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ReaperAussie Lennelluc
Quantum Nemesis
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Posted - 2017.01.31 04:42:30 -
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There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7 |
Mobadder Thworst
Legion of the Wicked Way Home Defense Union
1213
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Posted - 2017.01.31 05:01:06 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7
Please upgrade your troll related modules to at least meta 4 before posting again.
This troll build is not competitive. |
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
308
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Posted - 2017.01.31 06:48:35 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7
Last I checked, EVE is a pvp game which can encompass being ganked, scammed, ransomed and even taking steps to make oneself an unappealing target while mining.
Oh as for "mining is free", heard of opportunity costs? |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3739
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Posted - 2017.01.31 07:04:17 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7 1/10 poor effort
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Luthor Ikkala
Skullwing productions Home Defense Union
7
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Posted - 2017.01.31 07:23:22 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7
Thats just part of the game! And a part that makes this game as good as it is. I like the idea that youre not sade anywhere. It makes you think what to fly and how to fit it! |
Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
31
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Posted - 2017.01.31 07:36:58 -
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Dunno how can you veterans still click on these threads. I just arrived, but already bored with it's countless iterations.
Ok, I admit, some fellows post 'em in a more amusing way.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3739
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Posted - 2017.01.31 08:01:05 -
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Yebo Lakatosh wrote:Dunno how can you veterans still click on these threads. I just arrived, but already bored with it's countless iterations.
Ok, I admit, some fellows post 'em in a more amusing way. Because occasionally you get a fun one
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
276
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Posted - 2017.01.31 11:48:24 -
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Avaelica Kuershin wrote: Oh as for "mining is free", heard of opportunity costs?
Uhm, Alpha Clones.......seems very "Free" to me.
and besides, your "oppurtunity costs" when it comes to Omega's has no bearing on the Fact...Mining is Free to do if you want to do it. Your mining not station trading. |
Hipqo
Tyde8
161
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Posted - 2017.01.31 11:53:03 -
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Nodoby is stopping you from either wardeccing them or joining people who wardec them. Thats your choices tbh...
A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3739
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Posted - 2017.01.31 11:53:56 -
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Max Deveron wrote:Avaelica Kuershin wrote: Oh as for "mining is free", heard of opportunity costs?
Uhm, Alpha Clones.......seems very "Free" to me. and besides, your "oppurtunity costs" when it comes to Omega's has no bearing on the Fact...Mining is Free to do if you want to do it. Your mining not station trading. Nothing is ever free
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
1834
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Posted - 2017.01.31 14:10:16 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be. Uh, I have bad news for you: This is only one of the "lesser evils" of EVE. Most alliances donGÇÖt just extort some ISK from others, they right out destroy anyone they are not allied with whenever there happens to be an opportunity to do so. Sometimes because they want your space, business or mining grounds, sometimes just for fun and to see things explode. Spying, betrayal, awoxing, backstabbing longtime allies and corporation theft are quite common too, this is EVE.
ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine. Maybe they should be stopped, maybe not.. but donGÇÖt hope CCP will do anything about it. If you want anyone to be stopped in EVE you have to find likeminded players and do the stopping yourself.
ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining. If you are not trolling you may have no idea how often this comes up on the forums. And you are right; mining does not NEED to be dangerous at all. But CCP made it dangerous by design and not by accident, so it is safe to assume that mining is not meant to be completely risk free. In EVE everything is at risk: Risk of being blown up, risk of being undercut by competitors and in risk of being extorted for some ISK. But you can minimize your risk in highsec by flying the right fits, some situational awareness and a good corp. CODE.and co only go for the most obvious targets around, you are save just by not being among the least clever miners. |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
1298
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Posted - 2017.01.31 14:50:56 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker co Nitshe? Dat you? |
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2017.01.31 15:55:40 -
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Yeah this is a pretty bad one.
I recently had the opportunity to log back into the game, and actually chat with CODE, and all things being equal they seem like some pretty cool people to talk to. Which makes it all the more sad that they keep posting crap like this. You guys are better than these fake troll accounts, and same stories every day. |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2017.01.31 16:37:33 -
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See below
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
637
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Posted - 2017.01.31 16:45:55 -
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See above |
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
590
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Posted - 2017.01.31 18:39:16 -
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Actually, the OP is not a troll.
He just figured out yesterday that my wardec on his corporation is a rather large inconvenience.
I've offered to drop the war in exchange for the purchase of permits for the entire corporation and a promise to follow The Code but apparently he has "principles" so he'd rather do things the hard way. Its a crisis of corp leadership I tell you!
Feel free to adjust your remarks to the fact that he means what he says.
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Mobadder Thworst
Legion of the Wicked Way Home Defense Union
1219
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:29:50 -
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Having recalibrate my jaw at Bing's revelation to the court, allow me to share some CODE neutral observations. I'm not CODE and I actually enjoy trying to catch them when they turn red (but I shoot at just about anything that turns red or yellow).
I think I did the math once and figured out that a miner can pull about 200kisk of veldspar in a minute in a covetor.
Therefore, the 10mil license equates to about 50 minutes of lost mining time... which without even considering ship values would be lost in the opening day of a war very rapidly and easily. For that to be a year long license... I'd do it.
If I ran a mining corp, I would absolutely be CODE compliant. It's cheap insurance.
I would apply the same logic to extortionists, but I would negotiate for "protection" in the extortion payment. Both sides win and it keeps extortionists from having buddies war dec you for cash or war dec you again for cash.
If mining is your thing, you will interact with the pvp crowd. It is better to choose how and do so in a controlled fashion, IMO. Mo
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3740
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:45:21 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:Actually, the OP is not a troll.
He just figured out yesterday that my wardec on his corporation is a rather large inconvenience.
I've offered to drop the war in exchange for the purchase of permits for the entire corporation and a promise to follow The Code but apparently he has "principles" so he'd rather do things the hard way. Its a crisis of corp leadership I tell you!
Feel free to adjust your remarks to the fact that he means what he says. In that case...
@OP Please for the love of Bob use the serch bar and type in 2 key words of your post and read a few before you make a new thread about the same stuff... Forum etiquette 101
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2017.01.31 21:09:14 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Having recalibrate my jaw at Bing's revelation to the court, allow me to share some CODE neutral observations. I'm not CODE and I actually enjoy trying to catch them when they turn red (but I shoot at just about anything that turns red or yellow).
I think I did the math once and figured out that a miner can pull about 200kisk of veldspar in a minute in a covetor.
Therefore, the 10mil license equates to about 50 minutes of lost mining time... which without even considering ship values would be lost in the opening day of a war very rapidly and easily. For that to be a year long license... I'd do it.
If I ran a mining corp, I would absolutely be CODE compliant. It's cheap insurance.
I would apply the same logic to extortionists, but I would negotiate for "protection" in the extortion payment. Both sides win and it keeps extortionists from having buddies war dec you for cash or war dec you again for cash.
If mining is your thing, you will interact with the pvp crowd. It is better to choose how and do so in a controlled fashion, IMO. Mo
There is no such thing as "gank insurance". I feel you probably know that. |
Mobadder Thworst
Legion of the Wicked Way Home Defense Union
1219
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Posted - 2017.01.31 21:15:25 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:Mobadder Thworst wrote:Having recalibrate my jaw at Bing's revelation to the court, allow me to share some CODE neutral observations. I'm not CODE and I actually enjoy trying to catch them when they turn red (but I shoot at just about anything that turns red or yellow).
I think I did the math once and figured out that a miner can pull about 200kisk of veldspar in a minute in a covetor.
Therefore, the 10mil license equates to about 50 minutes of lost mining time... which without even considering ship values would be lost in the opening day of a war very rapidly and easily. For that to be a year long license... I'd do it.
If I ran a mining corp, I would absolutely be CODE compliant. It's cheap insurance.
I would apply the same logic to extortionists, but I would negotiate for "protection" in the extortion payment. Both sides win and it keeps extortionists from having buddies war dec you for cash or war dec you again for cash.
If mining is your thing, you will interact with the pvp crowd. It is better to choose how and do so in a controlled fashion, IMO. Mo
There is no such thing as "gank insurance". I feel you probably know that.
I'm just expressing my opinion. Even if the probability goes down, it's worth 10 mil.
I'm not a miner, but I've done quite a bit of extortion. It doesn't take long for a relationship to build. Relationships typically end the predator/prey relationship in my opinion.
If I was a miner, id consider it.
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2017.01.31 21:26:06 -
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Look. As I said before, I have logged in and chatted with the CODE folks. I find nothing wrong with them on a personal level. And I play Eve so little that their actions in game don't really have any effect on me there either. But at the end of the day... We all know that the whole "Make Hi-Sec great again" schtick is just RP. CODE is not out to make EVE better, not really.
They're there to have fun. Their fun in this instance is annoying people, and suicide ganking. It really, truly is that simple.
Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked. Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked.
Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
Just like someone who wants to steal your car, break into your home, or kill you... If somebody wants to interact with you in this game in a violent fashion, then they will figure out a way to do it. You will lose your ship. You quite likely will lose your pod as well. You cannot prevent this by word, deed, creed, allegiance, ISK/hour, territory conquered, DDOS, TiDi, Russians, WiS, monocle, or any in game mechanic.
All you can do is account for it. Plan for it. Adjust yourself emotionally and mentally for it. Have fun with it. Expect it. Laugh about it. Learn from it. Re-ship yourself and carry on.
Don't pay money to not be blown up to people known to smile at blowing up things. Dont jump into TeamSpeak with people known to record their attempts to spin you up and post it online. Dont be AFK.
And relax. It's a game. |
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2017.01.31 21:31:02 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:Actually, the OP is not a troll.
He just figured out yesterday that my wardec on his corporation is a rather large inconvenience.
I've offered to drop the war in exchange for the purchase of permits for the entire corporation and a promise to follow The Code but apparently he has "principles" so he'd rather do things the hard way. Its a crisis of corp leadership I tell you!
Feel free to adjust your remarks to the fact that he means what he says.
Going to disagree with you, Bing. OP gives themselves away as CODE by capitalizing "Permit". That's the trouble with pulling double RP duty. Personas get crossed. |
Areen Sassel
169
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Posted - 2017.01.31 21:53:49 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:Just like someone who wants to steal your car, break into your home, or kill you... If somebody wants to interact with you in this game in a violent fashion, then they will figure out a way to do it. You will lose your ship. You quite likely will lose your pod as well. You cannot prevent this by word, deed, creed, allegiance, ISK/hour, territory conquered, DDOS, TiDi, Russians, WiS, monocle, or any in game mechanic. Other than D-scan and watching Local (part of Code compliance, most of which is good advice whether you like them or not.)
Quote:Going to disagree with you, Bing. OP gives themselves away as CODE by capitalizing "Permit". OP capitalises most of their nouns, a common mistake. |
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
591
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Posted - 2017.01.31 22:11:24 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:Look. As I said before, I have logged in and chatted with the CODE folks. I find nothing wrong with them on a personal level. And I play Eve so little that their actions in game don't really have any effect on me there either. But at the end of the day... We all know that the whole "Make Hi-Sec great again" schtick is just RP. CODE is not out to make EVE better, not really.
They're there to have fun. Their fun in this instance is annoying people, and suicide ganking. It really, truly is that simple.
Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked. Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked.
Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
Just like someone who wants to steal your car, break into your home, or kill you... If somebody wants to interact with you in this game in a violent fashion, then they will figure out a way to do it. You will lose your ship. You quite likely will lose your pod as well. You cannot prevent this by word, deed, creed, allegiance, ISK/hour, territory conquered, DDOS, TiDi, Russians, WiS, monocle, or any in game mechanic.
All you can do is account for it. Plan for it. Adjust yourself emotionally and mentally for it. Have fun with it. Expect it. Laugh about it. Learn from it. Re-ship yourself and carry on.
Don't pay money to not be blown up to people known to smile at blowing up things. Dont jump into TeamSpeak with people known to record their attempts to spin you up and post it online. Dont be AFK.
And relax. It's a game.
In other words, "CODE. always wins".
Could have save a lot of typing if you started (and ended) with that.
Now, I don't care if you want to believe the OP is a troll but a simple look at zkillboard will show that I'm at war with his corporation. Of course, it could all be an elaborate hoax to create authenticity for a forum post that a couple hundred people at most are going to read... THAT'S DEDICATION!
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2017.01.31 22:35:12 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote:Look. As I said before, I have logged in and chatted with the CODE folks. I find nothing wrong with them on a personal level. And I play Eve so little that their actions in game don't really have any effect on me there either. But at the end of the day... We all know that the whole "Make Hi-Sec great again" schtick is just RP. CODE is not out to make EVE better, not really.
They're there to have fun. Their fun in this instance is annoying people, and suicide ganking. It really, truly is that simple.
Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked. Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked.
Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
Just like someone who wants to steal your car, break into your home, or kill you... If somebody wants to interact with you in this game in a violent fashion, then they will figure out a way to do it. You will lose your ship. You quite likely will lose your pod as well. You cannot prevent this by word, deed, creed, allegiance, ISK/hour, territory conquered, DDOS, TiDi, Russians, WiS, monocle, or any in game mechanic.
All you can do is account for it. Plan for it. Adjust yourself emotionally and mentally for it. Have fun with it. Expect it. Laugh about it. Learn from it. Re-ship yourself and carry on.
Don't pay money to not be blown up to people known to smile at blowing up things. Dont jump into TeamSpeak with people known to record their attempts to spin you up and post it online. Dont be AFK.
And relax. It's a game. In other words, "CODE. always wins". Could have saved a lot of typing if you started (and ended) with that. Now, I don't care if you want to believe the OP is a troll but a simple look at zkillboard will show that I'm at war with his corporation. Of course, it could all be an elaborate hoax to create authenticity for a forum post that a couple hundred people at most are going to read... THAT'S DEDICATION!
In other words, "I agree".
Could have saved a lot of typing if you started (and ended) with that.
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
869
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Posted - 2017.02.01 13:46:49 -
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This thread delivers OP, welcome to EVE also, HTFU
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Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
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Max Trix Shall Reign!
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virm pasuul
The Congregation No Handlebars.
417
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Posted - 2017.02.01 15:28:53 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote:
Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked. Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked.
Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
Not true at all. Having a permit and being code compliant makes a huge difference. One thing missing from your list that may explain your problem: Having a good attitude. CODE is a litmus test, a bad attitude is an automatic fail of the test. |
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2017.02.01 15:53:12 -
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virm pasuul wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote:
Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked. Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked.
Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
Not true at all. Having a permit and being code compliant makes a huge difference. One thing missing from your list that may explain your problem: Having a good attitude. CODE is a litmus test, a bad attitude is an automatic fail of the test.
I like your interaction. A few items though:
It's not "my" problem... I stated earlier back that I had yet to dabble in playing EVE seriously, and that logging in and chatting with CODE was an agreeable experience. So... I have no problems.
And no friend... I don't believe CODE permission nor compliance affects someones decision to gank you one way or the other. The document in question was (obviously) written such that "compliance" is (obviously) in the eye of the ganker/beholder, and can be revoked for any and every reason.
I haven't any reason to fault CODEs pilots for playing their way, and they're obviously intelligent people. But really... the RP rhetoric is wasted on me my friend. |
Vito Molari
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2017.02.01 16:08:57 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote: And no friend... I don't believe CODE permission nor compliance affects someones decision to gank you one way or the other.
You are incorrect in your beliefs on this. It has a very significant impact on enforcement action selections. Compliance, a permit, and a good attitude will go a long way towards an enjoyable experience with CODE agents who do an often thankless job for the greater good in a very professional manner.
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2017.02.01 16:23:45 -
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Vito Molari wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote: And no friend... I don't believe CODE permission nor compliance affects someones decision to gank you one way or the other.
You are incorrect in your beliefs on this. It has a very significant impact on enforcement action selections. Compliance, a permit, and a good attitude will go a long way towards an enjoyable experience with CODE agents who do an often thankless job for the greater good in a very professional manner.
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2017.02.01 17:40:58 -
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SEE below...
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
599
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Posted - 2017.02.01 18:13:44 -
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In an exciting but not surprising update to the original post, rejoicing has broken out across all of highsec as the OP, last night, purchased mining permits for his entire corporation and has pledged his support for Jame 315, the Savior of Highsec, and the New Order.
It only took four days for him to realize the overwhelming reasonableness, logic and virtue (and firepower) of the Code and its humble Agents.
A quick look at his bio will show the permit and his support in our ongoing war to wipe out botting and bot aspirancy across all of highsec. His rapid progression from being a bot aspirant to being a good highsec citizen should be an inspiration to everyone, including and especially those nay-sayers in this thread.
Victory to the New Order of Highsec!!
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27461
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Posted - 2017.02.01 20:55:38 -
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Clockwork Robot wrote: Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked.
True enough, if CODE. don't gank you, someone else might.
Quote:Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Some forms of compliance give you an advantage over non compliant miners, they're more likely to die because the complaint miner is either absent by the time the gankers turn up, or in a ship that packs more tank than the other potential targets available.
Quote:Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. It makes you a less desirable kill, killing a Skiff, or a Procurer, is often not a worthy investment of man hours when there's multiple Retrievers, Mackinaws, Hulks and Coveters to kill (why do people still use the latter two solo?).
Quote:Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked. Finding bodyguards to hire is the major pitfall of this approach, there's only one thing more boring than mining, and that's guarding miners. On the other hand, a ball of Skiffs and Procurers with drones out will make 99.999% of all gankers think twice and look elsewhere for their next target.
Quote:Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
The trick is to make the ganker decide not to gank you.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
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virm pasuul
The Congregation No Handlebars.
418
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Posted - 2017.02.01 21:08:00 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:In an exciting but not surprising update to the original post, rejoicing has broken out across all of highsec as the OP, last night, purchased mining permits for his entire corporation and has pledged his support for James 315, the Savior of Highsec, and the New Order.
It only took four days for him to realize the overwhelming reasonableness, logic and virtue (and firepower) of the Code and its humble Agents.
A quick look at his bio will show the permit and his support in our ongoing war to wipe out botting and bot aspirancy across all of highsec. His rapid progression from being a bot aspirant to being a good highsec citizen should be an inspiration to everyone, including and especially those nay-sayers in this thread.
Victory to the New Order of Highsec!!
CODE always wins, always. |
Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2017.02.01 22:18:02 -
[35] - Quote
Bing Bangboom wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote:Look. As I said before, I have logged in and chatted with the CODE folks. I find nothing wrong with them on a personal level. And I play Eve so little that their actions in game don't really have any effect on me there either. But at the end of the day... We all know that the whole "Make Hi-Sec great again" schtick is just RP. CODE is not out to make EVE better, not really.
They're there to have fun. Their fun in this instance is annoying people, and suicide ganking. It really, truly is that simple.
Buying a permit does not protect you from being ganked. Being "compliant" does not protect you from being ganked. Tanking your skiff does not protect you from being ganked. Hiring bodyguards does not protect you from being ganked.
Nothing prevents a gank that the ganker has decided will happen. Nothing.
Just like someone who wants to steal your car, break into your home, or kill you... If somebody wants to interact with you in this game in a violent fashion, then they will figure out a way to do it. You will lose your ship. You quite likely will lose your pod as well. You cannot prevent this by word, deed, creed, allegiance, ISK/hour, territory conquered, DDOS, TiDi, Russians, WiS, monocle, or any in game mechanic.
All you can do is account for it. Plan for it. Adjust yourself emotionally and mentally for it. Have fun with it. Expect it. Laugh about it. Learn from it. Re-ship yourself and carry on.
Don't pay money to not be blown up to people known to smile at blowing up things. Dont jump into TeamSpeak with people known to record their attempts to spin you up and post it online. Dont be AFK.
And relax. It's a game. In other words, "James315 always wins". Could have saved a lot of typing if you started (and ended) with that. Now, I don't care if you want to believe the OP is a troll but a simple look at zkillboard will show that I'm at war with his corporation. Of course, it could all be an elaborate hoax to create authenticity for a forum post that a couple hundred people at most are going to read... THAT'S DEDICATION!
I fixed that for you.
Historically cult leaders have always viewed their adherents with contempt and I see no reason why James315 should be any different.
So Bing Bangboom you gave James315 2 billion isk this month. He must be laughing his socks off.
Tbh I'm laughing my socks off too
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
869
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Posted - 2017.02.01 22:56:31 -
[36] - Quote
oh Zaza, when will you learn that you'll never win the argument everything has already been said.. Praise James!
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2017.02.01 23:39:53 -
[37] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:oh Zaza, when will you learn that you'll never win the argument everything has already been said.. Praise James!
ahhhh it's Dom 'deluded' Arkaral
I laugh at you most of all |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2017.02.02 00:32:47 -
[38] - Quote
See below
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
869
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Posted - 2017.02.02 03:20:02 -
[39] - Quote
if that makes you happy lmao
you seek to find some comfort in trying to insult people, that makes me sad for you RP is too much for you to handle apparently
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope Gallente Federation
2090
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Posted - 2017.02.02 05:34:12 -
[40] - Quote
I was worried that C&P had changed in my time gone. This thread makes me feel right at home.
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2017.02.02 06:00:04 -
[41] - Quote
I like Dom, Zaha. Log in and chat with him. Youll enjoy things a bit more. |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
436
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Posted - 2017.02.02 15:44:06 -
[42] - Quote
Like many other ways of living reasonably safely in Highsec, the purchase of a Permit is a no-brainer. You won't be ganked by the New Order - if you remain Code-compliant - and you may considerably lower your risk of being ganked by others if you follow the advice given out by many of my comrades-in-arms.
It staggers me that, no matter how much information and how many tools CCP and others provide, some citizens of Highsec just refuse to take any of it on board. And these are typically the folks who shout the loudest when the inevitable happens.
Despite the old NPE being a sort of 'Extreme Vetting' process, they still got through, but I think we all did it, because it was all there was! Now it's easier, and I suspect many of the Isk-grinding rabble will simply ignore most of it because there are plenty of guides out there about how to maximise your AFK-mining skills while being completely oblivious to the rest of the game.
Such people always remind me of race horses wearing blinkers (Am. blinders), except that race horses have a nobility about their bearing which is entirely absent from that of the Highsec miner. |
Dom Arkaral
Axios
874
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Posted - 2017.02.02 15:56:58 -
[43] - Quote
Clockwork Robot wrote:I like Dom, Zaha. Log in and chat with him. Youll enjoy things a bit more. I don't bite :P And I'm nice when people don't try to insult me lol
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Minittor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.02.02 18:34:43 -
[44] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Like many other ways of living reasonably safely in Highsec, the purchase of a Permit is a no-brainer. You won't be ganked by the New Order - if you remain Code-compliant - and you may considerably lower your risk of being ganked by others if you follow the advice given out by many of my comrades-in-arms.
It staggers me that, no matter how much information and how many tools CCP and others provide, some citizens of Highsec just refuse to take any of it on board. And these are typically the folks who shout the loudest when the inevitable happens.
I don't mine or gank them, so I have no dog it this fight. However, it seems to me that a measured response could be to re-balance the defensive capability of mining ships.
Allow miners to fly ships that up the cost for suicide ganking to a significant ratio of the cost of the mining ship. This would mean mining capability is sacrificed of course. Maybe this ends up costing more than the protection money. That should be an option in the game imo. |
Dom Arkaral
Axios
878
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Posted - 2017.02.02 18:36:49 -
[45] - Quote
Minittor wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Like many other ways of living reasonably safely in Highsec, the purchase of a Permit is a no-brainer. You won't be ganked by the New Order - if you remain Code-compliant - and you may considerably lower your risk of being ganked by others if you follow the advice given out by many of my comrades-in-arms.
It staggers me that, no matter how much information and how many tools CCP and others provide, some citizens of Highsec just refuse to take any of it on board. And these are typically the folks who shout the loudest when the inevitable happens. I don't mine or gank them, so I have no dog it this fight. However, it seems to me that a measured response could be to re-balance the defensive capability of mining ships. Allow miners to fly ships that up the cost for suicide ganking to a significant ratio of the cost of the mining ship. This would mean mining capability is sacrificed of course. Maybe this ends up costing more than the protection money. That should be an option in the game imo. Just another mining buff (tm)
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Areen Sassel
170
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Posted - 2017.02.02 18:39:55 -
[46] - Quote
Minittor wrote:I don't mine or gank them, so I have no dog it this fight. However, it seems to me that a measured response could be to re-balance the defensive capability of mining ships. Allow miners to fly ships that up the cost for suicide ganking to a significant ratio of the cost of the mining ship. This would mean mining capability is sacrificed of course.
By a happy coincidence this has already been done in the form of the Procurer and Skiff. |
Minittor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.02.02 18:53:19 -
[47] - Quote
For interest sake, how are these ships working out? |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
438
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Posted - 2017.02.02 20:07:35 -
[48] - Quote
Minittor wrote: it seems to me that a measured response could be to re-balance the defensive capability of mining ships.
Allow miners to fly ships that up the cost for suicide ganking to a significant ratio of the cost of the mining ship. This would mean mining capability is sacrificed of course. Maybe this ends up costing more than the protection money. That should be an option in the game imo.
Minittor, it isn't the game or its mechanics that need to change; it's the bloody miners.
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Minittor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.02.02 20:28:38 -
[49] - Quote
Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother? |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3757
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Posted - 2017.02.02 20:30:21 -
[50] - Quote
Minittor wrote:Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother? But what about the dank ticks?
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Minittor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.02.02 20:35:01 -
[51] - Quote
Last message not understood... |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
438
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Posted - 2017.02.02 22:16:32 -
[52] - Quote
Minittor wrote:Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother?
You'd spend all that on a barge and forgo a measly 10 million for a Permit? That's Isk-grubbing miserliness right there, miner.
I know it's going to be difficult for you to understand, but I tell you that there will be more rejoicing in MinerBumping over one miner who repents than over 99 Code compliants who've no need of repentance.
It's not about the money, miner; it's about the Code.
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Minittor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.02.02 22:22:37 -
[53] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Minittor wrote:Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother? You'd spend all that on a barge and forgo a measly 10 million for a Permit? That's Isk-grubbing miserliness right there, miner. I know it's going to be difficult for you to understand, but I tell you that there will be more rejoicing in MinerBumping over one miner who repents than over 99 Code compliants who've no need of repentance. It's not about the money, miner; it's about the Code.
As I said I am not a miner. I note that you give a politician's answer... |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2089
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Posted - 2017.02.03 00:12:36 -
[54] - Quote
Sure you're not a miner.
They never are.
As for if anybody would gank it, for CODE cost isn't an issue.
They kill Skiffs routinely, you see.
There is a formula to determine how much DPS to bring to a hit, but that's Super Duper Top Secret.
The answer, tho, tends to be Lots.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Omar Alharazaad
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3224
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Posted - 2017.02.03 01:10:53 -
[55] - Quote
Minittor, the buffs are actually working fairly well. A tanked skiff or procurer is a freaking monster to deal with, the skiff in particular. I own one, but it surely doesn't have mining lasers on it.
Keep in mind that while the proc's dps are low, it still sports a tank comparable to some battleships at much lower cost.
A skiff is a whole other bag of worms. I've tried baiting one with an assault frigate before, and my poor enyo barely made it out in deep structure. I was a fiery ball of 'nope nope n0pe NOPE!' hurtling back to the station asap. In addition to a very respectable drone DPS they can mount insane tanks. Also, they tend to come in packs. Nothing like 15-25 bonused Hobgoblin II's swarming at your ship.
As Mike said, cost isn't the issue when it comes to CODE's actions.
They will bring what they need to get the job done. But, while we're on the topic of cost it's important to also keep in mind that cost does not equate tank, nor should it ever. I've dropped a billion isk cruiser before with an incursus worth maybe 13 million.
This kind of stuff happens all over the place. The price tag isn't a substitute for flying the ship in a safe manner.
I don't really have a dog in this fight either; I quit mining ages ago and I don't really enjoy messing with miners. I generally consider what they're doing to be living hell enough without me meddling. However, I am a big fan of flying safely and much of the butthurt that hits the forums is a direct result of people acting in an unsafe fashion and encountering consequences.
And no, sir, they do not like it. Not one bit. Of course the ensuing anger only encourages those who done did that thing to them.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2017.02.03 17:07:33 -
[56] - Quote
See below
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
440
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Posted - 2017.02.03 17:49:31 -
[57] - Quote
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:See below
My dear, if I could 'see below' I might better be able to judge whether the prize is worth such significant lingual investment.
I'm certainly able to judge that your contributions to the C&P sub-forum thus far have done nothing to persuade me that such investment would - on the whole - be worth the effort.
A forum of any sort usually exists for the exchange of ideas and opinions rather than bodily fluids. You might reflect on that and amend your behaviour accordingly.
Or, of course, you might not.
I never go to Jita.
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Luthor Ikkala
Skullwing productions Home Defense Union
8
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Posted - 2017.02.03 18:15:22 -
[58] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Minittor wrote:Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother? You'd spend all that on a barge and forgo a measly 10 million for a Permit? That's Isk-grubbing miserliness right there, miner. I know it's going to be difficult for you to understand, but I tell you that there will be more rejoicing in MinerBumping over one miner who repents than over 99 Code compliants who've no need of repentance. It's not about the money, miner; it's about the Code.
Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for |
Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
885
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Posted - 2017.02.03 18:43:08 -
[59] - Quote
Luthor Ikkala wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Minittor wrote:Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother? You'd spend all that on a barge and forgo a measly 10 million for a Permit? That's Isk-grubbing miserliness right there, miner. I know it's going to be difficult for you to understand, but I tell you that there will be more rejoicing in MinerBumping over one miner who repents than over 99 Code compliants who've no need of repentance. It's not about the money, miner; it's about the Code. Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for If you follow the Code, you can't die to gankers... Miners die because of themselves :P
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
3086
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Posted - 2017.02.03 18:47:13 -
[60] - Quote
Luthor Ikkala wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Minittor wrote:Ok so I can fit a Procurer to get about 64k ehp. with 5 scout drones giving 90 dps. How much what that cost to gank? Would you bother? You'd spend all that on a barge and forgo a measly 10 million for a Permit? That's Isk-grubbing miserliness right there, miner. I know it's going to be difficult for you to understand, but I tell you that there will be more rejoicing in MinerBumping over one miner who repents than over 99 Code compliants who've no need of repentance. It's not about the money, miner; it's about the Code. Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for That just shows how poor miners, and I guess humans more generally (when the miner is actually a human that is), are at judging risk. 10M ISK is a neglible amount of money for anyone but the greenest of pilots. Even if it has only a small percent chance of staving-off a black-swan event like the loss of a exhumer, a permit is worth it.
But they are right of course - a permit doesn't prevent future ganks. It is only part of the process of mining compliantly as outlined in the Code. I will assure you though that all permit holders get the benefit of the doubt from me because of the goodwill they are demonstrating by having a permit in thier bio and what that says about that miner's views on making highsec a better place. I will always attempt to engage them is conversation before I initiate an enforcement action and usually I am rewarded with some good natured banter with a like-minded player, an act of mercy I do not always offer unpermited miners. But if need be, and the permit holder is botting, AFK mining, not recognizing The Mittani as the rightful head of the CSM or is in violation of any other of the principles spelled out in the Code, I will reluctantly gank them. It is my sworn duty as an Agent of the Code and Knight of the New Order to do so.
You get more bees with honey, and miners who play along with the fun and get on board with the New Order and follow the Code are much less likely to suffer catastrophic and sudden disintegration of their mining equipment. But if you want to rebel, or claim that you are too "principled" to get a permit, well you will eventually become our content and be left impotently shaking your fist at us while we warp off with your hard earned loot and/or free flowing tears. Either way, the Code wins like it always does.
The 8 Golden Rules of Eve
Why Do They Gank?
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
445
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Posted - 2017.02.03 19:18:31 -
[61] - Quote
Luthor Ikkala wrote: Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for
I bought my Permit on my return to the game, last year, from Salah ad-Din Al-Jawahiri - and have not looked back since. I've never been ganked by a member of the New Order of Highsec (FacPo is a different story......).
I was so impressed that I urged my alts to sign up, and they haven't been ganked either. It's wonderful!
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2017.02.03 23:47:19 -
[62] - Quote
See below
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
887
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Posted - 2017.02.04 00:31:12 -
[63] - Quote
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:See below Ooohh so very original and on topic Lmao
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27463
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Posted - 2017.02.04 02:57:03 -
[64] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Hazel TuckerTS wrote:See below Ooohh so very original and on topic Lmao Could be worse, could be Veers.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
Feyd's Survival Pack
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3764
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Posted - 2017.02.04 04:05:19 -
[65] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Hazel TuckerTS wrote:See below Ooohh so very original and on topic Lmao Could be worse, could be Veers. I miss veers
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2856
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Posted - 2017.02.04 09:58:57 -
[66] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Luthor Ikkala wrote: Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for
I bought my Permit on my return to the game, last year, from Salah ad-Din Al-Jawahiri - and have not looked back since. I've never been ganked by a member of the New Order of Highsec (FacPo is a different story......). I was so impressed that I urged my alts to sign up, and they haven't been ganked either. It's wonderful!
A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that?
I noticed one chap who recently lost a freighter, he had brought his permit 30th January 2017 on the 31st he lost a Hulk and his pod to CODE followed up with a Charon and his pod with 8.8bn of stuff in it and then on 3rd he lost another Hulk and pod, and yet he is still showing his permit in his bio, I am sure on your logic he will think that permit is giving great value for money...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3767
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Posted - 2017.02.04 10:10:55 -
[67] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Luthor Ikkala wrote: Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for
I bought my Permit on my return to the game, last year, from Salah ad-Din Al-Jawahiri - and have not looked back since. I've never been ganked by a member of the New Order of Highsec (FacPo is a different story......). I was so impressed that I urged my alts to sign up, and they haven't been ganked either. It's wonderful! A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that? I noticed one chap who recently lost a freighter, he had brought his permit 30th January 2017 on the 31st he lost a Hulk and his pod to CODE followed up with a Charon and his pod with 8.8bn of stuff in it and then on 3rd he lost another Hulk and pod, and yet he is still showing his permit in his bio, I am sure on your logic he will think that permit is giving great value for money... I've never been ganked by any member of Code. Have had alot of fun killing them over the years though and eve would not be the same without them
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2856
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Posted - 2017.02.04 10:19:21 -
[68] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Luthor Ikkala wrote: Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for
I bought my Permit on my return to the game, last year, from Salah ad-Din Al-Jawahiri - and have not looked back since. I've never been ganked by a member of the New Order of Highsec (FacPo is a different story......). I was so impressed that I urged my alts to sign up, and they haven't been ganked either. It's wonderful! A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that? I noticed one chap who recently lost a freighter, he had brought his permit 30th January 2017 on the 31st he lost a Hulk and his pod to CODE followed up with a Charon and his pod with 8.8bn of stuff in it and then on 3rd he lost another Hulk and pod, and yet he is still showing his permit in his bio, I am sure on your logic he will think that permit is giving great value for money... I've never been ganked by any member of Code. Have had alot of fun killing them over the years though and eve would not be the same without them
Neither have I, and I find CODE amusing and I have shot quite a few and had some fun freighter saves too, in fact I find what I just posted on rather funny. But then again I used to like reading Psychotic Monk's stories very amusing.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Omar Alharazaad
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3228
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Posted - 2017.02.04 10:33:58 -
[69] - Quote
I once got my Curse ganked by Tengu Grib in a Thunderdome match. Does that count? On that day CODE surely won... I had the silly thing in reverse.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
302
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Posted - 2017.02.04 12:30:25 -
[70] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Luthor Ikkala wrote: Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for
I bought my Permit on my return to the game, last year, from Salah ad-Din Al-Jawahiri - and have not looked back since. I've never been ganked by a member of the New Order of Highsec (FacPo is a different story......). I was so impressed that I urged my alts to sign up, and they haven't been ganked either. It's wonderful! A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that? I noticed one chap who recently lost a freighter, he had brought his permit 30th January 2017 on the 31st he lost a Hulk and his pod to CODE followed up with a Charon and his pod with 8.8bn of stuff in it and then on 3rd he lost another Hulk and pod, and yet he is still showing his permit in his bio, I am sure on your logic he will think that permit is giving great value for money... 1. Undertanked ship. 2. Overloaded freighter and decadent pod. 3. Another undertanked ship.
Maybe if he actually followed the Code, he might not get ganked so much.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
449
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Posted - 2017.02.04 12:31:20 -
[71] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:
A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that?
Ah, Dracvlad! You would perhaps have found it more surprising had you the time to check my Corp History, but I'll save you the bother - we're all strapped for time these days.
FNA - March 3rd 2016/Jan 9th 2017 NOL - Jan 9th....
As I said, 'Wonderful!'
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2856
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Posted - 2017.02.04 14:15:03 -
[72] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Dracvlad wrote:
A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that?
Ah, Dracvlad! You would perhaps have found it more surprising had you the time to check my Corp History, but I'll save you the bother - we're all strapped for time these days. FNA - March 3rd 2016/Jan 9th 2017 NOL - Jan 9th.... As I said, 'Wonderful!'
And standings? There is a Test guy I see with CODE alts, I bet he does not get ganked either.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
449
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Posted - 2017.02.04 14:37:34 -
[73] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:
And standings?
The Deepest, Warmest Blue, Dracvlad; as far as the eye seeth and the soul searcheth!
'Twas but a jest, in order to provide relief from some work I'm doing and which is also undertaken at the PC. It's a bad practice, for it often means I spend too long in front of screens, against all sensible advice.
Still, it is true that I've a Permit and haven't been ganked. All the miners and other rebellious carebears have to do is persuade the New Order to blue them permanently.
A cinch!
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
890
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Posted - 2017.02.04 16:38:44 -
[74] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Luthor Ikkala wrote: Well some miners dont think the permit stops you from ganking them. There is always excuse to gank a miner. Fit thats not correct, mining like a bot whatever. Your permit would be okay and worth the 10mil if it would prevent future ganks, but however as it does not many thinks it isnt worth paying for
I bought my Permit on my return to the game, last year, from Salah ad-Din Al-Jawahiri - and have not looked back since. I've never been ganked by a member of the New Order of Highsec (FacPo is a different story......). I was so impressed that I urged my alts to sign up, and they haven't been ganked either. It's wonderful! A CODE member has not been ganked by CODE, well who would have thought that? I noticed one chap who recently lost a freighter, he had brought his permit 30th January 2017 on the 31st he lost a Hulk and his pod to CODE followed up with a Charon and his pod with 8.8bn of stuff in it and then on 3rd he lost another Hulk and pod, and yet he is still showing his permit in his bio, I am sure on your logic he will think that permit is giving great value for money... His hulk lacked tank, his freighter was autopiloting, his permit was revoked. The misinformation you're spreading is why AG will never win Permits don't protect, following the Code does.
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
Max Trix Shall Reign!
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2017.02.04 16:51:38 -
[75] - Quote
I always taunt code to come and get me, never any responses.
sO bite me and see below
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Spruillo
The Council Evictus.
76
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Posted - 2017.02.04 17:04:09 -
[76] - Quote
This travesty of Justice shall be dealt with
PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2856
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Posted - 2017.02.04 19:48:40 -
[77] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:His hulk lacked tank, his freighter was autopiloting, his permit was revoked. The misinformation you're spreading is why AG will never win Permits don't protect, following the Code does.
A hulk lacks tank. I merely pointed out that someone brought a permit and in a short space of time was ganked and podded three times. And Dom you seem to have no idea what AG is, it is a resistance movement, the HSM is something different. And finally applying the simple rule of trying to be hard to kill will protect you.
Seeing as you seem to be a bit of a cheerleader for CODE, we noticed that the number of committed active miner gankers seem a bit low at this point, just an observation on the part of a few AG players, do you have any information on this?
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
890
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Posted - 2017.02.04 20:00:11 -
[78] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:His hulk lacked tank, his freighter was autopiloting, his permit was revoked. The misinformation you're spreading is why AG will never win Permits don't protect, following the Code does. A hulk lacks tank. I merely pointed out that someone brought a permit and in a short space of time was ganked and podded three times. And Dom you seem to have no idea what AG is, it is a resistance movement, the HSM is something different. And finally applying the simple rule of trying to be hard to kill will protect you. Seeing as you seem to be a bit of a cheerleader for CODE, we noticed that the number of committed active miner gankers seem a bit low at this point, just an observation on the part of a few AG players, do you have any information on this? HSM is part of AG Both fail all-day everyday So in the end CODE. Always Wins.
I'm not a CODE. cheerleader lmao I'm a CODE. member (omg how shocking)
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
Max Trix Shall Reign!
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2856
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Posted - 2017.02.04 20:13:20 -
[79] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:His hulk lacked tank, his freighter was autopiloting, his permit was revoked. The misinformation you're spreading is why AG will never win Permits don't protect, following the Code does. A hulk lacks tank. I merely pointed out that someone brought a permit and in a short space of time was ganked and podded three times. And Dom you seem to have no idea what AG is, it is a resistance movement, the HSM is something different. And finally applying the simple rule of trying to be hard to kill will protect you. Seeing as you seem to be a bit of a cheerleader for CODE, we noticed that the number of committed active miner gankers seem a bit low at this point, just an observation on the part of a few AG players, do you have any information on this? HSM is part of AG Both fail all-day everyday So in the end CODE. Always Wins. I'm not a CODE. cheerleader lmao I'm a CODE. member (omg how shocking)
I had not noticed that you were in CODE, ah that explains it not a single kill under CODE since you joined them.
I am not going to educate you on your ignorance on the difference, blissful ignorance is fine.
Winning, the other day I moved 1.9bn of stuff from Amarr to Jita and no gank, CODE fail again, easy isn't it..., what's even more amusing is that CODE has not managed a single kill on any of my characters, zilch nada, rien... is that winning?
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
893
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Posted - 2017.02.04 20:36:20 -
[80] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:His hulk lacked tank, his freighter was autopiloting, his permit was revoked. The misinformation you're spreading is why AG will never win Permits don't protect, following the Code does. A hulk lacks tank. I merely pointed out that someone brought a permit and in a short space of time was ganked and podded three times. And Dom you seem to have no idea what AG is, it is a resistance movement, the HSM is something different. And finally applying the simple rule of trying to be hard to kill will protect you. Seeing as you seem to be a bit of a cheerleader for CODE, we noticed that the number of committed active miner gankers seem a bit low at this point, just an observation on the part of a few AG players, do you have any information on this? HSM is part of AG Both fail all-day everyday So in the end CODE. Always Wins. I'm not a CODE. cheerleader lmao I'm a CODE. member (omg how shocking) I had not noticed that you were in CODE, ah that explains it not a single kill under CODE since you joined them. I am not going to educate you on your ignorance on the difference, blissful ignorance is fine. Winning, the other day I moved 1.9bn of stuff from Amarr to Jita and no gank, CODE fail again, easy isn't it..., what's even more amusing is that CODE has not managed a single kill on any of my characters, zilch nada, rien... is that winning? Everything people do to not die to us is a victory to us, no matter what you think Also, just because I'm in CODEdot, doesn't actually mean I'm forced to gank... lmao
3-0 for me at this point Gg
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
Max Trix Shall Reign!
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
451
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Posted - 2017.02.04 20:41:10 -
[81] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote: 3-0 for me at this point Gg
Hey Dom, Dracvlad is failing so hard that if he'd been a 'real' vampire he'd have died from anaemia long before now.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2856
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Posted - 2017.02.04 21:15:14 -
[82] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:I had not noticed that you were in CODE, ah that explains it not a single kill under CODE since you joined them.
I am not going to educate you on your ignorance on the difference, blissful ignorance is fine.
Winning, the other day I moved 1.9bn of stuff from Amarr to Jita and no gank, CODE fail again, easy isn't it..., what's even more amusing is that CODE has not managed a single kill on any of my characters, zilch nada, rien... is that winning? Everything people do to not die to us is a victory to us, no matter what you think Also, just because I'm in CODEdot, doesn't actually mean I'm forced to gank... lmao 3-0 for me at this point Gg
CODE are not the only gankers and in any case it is an attitude of mind to be hard to kill or easy to kill, some people don't care, others do. But if you think it matters for you then it matters to you, fine by me, after all one sets ones own objectives and goals in this game.
I never said anything about being forced to gank, I was simply making an observation that I had not noticed that you were in CODE as I tend to look at active players in CODE, especially relevant due to the fall off in your alliances activities.
100-0 if you want, see you are winning
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2017.02.04 21:30:19 -
[83] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:His hulk lacked tank, his freighter was autopiloting, his permit was revoked. The misinformation you're spreading is why AG will never win Permits don't protect, following the Code does. A hulk lacks tank. I merely pointed out that someone brought a permit and in a short space of time was ganked and podded three times. And Dom you seem to have no idea what AG is, it is a resistance movement, the HSM is something different. And finally applying the simple rule of trying to be hard to kill will protect you. Seeing as you seem to be a bit of a cheerleader for CODE, we noticed that the number of committed active miner gankers seem a bit low at this point, just an observation on the part of a few AG players, do you have any information on this? HSM is part of AG Both fail all-day everyday So in the end CODE. Always Wins. I'm not a CODE. cheerleader lmao I'm a CODE. member (omg how shocking)
Poor old Dom
Determined to be deluded till the end.
It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
All this effort just to have his nick placed on a 'suckers' list (see minerbumping.com 'shareholder' list )
So so sad |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
451
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Posted - 2017.02.04 21:39:54 -
[84] - Quote
Zaha Koto wrote:
So so sad
I agree; but surely when you sculpted your character you realised you weren't posing for a passport photo?
James would call it 'the 1000 yard stare'; and he'd be right, as usual.
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
893
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Posted - 2017.02.04 22:01:26 -
[85] - Quote
Zaza, why u heff to be mad? is just game :D Is it because I'm simply doing better than you at being relevant? poor thing
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
Max Trix Shall Reign!
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5279
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Posted - 2017.02.05 00:24:24 -
[86] - Quote
They need a Mining Belt Territorial deployable. Sucks up a % of ore from active miners and then everyone can fight over it.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2017.02.05 01:17:27 -
[87] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Zaza, why u heff to be mad? is just game :D Is it because I'm simply doing better than you at being relevant? poor thing
Still deluded :(
You shouldn't have stopped taking the meds
It 's your doctor knows best not James
James is just befuddling you and stealing your isk.
The best you can get in return for your HUGE donation is 'Tip of the hat'
Enjoy |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27472
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Posted - 2017.02.05 01:17:55 -
[88] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Zaha Koto wrote:
So so sad
I agree; but surely when you sculpted your character you realised you weren't posing for a passport photo? James would call it 'the 1000 yard stare'; and he'd be right, as usual. Excessive mining laser exposure results in hypnotoad syndrome.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
Feyd's Survival Pack
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2017.02.05 01:25:21 -
[89] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Zaha Koto wrote:
So so sad
I agree; but surely when you sculpted your character you realised you weren't posing for a passport photo? James would call it 'the 1000 yard stare'; and he'd be right, as usual. Excessive mining laser exposure results in hypnotoad syndrome.
James315 is a serial liar and the only thing he is right about is understanding how he can persuade dummies to send him isk
Tbh altho I'm virulently opposed to the bullying culture he has injected into Eve I have a sneaking admiration for his talent.
Shame he is wasting it on the cr*p that is code
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27476
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Posted - 2017.02.05 01:45:59 -
[90] - Quote
Zaha Koto wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Zaha Koto wrote:
So so sad
I agree; but surely when you sculpted your character you realised you weren't posing for a passport photo? James would call it 'the 1000 yard stare'; and he'd be right, as usual. Excessive mining laser exposure results in hypnotoad syndrome. James315 is a serial liar and the only thing he is right about is understanding how he can persuade dummies to send him isk Tbh altho I'm virulently opposed to the bullying culture he has injected into Eve I have a sneaking admiration for his talent. Shame he is wasting it on the cr*p that is code Firstly, you quoted the wrong person.
Secondly, what CODE. does is nothing new, they're just more organised and better at propaganda than the corps that came before them. CODE. is the result of successive nerfs to highsec PvP shenanigans forcing the people who partook of them to become a cohesive organisation, with a substantial SRP.
I'm one of those dummies that sent James315 isk, I consider every penny well invested, not only does it help to create content, it feeds the main force that drives the market, destruction.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Feyd's Survival Pack
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2092
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Posted - 2017.02.05 02:26:31 -
[91] - Quote
Zaha Koto wrote:More tears from a loser
I'm sure we are all shocked, shocked I say, that we have been scammed out of our Fake Internet Space Moneys.
Even major alliances such as Goons have been scammed it seems.
Woe unto them.
However, it seems all da money goes to help kill freighters....and jump freighters.....and Orca's......and uncountable numbers of Venture's, Hulk's, etc.
Well now.
Seems to be money well spent.
Imagine that.
Now show us on the dolly where the Bad CODE Agent touched you.
We all need a good laugh, you see.
Toodles.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2017.02.05 10:19:42 -
[92] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:Zaha Koto wrote:More tears from a loser
I'm sure we are all shocked, shocked I say, that we have been scammed out of our Fake Internet Space Moneys. Even major alliances such as Goons have been scammed it seems. Woe unto them. However, it seems all da money goes to help kill freighters....and jump freighters.....and Orca's......and uncountable numbers of Venture's, Hulk's, etc. Well now. Seems to be money well spent. Imagine that. Now show us on the dolly where the Bad CODE Agent touched you. We all need a good laugh, you see. Toodles.
Yet more whining from a whining ninny |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
458
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Posted - 2017.02.05 11:36:32 -
[93] - Quote
Such an odd word; one hardly hears it nowadays, especially from the under-85s.
My ex-girlfriend's mother used to use it, especially when describing someone she thought foolish, in an 'I'm-better-than-you' sort of way. She regarded herself as a dyed in the wool middle-class conservative, but her grip on conservatism was fragile, for she'd acquired it second-hand, so to speak, from a book written in 1930 by a radical socialist, whose aim was actually to describe the beast in such harsh terms that anyone reading his words would be instantly converted in the opposite direction. Anyone of reasonable intellect, that is.
I checked with Google, and the word seems to have enjoyed its heyday in the early and late 19th Century.
Thank you for your efforts in attempting a local revival; I wish you every success! |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3770
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Posted - 2017.02.05 11:54:24 -
[94] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Such an odd word; one hardly hears it nowadays, especially from the under-85s. My ex-girlfriend's mother used to use it, especially when describing someone she thought foolish, in an 'I'm-better-than-you' sort of way. She regarded herself as a dyed in the wool middle-class conservative, but her grip on conservatism was fragile, for she'd acquired it second-hand, so to speak, from a book written in 1930 by a radical socialist, whose aim was actually to describe the beast in such harsh terms that anyone reading his words would be instantly converted in the opposite direction. Anyone of reasonable intellect, that is. I checked with Google, and the word seems to have enjoyed its heyday in the early and late 19th Century. Thank you for your efforts in attempting a local revival; I wish you every success! With this in mind go back and read some older posts looking for this word. You probably won't be surprised where it leads
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
458
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Posted - 2017.02.05 12:12:25 -
[95] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote: With this in mind go back and read some older posts looking for this word. You probably won't be surprised where it leads
Thanks Noragen, I did as you suggested. It's a more popular word than I thought - although its employment is restricted to - shall we say - no; better to remain silent, I think.
It isn't a word I could ever, ever use, under any circumstances, of any person, living or dead. My mouth/pen just won't allow me to do so.
O well, it momentarily livened up an otherwise weighty working Sunday.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27487
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Posted - 2017.02.05 13:13:30 -
[96] - Quote
Zaha Koto wrote:Yet more whining from a whining ninny You attempted to take me to task for calling you a whining ninny, yet here you are using the same phrase.
Such hypocrisy and a stunning example of "do as I say, not as I do". Now GTFO.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
Feyd's Survival Pack
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow
1904
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Posted - 2017.02.05 14:03:50 -
[97] - Quote
Oh know another thread of crying players tired of gankers whine whine whine my hulk esspoled whine whine whine they took all I had, whine whine whine you didn't learn from the other 200 threads about this same exact thing wah wah wah they can't be able to do that in this game they don't do it in wow wah wah wah welcome to eve where anything is possible, go back to wow if you prefer character safety noob.
This message brought to by the Merc with the mouth stop crying about gankers and fight back... Your typed words do nothing... Actions speak louder then words.
MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2017.02.05 23:13:52 -
[98] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Zaha Koto wrote:Yet more whining from a whining ninny You previously attempted to take me to task for calling you a whining ninny, yet here you are using the same phrase. Such hypocrisy and a stunning example of "do as I say, not as I do". Now GTFO.
I'm learning m8 |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27497
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Posted - 2017.02.05 23:42:22 -
[99] - Quote
It seems more like monkey see, monkey do.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
Feyd's Survival Pack
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2017.02.05 23:49:33 -
[100] - Quote
Heeeere code sissies come get me
See below
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Zaha Koto
State War Academy Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2017.02.05 23:51:41 -
[101] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It seems more like monkey see, monkey do.
You just so need The Last WordGäó
Well you can't have it!!! |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3773
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Posted - 2017.02.06 03:48:39 -
[102] - Quote
Zaha Koto wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It seems more like monkey see, monkey do. You just so need The Last WordGäó Well you can't have it!!! Last word
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
38
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Posted - 2017.02.06 04:13:21 -
[103] - Quote
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:Heeeere code sissies come get me
See below Whoa, I never thought I'll ever see so much content in a single post from miss Tucker. You guys must be inspiring.
By the way, I think miss Koto is kinda' sexy. I dig that look.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Lawrence Lawton
The Conference Elite CODE.
65
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Posted - 2017.02.10 19:23:41 -
[104] - Quote
Vito Molari wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote: And no friend... I don't believe CODE permission nor compliance affects someones decision to gank you one way or the other.
You are incorrect in your beliefs on this. It has a very significant impact on enforcement action selections. Compliance, a permit, and a good attitude will go a long way towards an enjoyable experience with CODE agents who do an often thankless job for the greater good in a very professional manner.
What's the difference between a Hulk and a Skiff? According to Clockwork Robot there is none. I'd fly a dozen jumps to gank only one of them though. I guess he's trying to say that nothing can stop a concerted attempt, which is flattering and true, which is all the more reason for a miner to take the target off his back by following The Code. |
Lawrence Lawton
The Conference Elite CODE.
65
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Posted - 2017.02.10 20:14:21 -
[105] - Quote
Quote:I noticed one chap who recently lost a freighter, he had brought his permit 30th January 2017 on the 31st he lost a Hulk and his pod to CODE followed up with a Charon and his pod with 8.8bn of stuff in it and then on 3rd he lost another Hulk and pod, and yet he is still showing his permit in his bio, I am sure on your logic he will think that permit is giving great value for money... Storytime!
You must be referring to Yogmiester Bashore. Yes, there is a great lesson to be learned from his case. He is one of those pilots who is too impatient to train, spending RL$ to inject his characters into whatever ship his calculations determine will be optimal, without taking the time to learn the political situation.
Kill: Yogmiester Bashore (Hulk) -- The first time I met Yogmiester he had purchased a permit the day before but failed to display it in his biography. He also chose to fly the weakest of mining ship and further weaken it by his choice of rigging. In post-gank debrief he claimed to have read The Code but was flabbergasted to learn that "Gallant tanks his ships to improve their EHP." His permit was revoked, but he purchased a new one and was given another chance.
Kill: Yogmiester Bashore (Charon) -- The next day his corpmates trusted him to haul their Azbel through Niarja. By this time he was displaying the permit in his bio. He decided against using bulkheads in favor of expanders (so he could carry more station containers) and was intercepted and relieved of his cargo. He was flabbergasted to learn that The Code doesn't apply to just miners. His permit was once again revoked for failure to tank, and he was placed on the Red Pen List for egregious offenders where he remains. He was also booted from his player corp.
For some reason he continues to display his revoked permit but his choice of ship gives him away as a violator every time: Kill: Yogmiester Bashore (Hulk) Kill: Yogmiester Bashore (Hulk)
Yogmiester is an example of what we call a bot-aspirant. He mindlessly aims for max yield at the expense of everything and fails to adapt to player-generated circumstances. He also serves as an excellent reminder that a permit is not a guarantee of safety; a permit is a promise to follow The Code. |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2017.02.11 23:30:47 -
[106] - Quote
Heeere code losers Come and toss my salad (_*_)
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2017.02.12 00:20:19 -
[107] - Quote
Lawrence Lawton wrote:Vito Molari wrote:Clockwork Robot wrote: And no friend... I don't believe CODE permission nor compliance affects someones decision to gank you one way or the other.
You are incorrect in your beliefs on this. It has a very significant impact on enforcement action selections. Compliance, a permit, and a good attitude will go a long way towards an enjoyable experience with CODE agents who do an often thankless job for the greater good in a very professional manner. What's the difference between a Hulk and a Skiff? According to Clockwork Robot there is none. I'd fly a dozen jumps to gank only one of them though. I guess he's trying to say that nothing can stop a concerted attempt, which is flattering and true, which is all the more reason for a miner to take the target off his back by following The Code.
That is what I was implying, dear Lawrence. |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2017.02.13 00:34:55 -
[108] - Quote
I have been pleading for a code loser to come and get me, to no avail. Mine as you please...i do
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Omar Alharazaad
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3238
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Posted - 2017.02.13 04:50:24 -
[109] - Quote
must be pretty bad when even the losers wont pay attention to you.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:32:54 -
[110] - Quote
If you don't want to be ganked or reduce the chance of being ganked there are things you can do as a person. 1) Be active and not AFK mining (dscan skills, contacts with known gankers set to orange/red and being careful of local) 2) Choose the appropriate ship for the task; in 0.9 you might fly an untanked covetor (or mostly so) But this is only efficient in a fleet with boosts, etc. Solo retriever or procurer (It's almost never worth it to gank a properly tanked procurer) 3) Don't mine in places where gankers tend to be prevalent.
Extortion is not a career path laid forth by the training agents in the career systems but I guess concord hasn't vilified the extortion just anything where they might have to get involved with like the actual ganking. |
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Lawrence Lawton
The Conference Elite CODE.
70
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Posted - 2017.02.15 20:37:57 -
[111] - Quote
Henry Plantgenet wrote:If you don't want to be ganked or reduce the chance of being ganked there are things you can do as a person. 1) Be active and not AFK mining (dscan skills, contacts with known gankers set to orange/red and being careful of local) 2) Choose the appropriate ship for the task; in 0.9 you might fly an untanked covetor (or mostly so) But this is only efficient in a fleet with boosts, etc. Solo retriever or procurer (It's almost never worth it to gank a properly tanked procurer) 3) Don't mine in places where gankers tend to be prevalent.
Extortion is not a career path laid forth by the training agents in the career systems but I guess concord hasn't vilified the extortion just anything where they might have to get involved with like the actual ganking. Might as well just tell them to follow The Code. 1) No AFK mining allowed. 2) Gallant tanks his ships to improve their EHP. 3) New Order territory is a safe space for suicide gankers.
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Jacques d'Orleans
2943
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Posted - 2017.02.15 21:07:33 -
[112] - Quote
ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7
Oh, it's one of those posts, again.
Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
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Jabba The
Tri-Star Deep Space Mining
0
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Posted - 2017.03.06 22:55:09 -
[113] - Quote
I started playing Eve a number of years ago, I stopped 2-3 years ago due to the Code, i'm now back and maybe for just a short time as nothing has changed.
Let me start by saying that I have not had a problem yet but its just time, I have read a lot in the past few days and it saddens me as to the extent that the Code now goes to push people to the brink of in some cases the end. I know how I felt after spending 6 months playing the game to have it taken from me in the space og 1 hour by some keyboard warrior doing the bidding of the Code.
I have read the Code rules and at the start I thought that I might join, should people face having a ship destroyed if they start mining and they go do other stuff, yes why not. Many of the things Code say are good BUT its the callus, belittling attacks that take part in local or however they do it after that is straight out harassment and that is unacceptable. What the Code are saying is that they don't like you game play and for 10m isk they might let you away with it and that's not right in a game. Its ok to do that if you pay me is what they are saying.
I find it interesting that the leader of the code has a name sighting a piece of the bible.
None of this is by accident, a very intelligent person has researched and controlled the GM's and rules so that there actions are accepted, they even celebrate pushing a person that has issues just spending some time playing a game for release (IMO) into the point of saying i'll kill myself, they then say well we are nice people because we put in a report telling of there possible harm, They again, the keyboard warriors, don't say that they helped push the person to that point.
But to guide this rant to an endhere are some things that are wrong with the game IMO.
1. I have to monitor chat in case one of these people decide that i'm next, I know that as soon as I get picked my game is over. I'm no good at PvP (i would like to be but i'm **** at it. I like mining and doing missions, making things and to sell them to people that do like PvP. This is what happened when I gave up before, I was NOT AFK and had just started to mine Ice, I was told the day I started that 10m Isk or else, no rule violations just give me the money.
2. Within 5 min. my game and the fun I have had to build my stuff up is gone, just posting this post will no doubt bring my end within days. We will see.
Last, I don't blame the players as much as I blame the GM's, it has to be said they and they alone give the Code the power to do the crap they do, its easy GM's just have a PvP setting, if I want to battle other players I can and if not I don't have to. I can already hear you saying that's the game if you don't like it go play WoW, WoW does not allow this action that's why these people are playing this game because the GM's allow it.
I could go on for hours but as bad as my PvP skills are so is my spelling and grammar. I like this game, Im happy to pay to play this game but for the love of god or in this case James315 or whatever his name please hear the players that just like to get on with there own bad selves.
Just 1 person but I pay just as much as you do.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27959
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Posted - 2017.03.06 23:42:33 -
[114] - Quote
Jabba The wrote:1. I have to monitor chat in case one of these people decide that i'm next, I know that as soon as I get picked my game is over. I'm no good at PvP (i would like to be but i'm **** at it. I like mining and doing missions, making things and to sell them to people that do like PvP. This is what happened when I gave up before, I was NOT AFK and had just started to mine Ice, I was told the day I started that 10m Isk or else, no rule violations just give me the money. Like you I suck at PvP, I actively avoid it. Thus far it hasn't caught up, CODE. don't bother me, nor do wardec corps. I like to think this is because there's people out there that yield a far greater reward for exponentially less effort.
Git gud.
Quote:2. Within 5 min. my game and the fun I have had to build my stuff up is gone, just posting this post will no doubt bring my end within days. We will see. Did you somehow miss that this is a full loot PvP game where loss actually matters because your stuff doesn't automagically respawn when you die?
Quote:Last, I don't blame the players as much as I blame the GM's, it has to be said they and they alone give the Code the power to do the crap they do, its easy GM's just have a PvP setting, if I want to battle other players I can and if not I don't have to. I can already hear you saying that's the game if you don't like it go play WoW, WoW does not allow this action that's why these people are playing this game because the GM's allow it. The overall PvP setting is logging in, the spaceships PvP setting is marked "undock".
Quote:I could go on for hours but as bad as my PvP skills are so is my spelling and grammar. I like this game, Im happy to pay to play this game but for the love of god or in this case James315 or whatever his name please hear the players that just like to get on with there own bad selves.
Just 1 person but I pay just as much as you do. Eve is a PvP game, there are alternatives out there that aren't as PvP orientated, some of them even have private groups; you may find them to be a better place to spend your money as they cater to people like yourself.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3864
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Posted - 2017.03.07 00:54:54 -
[115] - Quote
Jabba The wrote:I started playing Eve a number of years ago, I stopped 2-3 years ago due to the Code, i'm now back and maybe for just a short time as nothing has changed. Let me start by saying that I have not had a problem yet but its just time, I have read a lot in the past few days and it saddens me as to the extent that the Code now goes to push people to the brink of in some cases the end. I know how I felt after spending 6 months playing the game to have it taken from me in the space og 1 hour by some keyboard warrior doing the bidding of the Code. I have read the Code rules and at the start I thought that I might join, should people face having a ship destroyed if they start mining and they go do other stuff, yes why not. Many of the things Code say are good BUT its the callus, belittling attacks that take part in local or however they do it after that is straight out harassment and that is unacceptable. What the Code are saying is that they don't like you game play and for 10m isk they might let you away with it and that's not right in a game. Its ok to do that if you pay me is what they are saying. I find it interesting that the leader of the code has a name sighting a piece of the bible. None of this is by accident, a very intelligent person has researched and controlled the GM's and rules so that there actions are accepted, they even celebrate pushing a person that has issues just spending some time playing a game for release (IMO) into the point of saying i'll kill myself, they then say well we are nice people because we put in a report telling of there possible harm, They again, the keyboard warriors, don't say that they helped push the person to that point. But to guide this rant to an endhere are some things that are wrong with the game IMO. 1. I have to monitor chat in case one of these people decide that i'm next, I know that as soon as I get picked my game is over. I'm no good at PvP (i would like to be but i'm **** at it. I like mining and doing missions, making things and to sell them to people that do like PvP. This is what happened when I gave up before, I was NOT AFK and had just started to mine Ice, I was told the day I started that 10m Isk or else, no rule violations just give me the money. 2. Within 5 min. my game and the fun I have had to build my stuff up is gone, just posting this post will no doubt bring my end within days. We will see. Last, I don't blame the players as much as I blame the GM's, it has to be said they and they alone give the Code the power to do the crap they do, its easy GM's just have a PvP setting, if I want to battle other players I can and if not I don't have to. I can already hear you saying that's the game if you don't like it go play WoW, WoW does not allow this action that's why these people are playing this game because the GM's allow it. I could go on for hours but as bad as my PvP skills are so is my spelling and grammar. I like this game, Im happy to pay to play this game but for the love of god or in this case James315 or whatever his name please hear the players that just like to get on with there own bad selves. Just 1 person but I pay just as much as you do. JT Wow... First up if you or anybody are feeling RL negative emotions over eve that are leading you down a path of thinking life is pointless stop playing now. Go speak to any number of RL organizations that help people deal with this and do it promptly.
Second. You described the game perfectly. You can spend countless hours putting all your eggs into one basket and anybody else can come smash those eggs through any number of means not limited to Highsec ganking, Wardecs, camping/destroying anything that moves in target systems, blowing up/conquering stations/structures, market manipulation, scamming and many more. The trick is multiple baskets with multiple eggs and vigilance against losing it all. If you do lose it all pick yourself back up and build up again a little wiser and a little more experienced.
Finally Posts like this where you bring RL into this game are the problem. I honestly don't care about 99.9% of the player base irl problems/emotions. That may seem callous but I have family, friends, colleagues and the immediate group of online acquaintances whose lives I take an interest in. I do not have the time/energy to run around and check on every person I kill in an online game to make sure they are ok. Assume every single member of CODE. (and everybody else in the game you don't associate with) are in the same basket as me and also don't have the time or energy to check on your well being and assume you also have family, friends, colleagues and acquaintances who check on you. If you play the game with that in mind and assume everybody is out to have their fun and don't actually consider you one way or the other you are set. If this doesn't appeal to you a compeditive MMO is not for you as they are all like this to some degree.
Hope this helps
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Lawrence Lawton
The Conference Elite CODE.
97
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Posted - 2017.03.07 04:21:09 -
[116] - Quote
Jabba The wrote: It's easy--GM's just have a PvP setting, if I want to battle other players I can and if not I don't have to.
At least you're direct about what you want. Many of your fellow carebears feel the same way as you but, unlike you, they beat around the bush with nonsense about "nonconsensual PvP" being unethical.
A great man once said,
Quote:Your vision of EVE cannot coexist with the real EVE, unless EVE is transformed either into a single-player game or a theme park. That man is James 315, Supreme Protector and Saviour of Highsec. You're precisely the type of carebear James warned us about. You're bad at EVE. You don't even like EVE. But you can't find anything better, so you would change EVE into Space WoW to suit your needs. |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.03.07 18:59:49 -
[117] - Quote
code is dead...butt nugget!
code ALWAYS LOSES.
Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.03.07 19:00:37 -
[118] - Quote
Lawrence Lawton wrote:Jabba The wrote: It's easy--GM's just have a PvP setting, if I want to battle other players I can and if not I don't have to.
At least you're direct about what you want. Many of your fellow carebears feel the same way as you but, unlike you, they beat around the bush with nonsense about "nonconsensual PvP" being unethical. A great man once said, Quote:Your vision of EVE cannot coexist with the real EVE, unless EVE is transformed either into a single-player game or a theme park. That man is James 315, Supreme Protector and Saviour of Highsec. You're precisely the type of carebear James warned us about. You're bad at EVE. You don't even like EVE. But you can't find anything better, so you would change EVE into Space WoW to suit your needs.
james can toss my salad
code ALWAYS LOSES.
Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
2121
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Posted - 2017.03.07 19:06:37 -
[119] - Quote
Jabba The wrote:....words fail me......
It seems EVE is not for you.
Star Trek Online is free to play and has zero PVP. You can even be a miner in it. You can walk in stations. You can beam down to planets. You get to wear nifty costumes.
Now GTFO, punk.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
632
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Posted - 2017.03.07 21:24:54 -
[120] - Quote
Jabba The wrote:I have read the Code rules and at the start I thought that I might join, should people face having a ship destroyed if they start mining and they go do other stuff, yes why not. Many of the things Code say are good BUT its the callus, belittling attacks that take part in local or however they do it after that is straight out harassment and that is unacceptable. What the Code are saying is that they don't like you game play and for 10m isk they might let you away with it and that's not right in a game. Its ok to do that if you pay me is what they are saying. JT
You thought you might pay... but you didn't buy a permit.
You don't want to pvp and a permit was offered to you so you wouldn't have to, as much anyway... and you didn't buy a permit.
You were aware of the Code and the consequences of violating it... and you didn't buy a permit.
You bothered to write your rather long complaint about your real life problems with not having a permit... and you didn't buy a permit.
You've spelled out your vision of a game where you have some protection from CODE. ... and you didn't buy a permit.
Why, in the end, have you not bought a permit?
Highsec is worth fighting for.
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.03.08 00:00:58 -
[121] - Quote
Bing Bangboom wrote:Jabba The wrote:I have read the Code rules and at the start I thought that I might join, should people face having a ship destroyed if they start mining and they go do other stuff, yes why not. Many of the things Code say are good BUT its the callus, belittling attacks that take part in local or however they do it after that is straight out harassment and that is unacceptable. What the Code are saying is that they don't like you game play and for 10m isk they might let you away with it and that's not right in a game. Its ok to do that if you pay me is what they are saying. JT You thought you might pay... but you didn't buy a permit. You don't want to pvp and a permit was offered to you so you wouldn't have to, as much anyway... and you didn't buy a permit. You were aware of the Code and the consequences of violating it... and you didn't buy a permit. You bothered to write your rather long complaint about your real life problems with not having a permit... and you didn't buy a permit. You've spelled out your vision of a game where you have some protection from CODE. ... and you didn't buy a permit. Why, in the end, have you not bought a permit?
YO loser! code is dead...MOVE ON already
code ALWAYS LOSES.
Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1008
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Posted - 2017.03.08 01:57:50 -
[122] - Quote
lel
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.03.08 04:35:12 -
[123] - Quote
5 YOU !!!
code ALWAYS LOSES.
Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Keno Skir
1352
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Posted - 2017.03.08 18:37:29 -
[124] - Quote
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:Dunno how can you veterans still click on these threads. I just arrived, but already bored with it's countless iterations.
Ok, I admit, some fellows post 'em in a more amusing way.
Just wait, in a few years you still be clicking that bait just to see if it's good for once
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Kaely Tanniss
OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right
755
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Posted - 2017.03.23 22:01:22 -
[125] - Quote
ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7
So stop them. Stop expecting someone else to do the work for you. If it bothers you, do something about it yourself. I can assure you, post tear threads on C&P will not help you one bit..in fact, it hurts you.
Mining is NOT free. Mining is a risk in a game like Eve. All actions in the game have a level of risk everyone has to accept. Even the very action of undocking is a risk and consent to being attacked. The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be. Eve is not for everyone. Some learn and take the necessary precautions and accept the risk..some don't and whine on here like you are.
What you want is risk free isk generation. Sorry bud, that's not gonna happen. Not here, not now, not ever in this game.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Kaely Tanniss
OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right
771
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Posted - 2017.03.27 08:23:32 -
[126] - Quote
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:Dunno how can you veterans still click on these threads. I just arrived, but already bored with it's countless iterations.
Ok, I admit, some fellows post 'em in a more amusing way.
Think of it like a bad train wreck.. you don't rwally want to see..but you can't help but look.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Yebo Lakatosh
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2017.03.27 11:26:08 -
[127] - Quote
I plea newbness.
The quoted comment was made on the very beginning of my journey in EvE. I still feel every line of it is true. And I still click these threads every few days.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Jacques d'Orleans
3033
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Posted - 2017.03.27 15:47:45 -
[128] - Quote
Hazel TuckerTS wrote: YO loser! code is dead...MOVE ON already
Hazel, If you're going to try being a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an ass.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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StarVex Ronuken
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.04.10 20:25:33 -
[129] - Quote
I understand that ccp has already made it clear about miner bumping/ganking topic.. but the harassment rule doesn't cover the other areas that have code or other miner gankers where you left to avoid that group. personally I get it.. its a sandbox type game and some people get a kick out of screwing up someones day and trying to get free isk off of the gullible people that buy into the mining permits. but what ive noticed is that even if you have a permit they will still gank you. don't know what the big deal with them shooting miners is but if every miner decided to quit mining because of the constant ganks/harassment.. which happens everywhere in highsec and the loophole is its different groups so nothing ever gets done about it. without miners the eve economy would become very unstable right? you need minerals to build ships and if no ships are built there are none to sell. I could be wrong but I don't think that ships just magically appear ingame. just my 2 cents gankers can talk all the crap they want.. don't really care. but paying money for a game that I cant really do what I want in is kinda pointless. and yes since the alpha thing came out I could play for free but ive been subscribed for almost a year now. tried an alpha alt... not my cup of tea. |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
672
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Posted - 2017.04.10 21:16:39 -
[130] - Quote
StarVex Ronuken wrote: you need minerals to build ships and if no ships are built there are none to sell. Apart from your 'stream of consciousness' style (seriously, use paragraphs where you can StarVex), I also find it hard going to answer these same tired points made by you and other whiners.
I wouldn't worry though; eventually, all mining will be done by NPCs - that's why CCP is trialling it now - and the supply side will thus be handled by the new AI they're developing. Isn't it wonderful?! We'll be able to switch our attention from AFK miners to AFK haulers, Autopiloters, and other Highsec ne'er-do-wells.
Marvellous!
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New Order Audio Archive
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StarVex Ronuken
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.04.10 21:32:07 -
[131] - Quote
yea not good with writing. it makes sense that npcs will be the future miners. oh well.. and who said I was whining? I get where yall are coming from.. the tears are nice I will admit. but at least tone some of the cultism down though seriously it reminds me of children of the corn
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
672
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Posted - 2017.04.10 22:57:06 -
[132] - Quote
StarVex Ronuken wrote:yea not good with writing. it makes sense that npcs will be the future miners. oh well.. and who said I was whining? I get where yall are coming from.. the tears are nice I will admit. but at least tone some of the cultism down though seriously it reminds me of children of the corn
The message has to be wrapped in a recognisable package in order for the miners to 'get it'. They don't like the package much either; but (eventually, by hook or by Void), they get it.
If the New Order of Highsec is a cult, it's a very odd one. You're free to leave and join at any point, there's no subscription - indeed, your running costs are reimbursed! - and no records whatsoever are kept. The Order does have a charismatic leader, that I grant you. Ghandi was a charismatic leader, but I'd hardly describe his party and followers as members of a 'cult'.
I apologise for calling you a whiner; there appeared to me to be the air of complaint about your post. Clearly, I was in error!
EDIT: Grammar; instrumental case.
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New Order Audio Archive
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StarVex Ronuken
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.04.11 17:47:05 -
[133] - Quote
eh its cool man.. did some lowsec faction warfare/pirating for a month or so.. the salt and tears were magical. but at the same time it became unenjoyable out there. lp farmers and the guys that wont take a fight without overwhelming numbers with ecm and logi support. decided to try and mine so I could at least keep building the ships I fly and keep my omega status but that doesn't seem to be working either. mining is boring as hell but its kind of a step away from things and reset my mind frame thing.
not all the members have the cultist mindset.. but most do. the way they talk or at least the bio's. you should read some of them. there are a few where its about a paragraph worth of (praise james) I kid you not it just a paragraph of praise james 315.
if people actually paid attention to local or at least dscan instead of afk mining or picked a tankier miner a lot of ganks wouldn't happen. it just gets old.. same crap different day. I tried different parts of eve to get isk up to pay for my accounts omega status but I'm just not skilled enough for anything other than mining it out. once my omega status is up in 13 days I'm done unfortunately. I like this game and most of the people in it.. but it seems that I cant unwind in it anymore like I used to.
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
674
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:13:15 -
[134] - Quote
StarVex Ronuken wrote:I like this game and most of the people in it.. but it seems that I cant unwind in it anymore like I used to. It happens, StarVex, and to very many people. Take a break; go and do the stuff you like to do. Whatever you do, stay away from EVE. I can't stress that enough. Get it right out of your system. You'll know it's working when RL starts to throw you interesting alternatives.
If that doesn't happen, and you find RL as much of a grind as EVE was, then the problem is not EVE, and the solution lies elsewhere. I wish you the best of luck; and I'm being sincere.
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Sharnhorst von Deathwish
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:33:38 -
[135] - Quote
2mm EHP plus 3mm active tank. 1500 dps. Pulls in 1.2mm m3 am hour. Never once ganked on 10 years by code. Must have been grandfathered into that permit...
The trick wee miners is to go mine where they are afraid to go.. which would be anywhere people would be shooting back.
And yes, the codes color of choice is yellow. |
Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1167
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:50:46 -
[136] - Quote
Sharnhorst von Deathwish wrote:2mm EHP plus 3mm active tank. 1500 dps. Pulls in 1.2mm m3 am hour. Never once ganked on 10 years by code. Must have been grandfathered into that permit...
The trick wee miners is to go mine where they are afraid to go.. which would be anywhere people would be shooting back.
And yes, the codes color of choice is yellow. Lol We want stuff to shoot back But usually they're the ones running away with their tails between their legs :D
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Sharnhorst von Deathwish
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2017.04.11 20:05:46 -
[137] - Quote
Well, to be fair.. your sort live in High Sec. I'm not fond of that myself, the police folk get so angry when guns go hot.. |
Peorthyr Ashagal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.12 11:56:28 -
[138] - Quote
Hi all. I'm perfectly ok with any kind of gank in the game, with tear collectors and highsec kills (I really appreciate the efforts to actually kill players in highsec, is really neat), my only concern about this topic is "bumping".
Bumping is really "ugly" as mechanic, looking at a ship ramming another and see it jumping back, oh my God that's really ugly in a game where everything is such a perfect view. Actually I've read a blog entry from CCP in where they explain that "bumping" is not an exploit, but I wtrongly hope that this very mechanic will be somehow revisited because I cannot stay in an strongly epic atmosphere like EVE and see this ugliness around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHdMHuUHmWc |
Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1168
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Posted - 2017.04.12 12:20:11 -
[139] - Quote
Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:Hi all. I'm perfectly ok with any kind of gank in the game, with tear collectors and highsec kills (I really appreciate the efforts to actually kill players in highsec, is really neat), my only concern about this topic is "bumping". Bumping is really "ugly" as mechanic, looking at a ship ramming another and see it jumping back, oh my God that's really ugly in a game where everything is such a perfect view. Actually I've read a blog entry from CCP in where they explain that "bumping" is not an exploit, but I wtrongly hope that this very mechanic will be somehow revisited because I cannot stay in an strongly epic atmosphere like EVE and see this ugliness around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHdMHuUHmWc Perhaps...
Kill the bumper instead of crying on the forums?
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Peorthyr Ashagal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.12 12:43:24 -
[140] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Kill the bumper instead of crying on the forums?
No tears here, sorry. (but I can sense some salt from you?) try to read my sentences, I know my english isn't perfect, but I bet you got the sense.
As I've already explained, I feel the bumping thingy a little "ugly" to see, this is a game with big starships, lasers, missiles, megainfernorockets... and bumping...that's the anti-epicness IMHO.
maybe a better mechanic for bumping (and some visuals) is needed to maintain the epic level of the game at the same state as other things in EVE.
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
674
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Posted - 2017.04.12 13:24:10 -
[141] - Quote
Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Kill the bumper instead of crying on the forums? No tears here, sorry. (but I can sense some salt from you?) try to read my sentences, I know my english isn't perfect, but I bet you got the sense. As I've already explained, I feel the bumping thingy a little "ugly" to see, this is a game with big starships, lasers, missiles, megainfernorockets... and bumping...that's the anti-epicness IMHO. maybe a better mechanic for bumping (and some visuals) is needed to maintain the epic level of the game at the same state as other things in EVE. What you're talking about has been discussed before. Surprise, surprise.
The way collisions are handled in EVE is no less 'realistic' than the way other features are handled; dare I suggest that 'point-and-click' is hardly a technological innovation...
I suspect that it would be just too much work to change the mechanic - even if there were an appetite for doing so.
At some point, if bumping is proven to be in need of a change, CCP will do it, and ask for no one's 'by your leave..' Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
You will, however, have to explain how crashing into a ship might otherwise work. Pay special attention to whether both vessels are in motion when the collision happens, or whether the 'target' is stationary. Calculate the relative speeds and trajectories in order to display the severity of any damage which might occur. Ask the Art Dept to create damage workups for each ship in the game. How would 10% damage to the front off-side point of a Retriever piloted by someone with only basic shield-tanking skills be represented - in colour . Then multiply that visual damage profile for ships with SKINS; a new profile for each SKIN. Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
Then start your coding...
Simple, really.
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Areen Sassel
190
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Posted - 2017.04.13 02:04:12 -
[142] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
And I'll bet every other null bloc would be utterly delighted by the prospect of a dozen bees in inties being able to kamikaze a super off the field. :-) |
Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1170
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Posted - 2017.04.13 02:54:55 -
[143] - Quote
Areen Sassel wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping... And I'll bet every other null bloc would be utterly delighted by the prospect of a dozen bees in inties being able to kamikaze a super off the field. :-) RIP 4-4
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Kaely Tanniss
OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right
831
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Posted - 2017.04.13 07:32:11 -
[144] - Quote
Oooo... Suicide bumping. Now THAT would be interesting. I suspect, though, that it would only become yet another "arguing" point for those who can't seem to grasp the concept of the game.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Jacques d'Orleans
3096
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Posted - 2017.04.13 11:10:52 -
[145] - Quote
Kaely Tanniss wrote:Oooo... Suicide bumping. Now THAT would be interesting. I suspect, though, that it would only become yet another "arguing" point for those who can't seem to grasp the concept of the game.
Yes, it would, that's sure. On the other hand I see the new game content a really working damage and collision model would give to all of us. It would, so to say, chaff separated from the wheat, e.g the ones who whine will still do so, but I'm pretty sure it also would create a new sort of player those who try to make it thru hordes of enemies and delivering their goods. Not just a "Hauler", but a real "Merchant Marine". Like the type of badasses these guys were: "Ganked and "Bumped" for days but still made it.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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Peorthyr Ashagal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.13 15:31:13 -
[146] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote: What you're talking about has been discussed before. Surprise, surprise.
The way collisions are handled in EVE is no less 'realistic' than the way other features are handled; dare I suggest that 'point-and-click' is hardly a technological innovation...
I suspect that it would be just too much work to change the mechanic - even if there were an appetite for doing so.
At some point, if bumping is proven to be in need of a change, CCP will do it, and ask for no one's 'by your leave..' Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
You will, however, have to explain how crashing into a ship might otherwise work. Pay special attention to whether both vessels are in motion when the collision happens, or whether the 'target' is stationary. Calculate the relative speeds and trajectories in order to display the severity of any damage which might occur. Ask the Art Dept to create damage workups for each ship in the game. How would 10% damage to the front off-side point of a Retriever piloted by someone with only basic shield-tanking skills be represented - in colour . Then multiply that visual damage profile for ships with SKINS; a new profile for each SKIN. Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
Then start your coding...
Simple, really.
Of course I can image that it is already been discussed, in fact I just stated my opinion on the topic (which is a discussion on that point), your implementation description is pointless unless you are actually have seen the code of EVE. I don't get the point, are you complaining because I have written that the bumping mechanic is ugly? You talk about realism, but I never talked about it, my opinion is opposite to that, EVE is EPIC, not REALISTIC, and bumping is what I can image of the most far away concept of epicnes.
By the way, it was just my opinion on the topic, nothing more. I surely don't need that implemented tomorrow, just talking. Sorry if I've touched you somehow. |
Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
674
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Posted - 2017.04.13 16:24:39 -
[147] - Quote
Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:Sorry if I've touched you somehow. To touch me, you must first catch me!
No, no. You displayed what I took to be naivety, given that bumping has been discussed to death - in all its aspects. No one begrudges you your opinion; however, don't be surprised if it isn't wholeheartedly embraced by an adoring public, in raptures at your originality and hearing it for the first time.
The Crime and Punishment sub-forum presents a challenging environment to the unwary. Don't be unwary.
I don't need to see EVE's code. The physics of bumping were also discussed - along with the other goodies you clearly missed. It's not your fault I suppose if you missed the thread/s, but it wouldn't hurt, would it, to at least try to discover whether your opinion was likely to spark interest or not. Of course, you may not care whether or not it does so.
Have you submitted your thoughts and opinions to the Player Features & Ideas sub-forum?
You round off your mini-sulk with 'it was just my opinion, nothing more'. Young man; opinions matter. That is, informed and well-formed opinions matter.
D'you know, I've completely forgotten what this is all about. Better stop there, Sasha....
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2017.04.13 22:51:32 -
[148] - Quote
Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:
Sorry if I've touched you somehow.
Never apologise to a Codie, just realise they are sensitive petals who wail at the smallest prick ( not you ).
The locals here usually ignore their circle jerk posts to each other.
They have low self esteem from a cloning accident that denied them reproductive organs. The same cloning mistake gave them sub par brains, only able to achieve repetitive botting tasks such as ganking.
I have studied these pathetic organisms by numerous biopsy's on their podded corpses. Some superior entities (by comparison) have been able to break free of their cult like environment. Establishing their own care facility and activities, well done to the Kusions for this minor achievement. Baby steps, baby steps!
James315 started out as their carer. As time went by and the pressures of running such a large care facility struck, he had break-down. Whilst on a battery of cheap medications suppled by the Angel Cartel James315 had visions; "Why be just a low paid long suffering carer surrounded by bots - I will be the Organ Grinder and these bots can be my unpaid monkeys."
So you see Peorthr, the locals here NEVER take a Codie seriously. We nod and wink at them, occasionally pod them for sport , but we NEVER take them seriously.
Help explain? |
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2017.04.14 18:02:55 -
[149] - Quote
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:
Sorry if I've touched you somehow.
Never apologise to a Codie, just realise they are sensitive petals who wail at the smallest prick ( not you ). The locals here usually ignore their circle jerk posts to each other. They have low self esteem from a cloning accident that denied them reproductive organs. The same cloning mistake gave them sub par brains, only able to achieve repetitive botting tasks such as ganking. I have studied these pathetic organisms by numerous biopsy's on their podded corpses. Some superior entities (by comparison) have been able to break free of their cult like environment. Establishing their own care facility and activities, well done to the Kusions for this minor achievement. Baby steps, baby steps! James315 started out as their carer. As time went by and the pressures of running such a large care facility struck, he had a break-down. Whilst on a battery of cheap medications supplied by the Angel Cartel James315 had visions; "Why be just a low paid long suffering carer surrounded by bots - I will be the Organ Grinder and these bots can be my unpaid monkeys." So you see Peorthr, the locals here NEVER take a Codie seriously. We nod and wink at them, occasionally pod them for sport , but we NEVER take them seriously. Help explain?
That is like, so many words for a group you don't take seriously. I'm certain Sasha has a more eloquently worded statement to this effect, but sometimes I prefer brevity.
You care. A lot. |
Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2017.04.14 19:42:04 -
[150] - Quote
How was the finger-painting today Mr Robot? Good Yes.
*Nods & Winks then leaves* |
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
675
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:05:21 -
[151] - Quote
Clockwork Robot wrote:Vipsan Agrippa wrote:Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:
Sorry if I've touched you somehow.
Never apologise to a Codie, just realise they are sensitive petals who wail at the smallest prick ( not you ). The locals here usually ignore their circle jerk posts to each other. They have low self esteem from a cloning accident that denied them reproductive organs. The same cloning mistake gave them sub par brains, only able to achieve repetitive botting tasks such as ganking. I have studied these pathetic organisms by numerous biopsy's on their podded corpses. Some superior entities (by comparison) have been able to break free of their cult like environment. Establishing their own care facility and activities, well done to the Kusions for this minor achievement. Baby steps, baby steps! James315 started out as their carer. As time went by and the pressures of running such a large care facility struck, he had a break-down. Whilst on a battery of cheap medications supplied by the Angel Cartel James315 had visions; "Why be just a low paid long suffering carer surrounded by bots - I will be the Organ Grinder and these bots can be my unpaid monkeys." So you see Peorthr, the locals here NEVER take a Codie seriously. We nod and wink at them, occasionally pod them for sport , but we NEVER take them seriously. Help explain? That is like, so many words for a group you don't take seriously. I'm certain Sasha has a more eloquently worded statement to this effect, but sometimes I prefer brevity. You care. A lot. Vipsan is blocked, CR; I'm just too tired these days to tease out the sense from the dross. I did notice, however, an error.
Fatty - Fatties Lolly - Lollies Biopsy - ?
Guess.
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:21:10 -
[152] - Quote
I really appreciate the proof reading, I will repost with the correction for maximum effect. I care. |
Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:24:13 -
[153] - Quote
Never apologise to a Codie, just realise they are sensitive petals who wail at the smallest prick ( not you ).
The locals here usually ignore their circle jerk posts to each other.
They have low self esteem from a cloning accident that denied them reproductive organs. The same cloning mistake gave them sub par brains, only able to achieve repetitive botting tasks such as ganking.
I have studied these pathetic organisms by numerous biopsies on their podded corpses. Some superior entities (by comparison) have been able to break free of their cult like environment. Establishing their own care facility and activities, well done to the Kusions for this minor achievement. Baby steps, baby steps!
James315 started out as their carer. As time went by and the pressures of running such a large care facility struck, he had a break-down. Whilst on a battery of cheap medications supplied by the Angel Cartel James315 had visions; "Why be just a low paid long suffering carer surrounded by bots - I will be the Organ Grinder and these bots can be my unpaid monkeys."
So you see Peorthr, the locals here NEVER take a Codie seriously. We nod and wink at them, occasionally pod them for sport , but we NEVER take them seriously.
Help explain?
( Must thank Sasha for helping get this message out. ) |
Jacques d'Orleans
3103
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:29:52 -
[154] - Quote
You definitely sound like you take them serious, tbh, you sound like you've leveled Extreme Butthurt to V. Just sayin'
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
4030
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:36:46 -
[155] - Quote
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You definitely sound like you take them serious, tbh, you sound like you've leveled Extreme Butthurt to V. Just sayin' What's the multiplier on that?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:39:37 -
[156] - Quote
Sounds like Jacky is butthurt tbh to XI. |
Jacques d'Orleans
3104
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Posted - 2017.04.14 21:43:25 -
[157] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You definitely sound like you take them serious, tbh, you sound like you've leveled Extreme Butthurt to V. Just sayin' What's the multiplier on that?
One metric shyte ton.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2017.04.14 22:03:14 -
[158] - Quote
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You definitely sound like you take them serious, tbh, you sound like you've leveled Extreme Butthurt to V. Just sayin' What's the multiplier on that? One metric shyte ton.
Sounds like you are really really buthurt Jacky, and you only bought a codie licence.
Marked for all to see as codie property in your bio.
Owned. |
Jacques d'Orleans
3106
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Posted - 2017.04.14 22:22:24 -
[159] - Quote
Vipsan Agrippa wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You definitely sound like you take them serious, tbh, you sound like you've leveled Extreme Butthurt to V. Just sayin' What's the multiplier on that? One metric shyte ton. Sounds like you are really really buthurt Jacky, and you only bought a codie licence. Marked for all to see as codie property in your bio. Owned.
Hazel, Hazel, Hazel, you really naughty, aren't you? I proudly own a valid Permit, albeit I didn't really need it anymore because I live in Null, but I will buy another one, when it's time to do so. Yes, I'm an CODE. Supporter and yes I support the cause of James 315, blessed be his name. CODE. creates content, your tears in C&P are a fine example for some delicious content. So crisp, so refreshing.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2017.04.14 22:24:17 -
[160] - Quote
I can't tell if those dudes are comfortable doing that video, or they are just doing it for money. |
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2017.04.14 22:39:02 -
[161] - Quote
Clockwork Robot wrote:I can't tell if those dudes are comfortable doing that video, or they are just doing it for money.
Band unhappy with lead singer, latter dumped for heroin use. Replaced by Mike Patton, band don't look back. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1570
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Posted - 2017.04.17 10:23:25 -
[162] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:... I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
I find bumping quite boring. But suicide bumping... now that could be a thing...
Remove standings and insurance.
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