is also easily fixed by making those alpha-only skills non-extractable.
So I'm either completely misunderstanding the descriptions, or the ability to use an exploit to get 15 million SP extracted by going omega one month in 18 won't be sustainable. |
Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2016.12.25 11:55:12 -
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Helix Coils wrote:Knitram Relik wrote:You're already getting more than what you're paying for. You're welcome. This sort of attitude is not encouraging anyone to stick around. Want alpha's to stick around? Throw us a bone.
Your parents credit card is just the bone you need.
When folk get free stuff and still complain, it is a classic example of an 'entitlement' mentality.
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Shadow-Kill Aureus Alae
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Posted - 2016.12.25 13:05:35 -
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Helix Coils wrote:I can accept that even maxed out an alpha can't compete with an omega toe to toe. I can accept that we are gimped with what ships we can fly, modules we can use, skills we can use etc.
However this 1/2 speed skill nerf is killing me as far as enjoyment goes. I'm really not willing to wait around 2 weeks to be halfway competent in any one skill tree. 6 months to be "maxed out" Just. No.
you know... when i started this game first 3 month i learned learning - skills to gain SP - and paying subscription... next i started to gain combat skills and paying subscription... then i undock and i died miserebly - and i paying subscription... more start skills, more sp, no learning skill, skill boosters, skill injectors and you dont need to pay for it. you dont even know how easy gameplay you have now compered to old players |
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