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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2017.01.16 18:44:09 -
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Just sitting off of most, sometimes every gate of every highsec system I jump into? Do gankers use Thrashers? What does CODE. use? |
Lady Ayeipsia
Perkone Caldari State
1310
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Posted - 2017.01.16 18:53:38 -
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Thrashers allow for high volley or alpha damage. This means that a single shot from artillery (projectile weapon) causes the most damage per shot. Note this does not mean the most DPS as there is a high cool down time between shots. So yes, thrashers tend to be popular gank weapons. One volley could kill a ship before concord intervenes.
That said, a lone thrashed has limited value. It may pop a pod or an underarmored frigate, but not much else. Those thrashed you are may be fast locking hoping to catch suspect pods passing through. However to the average player they are not a threat.
As for code... They tend to operate in lower sec systems where there is a delay to concord response. Due to the delay, DPS is more important so catalysts are the prefered ship. |
Kazual Jayde
Virgin Plc Evictus.
30
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:08:11 -
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The kill boards are littered with people carrying PLEX or BPCs in shuttles.
Kaboom.
It's easier to be in the right place at the right time if you have eyes everywhere. |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
1699
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:47:47 -
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It's the PLEX police. They are only attracted by plex or injector tanked ships. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27343
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:55:15 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:It's the PLEX police. They are only attracted by plex or injector tanked ships. WTB universal Police skin.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2781
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Posted - 2017.01.16 19:56:19 -
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There is an especially dedicated CODE pod / corvette / shuttle ganker hanging around in Niarja and nearby systems. He has a number of scout Thrashers at the gates as well as his gank thrashers that come in when he sees a good target, such as someone in a pod auto-piloting.
Also some AG are having fun ganking gankers scouts, which is great to see.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
20140
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Posted - 2017.01.16 20:17:27 -
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Dracvlad wrote:There is an especially dedicated CODE pod / corvette / shuttle ganker hanging around in Niarja and nearby systems. He has a number of scout Thrashers at the gates as well as his gank thrashers that come in when he sees a good target, such as someone in a pod auto-piloting.
Also some AG are having fun ganking gankers scouts, which is great to see. This is Aaaargh! Aaaargh! Is the reason why you don't sit still in Madi/niarja/aphend when you're flying anything small. If you live nearby Aaaargh! will get you eventually because he's like a force of nature and frankly I ****ing respect that.
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
Lords.Of.Midnight currently recruiting
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2017.01.16 22:38:41 -
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I guess the gankers are out on the town today. I was almost ganked by an insta-lock Tornado with artillery fit on station undock in highsec near Amarr. One shot (glancing blow) and my entire shield, entire armor, and half my hull was gone, but I escaped due to his long reload, and he was destroyed by CONCORD plus some other dude in a Legion who joined in.
I don't care about the gank attempt. I do care about the insta-locking. I have max targeting skills but I have never been able to get anything close to insta-lock, especially using big guns. So I don't know why he gets to insta-lock. I mean literally as soon as I came out of station and started aligning to gate, he hit me. It was less than 1 second lock and hit time.
I've continued to check him on kill mails, and he's still in that system, ganking people. He's had a string of kills plus losses. I didn't bother to do the math to see if he was coming out ahead or not. He wasn't CODE. however. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
20148
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Posted - 2017.01.16 22:50:22 -
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I'll take"what are remote sebos?"for 500, Alex
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
Lords.Of.Midnight currently recruiting
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Hipqo
Tyde8
158
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Posted - 2017.01.16 23:23:06 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:I guess the gankers are out on the town today. I was almost ganked by an insta-lock Tornado with artillery fit on station undock in highsec near Amarr. One shot (glancing blow) and my entire shield, entire armor, and half my hull was gone, but I escaped due to his long reload, and he was destroyed by CONCORD plus some other dude in a Legion who joined in.
I don't care about the gank attempt. I do care about the insta-locking. I have max targeting skills but I have never been able to get anything close to insta-lock, especially using big guns. So I don't know why he gets to insta-lock. I mean literally as soon as I came out of station and started aligning to gate, he hit me. It was less than 1 second lock and hit time.
I've continued to check him on kill mails, and he's still in that system, ganking people. He's had a string of kills plus losses. I didn't bother to do the math to see if he was coming out ahead or not. He wasn't CODE. however.
[Tornado, "Insta-lock" concept]
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Medium Ancillary Current Router I [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot]
Level 5 skills across the board give you theese stats:
Total Cost: 122m Volley (alpha): 11.790
Lock Times are:
POD: 2,2 s Interceptor: 1,9 s Frigate: 1,8 s Destroyer: 1,3 s Cruiser: 1,1 s Battlecruiser: 0,9 s Battleship: 0,8 s Carrier: 0,5 s
Just a quick example wiped up in PYFA, im in no way saying people are using this fit or anything like it, just showing you how fast a tornado potentially can lock targets and how much damage one volley can do.
If you also position yourself correct, tracking isnt really an issue with big guns. (straight lines FTW)
A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5175
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Posted - 2017.01.16 23:44:57 -
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There are lots of ships that can out-EHP or outrun a lot of insta-locking ships. My favorites are the Leopard and Hecate, both of which can hit warp before even appearing on enemy overviews.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2017.01.17 00:04:38 -
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Hipqo wrote: Just a quick example wiped up in PYFA, im in no way saying people are using this fit or anything like it, just showing you how fast a tornado potentially can lock targets and how much damage one volley can do.
Good analysis. Perhaps something like this combined with the "I'll take remote sebos for 500" idea the other guy proposed. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27352
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Posted - 2017.01.17 00:07:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:There are lots of ships that can out-EHP or outrun a lot of insta-locking ships. My favorites are the Leopard and Hecate, both of which can hit warp before even appearing on enemy overviews. Uhh nope, you're visible on the overview the moment you do anything that triggers the decloak animation; the animation is not an indicator of your visibility on the overview, it's just eye candy.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2017.01.17 00:34:13 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Just sitting off of most, sometimes every gate of every highsec system I jump into? Do gankers use Thrashers? What does CODE. use?
because EVE is a piece of **** joke of a game where risk averse aggressors have all the advantages. They take no risks and pay negligible costs in "suicide ganking" to reap potentially enormous rewards.
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2017.01.17 01:20:59 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: because EVE is a piece of **** joke of a game where risk averse aggressors have all the advantages. They take no risks and pay negligible costs in "suicide ganking" to reap potentially enormous rewards.
I have no problem with your assessment; merely with your clone. You look like Jen aSide. That isn't a compliment.
I'll chip in for a resculpt for you if others will. |
Khan Wrenth
Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation
746
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Posted - 2017.01.17 01:27:04 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:because EVE is a piece of **** joke of a game where risk averse aggressors have all the advantages. They take no risks and pay negligible costs in "suicide ganking" to reap potentially enormous rewards.
Victory favors the bold. Take initiative and you too, can have the advantage.
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4818
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Posted - 2017.01.17 04:11:51 -
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Somebody talking bad about Thrashers here? "Damn Thrasher"? That's Mr. Thrasher to you, sir. |
Chopper Rollins
Far Beyond Triggered
1752
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Posted - 2017.01.17 04:16:37 -
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lol hisec
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
1004
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Posted - 2017.01.17 04:36:19 -
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Yes! Finally some thrasher tears, you have no idea how sick I am of the catalyst pilots lording it over us. Thrasher pilots matter! |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1200
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Posted - 2017.01.17 04:52:02 -
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Stop rolling through the pipeline systems and you wont see any gankers really.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2017.01.17 05:24:17 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Yes! Finally some thrasher tears, you have no idea how sick I am of the catalyst pilots lording it over us. Thrasher pilots matter!
Your clone looks like a combination of a cadaver and a plastic frack doll. I find myself sickened, repulsed, and yet somehow oddly attracted all at the same time. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5175
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Posted - 2017.01.17 06:07:38 -
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Beast eof Revelations wrote:Your clone looks like a combination of a cadaver and a plastic frack doll. I find myself sickened, repulsed, and yet somehow oddly attracted all at the same time. It's the neck twist that creeps me the f*ck out...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
306
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Posted - 2017.01.17 08:11:39 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:I guess the gankers are out on the town today. I was almost ganked by an insta-lock Tornado with artillery fit on station undock in highsec near Amarr. One shot (glancing blow) and my entire shield, entire armor, and half my hull was gone, but I escaped due to his long reload, and he was destroyed by CONCORD plus some other dude in a Legion who joined in.
Did you have an insta-undock for that station?
On another note... I wonder if I should be building thrashers and small artillery now. |
Dornier Pfeil
Citadel Defenders
27
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Posted - 2017.01.18 20:14:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Just sitting off of most, sometimes every gate of every highsec system I jump into? Do gankers use Thrashers? What does CODE. use? I was under the impression that Thrashers are preferred at gates because they tank against the gate guns better than Catalysts, giving you fractionally more time. Not that you need much time against a shuttle or rookie ship.
True/False? |
Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
610
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Posted - 2017.01.18 20:17:30 -
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For ganking shuttle and pods, you just pick it for the Alpha dmg. |
Aaaarrgg
The Conference Elite CODE.
26
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Posted - 2017.01.18 20:25:21 -
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On another note... I wonder if I should be building thrashers and small artillery now.[/quote]
Yes please :)
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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2017.01.19 01:23:25 -
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Ahhh, the Force of Nature cometh and seeth fit to grace us with his presence. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8192
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Posted - 2017.01.19 05:31:22 -
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AG use them too
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1372
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Posted - 2017.01.19 12:41:07 -
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FIght cancer with cancer and bring out the garmur and svipul.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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ST0NER SMURF
Vrix Nation CODE.
231
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Posted - 2017.01.19 16:09:42 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:AG use them too
only to kmwhore and loot cheap blue wrecks ;o they dont even fit 7 guns
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