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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2017.01.11 10:40:51 -
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Are they no longer the communication medium of choice for new stuff or was last year so starved of new content it managed to become the year with the least amount of dev-blogs since the beginning of the game?
2016 (58) 2015 (93) 2014 (146) 2013 (138) 2012 (132) 2011 (177) 2010 (104) 2009 (99) 2008 (76) 2007 (111) 2006 (98) 2005 (68) 2004 (120) 2003 (103)
source: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Amanda Creire-Geng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.01.11 10:44:00 -
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Number of blogs alone doesn't mean much, they might be condensing more info into fewer posts. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
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Posted - 2017.01.11 10:47:23 -
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Actually it is because under Seagull they have become a lot more professional and don't do dev blogs on things they have no ability to deliver and that they are condensing more into fewer posts as correctly pointed out by the poster above.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Scipio Artelius
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.01.11 10:53:08 -
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There was a recent reddit thread on this and while I rarely agree with Ripard (and most commonly disagree with him), his post here seems pretty good:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5jqovs/devblogs_in_2014_and_2016/
Falcon also makes a good contribution, pointing out the greater use of forum threads by the devs, as opposed to devblog. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.11 10:55:58 -
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Have you also counted Dev posts were lesser features were announced and open to community feedback? For example, the change to defender missiles. There was no Dev blog but a thread with the announcement but no Dev blog. |
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
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Posted - 2017.01.11 11:12:03 -
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The mods are so harsh even the devs have moved to reddit. |
Rain6637
NulzSec
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Posted - 2017.01.11 11:19:29 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Actually it is because under Seagull they have become a lot more professional and don't do dev blogs on things they have no ability to deliver and that they are condensing more into fewer posts as correctly pointed out by the poster above. oho
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2017.01.11 11:20:21 -
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Yeah it does seam they move away from the dev-blog as a medium. I am just not sure what that means for the visibility of those changes and topics
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
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Posted - 2017.01.11 11:28:50 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Actually it is because under Seagull they have become a lot more professional and don't do dev blogs on things they have no ability to deliver and that they are condensing more into fewer posts as correctly pointed out by the poster above. oho
Well putting out a dev blog with pie in the sky wishful thnking as compared to what they do now is fact, if that gets an oho and a like then what can I say.
I criticise CCP on a number of things, but I think in terms of the way they do development now and their control of the down time and servers they are truly excellent, and what they have done to capital combat is also exceptionally good, there is a layer of tactical sophistication now there which is very very good.
So oho...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato
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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
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Posted - 2017.01.11 11:56:27 -
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It's not so much less use of the medium Dev Blog, but less use of the medium EVE Forums. I'm fine with more condensed blogs that perhaps cover more topics or are better planned. I'm NOT fine with Devs retreating to Reddit for their interaction with us players. |
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2017.01.11 13:45:20 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Quite a bit of the delivery of the "meat" of dev blogs has switched to simple forum posts that outline the stats for changes that are coming.
Coupled with this, the high level direction stuff is generally covered by either EVE Updates, the semi-regular video blogs from CCP Seagull, or a combination of both.
Generally, we're trying to move away from long, monolithic walls of text that Dev Blogs tend to be, and are trying to cover most of the upcoming stuff in simpler terms, with easier to digest content.
So yeah, less dev blogs in future, and more direct communication, plus video content :
Your question has been asked and answered.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Rain6637
NulzSec
34787
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Posted - 2017.01.11 13:50:11 -
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in after the lock?
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
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Posted - 2017.01.11 14:08:46 -
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Rain6637 wrote:in after the lock?
I feel super special now. |
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
750
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Posted - 2017.01.11 14:17:49 -
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Rain6637 wrote:in after the lock?
No Lock at this time. May change if the conversation goes down hill.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Keno Skir
1157
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Posted - 2017.01.11 14:26:27 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:No Lock at this time.
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Rain6637
NulzSec
34787
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Posted - 2017.01.11 14:51:38 -
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I feel weird
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
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Posted - 2017.01.11 15:03:41 -
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This is uncharted territory, I'm scared! |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.01.11 15:06:34 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:Rain6637 wrote:in after the lock? No Lock at this time. May change if the conversation goes down hill.
You heard him boys, lets give this thread the GD treatment! okay okay, just kidding, don't spank me Max
As for the topic, I prefer the dev blogs, nice central, easy to get to place for information. In the past I would check the dev blog page before anything else, and would then follow the comments link to the discussion.
NOW if I want to stay current I have to watch twitter and reddit like a hawk, or browse multiple forum sections here. For example i didn't learn about the plan changes for Defender Missiles until I heard an alliance mate talking about it on Mumble, 2 days after the Defender Missile forum post went up because I don't usually visit F&I.
It is what it is I guess, but I still think the dev blogs were better. |
Rain6637
NulzSec
34787
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Posted - 2017.01.11 15:21:41 -
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There's also https://updates.eveonline.com/
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Lady Ayeipsia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.11 15:31:43 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:ISD Max Trix wrote:Rain6637 wrote:in after the lock? No Lock at this time. May change if the conversation goes down hill. You heard him boys, lets give this thread the GD treatment! okay okay, just kidding, don't spank me Max As for the topic, I prefer the dev blogs, nice central, easy to get to place for information. In the past I would check the dev blog page before anything else, and would then follow the comments link to the discussion. NOW if I want to stay current I have to watch twitter and reddit like a hawk, or browse multiple forum sections here. For example i didn't learn about the plan changes for Defender Missiles until I heard an alliance mate talking about it on Mumble, 2 days after the Defender Missile forum post went up because I don't usually visit F&I. It is what it is I guess, but I still think the dev blogs were better.
I don't think the Dev blogs where better. Rather it was one single source for all information, reducing the time required to locate the information. I think if there was one central source with links to the relevant blog or forum topic it would be nice.
The launcher is somewhat used for the purpose. I would just like to see a separate tab which has 3 columns you should scroll through. The columns would be Dev Blogs, Forum Feature Posts, and Video feature links.
Each column would contain links to the appropriate info. This way we would have once source to show us where to find the latest posts, blogs, and Videos. |
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2017.01.11 15:43:49 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
I don't think the Dev blogs where better. Rather it was one single source for all information, reducing the time required to locate the information.
Also known as "better" |
Lady Ayeipsia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.11 16:24:09 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
I don't think the Dev blogs where better. Rather it was one single source for all information, reducing the time required to locate the information.
Also known as "better"
I disagree. Dev blogs tended to be limited to static images and texts. They also did not contain or allow for edits of initial stats based on forum discussions. I'd rather see a video showing me animations than a Dev blog just highlighting the change. I'd rather look back at the first post to see changes based on community feedback instead of waiting for the next blog.
I think different announcements and changes can best be communicated in different ways. I just wish there was one central point that linked to all those methods. And yes all this could happen on the Dev blog by why reinvent the wheel when all that is needed is a central hub? |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2017.01.11 20:44:07 -
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It's not going in a good direction. Information should be available in one spot for easy access and searchable. Videos mostly do a terrible job here, cannot be searched at all and are basically bling. They are nice and entertaining but there are only few cases, where videos are a superior medium for information transfer atm.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2017.01.11 22:00:35 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote: I disagree. Dev blogs tended to be limited to static images and texts. They also did not contain or allow for edits of initial stats based on forum discussions. I'd rather see a video showing me animations than a Dev blog just highlighting the change. I'd rather look back at the first post to see changes based on community feedback instead of waiting for the next blog.
I think different announcements and changes can best be communicated in different ways. I just wish there was one central point that linked to all those methods. And yes all this could happen on the Dev blog by why reinvent the wheel when all that is needed is a central hub?
Because they can't put a video into a Dev blog or post a second dev blog or edits to show changes...... Oh wait they can. And have. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2017.01.12 10:26:08 -
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The main reason for the reduction in Dev Blogs in 2016 is that we've been looking at other mediums to talk about the features that we're working on.
Part of this is the fact that we've switched more to video content such as the o7 show, and feature tours for major releases (these are all available on our YouTube Channel), which cuts down the number of "Coming in this Expansion/Release" style blogs.
In addition to this we now have EVE Updates to host our medium term roadmap (it's a little bare for 2017 at present as we're still finalizing feature planning for this year before we announce).
On top of this, the fact that a lot of the "meat" of dev blogs (hard numbers etc) is posted in forum threads in this section now, mean that we don't really need to use dev blogs as much, and it's way easier for us to use the forums to talk numbers with you guys rather than a dev blog comments thread where the numbers in a blog are fixed and more difficult to edit.
We're also trying to keep our communication a lot more concise and grounded compared to what we've released in the past, so that you guys get a clearer picture of what's coming.
Hope this makes sense.
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2017.01.12 10:29:34 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:And yes all this could happen on the Dev blog by why reinvent the wheel when all that is needed is a central hub?
The idea in 2017 is to make EVE Updates into this, so that we have a rolling timeline of everything that's announced and being worked on
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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Caterpil
Alternative Dynamics
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Posted - 2017.01.12 11:28:41 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:The main reason for the reduction in Dev Blogs in 2016 is that we've been looking at other mediums to talk about the features that we're working on.
Mediums? Are you telling us that the reason for the reduction in dev blogs is that the dev team are all dead and the only way to communicate with them is via spiritualists?
Talk about bad luck... guess that door isn't going to open any time soon then. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.01.12 13:16:47 -
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Its good they are complaining about lack of dev blogs rather than complaining about lack of new features.
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mkint
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Posted - 2017.01.12 13:18:27 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:And yes all this could happen on the Dev blog by why reinvent the wheel when all that is needed is a central hub? The idea in 2017 is to make EVE Updates into this, so that we have a rolling timeline of everything that's announced and being worked on "So now you have to look at 8 different places if you want to know what's going on instead of 1! It's more unified!" - says a man who doesn't know what words mean.
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nezroy
Nice Clan
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Posted - 2017.01.12 13:48:39 -
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mkint wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:And yes all this could happen on the Dev blog by why reinvent the wheel when all that is needed is a central hub? The idea in 2017 is to make EVE Updates into this, so that we have a rolling timeline of everything that's announced and being worked on "So now you have to look at 8 different places if you want to know what's going on instead of 1! It's more unified!" - says a man who doesn't know what words mean.
https://xkcd.com/927/ |
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