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Wormhole Walter
science and trade institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.07 18:10:38 -
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Been doing c2 and c3.s in a Gila and tengu i now want to try c4's i have a golem lying round somewhere in space i need to dig it our and fit it correctly. Can someone suggest an upto date golem fit for a c4? i have not played the game very much at all in the last 18mth
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Gallente Citizen 85214359
Rolling Static Sleeping Dragons
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Posted - 2017.01.07 18:30:55 -
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Any cookie cutter fit will work in a c4 with a golem but you're asking to be no fun fleeted using a golem in wh space. |
Wormhole Walter
science and trade institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.07 18:48:24 -
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Gallente Citizen 85214359 wrote:Any cookie cutter fit will work in a c4 with a golem but you're asking to be no fun fleeted using a golem in wh space.
so what is the general go get ship for solo c4's? caldari with missiles is my skill base |
Jonn Duune
Biomass Party
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Posted - 2017.01.08 00:29:17 -
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passive rattlesnake
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Gallente Citizen 85214359
Rolling Static Sleeping Dragons
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Posted - 2017.01.08 07:27:37 -
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Wormhole Walter wrote:Gallente Citizen 85214359 wrote:Any cookie cutter fit will work in a c4 with a golem but you're asking to be no fun fleeted using a golem in wh space. so what is the general go get ship for solo c4's? caldari with missiles is my skill base I don't know many people who solo c4's. It's usually an activity done by dual boxers or with corp mates.
I'm sure there are rattlesnake fits that will work.
Just be careful using that golem if that is the route you end up going, people come far and wide for a golem kill in WH space. |
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
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Posted - 2017.01.08 08:15:56 -
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Wormhole Walter wrote: Can someone suggest an upto date golem fit for a c4? i have not played the game very much at all in the last 18mth
cheers
yeah, don't use a marauder in WH space. those Bastion modules will get you killed. i run C5s with a pair (or more) of cap transferring, shield boosting rattles with MJDs (the mjd has saved me numerous times).
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This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Glyndi
doom generation Best Intentions.
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Posted - 2017.01.08 08:28:40 -
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Marauders are fine if your fine with the risk of losing it.
A T2 fit Golem would make easy work of C4s, though in one of the sites the sleepers RR pretty hard (i forget which site/wave). So if your cruise skills aren't that high (T2) or your not running all lvl5s for supports you prob don't want to use it yet.
Something like this would be ok...
http://puu.sh/tf9Wm/889955bd23.png
I'm sure there are 'better' options but this would at least be a good starting point. Just know that this fit and hull are still at about 1.4b.. |
Wormhole Walter
science and trade institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.08 23:04:55 -
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how about this fit will it be ok for c4's?
[Rattlesnake] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Large Micro Jump Drive Pithum C-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Ogre II x2 Gecko x2
Inferno Cruise Missile x3465 Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x4975 Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile x1000
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Andrew Indy
Jedran Space Services
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Posted - 2017.01.11 05:45:06 -
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Wormhole Walter wrote:how about this fit will it be ok for c4's?
[Rattlesnake]
I don't think so. If you are going snake it has to be 100% passive, no Invuls no booster. Hell i'm not even sure if that could do a C3, it has like 260 active tank and 460 passive regen which is less than a standard active fit but with way worse cap.
There is a fit listed in this thread. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=506420&find=unread
Just sit on a Mobile Depo and fit for more damage/tank as required.
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Kapten Conn
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.11 10:31:35 -
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Ahoy! For you background checkers, do not get fooled by my old age. I do not have that much history other than gaining some skillpoints and playing only few times.
But in that time I have had a chance to build solo C3 Rattlesnake that I ran with one of my IRL friends, who was running another solo Rattlesnake + salvaging ship with his alt. We made around 500M an hour after starting in one of C3 with full combat site list.
So after that experience our new corp broke up because of reasons. My friend went to Uni, now back in one of the holes with new corp doing PvP and PvE. I am tickling applying to their corp as well, but can't really find enough time to do so (I am afraid of commiting too much sleep time). May be it will not consume that much time, but in the mean time I have made many different Rattlesnake builds, so I hope you find one of them useful...
REMINDER! I have not run C4 sites, so think this thing through yourself!
[Rattlesnake, C3 Solo XL cruise relic C4 combat MJD relax]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Cap Recharger II Large Micro Jump Drive
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Gecko x1 Bouncer II x2 Hobgoblin II x5 Curator II x2
Mid-grade Crystal Alpha Mid-grade Crystal Beta Mid-grade Crystal Gamma Mid-grade Crystal Delta Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603 Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-803 Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903 Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003 Strong Blue Pill Booster
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x5000 Inferno Precision Cruise Missile x2500 Strong Blue Pill Booster x1 Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile x2500
With Alpha and Beta (~30 mil total) you are running around 1400 omni tank, 27 GJ/s over recharge, 6250 GJ total and 1129 dps This build should run C3 relics AND C4 combats no problem.
By adding Gamma and Delta (adds ~130 mil) + Strong Blue Pill Booster you should be able to run C4 relic and data sites solo. Total tank will be 2010 omni tank (I do not know the damageprofile of the Safeguard battleships, but I think this setup will do fine).
Setup cost without implants is just around 900 mil. Keep in mind that you need to use 3% CPU, medium Alpha and Beta crystal implants which run around 50 mil total.
If you do not want to use Boosters then in that case you need to pump the cost of the ship higher and / or add some more Crystal implants.
If you got a friend(s), then I would strongly recommend running in Duo build which open up more possibilities like:
[Rattlesnake, X duo C4 implants booster]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II 'Dyad' Co-Processor I
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script Heavy Stasis Grappler II Large Micro Jump Drive
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Large Egress Port Maximizer II Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Gecko x1 Curator II x2 Bouncer II x2 Hobgoblin II x5
Mid-grade Crystal Alpha Mid-grade Crystal Beta Mid-grade Crystal Gamma Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603 Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-803 Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903 Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003 Standard Blue Pill Booster
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x5000 Inferno Precision Cruise Missile x2500 Standard Blue Pill Booster x1 Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile x2500
This will run 1570 tank (with 3 implants and Standard Booster), 1070 dps for each ship, +38 GJ/s cap, 6890 GJ cap. On top of that you will get 2 med slots to play with. 1. Slot: As this build gets wrecked if you break your spider target, so I added Sensor Booster with ECCM script which can be swapped to Scan Resolution Script for faster targeting (until someone decides to jump you). 2. Slot: You can add different module like point / web (mixing up along friends) to make it possible to fight back.
Other idea would be to add Large capacitor to counter neuts. Unfortunately as far as I have read this Capacitor warfare resistance bonus does not counter sleeper neuts...
If you want to run C4 relic and data sites you would like to swap out the web / point (electornic warfare) equipment with another Shield Boost Amplifier II and you should be good to go.
If you feel safe in that C4 you could just swap out Sensor booster and web / point with omnidirectinoal and paint to apply dps better. Or you could add in second shield boost amp and lose the booster pill.
This build runs you around 625 mil per ship. + implants (80 mil for crystals and 20 mil for CPU).
REMINDER! I have not run C4 with either of the builds, so think this thing through or add some more information I am not aware of. I can redo the build as you require. |
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