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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.01.12 01:07:29 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Ok...fine...here's the TL;DR version for you.
There's a sh*t-ton of ISK to be made in Perimeter. Our dear Admiral Gobbins (The Gobfather) wanted a piece of the action so we made everyone an offer they couldn't refuse. A few people refused, so we're taking them out of the picture. Permanently. Horde-Style.
Better?
That's the funny part: there really isn't. All of Karin's cits, combined, made less than 10b a month. The PL guys who ran some of the other cits and the EC in there tried telling Gobbins, but Raknor's got him convinced there's insane money to be made in there, and Gobbins is desperate for capital SRP, since they're down to the dregs of the donation fund.
Best part? Gobbins can't even tell his own guys the truth. He claimed he offered Karin a 50/50 split, but both Karin and the PL guys say it was a demand for 100b up front and 80% of the profits, plus complete audit authority on his books. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2885
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:02:34 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:James Syagrius wrote:Mr. Mokk.
Congratulations and best wishes to your and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State. Thank you very much Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business.
Hey, Mokk, since you've got people buying into the 'ethical business practices' nonsense, exactly what unethical business practices were present? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2886
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Posted - 2017.01.13 20:40:03 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote: The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.
Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty.
So how does 'communication and trust' square with Gobbins' misrepresentation of the demands he made on Karin? I mean, you're citing 'a path of dishonesty' as the crime. Meanwhile, Gobbins is saying it was an offer of '50/50', and everyone else involved (both from RMT and Pandemic Legion) is saying it was a demand of 100bn up front, and 80% of the profits ongoing. So, isn't that a path of dishonesty?
And even you attempted to portray all of this as a purely altruistic 'oh, Horde came in to make things better for traders' until you were confronted and admitted it's because Gobbins is after all the imaginary ISK he's fool enough to think is there for the taking.
So... 'trust'? 'Dishonesty'? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2887
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:11:35 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Have you ever tried getting a comprehensive d-scan of a goon fleet? Unintentional it may be, but having one fleet spread across multiple systems full of stragglers is a surprisingly effective means of making scout reporting infuriatingly tedious.
S'truth, we're amazingly bad at aligning. Thank goodness most of our enemies are even worse at tackling stragglers. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2893
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Posted - 2017.01.14 05:55:01 -
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Gaven Lok'ri wrote:He wasn't any better then. Sinjin proved himself to be classless garbage a long time ago.
I really hope you don't feel this way about all of us out in null. We're really not all classless.
Some of us are decidedly low-class. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2896
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Posted - 2017.01.14 14:34:47 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Because at the end of the day, they know their Empire has a black and rotten core, built on the backs of slaves.
Objecting to slavery would sound more convincing if it weren't coming from someone who'd been peddling slaves only a month ago.
And Ria: No those people are all Class 1-6. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2896
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Posted - 2017.01.14 14:53:27 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:The slave peddling was a ruse m'dear. A con. The means to a specific end. Not everyone here speaks the truth 100% of the time.
Given past history, and that it wasn't the only time in recent months you've been peddling slaves, I completely believe that you don't speak the truth 100% of the time. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2914
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Posted - 2017.01.17 17:26:42 -
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So, Mokk, I'm hearing all sorts of amusing little rumors about how your little venture's falling flat on its face. Most of the traders woouldn't use your citadel if you paid them, Karin's still dropping his own like an addict drops tabs, and you guys can't get enough butts in fleets to deal with highsec mercs. Can't even afford to SRP Hurricanes fer cryin' out loud. Guess it wasn't the ISK faucet Gobbins (and only Gobbins) imagined, huh? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2920
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Posted - 2017.01.19 02:15:26 -
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No ulterior motives here, Rookie, just a good network of contacts. (And frankly, if you think this is indignation, you really need your 'is Mokk being mocked?'-meter adjusted.) And no, we're not footing the bill for Karin at all.
And facts, Mokk, show the PLEX and Injector marketsGÇöthe very items Gobbins was obsessed withGÇöavoiding Horde like the veritable plague. Your FCs are whining about not being paid, and your pilots didn't exactly respond the way Gobbins wanted to when he polled them about being willing to stay.
BTW, really? A poll?
And sorry, Sinjin, my sources aren't Mittens. They're decidedly more... Hordeish. |
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