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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:26:00 -
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Some of us like to mine and want to have an ore cap ship that has long been rumoured, WTF is it already???
Any word or fuel for the rumour mill?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:30:00 -
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I heard it will only be allowed to fly in 1.0 and that only allow to process a special type of ore that will only be found in 0.45
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:33:00 -
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It's already there but it's lagging up. Give it a while.
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Jayne Tamm
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:35:00 -
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this ore cap ship is gona cause sooo many problems.
its gona flood the market with minerals and the prices are all gona drop.
the maket will suffer in the long term
still...i like big ships...so i am intrigued :)
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Kritinana
Minmatar Dark Empire Fleet
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh Some of us like to mine and want to have an ore cap ship that has long been rumoured, WTF is it already???
Any word or fuel for the rumour mill?
define long........? These things take time dude. Patience is a virtue. Though, I heard that it was going to be able to refine corpse collections into meat popsicles & suasage links to feed onboard exotic dancers entertaining stinky miners. Got to be some good money there.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba I heard it will only be allowed to fly in 1.0 and that only allow to process a special type of ore that will only be found in 0.45
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paracidic
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: paracidic on 17/04/2007 07:38:25 Long = I am sure I remember hearing about this about a year ago, That seems long to me specially in a game. I mean I am fine in my hulk tanker, but for convienience or whatever a ore cap would be cool, Perhaps no mining bonus over hulks but a mobile refinery or whatever might make it attractive.
But the idea that it can only be in a 1.0 and mine in a .45 sounds very intriquing. This Chribba my friend has just become eve-o fact. It would use a cyno?? You would target the jaspet from your spot in OUrsleart and wham, it is in your hold. Thats brilliant. I so can't wait. :)
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Dielon
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:42:00 -
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Notify: 'Your Mega Anode Particle Mining Laser perfectly strikes Asteroid Velpsar wrecking for 2349500 ore.'
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Kritinana
Minmatar Dark Empire Fleet
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: paracidic Edited by: paracidic on 17/04/2007 07:38:25 Long = I am sure I remember hearing about this about a year ago
A year eh? I didn't think it'd been nearly that long, though I've still got some nubstink yet to rub off. So demand away, I want one too =( especially if i can mine nullsec from Kisogo
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Darg Even
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:53:00 -
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I don't want a cap refining or mining ship. I want a cap transport ship. Like the carrier, but designed for moving stuff, not combat.
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Tolomea
Gallente 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:28:00 -
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For my part I'm greedy and want 3 new ships.
1: capital transport, cyno frieghter with some means of pos docking 2: mobile refinery, 100% refine, needs to anchor and be fed stront to do it's magic 3: mining fleet command ship, like a normal fleet command but with bonus to mining links
none of these should be able to use strips or have personal mining bonuses
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Lou Margoulin
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:31:00 -
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I'm looking forward a Doom Day Device that wtfpwnd belt with one button.
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Jayne Tamm
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Darg Even I don't want a cap refining or mining ship. I want a cap transport ship. Like the carrier, but designed for moving stuff, not combat.
hmmm....funny...i thought there already were ships like that....aka freighters
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jayne Tamm
Originally by: Darg Even I don't want a cap refining or mining ship. I want a cap transport ship. Like the carrier, but designed for moving stuff, not combat.
hmmm....funny...i thought there already were ships like that....aka freighters
I think he means 100km3 haulers, since freightors cannot scoop or drop atm. --
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Tolomea
Gallente 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.04.17 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Jayne Tamm
Originally by: Darg Even I don't want a cap refining or mining ship. I want a cap transport ship. Like the carrier, but designed for moving stuff, not combat.
hmmm....funny...i thought there already were ships like that....aka freighters
I think he means 100km3 haulers, since freightors cannot scoop or drop atm.
either that or a cyno freighter
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Zeonos
Amarr venus divine brotherhood
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:03:00 -
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love frig in 1.0.. WTF. why is all the belts empty?... response. some capital miner fired his Doom Day Device. try another system. :)
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:26:00 -
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Seems likely that a capital mining ship will also be limited to 0.4 down, like all the other capitals. So not crashing the market, simply because there'll always be those who don't want to mine dangerously.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tolomea Edited by: Tolomea on 17/04/2007 08:34:50 For my part I'm greedy and want 3 new ships.
3: mining fleet command ship, like a normal fleet command but with bonus to mining links
none of these should be able to use strips or have personal mining bonuses
3: would be command ships, mining and mining director, if you look at the current fleet command ships this will make sense
I don't get why a mining fleet command ship shouldn't have the capability to mine efficently (stripminers).
The existing command ships are good fighting ships, they don't lose the capability to do what they command, so I don't see why a ship commandina fleet of mining ships shouldn't be capable of mining.
It should be approximately on par with the hulk, or even have the space for only 2 stripminers but the slot for two mining links and maybe an utility slot for a tractor beam so he can gather all the can in a single spot for ease of hauling, but it should be capabable of mining and not capable of combat.
To me your proposed ship seem to be: a lousy miner (on par or worst than the current command ships) with limited combat capability (so it is not particularly useful even as a tank for the mining gang).
A that point a standard command ships seem more efficent, as it will provide combat protection to the mining gang.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.17 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jayne Tamm this ore cap ship is gona cause sooo many problems.
its gona flood the market with minerals and the prices are all gona drop.
the maket will suffer in the long term
still...i like big ships...so i am intrigued :)
You do realize that is a good thing
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.17 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Darg Even I don't want a cap refining or mining ship. I want a cap transport ship. Like the carrier, but designed for moving stuff, not combat.
Freighter lol
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Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.04.17 10:22:00 -
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We were hearing about titans in 2003. I'm not sure how you can possibly think you've been waiting a long time.
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Tolomea
Gallente 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.04.17 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
I don't get why a mining fleet command ship shouldn't have the capability to mine efficently (stripminers).
The existing command ships are good fighting ships, they don't lose the capability to do what they command, so I don't see why a ship commandina fleet of mining ships shouldn't be capable of mining.
It should be approximately on par with the hulk, or even have the space for only 2 stripminers but the slot for two mining links and maybe an utility slot for a tractor beam so he can gather all the can in a single spot for ease of hauling, but it should be capabable of mining and not capable of combat.
To me your proposed ship seem to be: a lousy miner (on par or worst than the current command ships) with limited combat capability (so it is not particularly useful even as a tank for the mining gang).
A that point a standard command ships seem more efficent, as it will provide combat protection to the mining gang.
The current command ships have a bonus to warefare links, this doesn't include mining links, in a sufficiently large operation any ship with a bonus to mining links will have a viable role even a shuttle.
Having mining support ships not be miners is a strong personal view of mine and I imagine it will be the source of flame wars.
My reasoning is that these ships are designed to support and encourage group operations. If you produce something that mines as well as a hulk and has additional gang bonuses then every hulk pilot with a brain is going to buy one and gang with their hauler alt. Where as if you make it a non mining ship the it only becomes useful in groups of a half dozen or more.
Also the skillset you need to be a good mining leader is totally separate from the mining skillset and takes something like 6 months to train. As someone who has gone through that 6 months (nearly all the training on my second account) I most definitely don't want to have to train T2 barge skills to get access to a new ship that is arguably designed specifically for characters like mine.
Personally as far as a command ship goes I'd be looking at a combat ship comparable to the existing fleet command ships. But with bonuses and skill reqs more mining orientated. This ship would replace my mining leader myrmidon and I think it should be a logical progression from that ship, to be frank my only problem with the EOS is that it's bonus doesn't apply to mining links.
From an RP point of view ORE doesn't do combat they hire an NPC core to protect them. So it wouldn't be an ORE ship it'd be made by whichever NPC group is currently protecting ORE, I can't remember who it is at the moment. Hopefully that faction has an appropriately sized ship hull we can pinch.
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