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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.18 12:14:49 -
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wouldnt it be nice to have a blueprint case with capacity something like 2m3? basicly like a small container just smaller.
it would make organising BPOs and specialy BPCs in sets alot better managable. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2017.01.18 13:16:04 -
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... what's wrong with the already existing containers
BLOPS Hauler
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5191
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Posted - 2017.01.18 18:31:49 -
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How will it make it any easier than using cans like we do now? |
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.19 01:06:46 -
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the problem with existing containers is they are still too large for BPOs/BPCs
120m3 = 12000 blueprints
now imagine you want to get 10 build sets for different things and you dont want to bpcs to get mixed.... now you have to fly an industrial to cary the 1000m3 the small containers take up. also you cant load small containers on a freighter.. so you would have to use 10000m3 cans for blueprints..... or you can just mix them in and spend the next hour spliting the stacks when you get then to your destinatin.
and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D |
Shu t'Me
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Posted - 2017.01.19 04:22:28 -
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I support this idea.
Having all your bookmarks in an readily identifiable container makes things so much easier when you're moving them and I cargo scan you. Doesn't matter if you've got anything in it, either. My cargo scan may have just missed it. |
Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.19 08:30:12 -
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Ji7 Aldard wrote: and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D
Hah, well, it will never be an unpayed job.
In some form or another (time to get isk for plex, or cash to sub the account), you're paying CCP for your job. |
Vendo Carllsmann
AcT Legion Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.19 16:58:22 -
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It's especially annoying when you have a load of BPCs for a particular item and they won't stack. I get it that stacking BPCs which have different research values or remaining runs would not be a good idea but if you have, say, 50 fully researched 10 run Caracal BPCs they should stack. |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5195
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Posted - 2017.01.19 18:39:23 -
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Ji7 Aldard wrote:the problem with existing containers is they are still too large for BPOs/BPCs
120m3 = 12000 blueprints
now imagine you want to get 10 build sets for different things and you dont want to bpcs to get mixed.... now you have to fly an industrial to cary the 1000m3 the small containers take up. also you cant load small containers on a freighter.. so you would have to use 10000m3 cans for blueprints..... or you can just mix them in and spend the next hour spliting the stacks when you get then to your destinatin.
and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D
I don't understand the problem. How is it possible for a can to be too big, unless you're trying to haul huge numbers of blueprints in an interceptor?
And...I don't own a freighter, why can't you use small cans in one? (Personally, I move mine in a DST or a blockade runner. 1000m3 is not a big ask for anyone with halfway decent industrial skills.) |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3533
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Posted - 2017.01.19 18:52:48 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Ji7 Aldard wrote:the problem with existing containers is they are still too large for BPOs/BPCs
120m3 = 12000 blueprints
now imagine you want to get 10 build sets for different things and you dont want to bpcs to get mixed.... now you have to fly an industrial to cary the 1000m3 the small containers take up. also you cant load small containers on a freighter.. so you would have to use 10000m3 cans for blueprints..... or you can just mix them in and spend the next hour spliting the stacks when you get then to your destinatin.
and TBH... I play to have fun and not bo be sorting documents... I get enough of that at work. and as many still not understand, this is a game not a second unpayed job :D I don't understand the problem. How is it possible for a can to be too big, unless you're trying to haul huge numbers of blueprints in an interceptor? And...I don't own a freighter, why can't you use small cans in one? (Personally, I move mine in a DST or a blockade runner. 1000m3 is not a big ask for anyone with halfway decent industrial skills.)
i'm just as confused as you. having had to handle large numbers of alliance level bops and bpc through several large moves i have never had an issue
BLOPS Hauler
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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.19 19:56:47 -
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Danika Princip wrote: I don't understand the problem. How is it possible for a can to be too big, unless you're trying to haul huge numbers of blueprints in an interceptor?
And...I don't own a freighter, why can't you use small cans in one? (Personally, I move mine in a DST or a blockade runner. 1000m3 is not a big ask for anyone with halfway decent industrial skills.)
yes that is exactly the problem.. I dont want to fly an industrial just to be able to keep the BPC sets separated in a 120m3 cans with 119m3 left in each of them.
Im able to move 1000 bpcs with a frig why should I switch to an industrial just so I can keep them organised? and if you dont understand this then you are a masochist or something. also what takes few minutes in a frig takes half an hour even in the most agile industrials... in RL you also dont take a truck to move 10x10 pages of paper.
you cant use small cans in a freighter because CCP says so. |
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3021
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Posted - 2017.01.19 20:05:19 -
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I agree. 100m3 is not small enough to be the smallest container. Often I have wished that my everything-frigate could hold a container without it taking up more than half of the cargohold space. And yes, I still fly frigates (when I fly at all).
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn Singularity Syndicate
2111
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Posted - 2017.01.19 22:01:12 -
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I'm also confused here. You are saying you want to sort bpc/o's into seperate cans and then carry a multitude of cans? Just put them in one can then sort them at the other end. It's the same amount of work so just do it at the other end and use the search filter to sort the bpo/c's.
If anything carrying a small can is screaming at anyone scanning your cargo 'THIS COULD BE EXPENSIVE!'... |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3021
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Posted - 2017.01.19 22:45:01 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:I'm also confused here. You are saying you want to sort bpc/o's into seperate cans and then carry a multitude of cans?
If anything carrying a small can is screaming at anyone scanning your cargo 'THIS COULD BE EXPENSIVE!'... I think he's saying he wants to carry just one can, but maybe he wants to carry other items with the remaining cargo space.
If smaller (say 10m3) cans were available, I would put them into probably most of my frigates and destroyers. While I would sometimes use them for shipping and storing BPCs, probably what I would be more inclined to use them for is either small ammo or salvage. Getting one of my cheap frigates ganked over having the can is just icing on top.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3535
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Posted - 2017.01.19 22:57:59 -
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why bother with a can for that fitters work much better for things like ammo and salvage
BLOPS Hauler
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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.19 23:05:42 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:I'm also confused here. You are saying you want to sort bpc/o's into seperate cans and then carry a multitude of cans? Just put them in one can then sort them at the other end. It's the same amount of work so just do it at the other end and use the search filter to sort the bpo/c's.
If anything carrying a small can is screaming at anyone scanning your cargo 'THIS COULD BE EXPENSIVE!'...
the thing is when I have things already sorted at the start I dont want to mix them all in and then spend time to split them again. mostly Im not the one sorting them to begin with so sorting them at my destination is not an valid option. |
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
13
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Posted - 2017.01.19 23:07:55 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why bother with a can for that fitters work much better for things like ammo and salvage
I would like to see a filter that works for spliting 10 Azbel build sets :) good luck with that. |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5196
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Posted - 2017.01.19 23:21:19 -
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Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor? |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
3021
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Posted - 2017.01.20 00:32:37 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor? What does risk-free intercepter-hauling have to do with this proposal? He's not proposing affecting the risk of hauling in an interceptor, he is talking about arranging objects in frigate cargoholds.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Shu t'Me
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Posted - 2017.01.20 02:01:58 -
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Ji7 Aldard wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why bother with a can for that fitters work much better for things like ammo and salvage I would like to see a filter that works for spliting 10 Azbel build sets :) good luck with that. Filter by name, containing part 1 filter by name, containing part 2 filter by name, containing part 3 etc.
Then just pick however many parts you need out of the resulting filtered list.
Yeah, I know it's rocket surgery, but it does work. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5189
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Posted - 2017.01.20 08:10:11 -
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I really don't see any downside to this suggestion. Question: Would you be able to password-protect or otherwise lock these cases like standard containers, deploy them in space, etc.?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.20 08:50:25 -
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Shu t'Me wrote:
Then just pick however many parts you need out of the resulting filtered list.
Yeah, I know it's rocket surgery, but it does work.
Briliant! now try doing this for 10 times for for each build set each of them containing 20+ bpcs. so your method only requires to set filters 199 times... lol
like I wrote before... you must me a masochist to do this and not try to find a better way. |
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
14
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Posted - 2017.01.20 08:54:35 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor? What does risk-free intercepter-hauling have to do with this proposal? He's not proposing affecting the risk of hauling in an interceptor, he is talking about arranging objects in frigate cargoholds.
see... this guy knows what Im talking about. thx
the risk is the same as with hauling all the bpos directly in the cargohold. its just the simple fact of having them organised. oh and a downside? probably like 200 units of trit required to build the cases. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3537
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:03:14 -
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Ji7 Aldard wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor? What does risk-free intercepter-hauling have to do with this proposal? He's not proposing affecting the risk of hauling in an interceptor, he is talking about arranging objects in frigate cargoholds. see... this guy knows what Im talking about. thx the risk is the same as with hauling all the bpos directly in the cargohold. its just the simple fact of having them organised. oh and a downside? probably like 200 units of trit required to build the cases.
except the reward is now higher as it gains you connivance
BLOPS Hauler
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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:09:04 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
except the reward is now higher as it gains you connivance
OK... lets do it your way... lets make the game as miserable as we can.. from now on how about we controll all the modules on the ship thu a command line.
dude stop for a while and think of what you are trying to achieve here.
p.s.: by the time we are discussing this simple modification that doesnt realy affect the game mechanics just adds connivance... a programer would have the change done two times over... including a coffe break |
Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
14
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:15:35 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I really don't see any downside to this suggestion. Question: Would you be able to password-protect or otherwise lock these cases like standard containers, deploy them in space, etc.?
I havent realy thought about this but its just a case not a vault so I would say no protection what so ever... if you realy want to lock the content then use the existing secure container. my proposal is simply about being able to organise not make safer. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3537
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:15:44 -
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except it doesn't really make the game all that easier. You make it sound like BP organization is this huge nightmare headache. its not.
BLOPS Hauler
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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:20:43 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:except it doesn't really make the game all that easier. You make it sound like BP organization is this huge nightmare headache. its not.
I always love it when people with theyre 100 bpos say this ^^ so cute...
also you obviously dont know anythihng about OCD :D |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3537
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:24:38 -
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O.o i have several thousand BPOs and BPCs just in the alliance HQ station
you mental issues are no ones concerns but your own
BLOPS Hauler
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Ji7 Aldard
Shield Nation Limited Expectations
14
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Posted - 2017.01.20 09:51:46 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:O.o i have several thousand BPOs and BPCs just in the alliance HQ station
ah.. now I can see why you have no idea about what Im talking about :) you cant understand this when you have your few BPs hidden in your station. Im sorry.
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:you mental issues are no ones concerns but your own
how ruthless of you... nobody loves me... lol |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5196
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Posted - 2017.01.20 17:48:10 -
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Ji7 Aldard wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Would you like there to be even one single tradeoff to your utterly risk free blueprint hauling taxiceptor? What does risk-free intercepter-hauling have to do with this proposal? He's not proposing affecting the risk of hauling in an interceptor, he is talking about arranging objects in frigate cargoholds. see... this guy knows what Im talking about. thx the risk is the same as with hauling all the bpos directly in the cargohold. its just the simple fact of having them organised. oh and a downside? probably like 200 units of trit required to build the cases.
I'm of the opinion that the invulnerable taxiceptor needs to be nerfed into the ground, not buffed even in minor ways like this.
Hard lock a 2.01 second align time minimum, and make that seriously hard to achieve. Then you can have your case. |
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