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Quincyy
Mobius Industries Perfect Dark
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Posted - 2017.01.16 08:28:46 -
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The following documents have been prepared for your better understand of some of the things I wish to discuss today.
Datacore - Draft Of Paz Information
I am interested in any and all who have any interest in working with, collaborating with, joining, or helping such a cause. Any question may be asked.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
170
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Posted - 2017.01.16 08:53:16 -
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There's a clever and condescending way to put this project down while at the same time cracking a joke. I can't find that comment.
Good luck.
Glory to Bob
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Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
18
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:08:29 -
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Peace...? Of all things. Well, wot can be betta' than fightin' fo Peace. Da one wid that capital P. Definately beats Freedom - dat slippery basterd of a concept that makes people throw away them lives en masse. Capital F dat is.
And only fo' 20% tax? Ya'll need phalanxes o' pitchfork to keep 'em applicants in line. Lucky fo' ya, ya filter out them illiterates first.
Lucky fo' me ya're lookin' fo the best o' da best', while I bes only a mediocre of the low'stlives. But wishin' ya the best sis-Q. Can't get meself to call ya Mum-Q. But still - can't wait fo' yer Universe o' Peace to come.
Maybe ya shouldda' add Love n'-or Equality to da mix. People historically like to fight fo' those too. |
Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:12:18 -
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I will be honest when I say that I believe your constitution needs quite a bit of work. However, I say this not in a bitter or conceited way. Instead, I say it with hopes that you will take the moment to review and think harder on what it is you are trying to achieve.
"Peace" can be defined in many ways to many different people. I personally do not feel it is possible to lay down a single template for obtaining it, when it is so dynamic. There is much to consider, and when one part of your constitution deems that a single person holds the power of changing any decision rather than a board as a whole, you may find that some people doubt the sincerity of what you are trying to achieve. To be clear, this is not necessarily my own doubts, but just the doubts I believe you may come up against.
Nevertheless, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavour. |
Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
95
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:26:09 -
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You will find that the path to peace is a road rarely traveled. To many here it will be seen as naive or a foreign concept unworthy of their efforts. But to a select few here it will be seen as courageous and worthy effort.
No dream is unreachable to those who dare to strike out against the odds. Good luck pilot.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
121
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Posted - 2017.01.16 14:02:52 -
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I wish you the best, truly. I think all that many of us want is peace, one way or another, and the chance to be useful, and to have some goals of our own?
But ooooooh, the Mother of Peace is you, and while votes will happen, any of them can be vetoed by you with no mention of how that might be overturned. I can already feel the bubbling resentment, the sense of injustice! Mind that! Gallente statecraft likes to experiment with different levels of checks on authority, bless it. I....don't think this looks like one of the experiments that allowed the population to continue voting?
And with a title like Mother of Peace you'll need nicer robes, of course. They help. |
Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2017.01.16 14:20:28 -
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So a "benevolent" dictatorship under the guise of an oligarchy... can't see any way this could possibly go wrong. frankly you are better off just admitting to it being a dictatorship, at least that way you wouldn't be starting out based on a lie. |
Quincyy
Mobius Industries Perfect Dark
13
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Posted - 2017.01.16 18:43:56 -
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Without having to go into it, many of you seem to have missed on page three where it talks about additions, adjustments, ect while it is finished being formed.
Protections would of course be added, I simply do not have the knowledge that some others do from different perspectives, and therefore, I put a note to say it is not finished.
Apparently, however, every person who has decided to open the datacore never got that far.
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Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
125
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Posted - 2017.01.16 18:49:04 -
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There's really no "of course" about the protections; governments operate at all levels of protections and lack thereof!
I think, maybe, that you are trying to write a founder's statement and a constitution or what-have-you at the same time. It's better if they're separate. |
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
287
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:24:58 -
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Peace is a noble goal. I am, however, of the opinion that peace is not something that can be enforced externally, it is something which one must find within themselves. When one is at peace they naturally radiate that peace into their every day interactions thus promoting others to be at peace with themselves.
On the other hand many confuse peace for control. Peace enforced by the threat of destruction or punitive measures is hardly peace at all.
I am hoping your initiative pursues the former definition of peace.
I am intrigued by your plan. I like the idea of a bastion of peace to serve as a shining beacon for the people of New Eden. Do you already have territory for this project? It sounds like you are interested in nation building, and as most sectors of New Eden have been claimed I wonder where this nation would be physically located.
In any case I will keep an eye on this. If I like what I see I may choose to become involved. |
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1089
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:27:55 -
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There are two and only two ways to guarantee peace. Total surrender or total domination. Neither option are to be desired. |
Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
52
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Posted - 2017.01.16 20:20:02 -
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Quincyy wrote:Apparently, however, every person who has decided to open the datacore never got that far.
On the contrary, it was read, actually. From what I see (and what I meant, myself, when speaking an opinion which it seems you asked of people), is that the current form has a few immediate concerns that may need focused on first. A few have even pointed out which area in particular seems troublesome.
That is not ignoring or skipping over/not making it through what you wrote regarding changes. It is giving advice on what people think is an issue. Is this advice not what you wanted? |
Quincyy
Mobius Industries Perfect Dark
13
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Posted - 2017.01.16 22:50:13 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Peace is a noble goal. I am, however, of the opinion that peace is not something that can be enforced externally, it is something which one must find within themselves. When one is at peace they naturally radiate that peace into their every day interactions thus promoting others to be at peace with themselves.
On the other hand many confuse peace for control. Peace enforced by the threat of destruction or punitive measures is hardly peace at all.
I am hoping your initiative pursues the former definition of peace.
I am intrigued by your plan. I like the idea of a bastion of peace to serve as a shining beacon for the people of New Eden. Do you already have territory for this project? It sounds like you are interested in nation building, and as most sectors of New Eden have been claimed I wonder where this nation would be physically located.
In any case I will keep an eye on this. If I like what I see I may choose to become involved.
A place is one of the biggest issues. I do not wish to go to war to procure a paradise. I posted what I had written for these exact things, to either confirm what problems I knew it had, or others I had overlooked.
Mizhara Del'thul wrote: ]There are two and only two ways to guarantee peace. Total surrender or total domination. Neither option are to be desired.
I agree. Some of the things people have pointed out is why I am torn between two ways of leading. I know myself, I trust myself, but nobody else does. That's why I know myself.
Studying does show that power does change people, and I have never been in a position of power.
So, I need a way to put a way to remove me from power if it came to that, but at the same time, I'm worried about being over thrown for violent tendencies, instead of continuing to propagate peace.
Julianni Avala wrote:Is this advice not what you wanted? It is, and I thank you for it. I shall continue to make revisions as much as I can, while studying old and new forms of governments to see what I can do to improve it.
I appreciate the time you all have taken to look over this project. It will not be easy, and it may be a long time before it comes to fruition. But I'm not going to sit back and watch us tear each other apart when horrible things lurk.
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Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
874
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Posted - 2017.01.16 23:07:40 -
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Quincyy...come have a chat with me...if you catch me at the right time I might have some advice...I've written similar things.
Peace,
-Ch+¬
Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation
Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
905
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Posted - 2017.01.16 23:59:57 -
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Do I get to shoot stuff?
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Quincyy
Mobius Industries Perfect Dark
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Posted - 2017.01.17 00:10:23 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:Do I get to shoot stuff? If someone shoots at you.
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
906
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Posted - 2017.01.17 00:28:12 -
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Quincyy wrote:Tyrel Toov wrote:Do I get to shoot stuff? If someone shoots at you. I prefer proactive shooting. It gives one a better chance of being the one to survive.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
21
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Posted - 2017.01.17 00:28:53 -
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I dream of a huge fire consumin' a rainforest, and a goodwillin' soul tryin' to extinguish it by shootin' buckets o' water nailed to tomahawk rockets into the tempest. |
Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
437
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Posted - 2017.01.17 03:37:01 -
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I'll neither respond with criticism nor statements of the implausibly of your vision, but will instead say three words...
My best wishes.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1899
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Posted - 2017.01.17 04:08:28 -
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I do not see how your attempt in making a nation be any different from all those other city states out there.
I also felt that us capsuleers are going to be really awful at being the government, what with our disconnection with the baseliners and our various psychosis. Yes, myself included. I rather let the baseliners handle most of the actual governing.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
288
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Posted - 2017.01.17 15:33:15 -
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Quincyy wrote: A place is one of the biggest issues. I do not wish to go to war to procure a paradise.
You could consider Anoikis there are plenty of unclaimed systems out there. Of course living out there comes with it's own challenges, Anoikis seems to breed a certain strain of paranoia among capsuleers. |
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
875
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Posted - 2017.01.17 16:39:35 -
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Praise bob!
Hell, there even are capsuleer colonists in Anoikis who have similar desires for peace.
Well...there used to be, anyway.
Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation
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Slayer Liberator
The Scope Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2017.01.30 22:52:37 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:I do not see how your attempt in making a nation be any different from all those other city states out there.
I also felt that us capsuleers are going to be really awful at being the government, what with our disconnection with the baseliners and our various psychosis. Yes, myself included. I rather let the baseliners handle most of the actual governing. I was a Cloned Soldier and I don't have any psychosis just a kinda short temper and a tendency to throw people who anger me across the room. |
Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2017.01.30 23:46:00 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:I do not see how your attempt in making a nation be any different from all those other city states out there.
I also felt that us capsuleers are going to be really awful at being the government, what with our disconnection with the baseliners and our various psychosis. Yes, myself included. I rather let the baseliners handle most of the actual governing. I was a Cloned Soldier and I don't have any psychosis just a kinda short temper and a tendency to throw people who anger me across the room. That's called "anger issues" pal. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3028
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Posted - 2017.01.31 01:30:06 -
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The deadliest threat to life and peace in the known Universe is the Gallente Federation. There can be no peace while it exists. If you can offer a peaceful way for them to abolish their Federal charter and undone them as a political entity, then we could talk.
Otherwise I prefer to act like they taught us to act: to reply on violence with greater violence. Efficiently and professionally. And we will keep doing that until they have teeth, until they have weapons that they use to kill innocents.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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