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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
2017
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Posted - 2016.12.27 05:23:08 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:Hmm, what is more important?
Defence, ore yield or cargo hold. Just for example: my ship (Endurance) worth about 30 million ISK fully fitted. It pays for itself in like 40 minutes of mining Krystallos. It has 14k EHP and 2 warp stabilizers.
I lose them every other month.
The math is simple - AFK all the way
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Erica Dusette
Un.Reasonable
57251
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Posted - 2016.12.27 06:13:31 -
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Mining can be fun as a social thing. Like most pilots I started out that way, but soon moved onto more exciting stuff as I made more friends and got invited into riskier scenarios. Eve can be pretty intense if you let it, and even in my later years I'd keep a few mining characters. Is a nice change for an evening after months of pvp and I'd always use it to meet and socialize with other miners or newbies who'd otherwise prolly not trust my mains.
I guess some people might find the math of mining, refining and trade/manufacture a turn on too. All power to them I guess!
Trasch Taranogas wrote:W-space = defense
Lo-sec = yield
Hi-sec = hold
Elementary dear Spock.
Oh gosh no. In wormhole space I'd actually go for hold unless you have friends because chances are if you get jumped you're screwed. 9 times out of 10 you won't fend off what's coming so just be vigilant and gtfo if you can. Those 0.0 ores can be worth a lot so grab as much as you can while the goings good.
Hi sec is where you're gonna be caught off guard while relaxed. I'd go for defence. The ore isn't as lucrative anyway and if you're that bad off financially then a barge loss is gonna be a big hit. So tank up in highsex.
Lowsec kinda falls between these two extremes, imo.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1812
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Posted - 2016.12.27 06:49:21 -
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As I have said before, mining is like fishing. Something to do every once in a while when you can't be arsed to do anything more active; and to be done with friends who enjoy hanging out with you. That or you have a doorstopper you want to finish reading up before the end of that day and you don't want to let the day pass without getting something of material value while at it.
I personally wouldn't advise doing this as a day job. Work IRL is already tedious enough. Go do missions if you want something more exciting.
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Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2016.12.27 08:01:51 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:How can anybody in their right mind like mining?
Am I missing something?
Tried to get cloaking skillbok ISK by mining, taking forever.
How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK? Could buy the original Guthenberg Bible for less.
Good heavens that there are corps such as CODE. that actively do something regarding this boring Eve activity. They ensure that people have the most fun in eve BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY if they are currently in the process of operating any type of boring logistic/mining operation. |
Kalido Raddi
Echelon Research Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2016.12.27 08:11:52 -
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Mining is a lot more interactive when you have 4+ characters on grid, including compression and tractor beams to pull cans.
Once you're into a good Corp your focus is less on individual'roids and more on how fast your Corp can sycle anoms. |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
411
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Posted - 2016.12.27 15:32:09 -
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Yeah, sitting in a belt in high sec is the entry level experience for mining. If it's something you enjoy (I don't, but to each his own) then you can take it further and explore the content. At the moment that mostly boils down to increasing your exposure to PvP. But that also includes other game mechanics to explore.
Try gas mining. You need to probe down a wormhole, probe down the site, spam D-Scan hoping no one notices you, GTFO the moment either another player or rats show up. Profit.
Try ninja mining. Get a Blops bridge into dangerous space, snatch the good ore, haul buckets back to market. Profit.
Try fleet mining. Someone needs to fly a hauler. Someone needs to train for boosting. Someone needs perfect reprocessing or market skills. You don't have to do them all in a group, specialize and make yourself invaluable.
Very little of the PvE in this game is really challenging or exciting. CCP has been developing better AI, and they deserve credit for that effort. But you really can't expect much from hovering in front of a rock shooting it with a fancy flashlight, can you? If you want more action, there is usually around 30,000 other players online at any given time to shoot in the face. Many will shoot back.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
893
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Posted - 2016.12.27 16:39:28 -
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Why is boredom a bad thing?
I put 95% of my effort into work/hobbies IRL. Most of the time I play a game I love being bored for a little while. |
MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1123
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Posted - 2016.12.27 17:17:24 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote: ...How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK?...
Worth every isk. Cloaking and scanning open up so many aspects of EvE. Mining with others as a social activity can be fun. Mining solo can sometimes feel like scraping an escape tunnel out of a dungeon with a broken spoon.
Yep. I'm playing an alt right now to relearn the game. I bought a cheap probing frigate with a cloak, and one trip to a wormhole to a single, mostly failed, hacking site with basic gear paid for the ship, the gear, and the book (nettted 8 million+). The 3.5 million isk for the book is cheap really.
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Eleonora Crendraven
Global Communications AG
70
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Posted - 2016.12.27 17:42:34 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Trasch Taranogas wrote:How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK? Train up a capital pilot if you want to know what expensive skillbooks look like. Or a builder, with 30+ books at 10 million a pop. You noobies can be so precious sometimes. Mr Epeen
Don't know how many Iskies I spent for skill books... probably more than I spent for ships.
But regarding the "boring" mining: it is a great way to calm down after a long day - just spend an hour inside a belt and watch the asteroids spinning around... zzzzzzzzz.....
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4767
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Posted - 2016.12.27 19:10:27 -
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Marcus Rintel wrote:When I'm experiencing a large bout on Insomnia, I mine. After about 3 trips, I'm done, and can pass out. Though I am training to be a Production and Industry person. Liking the idea of selling what I make to you all to blow up. LOL. Just need to get my sub again to access the better P&I skills. So, mining is useful after all. It works better than Nyquil or melatonin, and no physical side effects!
Start the bubble machine!
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DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2932
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Posted - 2016.12.27 19:18:29 -
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mining is what got me into eve.
Nearly 13 years later, and i'm still playing.
It takes a certain mindset to like mining. much like to took a certain mind set to run 60 pos' reactions and an alliance.
I do the work so you can play. You are welcome.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Eve For life.
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DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2932
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Posted - 2016.12.27 19:20:01 -
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and tot he OP: if you don;t like mining, then don;t do it. tis that simple
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Eve For life.
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Athena Kitawa
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.27 19:25:10 -
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What are you guys talking about when you say "fitting for ore hold?" |
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2016.12.27 21:16:28 -
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Athena Kitawa wrote:What are you guys talking about when you say "fitting for ore hold?"
Im noob but an answer is better than no answer.
ORE has 3 types of mining ships. Good armor, fast mining (yield) or big cargo for the ore. You can also fit ships with expanders so their capacity to hold cargo increases.
I miss my IS-7
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Wander Prian
Art Of Explosions Hole Control
334
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Posted - 2016.12.27 21:25:49 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:Athena Kitawa wrote:What are you guys talking about when you say "fitting for ore hold?" Im noob but an answer is better than no answer. ORE has 3 types of mining ships. Good armor, fast mining (yield) or big cargo for the ore. You can also fit ships with expanders so their capacity to hold cargo increases.
Except there is no module that affects the specialised holds like the ore-hold
Wormholer for life.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
890
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Posted - 2016.12.27 22:27:01 -
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Mining isn't that bad. Not just rocks there's gases and ice to stare at if you wanna break up the monotony
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DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2934
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Posted - 2016.12.27 23:05:54 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Mining isn't that bad. Not just rocks there's gases and ice to stare at if you wanna break up the monotony
and maybe soon moon goo too.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Eve For life.
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PopeUrban
El Expedicion Flames of Exile
342
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Posted - 2016.12.27 23:14:41 -
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DaReaper wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Mining isn't that bad. Not just rocks there's gases and ice to stare at if you wanna break up the monotony and maybe soon moon goo too.
I really hope they do that with a module tho. Like, no moon mining from ships, and no un anattended moon mining. You go, dock in station, and cycle the miner. Mining platform is vuln when in use and for X time after last cycle. Larger platforms have shorter vuln cooldowns.
Basically an anchored, more expensive, immobile mining ship. It's invuln when not in use like other structures, vuln when in use.
Now, go anchor them in belts too. Watch content happen. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
891
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Posted - 2016.12.27 23:26:08 -
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PopeUrban wrote:DaReaper wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Mining isn't that bad. Not just rocks there's gases and ice to stare at if you wanna break up the monotony and maybe soon moon goo too. I really hope they do that with a module tho. Like, no moon mining from ships, and no un anattended moon mining. You go, dock in station, and cycle the miner. Mining platform is vuln when in use and for X time after last cycle. Larger platforms have shorter vuln cooldowns. Basically an anchored, more expensive, immobile mining ship. It's invuln when not in use like other structures, vuln when in use. Now, go anchor them in belts too. Watch content happen.
Maybe a new planet type.
A moon command center for PI
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DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2935
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Posted - 2016.12.27 23:28:28 -
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PopeUrban wrote:DaReaper wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Mining isn't that bad. Not just rocks there's gases and ice to stare at if you wanna break up the monotony and maybe soon moon goo too. I really hope they do that with a module tho. Like, no moon mining from ships, and no un anattended moon mining. You go, dock in station, and cycle the miner. Mining platform is vuln when in use and for X time after last cycle. Larger platforms have shorter vuln cooldowns. Basically an anchored, more expensive, immobile mining ship. It's invuln when not in use like other structures, vuln when in use. Now, go anchor them in belts too. Watch content happen.
eh, i;m hoping drill platform either a) mines current moons and make a belt, or b, they move moon goo into a new form, and make it so it cna be stolen.
Though if i can deploy a drill platform in under and hour, mine for an hour, then grab it and run that would make my wh dwelling heart happy. otherwise..
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Eve For life.
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PopeUrban
El Expedicion Flames of Exile
343
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Posted - 2016.12.27 23:29:03 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:PopeUrban wrote:DaReaper wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Mining isn't that bad. Not just rocks there's gases and ice to stare at if you wanna break up the monotony and maybe soon moon goo too. I really hope they do that with a module tho. Like, no moon mining from ships, and no un anattended moon mining. You go, dock in station, and cycle the miner. Mining platform is vuln when in use and for X time after last cycle. Larger platforms have shorter vuln cooldowns. Basically an anchored, more expensive, immobile mining ship. It's invuln when not in use like other structures, vuln when in use. Now, go anchor them in belts too. Watch content happen. Maybe a new planet type. A moon command center for PI
I guess you'd need a way to force-vuln them for removal in addition to the use-vuln. Probably need the same required vuln per week as other structures, just less of it. Like an hour per week or something just to make sure its not invincible just because you abandoned it. |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion Flames of Exile
343
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Posted - 2016.12.27 23:32:33 -
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DaReaper wrote:
eh, i;m hoping drill platform either a) mines current moons and make a belt, or b, they move moon goo into a new form, and make it so it cna be stolen.
Though if i can deploy a drill platform in under and hour, mine for an hour, then grab it and run that would make my wh dwelling heart happy. otherwise..
You know how most current structures start at "medium"?
I think a "small" with a shorter anchor/unanchor time with no extra fitting options (basically just a deployable drill with a docking bay and control chair) could be cool. Would give people more reasons to fly blockade runners and dsts and ****. People that want to anchor the XL could e murdering the moon with like 7 bonused drills as well as having the refinery and other stuff fitted in the same station and so on.
Having the drill spawn rocks that need to be mined by ships for moon mining is a pretty cool idea too. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6586
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Posted - 2016.12.28 07:14:26 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:How can anybody in their right mind like mining?
Am I missing something?
Tried to get cloaking skillbok ISK by mining, taking forever.
How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK? Could buy the original Guthenberg Bible for less. If you repeatedly hit yourself in the the face with a brick, and find that it hurts, then why keep doing that?
I like mining. But not all the time. I do other things too, some or all which you might find even more boring.
Mining fills a certain OCD need I have. Have to clear all those rocks from space.
That aside, if you find something boring in EvE, you should do something else. |
Etain Darklightner Agittain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.28 08:57:20 -
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I too have noticed the inflation in cost for skill books and other commodities. Also noticed the cost to player buyers for plex also went up in game currency. That explains the inflation the newbs are going on about.
Also where are you mining? Might help if you were in null instead of highsec. |
Eleonora Crendraven
Global Communications AG
71
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Posted - 2016.12.29 19:02:53 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote: Mining fills a certain OCD need I have. Have to clear all those rocks from space.
That aside, if you find something boring in EvE, you should do something else.
Exactly. If you think something's boring in EVE just don't do it. Do something else. Even if other pilots tell you the things you are doing are boring.
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Tara Kaos
Solette Industrial Holdings
1
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Posted - 2016.12.29 19:50:57 -
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Well I'm a newbie and got into Mining because I want to fly a big ship lol. It just seemed like the easiest way to achieve it. Plus running my minerals with a full ore hold in my Miasmos is really exciting/terrifying lol. Especially when the highest buyer is 7 jumps away.
But hey maybe i'm wrong, maybe there is an easier way to get into big ships. Any suggestions? |
Lena Crews
Universal Sanitation Corporation
6
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Posted - 2016.12.29 20:24:18 -
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I find solo mining extremely boring.
I rather enjoyed the mining ops I took part in way back when I played in an indy corp originally though. But that was mostly a chat with people where we happened to be mining at the same time. Kind of like going to a baseball game... the game is boring but the socializing is nice. Even then I never mined except as part of a corp op though, even with a second "hauler" account.
I even skilled up to run a hulk... which I have yet to use since returning. I'm kind of regretting that "waste" of sp right now though.
I honestly never remember thinking mining got me more isk than ratting/missions though.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2597
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Posted - 2016.12.30 00:33:55 -
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Lena Crews wrote:I find solo mining extremely boring. ...I even skilled up to run a hulk... which I have yet to use since returning. I'm kind of regretting that "waste" of sp right now though...
No problem, then. Extract those unwanted skill points and sell them or put them back into your character as skills you want. yw
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3223
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Posted - 2016.12.30 08:13:06 -
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Tara Kaos wrote:Well I'm a newbie and got into Mining because I want to fly a big ship lol. It just seemed like the easiest way to achieve it. Plus running my minerals with a full ore hold in my Miasmos is really exciting/terrifying lol. Especially when the highest buyer is 7 jumps away.
But hey maybe i'm wrong, maybe there is an easier way to get into big ships. Any suggestions? Missions are more diverse, give much better ISK, valuable standing, and teach you the basics of combat. If you like to get a taste of the real EvE, go ninja gas mining in wormholes with a Venture ... and once you are accustomed to dangerous environments, go out for exploration relic and data sites.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Alexis Red
Red Corporation
11
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Posted - 2016.12.31 19:39:21 -
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If you're into PVE and the technical side of EVE, then mining will likely be the end game for you, along with industry. It involves most aspects of the PVE game play and the most rewarding level progress when you start creating fleets.
If you're into PVP, you won't really value anything that's not blobbing someone
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