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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1091
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Posted - 2017.01.11 20:12:31 -
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Press Release:
From: Pandemic Horde, Inc., The Beanstar, 7RM-N0
Begin Transmission:
Greetings pilots and people of New Eden.
As you may have noticed, Pandemic Horde has begun a major operation in Caldari HiSec.
It recently came to our attention that certain markets in and around Jita were exhibiting less an honest trade dealings. These corporations were not just taking advantage of Capsuleers, but threatened the stability of the galactic economy.
Since Jita is the closest major trade hub to our homes in Pure Blind and Fade, the danger to the economy represented a danger to our operations and the continued stability of the North.
After much discussion we decided to reach out to several corporations that operate in the Perimeter/Jita/New Caldari area. We made several offers of assistance to the corporations there and were, for the most part, well received. We look forward to continued good business dealings with these specific corporations, the State and the major corporations within the State.
Sadly, two lesser corporations, Riemannian Manifold Torus and Omega & Friends Medialabs were not honest in their business dealings. As a result and after considerable deliberation, it has been decided that they, their subsidiaries and the mercenaries that they hire will be removed from Perimeter and the surrounding systems.
The operation to liberate Caldari from these false and dastardly corporate entities has been referred to as "Burn Perimeter." We realize the negative connotation this tongue-in-cheek name has. We would like to assure the peace loving people of Caldari and their corporations that, like a forest fire, we seek only to clear away the diseased dead wood to allow for a new growth of prosperity.
Pandemic Horde has already onlined a few citadels in the Perimeter system and we welcome all to visit, explore and grow with us. We offer affordable office space and a host of new opportunities.
Unfortunately, for those who oppose us, we'll be bringing death, fire and a host of very, very unpleasant endings.
We look forward to operating in the State and are exited to present to you the very best NullSec has to offer from the comfort and relative safety of HiSec.
Fly Safe!
End Transmission
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
567
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Posted - 2017.01.11 20:36:41 -
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You're not fooling anyone.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1724
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Posted - 2017.01.11 20:41:05 -
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Best of luck with this! Though I am curious, any additional benefits for potential traders basing out of there? Tax rates, ect? |
Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1092
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Posted - 2017.01.11 21:08:47 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Best of luck with this! Though I am curious, any additional benefits for potential traders basing out of there? Tax rates, ect?
An excellent question and the answer is yes.
Tax rates are currently 0%.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9029
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Posted - 2017.01.11 21:19:37 -
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Somehow, I don't think Mr. Mokk is exactly a duly-appointed diplomat.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1092
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Posted - 2017.01.11 21:25:16 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Somehow, I don't think Mr. Mokk is exactly a duly-appointed diplomat.
I am but the messenger, the above release was officially sanctioned prior to release.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
579
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Posted - 2017.01.11 21:32:30 -
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Sanctioned slander. Horde's propaganda may work on their own employees well enough, but their public relations needs work if they expect anyone outside their band of psychotic capsuleers to take them seriously.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1092
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Posted - 2017.01.11 21:49:46 -
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John Revenent wrote:Sanctioned slander. Horde's propaganda may work on their own employees well enough, but their public relations needs work if they expect anyone outside their band of psychotic capsuleers to take them seriously.
Why Johnny Revenent, why all the salt? Is it because we're able to accomplish the things you can only dream about? Maybe you should join us? You'll have a lot more fun and make a much bigger positive impact on the State than your current job.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Nomistrav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
474
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Posted - 2017.01.11 21:56:28 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:John Revenent wrote:Sanctioned slander. Horde's propaganda may work on their own employees well enough, but their public relations needs work if they expect anyone outside their band of psychotic capsuleers to take them seriously. Why Johnny Revenent, why all the salt? Is it because we're able to accomplish the things you can only dream about? Maybe you should join us? You'll have a lot more fun and make a much bigger positive impact on the State than your current job.
I am curious how 'positive' is defined here.
"As long as space endures,
as long as sentient beings exist,
until then, may I too remain
and dispel the miseries of the world."
~ Vremaja Idama
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1092
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Posted - 2017.01.11 22:03:19 -
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Nomistrav wrote:
I am curious how 'positive' is defined here.
Instead of running around Black Rise, trying to shoot Gallente, we're taking steps to get the refuse out of the Perimeter area and develop some mutually-beneficial markets.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
594
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Posted - 2017.01.11 22:04:40 -
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Hahah.. what? Stating the truth is salt now?
The Horde has zero motivation to truly aid the State in any form. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it so you can stop pretending.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1092
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Posted - 2017.01.11 22:11:23 -
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John Revenent wrote:Hahah.. what? Stating the truth is salt now?
The Horde has zero motivation to truly aid the State in any form. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it so you can stop pretending.
If you were to start stating the truth...
Truth is, our efforts will certainly aid us. A lot.
But our efforts will definitely help the State. Just consider the sheer amount of tax ISK we've already pumped into the local economy.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Nomistrav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
474
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Posted - 2017.01.11 23:49:33 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:John Revenent wrote:Hahah.. what? Stating the truth is salt now?
The Horde has zero motivation to truly aid the State in any form. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it so you can stop pretending. If you were to start stating the truth... Truth is, our efforts will certainly aid us. A lot. But our efforts will definitely help the State. Just consider the sheer amount of tax ISK we've already pumped into the local economy.
Buying from Jita isn't necessarily boosting the State's economic prowess by any means than benefitting those local manufacturers - of which I am sure there are few as trade hubs are usually not synonymous with manufacturing hubs. In fact, you're more likely to be providing for the economy of Gallentean couriers.
"As long as space endures,
as long as sentient beings exist,
until then, may I too remain
and dispel the miseries of the world."
~ Vremaja Idama
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Jade Blackwind
1250
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Posted - 2017.01.11 23:50:22 -
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When I last was in Perimeter, my overview was covered with the damn Riemannian Torus structures.
I thought they are a storefront of someone who has the real power.
If they aren't, serves them well for attracting too much attention. When you literally fill Perimeter with your stupid citadels and you can't do jack when an entity like Pandemic or Goons attack, this is what you get.
Can I agree with an Angel once in a while? No, I really hate you folks, but now, just burn all those things down. They had it coming. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
606
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Posted - 2017.01.12 00:08:21 -
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*Coming Soon*
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1056
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Posted - 2017.01.12 00:20:55 -
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Oh come on, do you have to make even the Hordelings into spin fabricating hurfblurfers? I liked the 'little beans' thing and the honest and refreshing simplicity of it. No one's buying that nonsense, so why peddle it when you can just be bloody honest about it. No one really minds, seriously. Those citadels are run by all manner of tedious 'businessmen' with agendas of their own so no one - who's opinion really matters - are going to cry bitter tears over them, but now you're just trying to play the mustache twirling cartoon villain spinning a completely see-through yarn that no one would buy.
Go back to tootling the tard tuba. It's far more Horde than this blather. |
Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1093
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Posted - 2017.01.12 00:51:51 -
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Nomistrav wrote: Buying from Jita isn't necessarily boosting the State's economic prowess by any means than benefitting those local manufacturers - of which I am sure there are few as trade hubs are usually not synonymous with manufacturing hubs. In fact, you're more likely to be providing for the economy of Gallentean couriers.
Right you are!
Which is why were also disabling all the POCOs in the area as well as all the Citadels in Perimeter (with a few exceptions for our friends) and replacing them.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1094
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Posted - 2017.01.12 00:58:03 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Oh come on, do you have to make even the Hordelings into spin fabricating hurfblurfers? I liked the 'little beans' thing and the honest and refreshing simplicity of it. No one's buying that nonsense, so why peddle it when you can just be bloody honest about it. No one really minds, seriously. Those citadels are run by all manner of tedious 'businessmen' with agendas of their own so no one - who's opinion really matters - are going to cry bitter tears over them, but now you're just trying to play the mustache twirling cartoon villain spinning a completely see-through yarn that no one would buy.
Go back to tootling the tard tuba. It's far more Horde than this blather.
Ok...fine...here's the TL;DR version for you.
There's a sh*t-ton of ISK to be made in Perimeter. Our dear Admiral Gobbins (The Gobfather) wanted a piece of the action so we made everyone an offer they couldn't refuse. A few people refused, so we're taking them out of the picture. Permanently. Horde-Style.
Better?
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1060
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Posted - 2017.01.12 00:59:41 -
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Better. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2874
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Posted - 2017.01.12 01:07:29 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Ok...fine...here's the TL;DR version for you.
There's a sh*t-ton of ISK to be made in Perimeter. Our dear Admiral Gobbins (The Gobfather) wanted a piece of the action so we made everyone an offer they couldn't refuse. A few people refused, so we're taking them out of the picture. Permanently. Horde-Style.
Better?
That's the funny part: there really isn't. All of Karin's cits, combined, made less than 10b a month. The PL guys who ran some of the other cits and the EC in there tried telling Gobbins, but Raknor's got him convinced there's insane money to be made in there, and Gobbins is desperate for capital SRP, since they're down to the dregs of the donation fund.
Best part? Gobbins can't even tell his own guys the truth. He claimed he offered Karin a 50/50 split, but both Karin and the PL guys say it was a demand for 100b up front and 80% of the profits, plus complete audit authority on his books. |
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James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1483
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Posted - 2017.01.12 01:47:03 -
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Mr. Mokk.
Congratulations and best wishes to your and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1095
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Posted - 2017.01.12 02:51:23 -
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James Syagrius wrote:Mr. Mokk.
Congratulations and best wishes to your and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State.
Thank you very much Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
13
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Posted - 2017.01.13 06:13:12 -
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Hehh. Always wanted to visit the North to see the sights, try the drinks n' boosta' flavours. Might as well do it when there are fireworks. Thanks fo' the heads up! |
Matar Ronin
3705
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Posted - 2017.01.13 06:46:01 -
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Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1882
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Posted - 2017.01.13 07:28:12 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.
You can blame the Guristas for opening the window to trade with the State. However, really, any capsuleer could just waltz right on in to Jita and bypass the Gurista fencers entirely.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1487
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Posted - 2017.01.13 18:39:33 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:James Syagrius wrote:Mr. Mokk.
Congratulations and best wishes to you and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State. Thank you very much, Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business. A kind offer, that I would avail myself of if the State Navy would permit.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2885
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:02:34 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:James Syagrius wrote:Mr. Mokk.
Congratulations and best wishes to your and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State. Thank you very much Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business.
Hey, Mokk, since you've got people buying into the 'ethical business practices' nonsense, exactly what unethical business practices were present? |
Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1110
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:39:19 -
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Arrendis wrote:[quote=Sinjin Mokk] Hey, Mokk, since you've got people buying into the 'ethical business practices' nonsense, exactly what unethical business practices were present?
The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.
Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty. Now while this can happen in some business relationships, in this case it was rather severe. And since these companies were in control of a large portion of the local market, if they weren't square with us, it was highly doubtful they were square with anyone. They were trying to have a...what's the Caldari word? A..Dokusen? A Monopoly.
So as I write this, we've made that fairly impossible for them. With the removal of several Raitarus, Azbels, a Sotiyo (the first ever destroyed in combat) and countless Planetary Commodity exchanges (POCOs) throughout the surrounding systems, we've been able to systematically remove them from the local economy (HORDE-style).
Be sure to swing by Perimeter today. We have some additional exercises in "Mergers and Acquisitions" (Murders and Executions) lined up, with plenty of fireworks.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Window Licker McTard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:52:25 -
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And I thoughts the Pandemic Jita Vendetta thingy was about Sol returning to bust a cap on his old Archie merc bro's who dissed and diched him as CEO. Revenge is a dish best served cold and all that. Man you guys are deeeeep thinkers, my brain would explode if I did all your thinkng. But hey im just a special elit ganker.
I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder.
I have no honor.
Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2886
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Posted - 2017.01.13 20:40:03 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote: The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.
Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty.
So how does 'communication and trust' square with Gobbins' misrepresentation of the demands he made on Karin? I mean, you're citing 'a path of dishonesty' as the crime. Meanwhile, Gobbins is saying it was an offer of '50/50', and everyone else involved (both from RMT and Pandemic Legion) is saying it was a demand of 100bn up front, and 80% of the profits ongoing. So, isn't that a path of dishonesty?
And even you attempted to portray all of this as a purely altruistic 'oh, Horde came in to make things better for traders' until you were confronted and admitted it's because Gobbins is after all the imaginary ISK he's fool enough to think is there for the taking.
So... 'trust'? 'Dishonesty'? |
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1069
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Posted - 2017.01.13 20:52:21 -
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Don't take Sinjin's posts as representative of anyone but Sinjin, seriously. I mean, he's actually not a terrible poster for what he is, but he shiptoasts more than I do. |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
634
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:31:43 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed. Horde? Are you serious right now?
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
92
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:33:57 -
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Worrisome.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Saille Horo'Sha
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:35:58 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Don't take Sinjin's posts as representative of anyone but Sinjin, seriously. I mean, he's actually not a terrible poster for what he is, but he shiptoasts more than I do.
Let's be honest lass, you COULD get a bean to write up one of these press releases to make it 'represent' Horde a wee bit better, but we're almost as bad at aligning text as we are at aligning ships. No-one wants to see that. Aside from the Imperium's propaganda team, maybe.
I barely have the ISK to keep myself flying. I'm a terrible pilot. I'm an even worse businesswoman. I'm not even sure what half my ship's controls are for. But in some small way, I'm helping. And I couldn't be happier.
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Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
283
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:36:05 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.
The horde will better the lives of their leadership, the downtrodden masses will remain downtrodden, the planets will continue to revolve in their orbits. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
614
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:37:57 -
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Arrendis wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.
Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty.
So how does 'communication and trust' square with Gobbins' misrepresentation of the demands he made on Karin? I mean, you're citing 'a path of dishonesty' as the crime. Meanwhile, Gobbins is saying it was an offer of '50/50', and everyone else involved (both from RMT and Pandemic Legion) is saying it was a demand of 100bn up front, and 80% of the profits ongoing. So, isn't that a path of dishonesty? And even you attempted to portray all of this as a purely altruistic 'oh, Horde came in to make things better for traders' until you were confronted and admitted it's because Gobbins is after all the imaginary ISK he's fool enough to think is there for the taking. So... 'trust'? 'Dishonesty'?
There is no trust involved here and the only communication is a generous slathering of lies. Mokk claiming Horde somehow has the high-ground on the matter is laughable. Why he continues with his charade is beyond me.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1070
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Posted - 2017.01.13 23:13:13 -
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Saille Horo'Sha wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Don't take Sinjin's posts as representative of anyone but Sinjin, seriously. I mean, he's actually not a terrible poster for what he is, but he shiptoasts more than I do. Let's be honest lass, you COULD get a bean to write up one of these press releases to make it 'represent' Horde a wee bit better, but we're almost as bad at aligning text as we are at aligning ships. No-one wants to see that. Aside from the Imperium's propaganda team, maybe.
Oh come now you're not that bad at it. I mean, I've seen 'Imperium' fleet movements. You guys clear that bar at the very least. Have you ever tried getting a comprehensive d-scan of a goon fleet? Unintentional it may be, but having one fleet spread across multiple systems full of stragglers is a surprisingly effective means of making scout reporting infuriatingly tedious. |
Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
711
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Posted - 2017.01.13 23:37:04 -
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Sinjin, what is this bullshit?
You are in PanFam, not in the Imperium. We do not do need these 'here is why we are doing what we are doing and why you should be on our side' posts. We ACT, New Eden REACTS.
**** the soft ball 'helping the people's market' and 'danger to the economy of the north' excuse. No one at all is buying it and the people who think otherwise are just going to dig deeper into their idiotic conspiracy fueled heads hearing it. **** your assurances and damage control and stop wasting your time explaining the causes and sequence of events that got Horde here.
Horde is taking over the highsec tax haven's. That is all these people need to know and that is all you need to share.
They will figure the rest out themselves. Just like when our supercapitals appear on grid and their regions burn, just like when their members leave en mass because of waffle camps at every hour of the day for months, and just like when they see the horde ticker on every citadel outside Jita.
Our actions will speak for themselves.
As strength goes.
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1110
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:11:02 -
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John Revenent wrote: There is no trust involved here and the only communication is a generous slathering of lies. Mokk claiming Horde somehow has the high-ground on the matter is laughable. Why he continues with his charade is beyond me.
So is basic arithmetic.
But do swing by Perimeter and you can file a proper protest with the Complaints Dept.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2887
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:11:35 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Have you ever tried getting a comprehensive d-scan of a goon fleet? Unintentional it may be, but having one fleet spread across multiple systems full of stragglers is a surprisingly effective means of making scout reporting infuriatingly tedious.
S'truth, we're amazingly bad at aligning. Thank goodness most of our enemies are even worse at tackling stragglers. |
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Karmilla Strife
Black Dog Shady Missionaries
525
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:29:23 -
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Ayallah wrote:Sinjin, what is this bullshit?
Mr. Mokk, loves to let everyone know how much he loves the organization he is a part of. Let the man have his fun. I'm just glad he has stopped trying to speak for the Khanid Kingdom and Angel Cartel. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
622
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:40:03 -
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You know I had more respect for him when he did.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Karmilla Strife
Black Dog Shady Missionaries
527
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:54:42 -
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He's never spoken for Ishukone. |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
520
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Posted - 2017.01.14 05:52:30 -
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John Revenent wrote:You know I had more respect for him when he did.
He wasn't any better then. Sinjin proved himself to be classless garbage a long time ago.
Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2893
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Posted - 2017.01.14 05:55:01 -
[45] - Quote
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:He wasn't any better then. Sinjin proved himself to be classless garbage a long time ago.
I really hope you don't feel this way about all of us out in null. We're really not all classless.
Some of us are decidedly low-class. |
Matar Ronin
3706
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Posted - 2017.01.14 06:05:35 -
[46] - Quote
Why so mean Pilot Mokk is a prime example of Imperial Academy education, the pride of that empire. Why does he merit such harsh comments?
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Ria NieyIi
925
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Posted - 2017.01.14 06:06:10 -
[47] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Gaven Lok'ri wrote:He wasn't any better then. Sinjin proved himself to be classless garbage a long time ago. I really hope you don't feel this way about all of us out in null. We're really not all classless. Some of us are decidedly low-class.
I thought those were some of the people that live in wormholes. |
Nakito Kobara
Yamagata Syndicate Circle-Of-Two
75
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Posted - 2017.01.14 09:31:46 -
[48] - Quote
Sounds like an extortion racket cover up to me....
Yamagata Syndicate - Null sec - PvP - Join today!
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
869
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Posted - 2017.01.14 13:34:20 -
[49] - Quote
The Horde can go suck on a lemon! |
Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1123
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Posted - 2017.01.14 13:52:36 -
[50] - Quote
Matar Ronin wrote:Why so mean Pilot Mokk is a prime example of Imperial Academy education, the pride of that empire. Why does he merit such harsh comments?
Because I left.
Because at the end of the day, they know their Empire has a black and rotten core, built on the backs of slaves. Because they hate and fear what they don't understand and what they can't control.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2896
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Posted - 2017.01.14 14:34:47 -
[51] - Quote
Sinjin Mokk wrote:Because at the end of the day, they know their Empire has a black and rotten core, built on the backs of slaves.
Objecting to slavery would sound more convincing if it weren't coming from someone who'd been peddling slaves only a month ago.
And Ria: No those people are all Class 1-6. |
Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1123
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Posted - 2017.01.14 14:44:18 -
[52] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:Because at the end of the day, they know their Empire has a black and rotten core, built on the backs of slaves.
Objecting to slavery would sound more convincing if it weren't coming from someone who'd been peddling slaves only a month ago. And Ria: No those people are all Class 1-6.
The slave peddling was a ruse m'dear. A con. The means to a specific end. Not everyone here speaks the truth 100% of the time.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2896
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Posted - 2017.01.14 14:53:27 -
[53] - Quote
Sinjin Mokk wrote:The slave peddling was a ruse m'dear. A con. The means to a specific end. Not everyone here speaks the truth 100% of the time.
Given past history, and that it wasn't the only time in recent months you've been peddling slaves, I completely believe that you don't speak the truth 100% of the time. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2842
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Posted - 2017.01.14 16:56:32 -
[54] - Quote
Sinjin Mokk wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Why so mean Pilot Mokk is a prime example of Imperial Academy education, the pride of that empire. Why does he merit such harsh comments? Because I left. Because at the end of the day, they know their Empire has a black and rotten core, built on the backs of slaves. Because they hate and fear what they don't understand and what they can't control.
Mr. Mokk, I do kind of get the idea that nearly everybody's the hero of their own story, but you realize you're making this argument while wearing an Angel Cartel jacket?
If you're arguing that slavery is something deeply corrupting, that's a problem the Cartel shares. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1075
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Posted - 2017.01.14 17:04:08 -
[55] - Quote
People also post wearing bloody power armor. I am going to go out on a limb and say these people are not CQB specialists. Fashion is not what I'd nail him for. |
Window Licker McTard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2017.01.14 17:26:06 -
[56] - Quote
What do all u peasants know about the Horde op in jita, nuthen. truth be told twas me who suggested it to Gobbins down the pub a few wks ago. He said to me, after a few glasses of the amber fluid ( well 1 glass ), Window Licker matey potaty im in a rut, my alliance is in a rut. We are always in the shadow of PL. What can we do? And I says to him Jita is where its at. The filthy lucre is where its at. Who really cares what happens in the biggy alliances on the fringes of higersec. The center is where its at. get there, get there.
I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder.
I have no honor.
Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.
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Saille Horo'Sha
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3
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Posted - 2017.01.14 18:31:54 -
[57] - Quote
Yarosara Ruil wrote:The Horde can go suck on a lemon!
What? All of us?
I didn't realise the citrus market had crashed to the point we could only afford one singular lemon!
Maybe I can buy a Titan with my fruitbowl...
I barely have the ISK to keep myself flying. I'm a terrible pilot. I'm an even worse businesswoman. I'm not even sure what half my ship's controls are for. But in some small way, I'm helping. And I couldn't be happier.
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
870
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Posted - 2017.01.14 18:49:22 -
[58] - Quote
Saille Horo'Sha wrote: What? All of us?
I didn't realise the citrus market had crashed to the point we could only afford one singular lemon!
Maybe I can buy a Titan with my fruitbowl...
YES! EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU! BUT SPECIALLY YOU, FOR NO PARTICULAR REASON!
GRRRRRRR HOOOOOOORDE!!! HAAAAAAT HOOOOOOOOORDE!!! |
Rook Moray
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
201
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Posted - 2017.01.14 18:57:04 -
[59] - Quote
Yarosara Ruil wrote:Saille Horo'Sha wrote: What? All of us?
I didn't realise the citrus market had crashed to the point we could only afford one singular lemon!
Maybe I can buy a Titan with my fruitbowl...
YES! EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU! BUT SPECIALLY YOU, FOR NO PARTICULAR REASON! GRRRRRRR HOOOOOOORDE!!! HAAAAAAT HOOOOOOOOORDE!!!
Aww...and here I thought you was gettin kinda sweet on me.
GÇ£When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.GÇ¥ -Guristas Proverb.
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Saille Horo'Sha
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
5
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Posted - 2017.01.14 18:59:55 -
[60] - Quote
Rook Moray wrote:Aww...and here I thought you was gettin kinda sweet on me.
Hard luck, lad. When they roll out the 'grr', in allcaps no less, it's time to start moving on. It just wasn't meant to be.
I barely have the ISK to keep myself flying. I'm a terrible pilot. I'm an even worse businesswoman. I'm not even sure what half my ship's controls are for. But in some small way, I'm helping. And I couldn't be happier.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
430
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Posted - 2017.01.14 19:11:11 -
[61] - Quote
Truth or not, the effort at outreach is at least admirable in that it's being made. So, thank you.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2842
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Posted - 2017.01.14 19:54:43 -
[62] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:People also post wearing bloody power armor. I am going to go out on a limb and say these people are not CQB specialists. Fashion is not what I'd nail him for.
He's also a repeatedly-declared Cartel loyalist, Miz. When he left the Empire, that's where he went.
If he's no longer an Angel, he's very far from made that clear.
(Moral equivalency was at least arguable, depending on the values in play. Moral superiority, explicit or implicit, seems like a harder sell.) |
Jev North
Hyperpredator Rest Home
530
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Posted - 2017.01.14 20:38:41 -
[63] - Quote
I'm in an alarmingly good mood, so I'm reading this as Sinjin sharing his efforts at propaganda writing with us, as a shared joke, a wink and a nod at the artistry of bullshit.
Good one, pilot.
Das ist schmutzig, falsch und moralisch höchst verwerflich. Bin dabei.
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
903
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Posted - 2017.01.15 05:52:39 -
[64] - Quote
Horde is doing a thing? Must post a thing stating my opinion on the thing...
My opinion: Don't care, I don't buy from Jita much, too far to go for the basic stuff I run 90% of the time.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1125
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Posted - 2017.01.15 14:12:43 -
[65] - Quote
Aria Jenneth wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:People also post wearing bloody power armor. I am going to go out on a limb and say these people are not CQB specialists. Fashion is not what I'd nail him for. He's also a repeatedly-declared Cartel loyalist, Miz. When he left the Empire, that's where he went. If he's no longer an Angel, he's very far from made that clear. (Moral equivalency was at least arguable, depending on the values in play. Moral superiority, explicit or implicit, seems like a harder sell.)
Oh I'm still very, very much an Angel. Archangel, to be exact.
How that balances out with HORDE is...well, not the business of people here. But HORDE has a wide variety of pilots. Cartel operatives, Serpentis, Guristas, Bloodraiders, and multitudes of non-aligned pilots from every corner of the Galaxy are all represented
It is a horde, after all. Not a sewing circle.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1889
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Posted - 2017.01.15 14:24:38 -
[66] - Quote
Tyrel Toov wrote:Horde is doing a thing? Must post a thing stating my opinion on the thing...
My opinion: Don't care, I don't buy from Jita much, too far to go for the basic stuff I run 90% of the time.
I pay the other guy to move stuff to-and-fro Jita for me, with collateral to cover the possibility of loss. I'm not too concerned about this.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
169
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Posted - 2017.01.15 22:47:43 -
[67] - Quote
Woah, a service I only used to buy skill injectors just got taken down and replaced by PH. Absolutely radical, dude.
Glory to Bob
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2914
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Posted - 2017.01.17 17:26:42 -
[68] - Quote
So, Mokk, I'm hearing all sorts of amusing little rumors about how your little venture's falling flat on its face. Most of the traders woouldn't use your citadel if you paid them, Karin's still dropping his own like an addict drops tabs, and you guys can't get enough butts in fleets to deal with highsec mercs. Can't even afford to SRP Hurricanes fer cryin' out loud. Guess it wasn't the ISK faucet Gobbins (and only Gobbins) imagined, huh? |
Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
873
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Posted - 2017.01.17 17:31:11 -
[69] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:So, Mokk, I'm hearing all sorts of amusing little rumors about how your little venture's falling flat on its face. Most of the traders woouldn't use your citadel if you paid them, Karin's still dropping his own like an addict drops tabs, and you guys can't get enough butts in fleets to deal with highsec mercs. Can't even afford to SRP Hurricanes fer cryin' out loud. Guess it wasn't the ISK faucet Gobbins (and only Gobbins) imagined, huh?
This is the smell of burnt Hordelings. It is scented like charred caramel! |
Pieter Tuulinen
Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle
6998
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Posted - 2017.01.17 17:40:45 -
[70] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:So, Mokk, I'm hearing all sorts of amusing little rumors about how your little venture's falling flat on its face. Most of the traders woouldn't use your citadel if you paid them, Karin's still dropping his own like an addict drops tabs, and you guys can't get enough butts in fleets to deal with highsec mercs. Can't even afford to SRP Hurricanes fer cryin' out loud. Guess it wasn't the ISK faucet Gobbins (and only Gobbins) imagined, huh?
I'm a first aider, Sinjin. Do you need any assistance treating that sick burn?
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1127
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Posted - 2017.01.18 16:30:28 -
[71] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:So, Mokk, I'm hearing all sorts of amusing little rumors about how your little venture's falling flat on its face. Most of the traders woouldn't use your citadel if you paid them, Karin's still dropping his own like an addict drops tabs, and you guys can't get enough butts in fleets to deal with highsec mercs. Can't even afford to SRP Hurricanes fer cryin' out loud. Guess it wasn't the ISK faucet Gobbins (and only Gobbins) imagined, huh?
Amusing rumors.
Facts, however tell a different story. To date, our venture has been decidedly ISK-positive. Trade continues to grow. If Karin wants to keep building, we'll keep denying him assets. I bet we can produce a lot more hurricanes than he can produce citadels. HiSec mercs? Please. Ganking a few strays at the Jita undock is hardly an issue. Pro tip: If you undock or enter grid with more than five ships, they scurry. Oh...wait, you folk are still trying to figure out how the undock process works, aren't you?
Just because Mittens says something or you read it on SaltNet does not mean it's truth. I invite you to research the facts for yourself.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1127
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Posted - 2017.01.18 16:32:20 -
[72] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I'm a first aider, Sinjin. Do you need any assistance treating that sick burn?
No, I'm quite immune to the effects of dim light bulbs. Thanks though.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1098
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Posted - 2017.01.18 16:53:33 -
[73] - Quote
I've fought those highsec "mercenaries" (mandatory "daww, that's adorable!" in that baby seal walking into a club kind of way), and I've fought alongside Horde a few times. Unless Horde is applying less than a tenth of their usual numbers, those "mercs" (no really, it's unbelievably cute) are no match in any actual engagement.
I have no trouble believing they're losing plenty of dumbarses to the usual camps, but not engagements that matter. That would take far too much change for better or worse, in both entities.
I swear, that one time I threw some change at those "mercs" to go do some work I couldn't be bothered with myself, they couldn't even do that much. Literally my worst isk investment of all time, and some of those are so bad they are legendary.
On another note, anyone else have these boards screw up posts lately? |
Rook Moray
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
201
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Posted - 2017.01.19 01:12:32 -
[74] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:So, Mokk, I'm hearing all sorts of amusing little rumors about how your little venture's falling flat on its face. Most of the traders woouldn't use your citadel if you paid them, Karin's still dropping his own like an addict drops tabs, and you guys can't get enough butts in fleets to deal with highsec mercs. Can't even afford to SRP Hurricanes fer cryin' out loud. Guess it wasn't the ISK faucet Gobbins (and only Gobbins) imagined, huh?
I got a rumor. Word is that you Goons are floating some of Karin's bankroll.
Got a snarky comment on that one chica? Or we jus gonna go with you got some serious ulterior motive backing your indignation?
That's what I thought.
Back to the salt mines you go.
GÇ£When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.GÇ¥ -Guristas Proverb.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2920
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Posted - 2017.01.19 02:15:26 -
[75] - Quote
No ulterior motives here, Rookie, just a good network of contacts. (And frankly, if you think this is indignation, you really need your 'is Mokk being mocked?'-meter adjusted.) And no, we're not footing the bill for Karin at all.
And facts, Mokk, show the PLEX and Injector marketsGÇöthe very items Gobbins was obsessed withGÇöavoiding Horde like the veritable plague. Your FCs are whining about not being paid, and your pilots didn't exactly respond the way Gobbins wanted to when he polled them about being willing to stay.
BTW, really? A poll?
And sorry, Sinjin, my sources aren't Mittens. They're decidedly more... Hordeish. |
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
908
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Posted - 2017.01.19 03:33:21 -
[76] - Quote
Sinjin Mokk wrote:Oh...wait, you folk are still trying to figure out how the undock process works, aren't you?
1) **** fit ship of choice
2) fly ship into wall of hanger repeatedly
3) station tows you out to prevent further damage
4) ? ? ?
5) profit?
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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