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0001 Astarte
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.15 18:20:36 -
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Hey,
looking for a Tengu fit to run lvl 4 missions. Some ppl say HAMsome say HML...so some advice and fits would be nice! |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5170
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Posted - 2017.01.16 07:41:33 -
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0001 Astarte wrote:Hey, looking for a Tengu fit to run lvl 4 missions. Some ppl say HAMsome say HML...so some advice and fits would be nice! It's spelled R-a-v-e-n. Seriously though, you'll do better in almost every L4 wit something that allows you to vary the damage types.
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Kitty Bear
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Triumvirate.
1585
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Posted - 2017.01.16 12:25:50 -
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You actually have 3 choices with the Tengu, all 3 can complete L4's without issue.
HML or HAML or RLML
HML has better range kills BS's quickly kills frigates slowly
HAML has poor range kills BS's quickly kills frigates slowly
RLML has poor range kills BS's slowly kills frigates quickly
generic fit info
Subsystems TDef - Amplification Node TElec - Dissolution Sequencer TEng - Augmented Capacitor TOff - Accelerated Ejection Bay TProp - Fuel Catalyst
Rigging Slots (choose from) 2-3x Capacitor Control Circuit 1x Warhead Calefaction Catalyst 2x Flare Catalyst + 1x Rigor Catalyst
High Slots (choose from) 6x HML 6x HAML 6x RLML
Medium Slots 1x Medium Shield Booster 2x Shield Hardeners (Mission Specific) 1x 10mn AB (choose 2 from below) or 1x Shield Boost Amplifier or 1x Target Painter or 1x Stasis Webifier or 1x Missile Guidance Computer + Precision Script
Low Slots 3x Ballistic Control System 1x Missile Guidance Enhancer
Ignore the naysayers, unless of course you want a second job where ISK/hr is the critical essential reason for playing as fun is for children and irrelevant.
edit Missiles come in 4 flavours .. EM, Kin, Therm, Expl This might surprise some people it seems, but the Tengu can carry all 4 in it's cargo bay imagine that ....... |
Rei Y
Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation
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Posted - 2017.01.16 12:47:42 -
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Kitty Bear wrote: edit Missiles come in 4 flavours .. EM, Kin, Therm, Expl This might surprise some people it seems, but the Tengu can carry all 4 in it's cargo bay imagine that .......
why would you? Accelerated Ejection Bay gives 25% to kinetic damage. thus kinetic is better for anything except EM-weak rats, i.e. sansha and blood raiders. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5173
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Posted - 2017.01.16 13:04:56 -
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Rei Y wrote:why would you? Accelerated Ejection Bay gives 25% to kinetic damage. thus kinetic is better for anything except EM-weak rats, i.e. sansha and blood raiders. Don't ruin it for him...
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Eladanus
White Sun Enterprises
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Posted - 2017.01.16 13:22:29 -
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It's true that you probably can get better ISK/hr efficiency from other ships, and some will put out more DPS or tank harder. But unless you're worried about being as efficient as possible, just fly what you want.
Personally, I don't like the sluggishness of battleships, so I've been looking at taking the below fit for a spin. Also gives me a Tengu to go out and do exploration and other stuff if I want without buying a new hull.
It's not at all optimal, but it's cheap at 465M, does 840DPS up close and tanks 746 against guristas (which is probably way more than it needs) and is cap stable. That's with LVL5 skills in subsystems but my not perfect skills elsewhere, and a couple of 20M hardwirings. Hits 940DPS with all level 5 skills, and will go over 1K if you bling it just a little.
Seems a decent basis for you to build one on. I'm sure people will chime in with adjustments below too.
[Tengu, PVE LVL4]
Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster 'Stalwart' Particle Field Magnifier Pith C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Parallel Enduring Target Painter 10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
As for HML vs. HAMs, the fit above (at all level 5 skills) gets 940DPS at 36km, but changing them to heavy missiles gets 689DPS at 102km. So it's a toss-up of range and damage. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5174
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Posted - 2017.01.16 17:30:18 -
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Battleships aren't as sluggish as they once were and you can purchase and fit more than a few for the same cost as a Tengu. But if one really has their heart set on a Tengu...
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2455
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:42:06 -
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the fits are pretty much the same for HML or HAM, bcus in the lows, wee bit of tank in the mids with prop mod, T3 resists and sig mean you can get away with pretty much anything as a tank, I used a deadspace small shield booster with an EM and Invlun. Missiles in the highs.
The rigs are the one spot you might want to make a change. The tengu doesn't really need much from rigging so my choices are application rigs, range rigs, or a t2 rate of fire rig. My fits always used the t2 rof rig plus 2 flare rigs, but CCP has made a few changes since then. A lot of players seem to like the HAM fit with range rigs. And many like a bit more application with the HML fits. Also with the new missile guidance computer you might want to use one of those in the mids.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Kitty Bear
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Triumvirate.
1586
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Posted - 2017.01.17 03:06:32 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Rei Y wrote:why would you? Accelerated Ejection Bay gives 25% to kinetic damage. thus kinetic is better for anything except EM-weak rats, i.e. sansha and blood raiders. Don't ruin it for him...
Don't worry, I won't.
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0001 Astarte
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.17 06:58:13 -
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Thx for all the infos so far.
I know tested this fit - its doing very well and i tank everything easily
[Tengu, SLIDER] 'Page' Capacitor Flux Coil I Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Missile Guidance Computer II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II
Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x4754 Missile Range Script x1 Missile Precision Script x1 Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x1590
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